Aug 10, 2026 Commissioners Court

[1. Call meeting to order]

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WE'RE READY TO GO. LET'S HAVE OUR PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR. TEXAS. FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THIS MORNING. BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH IT. I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF TIME.

YOU GIRLS NEED TO GET BACK TO VOLLEYBALL PRACTICE.

I DON'T WANT TO HOLD YOU UP IF YOU NEED TO GO PRACTICE.

YEAH. SOFTBALL. GOOD. I THINK THE SHIRTS SAY SOFTBALL.

YEAH. IT'S VOLLEYBALL SEASON. VOLLEYBALL SEASON.

SEASON. YEAH, YEAH. VOLLEYBALL SEASON. SO Y'ALL NEED TO GO.

I CAN MOVE Y'ALL UP EARLY. IF NOT, WE'LL LET YOU LISTEN TO A LITTLE BIT OF COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY. IT'S REALLY OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

THEN WE HAVE THE PLEDGES TO BE HEARD. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS THIS MORNING.

OTHER CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. SO THAT WILL MOVE US ON DOWN TO 1.4, WHICH IS OUR REPORT FROM COMMISSIONERS IN CHARGE.

[4. Report from Judge, Commissioner or Department concerning an item/report of community interest.]

WE DID STARTED LAST WEEK AND RECEIVING DIRT FROM TAFT DRAINAGE PROJECT TO $35 MILLION PROJECT BETWEEN TRENTON AND TAFT.

AND WE'RE TAKING THE DIRT THAT THEY'RE SAVING FUEL COSTS BY GIVING IT TO THE COUNTY FOR FREE.

FILLING IN AT NEW YARD. AND WE'RE PROJECT, WE'RE BLEEDING IT OUT AND SMOOTHING IT OUT.

AND SOON WE'LL HAVE A BIG DIRT PILE DOWN THERE JUST TO BE ABLE TO WORK THE ROADS.

WE'RE CONTINUING BURNING WITH A NEW BURN, BOSS.

AND IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT. I THINK ALL THE STUFF WE'VE COLLECTED IS GOING TO BE GONE TODAY.

WE'RE HAULING EQUIPMENT FOR DRAINAGE DISTRICT FROM SAINT PAUL TO TRADEWINDS TO GET A PROJECT OUT THERE.

MOVING OUT AT WHITE POINT AND ALL THE MATERIAL FROM SINTON TO YARD OVER TO TAFT YARD.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY. THANK YOU, MISTER. EARLY MORNING, JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING BUDDY. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT TODAY, JUDGE.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER GONZALES. GOOD MORNING. YES.

WE HAD A LIGHT WEEK LAST WEEK. WE HAD THE MOWERS OUT ON COUNTY ROAD 1740, COUNTY ROAD 2047.

THERE IN THE AREA AND COUNTY ROAD 1653 IN THE AREA.

WE HAD A DIRT PATCH TRUCK OUT IN THE OLD MARION COUNTY ROAD, 2047, COUNTY ROAD 2095 AND COUNTY ROAD 1510 AND COUNTY ROAD 2431 IN THE AREA.

WE HAD A BRUSH GRAPPLE TRUCK OUT IN THE PONDEROSA HIDDEN ACRES AND STAGECOACH LANE IN THE MATHIS AREA.

WE ALSO LAID SOME LIMESTONE OUT IN COUNTY ROAD 732.

WE DID A 1552.

BENTON. WE LAID 3000 TONS. THAT'S 120 18 WHEELER.

LOADS OF LIMESTONE. WE DID TREE TRIMMING. COUNTY ROAD 732 IN THE SAINT PAUL AREA.

COUNTY ROAD 2431. COUNTY ROAD 2415. WE STILL COATED THREE MILES OF SEAL COATING WITH TWO COARSE CHIP ROCK ON COUNTY ROAD 2395, COUNTY ROAD 2415 AND COUNTY ROAD 2431. ALSO, WE ASSISTED THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND INSTALLING AND HAULING DIRT OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 2015. THE CENTRAL AREA ALSO IS A REMINDER ON COUNTY ROAD 1136.

WE'LL BE CLOSING THAT FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS, DOING SOME CULVERT REPLACEMENT AND A BIG THANK YOU FOR PRECINCT FOUR, COMMISSIONER FOR THE USE OF THE WATER TRUCK AND DRIVER.

THANK YOU. MR.. YOUR HONOR, I'M WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR ESTIMATES ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO REMOVE ALL THOSE BAD PILES FROM THAT BRIDGE ON ON 1360 AND REPLACE THEM. SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE COURT WHEN WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY, BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY NOT MY BUDGET. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THE OLD PILES OUT AND THEN PUT NEW ONES IN THE POSITION THAT THEY'RE AT. SO MORE TO FOLLOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DEPARTMENT HEADS, ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS THIS MORNING HAVE SOMETHING.

JOHN. JOHN. OKAY. DIDN'T SEE YOU STAND UP, JOHN.

AND WAVE. ALMOST LIKE HE DIDN'T WANT TO. YEAH, LIKE HE DIDN'T WANT TO.

JUST TO REMIND COURT THAT THE JAIL REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS DEADLINE IS THIS THURSDAY AT 02:00,

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IT'S AN ONLINE DEAL WHERE FOLKS CAN DOWNLOAD THE PLANS AND ASK QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO FAR, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 189 DOWNLOADS OF THE PLAN.

SO COMPARED TO WHEN WE DID THE JUSTICE CENTER HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE ONLY BARELY GOT 5 OR 6.

SO HAVING THAT BEACON SYSTEM ONLINE IS A BIG HELP TO THE COUNTY.

SO WE SHOULD GET SOME GREAT BETTERS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JOHN. KIM. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I JUST WANTED TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW OF COUNTY ROUTE 3265LJA IS ON SITE AT FRED JONES PARK.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MEN OUT THERE AND SOME WORK GOING ON.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS? STEPHEN.

JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, JUST AS A REMINDER, THE CYBERSECURITY ASSESSMENT IS DUE ON AUGUST 31ST.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 55%. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS? OKAY. JUST ONE THING THAT I HAVE TO ANNOUNCEMENT.

I GUESS MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW OR HAVE READ THIS THURSDAY MORNING HERE AT SACRED HEART CHURCH.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE FUNERAL FOR TODD RICHARDSON, A VETERAN.

HIS DAUGHTER, JENNIFER, WORKS IN OUR VA OFFICE.

THEY WERE INVOLVED IN A VERY TRAGIC ACCIDENT UP IN NEBRASKA WHEN THEY WERE ON VACATION.

AND JENNIFER'S DAUGHTER STILL HAVING SOME REPERCUSSIONS FROM IT AND STILL HAVING TO BE IN A HOSPITAL HERE LOCALLY.

SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO.

I'LL AUTHORIZE IT SO THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE OFF AND GO TO THE CHURCH SERVICE.

THE BURIAL WILL BE AT THE VETERANS CEMETERY OVER IN CORPUS CHRISTI, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A RECEPTION AT THE VFW HALL.

I GUESS IT'S IN ANTIVILLE OR CALALLEN AREA AFTERWARDS FOR A CELEBRATION OF LIFE.

SO PLEASE REMEMBER JENNIFER. PLEASE REMEMBER THE FAMILY, HIS WIFE, AND YOUR PRAYERS THIS WEEK, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY TRAGIC AND ROUGH WEEK FOR THEM AND STUFF.

AND IT'S VERY, VERY UNEXPECTED. I KNEW TODD QUITE WELL FROM THE VETERANS HERE AND GOT TO MEET HIM.

HE'S HE WAS A FANTASTIC GENTLEMAN AND STUFF. SO WE'RE ALL GOING TO MISS HIM, BELIEVE ME.

OKAY. LET'S GO ON TO 1.5 AS SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NOTICES.

[a. ANNOUNCEMENT - San Patricio County Commissioners Court will have a Workshop at the end of the Regular Commissioners Court of August 10, 2026, 9:00 AM, at 1301 E. Sinton Street, Suite C, Sinton, TX Commissioners Courtroom, to include Elected Officials and Department Heads.]

AFTER WE GET THROUGH WITH COURT, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 10:00, AND ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE WELCOME TO COME IN AND BE PART OF THAT. THE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT I HAVE IS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

[b. ANNOUNCEMENT - Elected Officials Salary Grievance Committee to be held on Friday, August 14, 2026 at 10:00 a.m. in the San Patricio County Administrative Annex Building 1301 E. Sinton St. Suite C, Sinton, TX in the Commissioners Courtroom.]

THIS FRIDAY, AUGUST THE 14TH, 2026 AT 10 A.M.

HERE IN THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE ANNEX BUILDING HERE IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM.

SO THAT'S JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT ON FRIDAY GOING INTO THE LIBERATION OF ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE 2.1, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES.

[1. Approval of minutes]

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER YARDLEY FOR APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. I HAVE TO ABSTAIN. I WAS NOT HERE.

OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO ABSTAIN. OKAY. FOUR ZERO WITH ONE.

JUDGE, DO YOU DO THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PRESERVATION OF RECORDS? DID YOU DO THAT ONE? THERE'S THAT ONE. I DON'T HAVE THAT ON HERE.

1.5. ONE IN BOLD 1.5. TEN POINT 5BI GOT AN A AND B. SCROLL UP. THERE YOU GO. RIGHT ABOVE IT A OH IT'S IN THE BLACK.

OKAY. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T DO IT. IT'S IN BLACK.

NOT IN BLUE. OKAY. ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE FOR AUGUST THE 24TH, 2026 AT 9 A.M.

[5. NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS: ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 24TH, 2026 AT 9:00 A.M. FOR COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVE, RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND PRESERVATION PLANS FOR FY 2027.]

PRESERVATION OF THE 2027 YEAR THAT WAS IN BLACK.

SO I APOLOGIZE MISSING THAT ONE. THANK YOU TOM.

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FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE EXAMINATION CONSIDERATION ACTION OF ALL CLAIMS AGAINST THE COUNTY.

[a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to Section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.]

SECONDED BY GONZALEZ TO PAY THE BILLS. ANY BILL PRESENTED THIS MORNING.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. UNANIMOUS.

2.2 B IS A BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. WE DO HAVE SOME THIS MORNING.

[b. Consideration and action on Budget Line Items, Transfers, and Amendments.]

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM WASTE DISPOSAL INTO TRAVEL.

COUNTY COURT AT LAW NUMBER TWO, TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM LICENSED SOFTWARE AND SUPPORT INTO TRAVEL.

AND PRECINCT TWO, TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM REPAIR MATERIALS AND SEAL COATING INTO FURNITURE, VEHICLES, AND EQUIPMENT. MOVE TO APPROVE BUDGET TRANSFERS.

SECOND. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE'S, SECOND BY GONZALEZ.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, THEN WE GOT 2.2 C, WHICH IS OUR BANK RECONCILIATION TREASURER'S

[c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ]

IN OUR JULY 2026 SALES TAX IS $592.44. OUR SECTION 125 FOR JULY 2026 IS $21,787.16. AND I'D LIKE TO REPORT AND RECORD THE AUDITED JULY 2026 MONTHLY INVESTMENT REPORT.

MOVE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE.

SECONDED BY YEARLY APPROVED TREASURER'S REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS? MISS GARCIA, ON THE TREASURER'S REPORT THIS MORNING. HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. 2.2 D IS POSSIBLE DISCUSSION ON FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET.

[d. Possible discussion on Fiscal Year 2027 Budget and related matters. ]

OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. 2.2 E IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A NO NEW TAX

[e. Consideration and action on No-new revenue tax rate and voter-approval tax rate calculations, determine proposed tax rates and schedule any necessary public hearings.]

THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN. SO I PUT A PACKET ON YOUR DESK.

IT'S THE WORKSHEETS FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE AND THE INS PORTION OF THE TAX RATE.

SO THAT'LL BE THERE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A HYPERLINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SET UP.

THAT'S PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE FOR THE YEAR.

SO YOU'LL SEE ALL THESE WORKSHEETS. I'LL COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND HAVE SOME SCAN AND SHOW YOU WHERE ON THE WEB PAGE IT'LL BE, BUT THAT'LL BE, THAT'S FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AT THE MOMENT.

AND I ALSO DID A SUMMARY FOR YOU. SO FOR THE COUNTIES N AND R THIS YEAR I CALCULATED 0.236532. THE VAR VOTER APPROVAL RATE 0.244810 ON THE INS SIDE AND IN R IS 0.044725. VAR IS 0.045317.

ROAD AND BRIDGE 0.068834. THAT'S THE N AND R, AND THE VAR IS 0.071243.

SO YOU HAVE TOTALS FOR EACH ONE. THE N AND R.

THE TOTAL FOR THE THREE WORKSHEETS IS 0.350091.

AND THE VAR IS 0.361370. AND WE HAVE AN UNUSED INCREMENT STILL AT 0.120947. AND SO IF YOU LOOK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN, YOU'LL HAVE THE M AND O RATES AND THE DEBT RATES.

SO IF YOU WERE TO ADD THE UNUSED INCREMENT TO THE 0.3 61RVAR WOULD BE 0.437000.

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SO THAT DROPPED THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THE N AND R DROPS THAT I AND S IT'S 0.037245.

THOSE ARE THE CURRENT ONES. AND THE ROAD AND BRIDGE IS 411.

SO OUR TOTAL TAX RATE FOR 2026 WAS 0.409761. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO TAX YEARS.

WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE IN IN OUR TAXABLE VALUE QUITE A BIT.

WE HAVE SOME. WELL I THINK MR. KUSHNER WILL EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT TO YOU AS WELL.

I DON'T WANT TO STEAL HIS THUNDER. SO. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THOSE ARE THE THE THE RATES. WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO PROPOSE AND WHATEVER DAY YOU WANT TO SET YOUR MEETING TO PROPOSE IT, I'LL BE READY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COULD YOU REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT? THE UNUSED INCREMENT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THE UNUSED INCREMENT.

IT GIVES US A WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE VAR IS AND WHAT WE ACTUALLY PASSED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

SO EVERY YEAR THE THE LAST YEAR DROPS OFF. SO LIKE LAST YEAR WE HAD, WE HAD SOME INCREASE.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE VERY BACK PAGE. WELL LET ME TELL YOU WHAT PAGE IT WOULD BE ON.

ON YOUR WORKSHEETS IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THAT, IT'S PROBABLY ON PAGE NINE AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE, WHAT WE USED AND WHAT WE DIDN'T USE. SO THAT'S THE UNUSED INCREMENT FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

SO IF WE DON'T, IF THE COURT ADOPTS SOMETHING LOWER THAN THE VAR, IT STAYS THERE.

BUT YOU LOSE THE THE LAST YEAR. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BUILT UP IN OTHER WORDS.

SO THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR US. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GOOD? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.

I'LL HAVE SOME MORE NEWS. WE HAVE NEW TAX TAX BILL A NEW TAX STATEMENTS COMING OUT.

SO I'LL SHOW YOU THAT. AND THEN I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE YOU CAN GO ON THE HYPERLINK AND SEE ALL THE DOCUMENTATIONS.

THE DOCUMENTATION THAT I USED TO COME UP WITH THESE TAX RATES.

OKAY. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTIONS BEFORE WE'RE OVER.

OKAY. SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.

[3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:]

THE COMMISSIONER THOMAS YARDLEY'S PRECINCT TWO SUCCESSFUL, COMPLETED 18 HOURS OF EDUCATION TRAINING DURING THE 92ND ANNUAL SOUTH TEXAS COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE, JUNE 15TH TO THE 18TH IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.

MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2.3 A AND B.

SECOND, LET'S BE SECONDED BY GONZALEZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY.

NOW WE'LL GO DOWN INTO OUR INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS A CONGRATULATIONS AND RECOGNITION OFFERED BY SAN PATRICIO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO THE SENTINEL LITTLE LEAGUE SENIOR GIRLS ALL STAR TEAM FOR ALL THEIR

[a. Congratulations and Recognition offered by San Patricio County Commissioners Court to the Sinton Little League Senior Girls All-Star Team for all their accomplishments this season, which includes 2026 Texas East District 29 Champions, 2026 Texas East Section 4 Champions, 2026 Texas East State Champions, and 2026 Southwest Regional Finalists. Congratulations on all your hard work! ]

2026 TEXAS EAST SECTION FOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS, 2026 TEXAS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE 2026 SOUTHWEST REGIONAL FINALIST. OKAY, CONGRATULATIONS, GIRLS, TO ALL THAT WORK.

THAT'S A LONG SEASON, RIGHT WHEN Y'ALL STARTED EARLY, BUT IT PAID OFF AT THE END, DIDN'T IT? IT DID. OKAY, LET ME READ THIS RECOGNITION FOR YOU.

I GUESS I CAN GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT. I DON'T, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

SECOND, LET'S BE SECONDED GORSKI TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION.

SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU ALL GET UP AND TAKE A PICTURE OF YOU.

OKAY. RESOLUTION HONORING A SENTENCE. SENIOR LEAGUE ALL STAR TEAM FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS DURING THE 2026 POSTSEASON. WHEREAS THE SENTENCE SENIOR ALL STAR SOFTBALL TEAM PROUDLY REPRESENTED THE CITY OF SENTENCE, PATRICIA COUNTY AND THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGHOUT THE OUTSTANDING SPORTSMANSHIP, TEAMWORK, PERSEVERANCE AND ATHLETIC EXCELLENCE DURING THE 2026 LITTLE LEAGUE POSTSEASON.

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SECTION FOUR CHAMPIONSHIP, DEFEATING LA VERNIA IN CONSECUTIVE GAMES BY THE SCORE OF 19 TO NOTHING AND 15 TO 1 TO SECURE SECTIONAL TITLE.

AND WHEREAS CENTRAL LITTLE LEAGUE SOFTBALL ALL STARS THEN CLAIMED THE 2026 TEXAS EAST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, EARNING VICTORIES OVER CHANNELVIEW 17 TO 4. HOUSTON EAST END 12 TO 1.

CHANNEL VIEW AGAIN 10 TO 1, THEREBY EARNING THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING TEXAS EAST AT THE 2026 SOUTHWEST REGIONAL TOURNAMENT.

WHEREAS, THE TEAM TRAVELED TO BROUSSARD, LOUISIANA, TO COMPETE IN THE SOUTHWEST REGIONAL TOURNAMENT, WHERE THEY REPRESENTED TEXAS EAST AND A DISTINCTION BY DEFEATING NORTHWEST, WHICH WAS THE TEXAS WEST TEAM, EIGHT 5 TO 3. DEMING, NEW MEXICO 16 TO 2 TURN AND FINISHED IN AS SOUTHWEST REGIONAL FINALIST AFTER A HARD FOUGHT 8 TO 9 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AGAINST NORTHWEST TEXAS WEST.

AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT THE CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT, OUR JOURNEY TO TEXAS SENIOR SOFTBALL ALL STARS DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL OFFENSE, TALENT, DETERMINATION AND TEAMWORK BY SCORING AN IMPRESSIVE 102 TOTAL RUNS DURING THE POSTSEASON PLAY.

AND WHEREAS THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THESE YOUNG ATHLETES HAVE BROUGHT THE TREMENDOUS PRIDE AND RECOGNITION TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF SINTON AND TO ALL OF SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY, WHILE SERVING AS AN INSPIRATION TO FUTURE GENERATIONS OF STUDENT ATHLETES THROUGH THEIR DEDICATION, SPORTSMANSHIP, AND COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE. OKAY GIRLS, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH YOUR NAMES.

OKAY? I'M BAD AT NAMES. JUST SO YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT REALLY GOOD WITH NAMES AT ALL.

OKAY. HEADS UP WOULD BE THE BEST. IT'D BE CLOSE.

IT'D BE RECOGNIZABLE, THOUGH. YEAH. IT'S TOUGH, SO THAT'S NOT MY THING.

BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS. OKAY. THE MEMBERS OF THE 2026 LITTLE LEAGUE ALL STAR MAJOR BASEBALL ALL STAR TEAM ARE ELIZABETH A ACOSTA, NEUVA CORTAZAR, CASEY CASTILLO, JAYDA CASTILLO, ELENA DELGADO, KATINA GALVAN, SADIE GARCIA, GABRIEL GUAJARDO EVELYN LOZANO, MADISON MARTINEZ, MICHELLE PENN, NATALIE TERENA WITH MANAGERS BRIANNA MEJIAS AND COACHES GLORIA MEJIAS AND JESSICA HARTUNG. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, TEXAS HEREBY CONGRATULATE AND COMMEND THE 2026 SENIOR SOFTBALL ALL STAR TEAM ON AN EXTRAORDINARY POSTSEASON AND PROUDLY RECOGNIZES THE TEAM AS 2026 DISTRICT 29 CHAMPIONS.

2026 TEXAS EAST SECTION FOUR CHAMPIONS. 2026 TEXAS STATE CHAMPIONS AND 2026 SOUTHWEST REGION FINALISTS. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT EXPRESSES ITS SINCERE APPRECIATION TO THE PLAYERS, THE COACHES AND FAMILY, VOLUNTEERS AND SUPPORT WHOSE DEDICATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT CONTRIBUTED TO THE REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT AND FOR REPRESENTING SAN PATRICIO COUNTY AND CITY OF SINTON WITH HONOR, INTEGRITY AND EXCELLENCE.

PASSED AND APPROVED ON THIS 10TH DAY OF AUGUST 2026.

GIRLS, CONGRATULATIONS! OKAY.

IF YOU ALL WILL COME DOWN FRONT, COACHES TO ALL PART OF THIS, WE'LL ASSUME THE LINE ON THE BACK WALL HERE. YEAH. MAKE SURE TOM'S NOT STANDING BEHIND THE JUDGE, OKAY? DON'T. TURN OUT HERE. WHY? DON'T YOU COME? LET ME SQUEEZE IN HERE. THERE YOU GO. WHY DON'T YOU GO IN?

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OKAY. WE GOTTA MAKE SURE HE DOESN'T STAND BEHIND THE JUDGE.

NOBODY SEES HIM. NO, NO. WE'RE GOOD.

EVERYBODY GOT THEIR PICTURES. GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD JOB, LADIES. GOOD JOB.

GETTING TO BE A REGULAR THING FOR SINTON, ISN'T IT? YEAH. YOUNG ATHLETES. I HOPE Y'ALL STAY TOGETHER.

CONTINUE THIS SPORTS THAT YOU'RE INVOLVED IN.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO HIGH SCHOOL. BECAUSE IT KEEPS YOU OUT OF TROUBLE AND IT'S GOOD FOR YOU.

IT REALLY CREATES LEADERSHIP, SPORTSMANSHIP, AND A LOT OF DEDICATION WHEN YOU STAY IN SPORTS AND STUFF.

YOU KNOW, YOU ALL OUGHT TO BE VERY PROUD OF GOING AS FAR AS YOU DID.

I HAVEN'T UMPIRED ANY FURTHER IN SOFTBALL, BUT I HAVE DONE A LOT OF BASEBALL UMPIRE AND BEEN TO THREE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES AND STUFF IN MY TENURE THAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH LITTLE LEAGUE.

SO IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO BE THE WHERE Y'ALL WENT, BECAUSE WHEN I GET THERE, I RECOGNIZE THAT NOT TOO MANY TEAMS, YOU JUST STOP AND THINK HOW MANY TEAMS DID NOT MAKE IT TO WHERE Y'ALL DID? YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

STAY WITH IT. AND WHEN YOU GET INTO HIGH SCHOOL, Y'ALL WILL BE DOING GREAT.

Y'ALL WILL HAVE A GREAT TEAM IN HIGH SCHOOL TO COMPETE.

ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE THEM A PASS OUT OF HERE IF THEY WANT TO? YEAH THEY CAN Y'ALL.

YEAH, Y'ALL. IT WON'T MAKE YOU LISTEN TO US. YOU WON'T GO IF YOU WANT.

YOU'RE FREE TO GO. Y'ALL REALLY WANT TO SIT AND LISTEN TO SOME MORE BUSINESS? DON'T FEEL SHY. YOU JUST HEAD FOR THE DOOR. I WOULD IF I COULD OKAY. OUT, BUT.

OKAY. MOVING ON. 2.4 B CONSIDERATION ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM CRYSTAL JUAREZ, COMMUNITY BASED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM MANAGER,

[b. Consideration and action on a request from Crystal Juarez, Community Based Program Manager on renewing an agreement between the Coastal Bend Food Bank & Community-Based Programs for the Senior Food Box Program.]

I THINK THIS IS JUST MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, YOU BRING YOUR FOOD.

I DID NOT, UNFORTUNATELY NOT TODAY. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING FOR OUR GUESTS FOR THE VOTE.

I JUST HAVE SOMETHING SHORT PREPARED. BUT OF COURSE.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. BUT JUST SO Y'ALL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION AS TO WHERE WE ARE.

AS OF AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, 2026, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 180 INDIVIDUALS REGISTERED FOR THE SENIOR FOOD BOX PROGRAM.

AND THEN ON AVERAGE, THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM JULY OF 2025 THROUGH JULY OF 26.

WE ARE DISTRIBUTING 169 BOXES PER MONTH. SO CAN WE HAVE MEGAN SAY SOMETHING? SURE. JUST SO FAR, THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM WITH KRYSTAL.

SHE'S ACTUALLY GROWING THE PROGRAM SINCE IT FIRST STARTED TWO YEARS AGO.

SO SHE'S NOW PROVIDING BOXES FOR THE GREGORY HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE INGLESIDE SENIOR CENTER, AND THEN ALSO THE VIP ADULT DAYCARE THAT'S HERE IN SINTON.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT SHE HAS. I THINK ON THE AGENDA, JUST TO GET AN MOU SIGNED WITH THEM.

BUT I THINK SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB AND SHE'S DELIVERING WHICH MOST CITIES DO NOT DO.

SO SHE'S ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND DOING THE WORK FOR US.

SO SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MEGAN.

THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY.

2.4 C. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LADIES. THANK YOU.

[c. Consideration and action on a request from Crystal Juarez, Community-Based Program Manager, to enter into an agreement between the Coastal Bend Food Bank, Community-Based Program, and the Gregory Housing Authority to establish the Gregory Housing Authority as a subsite for the Senior Food Box Program.]

ON A REQUEST FROM CRYSTAL JUAREZ COMMUNITY BASED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN COASTAL BEND FOOD BANK, COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAM AND THE GREGORY HOUSING AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH THE GREGORY HOUSING AUTHORITY AS A SUBSTITUTE SUB SITE FOR THE SENIOR FOOD BOX PROGRAM. MOVED TO APPROVE.

OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE. SECONDED BY SIKORSKY.

Y'ALL NEED SAY ANYTHING? NO. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY.

MY GOSH. CRYSTAL, YOU GOT THEM ALL THIS MORNING.

CONSIDERATION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION. ON A REQUEST FROM CRYSTAL WATERS COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAM MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN A COASTAL BEND FOOD

[d. Consideration and action on a request from Crystal Juarez, Community-Based Program Manager, to enter into an agreement between the Coastal Bend Food Bank, Community-Based Program, and the Ingleside Senior Center as a subsite for the Senior Food Box Program.]

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MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION SECONDED BY YARDLEY.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING. NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. 2.4 CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM CRYSTAL JUAREZ,

[e. Consideration and action on a request from Crystal Juarez, Community-Based Program Manager, to enter into an agreement between the Coastal Bend Food Bank, Community-Based Program, and the VIP Adult Day Care Center to establish the VIP Adult Day Care Center as a subsite for the Senior Food Box Program.]

WHY CAN'T I GET THAT RIGHT FOR THE SENIOR FOOD BOX PROGRAM? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY GILLESPIE.

SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. 2.4 F WE'RE JUST GOING TO DELETE IT.

THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BY OTHER MEANS. OH OKAY.

IT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. 2.4 G IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THE 20 THE 2026

[g. Consideration, discussion and action that the 2016 Ford F150 Pickup (VIN # 6562) belonging to the San Patricio County Sheriff's Department be transferred to Precinct #4 for Road and Bridge use.]

SECOND. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GONZALES.

SECONDED BY GILLESPIE. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. 2.4 H. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM IT DEPARTMENT

[h. Discussion, consideration, and action request from the IT Department, to purchase a 2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500, from Caldwell Country Chevrolet, Buy board #724-23 in the amount of $46,350.00]

BY BOARD NUMBER 724-23 IN THE AMOUNT OF $46,350.

MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY GILLESPIE.

SECONDED BY SIKORSKI. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. 2.4 I CAN CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON APPROVING A

[i. Consideration and Action on approving AEP's overhead transmission line crossing McCambell Rd and Linda Kay Lane in Pct. #4.]

MOVE TO APPROVE. THIS IS PROBABLY FOR THE SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS JUST A ROUTINE THING.

THEY'RE JUST MOVING TRANSMISSION LINES. THEY'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH THE AIRPORT AND I, AIRPORT MANAGER AND I ABOUT THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS AROUND THE AIRPORT AND THINGS.

OKAY, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. YEAH. I GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE.

IT WAS ALREADY SECONDED BY SOMEBODY. YEAH. YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. 2.4 J CONSIDERATION ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MELANIE COOPER,

[j. Consideration and action on the request from Melanie Cooper, Grant Manager, for a resolution authorizing the Parks Department to apply to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Local Parks Small Community Recreation Grant for $300,000.00, using GOMESA funds as match.]

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY GONZALEZ.

SECONDED BY SIKORSKI. ANY QUESTIONS ON MISS COOPER? NOPE. NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES 2.4 K.

[k. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Kimberly Garcia, Parks Manager, on contracting RFQ2025-004 with Hanson Engineering for the Master Parks Plan not to exceed $89,785.00.]

SECONDED BY GILLESPIE. ANY QUESTION? YEAH. YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. KIMBERLY C. TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH.

SO THIS IS FOR THE MASTER PLAN. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT STARTED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE COMPLETE FUNDING. IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF LIKE IN A PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. AND IT'S NOT TO EXCEED WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED FOR IT.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD. I WILL SAY 90 GRAND IS A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON A PARKS PLAN.

SO I HOPE THAT HANSEN DELIVERS A VERY IN-DEPTH PLAN.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I HOPE THAT PLAN DOESN'T JUST GET SHELVED COLLECT DUST.

WE ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE PLAN. WE UPDATE THE PLAN AND WE USE IT FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

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IN 2017 YEAH, I WROTE IT. BUT YEAH, THIS IS GOING TO HELP US APPLY FOR OTHER GRANTS.

I MEAN, WE NEED A MASTER PLAN IN ORDER TO GET MONEY.

SO I'M ON TOP OF IT. COMMISSIONER NOT A PROBLEM.

GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE I START THROWING ROCKS BETWEEN ME.

I'LL BE NICE. EVERYBODY BE NICE. BE NICE. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. 2.4 L CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON AUTHORIZING A SALARY SUPPLEMENT TO YVETTE AGUILAR,

[l. Consideration and action on authorizing a salary supplement to Yvette Aguilar, Assistant County Attorney, County Attorney's office in the amount of $417.00 per pay period to be paid out of SB22 Funds, beginning August 1, 2026 through December 31, 2026.]

OH, SORRY. THE ATTACHMENT IS CORRECT. WE HAD TO RESUBMIT IT.

IT HAS TO BE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT. SO IT'S FOR 1667.

IT HAS TO HAVE SENSE FOR MOTION TO APPROVE FOR SIX, FOR 16 FOR 16 AND $0.67.

$0.67. SECOND MOTION WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. GOT THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. GLAD YOU STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT FOR US.

THAT'S OKAY. 2.4 M DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION LIST FROM MANAGEMENT ADVISORY GROUP

[m. Discussion, consideration and action on adopting the Classification List from Management Advisory Group International, Inc for County Employee positions effective January 1, 2027.  ]

HERE'S OUR PLAN.

SO THIS IS THE LISTING THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE MAG SALARY SURVEY THAT WAS COMPOSED AND REVIEWED BY THE COMMITTEE.

NOW THIS WE DID IT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER ONLY BECAUSE IT MADE IT A LITTLE EASIER.

WE WILL BE HAVING NEW GRADES. WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A 100 SERIES.

WE'RE GOING TO A 200 SERIES WHEN WE DO THIS. THAT KIND OF GIVES AN IDEA OF WHAT THE NEW MINIMUMS ARE.

WHAT THE COURT HAD REQUESTED IS TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE LOWER END POSITIONS, WHICH WE DID.

AND WHAT WE ALSO LOOKED AT IS BASED ON THE REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU ALL FOR REVIEW.

THOSE DID MAKE THAT SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. SO THEY ARE AT MARKET.

NOW, A LOT OF OUR POSITIONS THAT WE DID HAVE WERE ALREADY AT MARKET.

SO WE WERE KEEPING UP WITH THAT. NOW WHATEVER THE COURT DECIDES TO DO, THIS IS JUST THE CLASS TITLE LISTING.

WHEN THE COURT MAKES A DECISION ON IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A COLA OR NOT, THEN WE WILL SUBMIT THE NEW SCALE FOR JANUARY 1ST, AND THEN WE WILL INCLUDE THE COLA BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING UP TO MARKET.

YEAH, I ONLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT AND I'LL GET WITH YOU SEPARATELY ABOUT THIS.

THE TITLE FOR SOME OF THE AIRFIELD PEOPLE. SO AS WE WERE LOOKING FOR AIRFIELD OPERATIONS, NOT WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH.

SO BUT I'LL TALK TO YOU A BIT SEPARATELY ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO BORE THE COURT WITH IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND SOME OF THOSE COMMISSIONER, THAT IS A GOOD STATEMENT ONLY BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THAT THAT WE HAD, WE SUBMITTED TO THEM AND THEY CHOSE MARKET TITLES.

SO THEY SAID AFTER THE REVIEW, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED, THEY COULD UPDATE FOR US.

OKAY. WE'LL GET WITH YOU ABOUT GARY AND I'LL GET YOU THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I DID SPEND SOME TIME GOING OVER THIS THING.

IF WE ACCEPT THIS TODAY, WHAT ABILITY DO WE HAVE TO STILL MAKE CHANGES OR MAKE CORRECTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD AFTER THE REPORT IS SUBMITTED.

SO THIS REPORT RIGHT NOW IS ATTACHED TO THE BIG PRINTOUT THAT Y'ALL RECEIVED.

SO IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES THAT Y'ALL ARE WANTING TO LOOK AT, Y'ALL JUST NEED TO GET WITH ME JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT IS IT THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEE LOOKS AT IT AS TO WHY THEY GOT TO THIS PARTICULAR POINT.

ALL RIGHT. AND THE OTHER PART TO THIS WHOLE. THING THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT WELL LAST TIME WAS THE ACTUAL PAYING COMPENSATION PLAN. YES. ONCE THIS STUDY IS COMPLETED, ARE WE ALSO GETTING AN ACTUAL.

WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING AN ACTUAL PLAN. WE HAVE THREE MORE PHASES THAT ARE COMPLETING WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE THE EXEMPT NONEXEMPT.

ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED, THEN WE HAVE THE. WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ALREADY SET UP.

THEN WE HAVE THE ACTUAL PLAN. EVERYTHING IS SET UP FOR JANUARY 1ST.

SO WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A TENTATIVE PLAN. THEY SUBMITTED TO US TO LOOK OVER AND FOR US TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, THEN WE WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PARTICULAR ONE.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE WOULD BE THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, WHICH THEY ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY WORKING ON BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED,

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OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. I MOVE TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY SIKORSKY FOR APPROVAL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, THEN 2.40 IS CONSIDERATION.

DISCUSSION AND ACTION. LET'S SEE. DID I MISS ONE? YES. 2.4 IN DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON MANAGEMENT ADVISORY GROUP.

[n. Discussion, consideration and action on the Management Advisory Group International, Inc. report for San Patricio County employees effective January 1, 2027.]

SO THAT WAS THE WAS THAT HUGE REPORT THAT I HAD DELIVERED TO ALL OF Y'ALL TO LOOK AND REVIEW.

IT'S BASED ON THIS CLASSIFICATION, ON THE NUMBERS.

SO THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. SO MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND MOTION BY GILLESPIE. SECOND BY SIKORSKI FOR APPROVAL.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY.

2.4 IS CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON BUY FROM WILLIAMS OF KORSKI SENIOR TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE COUNTY HEALTH INSURANCE

[o. Consideration, discussion and action from Commissioner William E. Zagorski Sr. on continuing the discussion on the County Health Insurance Program.]

THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN PUT THIS UNDER IN THE CLOSED SESSION.

NO CODE. THAT'S WHY IT'S MOVED BACK HERE. WE LOOKED AND LOOKED AND LOOKED AND WE CANNOT FIND THE CODE.

THE AUDITORS LOOKED. THEY CANNOT FIND A CODE THAT THIS WOULD FIT UNDER.

WELL, I WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION ON IT BASICALLY IS, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AGO I SUGGESTED THAT WE FORM AN INSURANCE DEPARTMENT AND I WAS TOLD BASICALLY THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT DURING BUDGET TIME.

SO I'M DURING BUDGET TIME. HERE WE ARE. AND WE'RE STILL HAVING INSURANCE PROBLEMS. COMMISSIONER YARDLEY, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A LETTER I RECEIVED WITH INSURANCE PROBLEMS. I'M HEARING IT FROM MY MEN. I'M HEARING IT FROM COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

THE SAME THING. I WAS HERE AT A TIME WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS SELF-INSURANCE PROGRAM AND SO FORTH.

AND WE HAD A PERSON THAT WAS IN DOING THE INSURANCE WORK.

AND EVERY TIME THERE WAS A PROBLEM, I SWEAR TO GOD, IT WAS FIVE MINUTES, IT WAS SOLVED.

AND NOW WE'RE ASKING THE EMPLOYEES TO CONTACT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THEIR PROBLEMS. I HAVE ONE GUY COMING TO ME SAYING HE'S GOT A CARDIOLOGY APPOINTMENT COMING UP, AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF HIS POCKET. I'M NOT SURE WHY I DIDN'T GET INTO DETAILS WITH IT, BUT THESE ARE OUR PEOPLE AND THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT NEED THE INSURANCE, AND MOST OF THEM CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY OUT OF POCKET.

I MEAN, WE WE ADVERTISE WHEN WE ADVERTISE FOR THESE POSITIONS, WHAT THE INSURANCE IS, BUT ARE WE DOING 100% THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO? AND I ASKED FOR THE DISCUSSION ON HAVING A SEPARATE INSURANCE DEPARTMENT AWAY FROM HR, WHERE THEY COULD CONCENTRATE TOTALLY JUST ON INSURANCE, NOT ON THE HR SIDE OF IT AND SO FORTH.

NOW, NORMA, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST WHAT'S GOING ON.

I MEAN, SITUATION IS WE HAVE TO HELP THESE PEOPLE OUT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS OTHER THAN HAVING A SEPARATE INSURANCE DEPARTMENT TOTALLY DEDICATED TO THE EMPLOYEES.

JUDGE, CAN I RESPOND? SURE. SO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DESIGNATED PERSON PLUS MYSELF THAT ARE HANDLING.

THE ISSUE IS NOT OUR DEPARTMENT. THE ISSUE IS THAT WE WENT OUT FOR BID LAST YEAR AND THE COMMITTEE CHOSE A COMPANY.

IT TURNED OUT THE COMPANY WAS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED.

WE HAD THEM FOR SIX MONTHS. THREE OF THOSE MONTHS WE WENT INTO TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH IT.

THIS COURT TERMINATED THAT CONTRACT, AND AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE ALREADY FILED A LAWSUIT WITH THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THINGS GOING. THIS HAPPENED MARCH 31ST, APRIL 1ST.

WE GOT BACK ON TRACK WITH CENTAVO, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WAS DOING OUR CLAIMS. THEY HAVE BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING ON THAT. MR. YARDLEY DID SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO THE COURT, THE JUDGE AND MYSELF, AND WE RESPONDED TO THAT.

THE LAST PAY PERIOD, WE ATTACHED A FLIER TO EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE'S FILE A PAYCHECK.

I'M SORRY. SO THEY WOULD KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE WE WANTED MORE CLARITY.

THAT SAME DAY, WE ALSO SENT AN EMAIL TO ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT DID NOT HAVE EMAIL.

SO WE CAN KIND OF KEEP THAT UP TO DATE. WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING THIS PAST FRIDAY.

WE DO NOT WANT TO OVERWHELM EMPLOYEES AND THEN THEY JUST PUT IT TO THE SIDE.

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NOW I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY.

THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES, BUT IT'S NOT ANYTHING.

WHETHER WE HAD AN INSURANCE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD RESOLVE IT.

IT IS A COMPANY ISSUE THAT HAPPENED. WE HAVE ADDRESSED IT.

WE JUST AS Y'ALL DO. Y'ALL TAKE BIDS. YOU HOPEFULLY WILL GET THE RIGHT PERSON.

YOU CANCEL THE BID, WHICH COMMISSIONER ZAGORSKY YOU JUST WENT THROUGH THAT RECENTLY.

YOU GOT A BID. DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR YOU. YOU CANCELED IT.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE? WE BOUGHT A LAWSUIT TO RECOVER OUR MONEY.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN. WE DO HAVE A MEETING ON THE 18TH OF THIS MONTH TO LOOK OVER NEW TPAS.

NEW HEALTH INSURANCE PROVIDERS THAT WILL LOOK AT OUR CONTRACTS.

BUT OF COURSE, IT'S A TIME SPENT AND IT WON'T BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL JANUARY 1ST.

I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM WITH MR AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THIS TIME LAST YEAR WE WERE DEALING WITH APPARENTLY THE GLP DRUGS OR WHATEVER IT WAS COSTING OUR OUR BASE.

WE BROUGHT IN MR. ROSENBERG. WE SOLVED THAT PROBLEM, TOO.

RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S CONTINUING.

WHAT'S WE'RE ALL WAITING BASICALLY FOR THE NEXT SHOE TO DROP.

WHAT'S THE NEXT THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, GETTING THE PROVIDERS BACK THAT WE LOST AND SO FORTH.

IT'S FANTASTIC. BUT. WE'RE ALL KIND OF SITTING ON PINS AND NEEDLES WAITING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. INSURANCE DEPARTMENT THAT CONCENTRATES TOTALLY ON ASSURANCE TO ME IS A GOOD THING.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M RIGHT OR WRONG OR INDIFFERENT. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

SO I WILL SAY THAT THE EMAIL I SENT, I HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS ON KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS, ONE OF WHICH WAS THE PROBLEMS WITH THE INSURANCE ITSELF, PROVIDERS WHO WERE NO LONGER SEEING OUR EMPLOYEES AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE OTHER HALF OF THIS WAS REALLY THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO DEPARTMENT HEADS, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO I APPRECIATE THE STEPS YOU TOOK TO ADD THAT NOTE TO THE PAY STUBS AND THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT.

I THINK IF YOU DO THAT EVERY PAY PERIOD, AT LEAST UNTIL WE GET SOME OF THIS STUFF RESOLVED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AT LEAST AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO MY EMPLOYEES WHAT THE ISSUE IS, WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO SOLVE IT, AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM? SO THAT HELPED A LOT. I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY OTHER COUNTIES ARE SELF INSURED LIKE WE ARE.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OTHER COUNTIES DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS? I DO NOT. PATRICK, DO YOU KNOW. I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE SELF-INSURED AS WELL. HOW DO THEY MANAGE THEIR BENEFITS? I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING WELL, PRIOR TO THIS YEAR OR THIS PAST YEAR, HAVING MR THE NEW COMPANY THAT CAME INTO PLACE.

AND NOW, OF COURSE, I CAN TALK ABOUT IT SINCE WE'VE ALREADY FILED THE SUIT. BUT PRIOR TO THAT WE HAD A CERTAIN EMPLOYEES LOVED IT.

THEY WERE ABLE TO GO IN. WE DIDN'T HAVE ISSUES WITH THE INSURANCE, WE GOT A BAD APPLE AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO RECOVER FROM IT.

THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, AS YOU SEE, COMES IN EVERY MONDAY AND GIVES OUR REPORT.

WE'VE HAD, WHAT, 249,000 LAST WEEK. TODAY WE HAD 92, 96,000.

SO CLAIMS ARE GETTING PROCESSED. THEY DID CENTAVO, WHICH WE DID HAVE IN THE PAST.

THEY DID HAVE SOME CHANGES WHERE THEY PROCESSED THE LABS AND X-RAYS.

THEY'RE REPROCESSING THAT SO THE EMPLOYEES DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SO I'M NOT REAL SURE OTHER THAN JUST MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE GETTING THE PHONE CALLS ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE BEING MY OFFICE. LISA, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HER ONLY JOB SHE'S BEEN DOING AT THIS TIME TRYING TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES.

ARE YOU SHORT-STAFFED, MISS NORMA? I AM. I'M SHORT-STAFFED ONE PERSON.

WE WE HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON TRYING TO GET THIS AND THE SALARY STUDY GOING.

BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER POSITION THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN, TRY TO HELP THE BENEFITS PART OF IT, BUT THERE'S NOT ANY MORE THAT WE CAN DO THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE.

THE REST IS JUST UP TO MAKING SURE SANTIAGO SENDS THOSE PAYMENTS OUT.

WE'RE SENDING THEM THE MONEY RIGHT NOW. WE'RE WORKING ON THE RECONCILIATION WITH THE AUDITOR AND THE TREASURER TO FIND OUT, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY IN CONTACT WITH DOCTORS, TRYING TO SEE WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET EVERYBODY BACK ON BOARD.

WELL, I CAN REMEMBER A TIME, AND I HAVE A LOT OF TIME WITH THE COUNTY AS AN EMPLOYEE, AS I AND AS I DO.

YES, I KNOW, AND I REMEMBER ANOTHER COMMISSIONER SITTING IN THIS POSITION OVER HERE WAS NAMED FRED NARDINI.

AND ONE OF THE CALLS HE GOT ALL THE TIME WAS TO HAVE A SEPARATE INSURANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND HE CONVINCED ME THAT IT WAS A GOOD THING.

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IS THAT DID I SEE THAT WRONG? NO, IT'S AN HR MANAGER, BUT ONCE I HIRE, I HAVE TO HIRE THE EXTRA BENEFITS ADMINISTRATOR.

I NEED THE OTHER PERSON FOR BENEFITS. I'M NOT CONFUSED, BUT I'M JUST SAYING.

TO ME, IT JUST MAKES SENSE. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY RUNNING THE AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT, HE'S GOING TO BE AN AUDITOR AND INSURANCE PERSON COMING UNDER HR JUST TO ME, NEVER HAS MADE SENSE.

BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. SO CAN YOU LET ME KNOW WHERE THE INSURANCE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE BY ITSELF AS JUST TOTALLY DEDICATED TOWARDS THE INSURANCE? THAT'S ALL I. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HE TOLD ME TO BRING IT UP DURING BUDGET TIME, AND I'M DOING SO.

OKAY. SO NO ACTION. ACTION TAKEN, NO ACTION TAKEN.

OKAY. MISS MARKS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. OH, MARCY.

EXCUSE ME. MARCY. HEATHER. SORRY. SO I SAW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED TODAY.

AND SO I DID WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO JUST SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT OUR COUNTY HEALTH INSURANCE.

AND PARTICULARLY AS YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHERE, WHERE WE GO NEXT.

AND I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT PROVIDING HEALTH INSURANCE TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.

AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF EMPLOYEES WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HEALTH INSURANCE AS MORE THAN SIMPLY AN EXPENSE IN LINE, AN EXPENSE LINE IN THE COUNTY BUDGET. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF AN EMPLOYEE'S TOTAL COMPENSATION.

I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THIS NOT ONLY AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT AS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE WHO PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR SELF-FUNDED PLAN FOR MANY YEARS AFTER DEALING WITH REPEATED PROBLEMS AND LIMITATIONS WITH THE COUNTY PLAN.

I ULTIMATELY MADE THE DECISION THIS YEAR TO WAIVE THE COUNTY'S HEALTH INSURANCE.

THAT WAS NOT A DECISION I MADE BECAUSE I DIDN'T VALUE HEALTH INSURANCE.

QUITE THE OPPOSITE. I WAIVED THE COUNTY PLAN BECAUSE I FELT I COULD NO LONGER REASONABLY RELY ON IT FOR MY COVERAGE, AND AS A RESULT, I'M NOW OBTAINING COVERAGE THROUGH MY HUSBAND'S EMPLOYER.

AND THE COST TO OUR FAMILY HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL.

BUT WHAT CONCERNS ME EVEN MORE TODAY IS THAT THIS ISSUE APPEARS TO BE REACHING A POINT WHERE IT'S NO LONGER SIMPLY ABOUT EMPLOYEES BEING UNHAPPY WITH THEIR INSURANCE.

WE'RE NOW SEEING EMPLOYEES POTENTIALLY LOSING ACCESS TO THEIR HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS, BECAUSE PROVIDERS ARE REFUSING TO CONTINUE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE COUNTY'S HEALTH PLAN.

AND THIS IS A FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT PROBLEM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S BEING WORKED ON.

BUT I, I JUST WONDER ABOUT HOW SUSTAINABLE IT IS.

AN INSURANCE BENEFIT ONLY HAS REAL VALUE IF EMPLOYEES CAN ACTUALLY USE IT TO OBTAIN CARE.

IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS INSURANCE ON PAPER BUT CANNOT SEE THE DOCTOR THEY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP WITH CANNOT OBTAIN NECESSARY SERVICES FROM A PROVIDER IN THEIR AREA, OR IS BEING TOLD THAT PROVIDERS THAT THEY WILL.

BY PROVIDERS THAT THEY WILL NO LONGER ACCEPT THE COUNTY'S PLAN, THEN WE HAVE TO ASK WHETHER WE ARE STILL PROVIDING THE BENEFIT WE BELIEVE WE ARE PROVIDING, AND I THINK THAT DESERVES OUR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONTRACTUAL, FINANCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES INVOLVED IN A SELF-FUNDED PLAN, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY CANNOT SIMPLY AGREE TO EVERY DEMAND MADE BY A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, BUT WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE CONSEQUENCES WHEN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS FAIL.

THE COST OF A HEALTH PLAN IS NOT JUST WHAT THE COUNTY PAYS AND PREMIUMS OR CLAIMS. THERE IS ALSO A COST. WHEN EMPLOYEES LOSE ACCESS TO THE DOCTORS AND HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS THEY DEPEND ON.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO LOOK AT THE PLAN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

IF HEALTH INSURANCE IS PART OF EMPLOYEES COMPENSATION PACKAGE, AN EMPLOYEE WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE COUNTY PLAN RECEIVES BOTH THEIR SALARY AND THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION TOWARD THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

AN EMPLOYEE WHO WAVES THAT COVERAGE RECEIVES THE SALARY BUT RECEIVES NONE OF THAT INSURANCE BENEFIT.

IN MY CASE, I'M NOT ONLY LOSING A BENEFIT THAT IS PART OF MY COMPENSATION PACKAGE, I'M ALSO PAYING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE OUT OF POCKET TO OBTAIN COVERAGE ELSEWHERE.

AND THAT'S CAUSED ME TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

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THEY MAY HAVE COVERAGE THROUGH A SPOUSE, MEDICARE OR ANOTHER SOURCE.

BUT REGARDLESS OF THE REASON, I THINK IT IS WORTH ASKING WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE SOME FORM OF COMPENSATION FOR EMPLOYEES WHO LEGITIMATELY WAVE A COUNTY SPONSORED BENEFIT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO CONSIDER AN INSURANCE WAIVER INCENTIVE OR AN OPT OUT BENEFIT FOR EMPLOYEES WHO DECLINE COUNTY COVERAGE BECAUSE THEY HAVE QUALIFYING COVERAGE ELSEWHERE. IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO EQUAL THAT OF THE COUNTY'S ENTIRE COST OF PROVIDING THE INSURANCE, BUT EVEN JUST A PORTION OF WHAT THE COUNTY HAS AVOIDED THE EXPENSE OF COULD PROVIDE MEANINGFUL COMPENSATION TO THE EMPLOYEE WHILE STILL SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COUNTY WOULD OTHERWISE SPEND 7 TO $10,000 A YEAR PROVIDING COVERAGE FOR AN EMPLOYEE, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN A PORTION OF THAT AVOIDED EXPENSE TO THE EMPLOYEE WHILE RETAINING SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS FOR THE COUNTY. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WORTH STUDYING.

BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT MY ULTIMATE GOAL IS BIGGER THAN AN OPT OUT PAYMENT.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE US HAVE A COUNTY HEALTH PLAN THAT EMPLOYEES CAN ACTUALLY USE AND FEEL CONFIDENT RELYING ON.

I BELIEVE THE COUNTY SHOULD TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHETHER OUR CURRENT SELF-FUNDED PLAN IS PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF ACCESS AND VALUE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO TO OBTAIN SOME MORE CLEAR INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT'S PROVIDING AND WHAT WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, AND HOW THIS CAN BE SUSTAINABLE OVER TIME.

I BELIEVE OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE A HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN THAT IS COMPETITIVE, USABLE, AND PROVIDES MEANINGFUL VALUE.

AND IF WE CANNOT PROVIDE THAT VALUE TO EVERY EMPLOYEE THROUGH THE HEALTH PLAN ITSELF, THEN I BELIEVE WE SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER A FAIR AND CONSISTENT WAY TO RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT RECEIVING THAT BENEFIT.

I'M NOT ASKING COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SOLVE MY INDIVIDUAL INSURANCE SOLUTION.

I'M ASKING THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AS A MATTER OF EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, BENEFIT, EQUITY, ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ONE OF THE COUNTY'S GREATEST INVESTMENTS.

WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE BENEFITS WE OFFER THEM ARE ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING AS THE COMPENSATION BENEFIT WE INTEND THEM TO BE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOUR HONOR, I WANT TO SAY ONE THING. NOW WE'RE DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE BECAUSE MECIE FAILED TO PAY THE BILLS.

YES, SIR. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT ONE.

YES, SIR. BEFORE THAT, WE HAD SOMEONE WHO WAS OPERATING HEALTH CARE FOR US.

INSURANCE THAT WASN'T DOING A GOOD JOB WASN'T LISTENING TO US.

NOW, PRIOR TO THAT, WE WE HAD A SERTA AND THEY WERE PAYING THE BILLS.

THEY WERE COMING THROUGH. DOCTORS WERE GETTING PAID. THERE WAS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THE WHOLE ISSUE STARTED OCTOBER 1ST WHEN WE CHANGED TO MICHI.

MICHI. YES, SIR. SO IT'S A BAD, BAD COMPANY. IT'S A BAD COMPANY.

AND THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE ARE OPTING OUT OF OUR PLAN BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GETTING PAID.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO PAY THEM AND GET THEM BACK ON BOARD.

WE HAVE A HANDFUL THAT IS THAT HAS AFFECTED. WE DO HAVE OTHER DOCTORS THAT STILL ARE IN THE SAME.

THEY'RE THEY'RE SEEING OUR PATIENTS. I MEAN, PATIENTS, THEY'RE SEEING OUR EMPLOYEES AND DEPENDENTS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING, BUT WE HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM EVERY WEEK JUST TO LET THEM KNOW SOME OF THOSE PROVIDERS.

WE'RE SENDING THEM THE CHECK REGISTER THAT MISS GARCIA GETS, JUST SO THEY KNOW THESE WERE THE PATIENTS THAT WERE PROCESSED DURING THIS CHECK RUN DATA SERVICE. THIS IS THE AMOUNT WE'RE DOING THAT PARTICULAR PART WITH THEM.

ULTIMATELY, IT'S THEIR DECISION. BUT PRIOR TO OCTOBER WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS ISSUE.

YEAH. MY OTHER QUESTION IS I KNOW WE'VE HAD DID, DID MD ANDERSON IN HOUSTON EVER TAKE OUR INSURANCE? NO, SIR. NEVER IN THE PAST. NO, SIR. OKAY. SO IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY DON'T DO THAT? NO. THEY REFUSE TO DO THAT. WE HAD HAD A FEW YEARS.

WE HAD SINGLE CASE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM. BUT THEN THIS TWO YEARS OR SO, WE DID NOT DO ANY SINGLE CASE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. I JUST WANT.

DO WE HAVE A DOCTOR ACUNA BACK ON BOARD, OR ARE WE IN TALKS WITH HIM OR.

NO. HE CANCELED OUT LATE AT THE BEGINNING, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, HE'S STILL SEEING.

IT'S A PICK AND CHOOSE IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY ARE STILL SEEING HIM.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHO'S AT THE FRONT DESK. HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO HIM OR PERSONALLY OR NOT RECENTLY? ONCE WE GOT THE EMAIL FROM HIS BUSINESS MANAGER SAYING THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER GOING TO SEE OUR PATIENTS OR OUR EMPLOYEES, SHOULD I SAY THEIR PATIENTS, THEN WE STOP COMMUNICATION.

WE NEVER HAD DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH HIM. IT WAS VERY HARD TO GET WITH HIM.

SPECIFICALLY, HIS BUSINESS MANAGER WAS HANDLING EVERYTHING AND THAT WAS CONVERSATIONS FROM ONE ONE DAY.

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AND WE HAD ANY MORE RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BUSINESS MANAGER? NO SIR, WE HAVE NOT TRIED THAT. MAYBE WE COULD TRY TO GET BACK WITH THEM AGAIN? WHERE DO WE SEND OUR PEOPLE NOW? OR WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT OUR GUYS GO TO? SEVERAL OF THEM ARE BEING PICKED UP. WE HAVE FOUR OTHER PHYSICIANS THAT HAVE BEEN PICKING UP DOCTOR O'CONNOR'S. WE HAD THIS WITH DOCTOR O'CONNOR SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN HE WENT WITH WELLMED, AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES WERE COMPLETELY DROPPED, UNLESS THEY WERE 65 YEARS OLD OR OLDER WHEN THEY HAD MEDICARE, UNLESS THEY HAD MEDICARE. SO ALL OUR EMPLOYEES WERE DROPPED FROM DOCTOR ACUNA AT THAT TIME.

THAT WAS A TWO YEAR CONTRACT. THEN HE DID COME BACK.

SO SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYEES DID GO BACK TO HIM.

SO NOW WE'VE GOT THE CHANGE AGAIN. WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE OVER THE WEEKEND THAT WENT TO THE FACILITY AND THEY REFUSED SERVICE THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO TO THAT FACILITY.

THE URGENT CARE. WHAT WAS IT OVER THERE? URGENT CARE IN BEEVILLE.

OKAY, THAT'S THE FIRST I HEAR OF IT. IF WE HEAR ABOUT IT, WE MAKE THE PHONE CALLS.

IT DOESN'T HELP ME WHEN THEY GO TO EVERYBODY ELSE OR LISTEN TO THEIR COWORKER.

WELL, I HAD THIS DONE. WELL, YOU HAD IT DONE LAST YEAR.

YEAH. OF COURSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS. IF WE HAD A CONCIERGE, WE REALLY DO MISS OUR CONCIERGE.

THAT'S OUR BIGGEST PART. EMPLOYEES DO. THAT WAS THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, WAS ADVANTAGEOUS TO OUR PLAN.

BUT IT REALLY HELPED THE EMPLOYEES. YES. THE ONLY DRAWBACK WE HAVE IS STAT CARE.

THEY STILL SEE OUR PATIENT. I MEAN, OUR EMPLOYEES.

BUT THEY'RE NOT OPEN ON SUNDAYS. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND WE SENT THIS TO ALL OUR EMPLOYEES WITH THEIR PAYCHECKS.

AND WE HAVE IT ONLINE. WE HAVE IT AT DEPARTMENTS.

I HAVE A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES. SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE A DOCTOR, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE USING THE MD LIVE.

IT DOESN'T COST THEM ANYTHING. SO I HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE KIND OF BECAUSE WE ASKED THEM ONCE WE SEE IT ON THE REPORT, HOW WAS YOUR SERVICE? DID YOU LIKE IT? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS? I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE THAT'S COME TO US.

OKAY. SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO TRY TO HELP THIS.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BAD APPLE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE THAT PIE FOR YOU.

YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO, PATRICK, HOW DO WE COMPARE OUR SELF-FUNDED HEALTH INSURANCE COMPARED TO WHAT WE COULD GET, LIKE, SAY, THROUGH TAC, WHERE IT'S BASICALLY A POOLED SELF-FUNDED PROGRAM? HOW DO WE COMPARE ONE TO THE OTHER AND KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE BEST DEAL WE CAN GET? I KNOW A COUPLE YEARS AGO, TAC LOOKED AT US AS A AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW OF HOW IT'S RAN.

AND I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO OFFER INSURANCE TO DIFFERENT COUNTIES THROUGH LISTSERV.

I KNOW TAC INCREASED THEIR RATES QUITE A BIT THIS LAST YEAR OR FOR THIS COMING YEAR AT 20% INCREASE.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO TECH, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE AT.

AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT I KNOW TALKING ABOUT DOCTORS.

WE'VE GOTTEN WORD THAT SOME DOCTORS ARE JUST DROPPING OFF EVERYBODY AND JUST TAKING MEDICARE.

THEY'RE GETTING RID OF ALL THE QUOTE UNQUOTE BOOKS.

YOU KNOW, BLUE CROSS UNITED, AETNA. YEAH. AND SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S JUST RIGHT.

SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO SIDES TO WHAT TO LOOK AT.

ONE IS THE COST TO THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER IS WHAT DOES IT COVER OR WHAT PROVIDERS DOES IT COVER.

AND IF IT'S A BIGGER POOL OF PROVIDERS FOR EMPLOYEES, THEN THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER SOLUTION.

I DON'T KNOW, I JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW. I MEAN, I DON'T MYSELF, I CAN'T LOOK AT THE TAC WEB PAGE AND GO, OKAY, THERE'S WHAT TAC PROVIDES. AND I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF HOURS.

I CAN'T SIT THERE AND COMPARE THEM. WE, WE DID GO SEE, WE HAD A GROUP THAT WENT TO AUSTIN AND HAD A MEETING WITH TAC AND THEIR INSURANCE COMMITTEE, AND WE BROUGHT THEM OUR PLAN. WE ACTUALLY SENT IT TO THEM AHEAD OF TIME SO THEY COULD REVIEW IT.

THEY COULD NOT MATCH WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

SINCE THEN, TAC IS STARTING TO DO A PLAN SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE COST FACTOR THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS NOWHERE CLOSE TO OURS.

THIS COMING YEAR, WE WENT OUT FOR RFPS. TAC DID NOT BID ON OUR PLAN BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY DON'T WORK ON A CONCIERGE SERVICE.

WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO COST THE EMPLOYEES A LOT OF MONEY LIKE WE HAD IN THE PAST.

BUT TAC IS NOW LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET THEM BECAUSE IT IS A POOL.

THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR WHOLE, WHOLE BOARD. THEY DO HAVE A SELF-FUNDED PLAN AND THEY HAVE A FULLY FUNDED PLAN.

SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO TAC. I KNOW THAT THIS COURT SEVERAL YEARS ALWAYS ASK US TO, AND WE ALWAYS ASK THEM TO TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BID THEY CAN GIVE US.

THEY DIDN'T THEY DID NOT GIVE US A BID THIS YEAR.

OKAY. OKAY. PATRICK, IF YOU COULD KIND OF UNRAVEL THAT A LITTLE BIT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. I CAN GET YOU RATES.

WHAT WHAT TAC IS PROPOSING THAT THEY GO OUT IN MAY.

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OKAY. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S AN EASY WAY TO MAP THAT OUT OR NOT, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS.

ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK FOR IT. THANK YOU. I JUST I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.

THE ISSUE WITH MD ANDERSON AND WITH OTHER PROVIDERS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IS THAT THEY WILL NOT DO BUSINESS WITH AN INSURANCE COMPANY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A NETWORK ATTACHED TO IT BECAUSE WE'RE SELF-FUNDED, THERE'S NO NETWORK.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THESE LIMITATIONS ARE COMING FROM AS WELL.

SO SO. GOT IT. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO. I'M DONE. YOU'RE DONE. OKAY.

NO ACTION. I'VE SPOKEN MY PIECE. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, SEPARATE DEPARTMENT RUNNING THE INSURANCE.

WATCHING 124 OVER SEVEN IS TO ME IS A WAY TO GO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I WILL ACQUIESCE TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN I WORKED FOR THE COUNTY, I DID NOT HAVE THE INSURANCE POLICY BECAUSE I WAS RETIRED MILITARY.

IT NEVER REALLY AFFECTED ME. BUT I DID LISTEN TO THE COMMISSIONER NARDINI.

NARDINI MANY TIMES WHO WAS ON THE PROGRAM. AND YOU KNOW, HE HAD SOME DOUBTS AND HE FELT THAT A DEPARTMENT RUNNING THE INSURANCE, PAYING 24 OVER SEVEN ATTENTION TO IT.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T, BUT I'M SAYING, IS IT YOU GOT HR AND YOU GOT INSURANCE.

THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. AND I'M I'M JUST ASKING THE COURT TO BE IN BUDGET TIME.

THIS IS TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

THIS IS THE TIME WE HAVE TO DO IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING FROM OUR EMPLOYEES AND.

I'M NOT SURE OF A COUNTY THAT ACTUALLY HAS AN INSURANCE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY.

I KNOW WE HAVE LIKE A RISK MANAGEMENT THAT'S UNDER SAFETY INSURANCE IS EITHER UNDER HR AUDITOR'S OFFICE OR TREASURER'S OFFICE.

OKAY. THAT I'M AWARE OF. I MEAN, I CAN ALWAYS ASK OUT THERE, I JUST NEVER HAVE HEARD IT SPECIFICALLY.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION. BUSINESS WORLD.

MOST COMPANIES DO HAVE THEIR OWN INSURANCE DEPARTMENT.

SO OUR GOVERNMENT ENTITY, WE KIND OF HAVE TO PULL IT A LITTLE BACK.

SOMETIMES WHAT BUSINESS DOES IS SMART. OKAY. OKAY.

SO JUST SO THE COURT IS AWARE, WE HAD TO LET YOU ALL KNOW.

OF COURSE, NOW IT IS PUBLIC RECORD. WE HAVE FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST MR THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF LAST WEEK.

I HAVE DOCUMENTATION IF YOU ALL NEED TO SEE THAT.

AND NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO FIND OUT THE NEXT STEP THAT FILED HERE IN TEXAS OR NEW YORK COUNTY.

OKAY. GIVE ME A CHANGE OF VENUE. YES. OKAY. OKAY.

NO ACTION. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON INTO PERSONNEL.

[3. PERSONNEL-Employment and current employee status changes in accordance with the current personnel policies, County Budget, and State law with notification of such changes to the payroll division of the Treasurer's office.]

IMMUNIZATION MANAGEMENT. IMMUNIZATIONS. FULL TIME.

REGULAR EXEMPT. GRADE 110. STEP SIX. AT 5550 $0.02 PER MONTH WITH A $65 PER MONTH PHONE ALLOWANCE EFFECTIVE JULY 31ST, 2026. 3.1 B. JENNY HANKIE, RETIREMENT COMMUNICATIONS SUPERVISOR, SHERIFF'S OFFICE FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 111 AT $6,725.06 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 15TH, 2026. 3.1. C APRIL BERGERON EMPLOYMENT, DEPUTY VOTER REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS. FULL TIME. REGULAR.

NOT EXEMPT. GRADE 103. STEP ONE AT $2,848.50 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 17TH, 2026.

MOVE TO APPROVE 3.1 A, B, AND C SECOND. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY GONZALES.

I MEAN GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YARDLEY TO APPROVE PERSONNEL ISSUES.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY ONE OF THE PERSONNEL? I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY A BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO JEANNIE HENKE.

HAD MANY PHONE CALLS FROM HER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN I WAS WORKING, BUT DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO BE THE SAME SHERIFF WITHOUT HEARING HER ON THAT RADIO.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR SURE. OKAY. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. 3.2 IS ACCEPTABLE.

RECORD EMPLOYEE STATUS CHANGES. WE HAVE NONE THIS MORNING.

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WOW. SO WITH THAT I WILL RECESS COMMISSIONERS COURT AT 10:10 A.M.

AND GO INTO A WORKSHOP. DO WE GET A POTTY BREAK? YEAH, YOU CAN GO SMOKE A CIGARETTE. NO WORRIES. ANYBODY NEED A BREAK? LET'S GET A SMOKE.

ANYBODY NEED A BREAK? YOU NEED A BREAK? GO. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS MORNING. I APPROVE IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT BUDGET THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.

WE HAD LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR RECLASSIFICATIONS.

WE HAD LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR STEPS. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS WORKSHOP, YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE HOW WE HANDLED ALL THE STEPS.

MOST OF THE RECLASSIFICATIONS WE DID HANDLE TO.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF 2 OR 3 OF THEM, MAYBE FOUR OF THEM THAT WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH.

BUT THE BUDGET CAME OUT EXCELLENT. WHEN WE PUT THE FINAL NUMBERS IN THERE, I WAS SHOCKED THAT THE BUDGET WAS THIS GOOD BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED, MOSTLY I'D SAY 98% OF THE STUFF THAT WAS REQUESTED IS IN THIS BUDGET.

THERE'S A NICE COLA IN THIS BUDGET. AND FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE ASKING FOR STEPS INSTEAD OF DOING THE STEPS, WE DID THE COLA. BECAUSE THE COLA IS A LOT MORE MONEY THAN THE STEPS ARE BECAUSE THE STEPS 4.15 I'M PROPOSING A 4.5% COLA AGAIN THIS YEAR FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

SO THAT TOOK CARE OF A LOT OF THE STEPS THAT WE HAVE.

TAMARA STILL BACK THERE IN THE BACK. TAMARA, THERE WAS A QUESTION ON YOURS, I THINK, ON YOUR ATTORNEY THAT YOU WANTED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO OR WEEKS AGO. I KNOW THE COURT APPROVED SOME SB 22 MONEY FOR YOU TO USE.

AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO USE THE SB 22 MONEY FOR THAT ATTORNEY, OR YOU WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE THE BUDGET? WELL, AT THIS TIME, I THINK I CAN USE SB 22.

TAMARA, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP HERE SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR.

AT THIS TIME, I THINK I CAN USE SB 22 MONEY. IT MAY COME UP IF THE SB 22 MONEY EVER GOES AWAY, THAT I'D HAVE TO ASK THE COUNTY TO COVER IT. YEAH.

I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR A NEW LEGAL SECRETARY. TWO.

THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO BE COVERED UNDER SB 22.

OKAY. BUT I THINK FOR AT LEAST THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR WILL BE COVERED WITH SB 22 FOR THAT OTHER POSITION.

NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION DOES. YES. SEE IF THEY APPROVE IT AND WE'LL BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

YES. THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION WE HAD ON YOURS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS A QUESTION ON THE DISTRICT JUDGES REQUESTING ANOTHER DISTRICT JUDGE SPECIFICALLY FOR SANPETE COUNTY. IT WAS GOING TO STAY HERE IN SANPETE COUNTY.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO PUT THAT DISTRICT JUDGE ON THE COURT SYSTEM SEPTEMBER OF 2027, AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET. WE CAME IN. IT'S JUST A PROPOSED BUDGET HERE AND Y'ALL CAN MAKE CHANGES HOWEVER YOU WANT TO TO IT IS TO PUT THAT DISTRICT JUDGE ON PAYROLL AT MIDYEAR. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GIVE IN THE DISTRICT COURT TWO MONTHS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM ON IN SEPTEMBER. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT AS WELL AND STUFF AS WE HAD.

SO LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO LOOK AT THROUGHOUT THIS BUDGET PROCESS.

IT WAS A BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PATRICK OR WHAT, BUT THIS WAS A WHOLE LOT EASIER BUDGET PROCESS THAN I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THESE BUDGETS AND STUFF.

SO PATRICK, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. HOMER, YOU TWO AND KENDALL, WHEN WE WERE HAVING OUR MEETINGS, THAT LASTED 4 OR 5 HOURS EVERY AFTERNOON AND WENT HOME AND ALL I COULD SEE WAS NUMBERS IN MY HEAD AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON.

BUT WE'VE GOT THROUGH IT. SO THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I GUESS IS 7.0 AYE,

[a. Consideration and action on setting a Cost Of Living Adjustment for FY 2027. ]

ALL RIGHT. SO AS JUDGE MENTIONED RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE IN THE BUDGET A 4.5% COLA INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED

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WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF Y'ALL IS A LITTLE PACKET WITH GENERAL FUND AND ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND AND THEN DEBT SERVICE FUND.

AND WHAT WE DID IS BASICALLY JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF, OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE FOR 2027.

AND THEN WITH THE REVENUES COMING IN THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES.

OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY OF THAT, AND PLUS ANY KIND OF MISCELLANEOUS, YOU KNOW, REVENUES COMING THROUGH.

AND THEN WITH THE EXPENDITURES. SO YOU HAVE A REQUEST COLUMN IN THE FAR RIGHT.

WHAT WE DID, WE GAVE YOU ALL 23, 24 AND 25 ACTUALS, 26 ESTIMATE AND THEN 27 REQUEST.

AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO AS FAR AS REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES GO, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ZEROING THAT OUT.

THERE ARE SOME TRANSFERS OUT THAT ARE IN THERE FOR THAT GO INTO DIFFERENT FUNDS.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE A, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST A LAW LIBRARY COMMUNICATIONS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND. YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT WE, WE BUDGET TRANSFERS FOR, FOR DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAY COME UP.

SO ON THE, ON THE VERY BOTTOM OF 2027 BUDGET COLUMN, THERE'S A 8% FIGURE.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN OUR SWEET SPOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE AT WITH OUR FUND BALANCE COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT YEAR EXPENDITURES. WE'D LIKE TO BE BETWEEN 30 AND 35%.

35 WE CONSIDER EXCESSIVE. SO WE TRY TO GET RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. AND LIKE JUDGE MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS PRETTY MUCH HAS EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET PLUS THE 4.5% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. SO WITH THAT.

SO THE FIRST ACTION AS JUDGE MENTIONED, WOULD BE 4.5% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 1.3 MILLION FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COUNTY TO THE, AS A, TO THE EMPLOYEES AND, AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S FOR EVERYONE. EMPLOYEES AND REGULAR EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S RIGHT. EMPLOYEES. THAT'S OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ACTION THAT WE WOULD THAT WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE ON FOR HERE.

AS FAR AS THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT GOES.

BOATING WORKSHOP. BUT WE'LL COME BACK INTO GENERAL SESSION AND THAT'S FINE.

YES THAT'S CORRECT. SO AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AFTER THERE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COLA THAT WILL I WILL SAY THAT THAT IS GENEROUS OR OUR EMPLOYEES REALIZE THAT BECAUSE THE CPI FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS HAS BASICALLY BEEN ABOUT 3.5%.

THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. THE CPI IS 3.5%. I THINK EVERYBODY CAN ATTEST.

YOU KNOW, EVERY MORNING I COME IN, I KIND OF CHUCKLE NOW BECAUSE I NEVER KNOW WHAT THE GAS PRICE IS GOING TO BE.

SOMETIMES IT'LL BE 327, SOMETIMES IT'LL BE 367, 380 OR 387.

YEAH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE SUPERMARKET AND H-E-B, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, IT'S INCREASES.

AND SO, BUT YOU'RE AT CPI IS 3.5%. I THINK IT I THINK EVERYBODY MAY FEEL THAT MORE, THOUGH, WHENEVER THEY ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO THE STORES AND, AND WHATNOT, THEY I THINK THEY FEEL IT'S MORE THAN 3.5%.

I JUST HOPE THAT MAYBE LIKE, FROM A RETENTION POINT OF VIEW, THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS WE NEED TO REALLY BE PROMOTING IN OUR COUNTY.

CORRECT. LET THE EMPLOYEES KNOW THAT, HEY, YOU'RE GETTING A COST OF LIVING INCREASE THAT IS ACTUALLY ABOVE CPI FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT JUDGE HE YOU KNOW, HE WAS THAT WAS ONE THING HE WAS WANTING TO DO WAS MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS TAKEN CARE OF.

AND SO THAT WAS THAT WAS ONE OF HIS TOP PRIORITIES GOING IN TO OUR DISCUSSIONS.

SO ANYTHING ELSE ON THE COLA. WE'LL MOVE ON. OKAY.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PART 7.0 B WHICH IS CONSIDERED.

[b. Consideration and action on each reclassification requested by respective departments for FY 2027. ]

AND YOU GOT, I THINK, A PRINT OUT THERE. YEAH.

I'LL HAVE ANOTHER PRINT OUT THERE. I THINK FROM LAST WEEK, THERE WERE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO OF THESE RECLASSIFICATIONS. THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE FOR GENERAL FUND, ONE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE GENERAL FUND. THERE YOU'LL HAVE THE LIST OF ITEMS AND WE'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT AND KIND OF INDIVIDUALLY.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THEM BETWEEN MYSELF AND, AND HOMER WILL GET THOSE,

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CLERK. CLERK ONE THAT'S GOING FROM A GOING FROM.

CLERK ONE TO A COURT COORDINATOR. COORDINATOR.

AND THIS WAS IN PRECINCT ONE. PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT ONE.

IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THAT'S GOING FROM A BASIC IT'S GOING TO BE RECLASSING FROM AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST AND GOING TO A RECOVERY SPECIALIST.

THEIR CURRENT SALARY, THE REQUESTED INCREASE THERE AND THEN WHAT? THE NEW SALARY WILL BE? YES, SIR. IT WAS A PRECINCT.

PRECINCT THREE. OKAY. THE FIRST ONE WAS PRECINCT THREE.

THREE. AND IS NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR. MOVING THAT TO A NETWORK ENGINEER. AND THAT'S THE CURRENT SALARY PLUS INCREASE TO THE NEXT ONE.

THE DA'S OFFICE HAS THREE POSITIONS. THERE. GOT PROMOTED TO A FIRST ASSISTANT ATTORNEY AND THEN A PARALEGAL ONE TO PARALEGAL TWO, AND THEN ALSO AN INCREASE TO ONE OF THEIR ATTORNEYS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DUTIES THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE DOING.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU ALL ABOUT EARLIER.

THEY PLANNED ON DOING THIS IN SEPTEMBER OF THE FALL OF 2027.

BUT THE WAY THE BUDGET WORKED OUT. NO, JUDGE.

THIS IS FOR THE DA'S OFFICE. OH, THAT'S FOR THE DA. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND THEN IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, WE'RE RECLASSING A PAYABLE CLERK TO AN ACCOUNT PAYABLE LEAD.

COUNTY PARKS. THERE'S A MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT TO GOING TO A MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT THREE.

SO THERE'S. SO THOSE ARE YOUR RECLASSIFICATIONS.

AND THEN BELOW THAT ARE TOTAL STIPENDS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE JAIL.

SO AND THOSE THE STIPENDS ARE INCLUDED WITH THE BUDGET AS WELL ALREADY.

SO WE'LL JUST NEED ACTION ON, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE GET BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION ACTION ON THOSE CODES JUST BASED ON THERE.

THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S BASED ON THEIR LONGEVITY AND THEIR PAY.

YES, SIR. AUTOMATICALLY. SO FOR THE FIRST ONE.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT CLERK ONE AND COURT COORDINATOR? BECAUSE THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL RAISE.

ON THAT PARTICULAR POSITION THAT COMES OUT OF COMMISSIONER THREE DEPARTMENT.

NOW WE HAVE ALL OF THE ADMIN STAFF COMES OUT OF COMMISSIONERS COURT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SEPARATE. BUT WHAT WE DID ON THAT PARTICULAR POSITION, THAT PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE WILL ALSO BE DOING PARK WORK FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SHE WILL BE THE ADMIN STAFF FOR THE PARK ITSELF.

SO WE DID NOT HAVE TO HIRE A FULL TIME REGULAR EMPLOYEE FOR THE PARKS TO HANDLE THE BILLING, INVOICES, PHONE CALLS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE WE HAD THIS PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE WORKING OUT OF THE OFFICE, SHE IS GOING TO INTAKE ALL OF THAT PARTICULAR.

SO WE MOVED IT FROM A COURT POSITION INTO THE COURT ADMIN POSITION.

AND IF I READ THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ON THOSE TWO, IS THE COURT COORDINATOR MORE OF A LEADERSHIP POSITION, THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR, SUPPORT COORDINATOR.

I THOUGHT YOU DID. I THINK IT'S GOING TO THE COURT COORDINATOR.

COURT COORDINATOR. SO THE THAT PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE WORKS IN THE OFFICE.

IT'S JUST HER BY HERSELF. AND THEN THE STAFF THAT KIND OF COME IN AND OUT.

THE ADMIN PART OF IT IS WHERE WE ADDED THAT ADDITIONAL BECAUSE OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SHE'S CURRENTLY DOING IT RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF SEE HOW MUCH WORK WAS INVOLVED MOVING FORWARD, SINCE THAT WOULD BE A FULL TIME POSITION WITH THE PARK ITSELF, BUT JUST KIND OF DOING SOME OF THE ROAD AND BRIDGE STUFF.

WE'RE COMBINING TWO, TWO POSITIONS, RIGHT? BUT ALL OF THE FUNDING WILL BE COMING OUT OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT GENERAL FUND.

WE'RE NOT USING ANY OF THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDING ITSELF, AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING UNDER PARKS TO DO THAT.

IT'S ALL GOING TO COME OUT OF COMMISSIONERS COURT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NORMAN. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE GENERAL FUND? RECLASSIFICATIONS. I DID ASK FOR AN HE3. I DIDN'T IT WAS ON THERE WHEN WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY.

BUT NOW IT'S GONE. IT'S COMING UP. IT'S COMING UP.

THIS IS GENERAL FUND RECLASSIFICATIONS. YEAH.

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IT'S ON THE NEXT ONE. NEXT PAGE. OKAY.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW YOU GO TO THE EMPLOYEE REQUEST FOR THE THE PRECINCTS IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.

WE HAVE FOUR RECLASSIFICATIONS ON THERE COMING OUT OF PRECINCT ONE.

DO YOU MISS ONE? THERE'S NO HE THREE OKAY. WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? THREE. THAT'S BENNY, THAT'S MANUEL, THAT'S JOHNNY.

AND YOU GOT A CREWMAN GOING TO HE OH, ONE. THAT'S NOT IT.

I HAVE A HE02. I WAS GOING WITH HCO THREE. OKAY, I DID NOT NOT THIS.

SO SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A FIFTH ONE. RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT DOING THIS. WE'RE NOT DOING THE CREW. I HAD AN HEHE2 GOING TO HE3.

HE DOES ALL THE I WORKS IN. HE'S MY ALL ROUND GUY ON THE FIELD.

THAT WOULD BE DANIEL ESPINOSA.

ALL RIGHT. SO IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE RECLASSIFICATIONS, THERE WILL BE FIVE NOW THAT'LL BE LOOKED AT OUT OF PRECINCT ONE.

THE FIRST WILL BE RECLASSIFYING FROM A FOREMAN TO A GENERAL FOREMAN AND THEN A LEAD, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WILL BE A LEAD FOREMAN TO A FOREMAN.

AND THERE WILL BE AN AG OH TWO TO A LEAD MAN.

AND THE FOURTH WOULD BE A CREWMAN TO AN AG OH ONE, AND THE FIFTH WILL BE AN EE OH TWO TO AN E OH THREE.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR Y'ALL.

ARE WE RECLASSIFYING ALL GENERAL FOREMAN'S AT THAT WAGE OR ARE WE JUST JUST THIS IS HIS REQUEST.

COMMISSIONER ON YOUR TWO THAT YOU'RE MOVING TO THE THREE.

IS THAT A SPECIALIZED. YES. HE'S. HE'S. DANIEL ESPINOSA AND BASICALLY HE'S MY WORKS GUY, MY BRUSHSTROKE GUY. MY MY THIS, I MEAN, HE JUST HAS A LIST OF ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS HE DOES.

I'M GLAD THAT PART. BUT MY, MY QUESTION IS THE SPECIALIZED, SPECIALIZED.

HE SPECIALIZED. HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S COMPLETED 100% OF THE EYE WORKS TRAINING THAT I KNOW OF.

MR.. IS THAT WHAT THE SALARY STUDY RECOMMENDED AT THAT RATE FOR THE GENERAL FOREMAN POSITION? SORRY. ONE MORE SECOND. HOW DO WE GET THAT NUMBER? IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. THE ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? YES. OH, THAT. THAT'S BASED ON THE CURRENT PERSON IN THAT POSITION.

THE LIST THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MAG REPORT.

THE MAG REPORT IS JUST THE BASE. AND THIS RIGHT HERE IS BASED ON THE CURRENT EMPLOYEE SENIOR POSITION THEY'VE HAD FOR A WHILE.

THAT'S ON WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY AT RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S OVER 30 YEARS. THREE YEARS 87.993. RIGHT.

YEAH. THAT'S JUST A NUMBER HE CAME UP WITH. OR HOW DO WE GET TO THAT NUMBER IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

SO THE 87,000 IS HIS CURRENT. IT'S HIS CURRENT SALARY RIGHT NOW.

THE PERSON THAT'S IN THAT POSITION. OKAY. HE'S REQUESTING THE 7786 INCREASE TO THE REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSIONER IS REQUESTING. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TAG NUMBER FOR THAT, THE BASE SALARY, THIS EMPLOYEE IS ALREADY WAY ABOVE THE MAG DUE TO TENURE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IS THAT MY, MY GENERAL FOREMAN DOESN'T MAKE THAT ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO THAT.

SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE POSITIONS THEMSELVES AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY, YOU NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. TO HEAR.

BUT THAT AMOUNT IS RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY. SO, NORMA, THERE IS SOMETHING YOU COULD GET ME THAT WOULD HELP ME FIGURE SOME OF THESE THINGS OUT.

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SO I'D LIKE TO JUST SEE A LIST OF ACTUAL JOB POSITIONS FOR THE PRECINCTS.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A GENERAL FOREMAN, A FOREMAN, A LEAD FOREMAN.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO. A SIMPLE LIST OF AVAILABLE POSITIONS.

SIMPLE POSITIONS. YOU HAVE YOUR GENERAL FOREMAN, A FOREMAN, A LEAD MAN, WHICH WE CALL LEAD MAN.

THEN YOU HAVE YOUR HCO3, WHICH IS THE SPECIALIZED.

IT'S A NEW POSITION YOU SET UP THIS YEAR, HEO2S THAT ARE SPECIFIC WITH THE CDL REQUIREMENT H1S.

THEN YOU HAVE YOUR CREWMAN WHO IS A LIST OF ALL YOUR.

IS A LEAD FOREMAN THE SAME AS A LEAD MAN? YES, YES.

YOU DON'T HAVE A LEAD FOREMAN. IT'S EITHER A LEAD MAN, WHICH IS RIGHT UNDER YOUR FOREMAN CREW LEADER.

YEAH, A CREW LEADER, BUT WE CALL IT A LEAD MAN.

THE SECOND ITEM ON THIS LIST IS REFERRING TO A LEAD FOREMAN.

THAT'S WHY I'M GETTING A LITTLE. YEAH. MAY HAVE BEEN JUST A LEAD MAN.

TERMINOLOGY. AND THE ORDER THAT I GAVE THEM TO YOU.

COMMISSIONERS FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM PART.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW FOR THE RECLASSIFICATIONS ON ROAD AND BRIDGE.

ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT PAGE WILL BE NEW POSITIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND.

[c. Consideration and action on each new position requested by respective departments for FY 2027. ]

AND IT DEPARTMENT WOULD BE AN APPLICATION SPECIALIST. THEY'RE WORKING ON WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS HAVING SOMEBODY THAT WORKS SPECIFICALLY WITH ODYSSEY AND ENCODE.

THE NEXT FOUR POSITIONS ARE DISTRICT COURT. THAT'S WHAT JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT.

THE ORIGINAL HOPE WAS THAT THE. STATE WOULD COME BACK AND AND ONCE THEY DID THE STUDY THEY WERE JUST SHY OF, OF BEING ABLE TO BE LOOKED AT TO GET A FOURTH DISTRICT JUDGE.

AND SO WHAT THE, WHAT THE JUDGES WERE ASKING FOR WAS AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE ALONG WITH THE REPORTER AND COURT COORDINATOR FOR SANPETE COUNTY.

AND IF THE ORIGINAL PLAN WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH, THEY WERE HOPING THAT WOULD HAVE STARTED IN SEPTEMBER 1ST AFTER THE LEGISLATURE WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THEIR, YOU KNOW, PROCESS. AND SO NOW, AS JUDGE MENTIONED YOU KNOW, HE WAS MAYBE LOOKING AT SEEING ABOUT DOING A JUNE 1ST START AND IT'LL ALSO GIVE THEM TIME TO GET SETTLED.

WE'LL GET ACROSS THE STREET. THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S RIGHT.

HOW THEIR SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE. SURE. SO WHO DETERMINES IF THAT JUDGE GETS CREATED.

IS THAT A DONE DEAL? WELL, AS FAR. YEAH. WELL, I THINK THAT IT'S A DONE DEAL PROBABLY FOR NOT FOR THE FOURTH JUDGE TO NOT BE CREATED FOR 2027 BASED ON THE THEY HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS.

I THINK THEY'RE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A 1.15 FULL TIME EQUIVALENT.

I THINK THEIR RATE CAME BACK AT A 0.97. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE REVISITED.

A LITTLE WAYS TO GO YET A LITTLE WAYS TO GO THAT'S RIGHT UP THERE.

SO AND THERE'S AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SANPETE COUNTY AND THE OTHER FOUR COUNTIES IN, IN THE DISTRICT IN OUR FIVE COUNTY WIDE DISTRICT.

SO. OKAY. SO YEAH, SO THAT THAT CONVERSATION WILL PROBABLY COME BACK UP AGAIN.

COMMISSIONER YARDLEY BACK IN, I GUESS MAYBE AT THE END OF 27 INTO 28 FOR THEM TO DO THEIR, TO DO THEIR PROCESS AGAIN. DAS OFFICE. SHE'S ASKING FOR ANOTHER ATTORNEY AND ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR.

JP SIX OFFICE IS LOOKING AT ADDING A DEPUTY CLERK ONE.

COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS LOOKING AT ADDING.

THIS JUDGE IS TALKING TO TAMARA ABOUT WHERE TO GO.

WAS THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY AND INVESTIGATOR AND ALSO LEGAL SECRETARY.

TWO. AND THEN ALSO DEPARTMENT LOOKING AT ADDING ANOTHER INTERNAL AUDITOR.

THE COUNTY TREASURER CONVERTING THE PART TIME TO FULL TIME POSITION FOR DEPUTY CLERK THREE.

SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ASKING FOR TWO MORE DEPUTIES AND A SERGEANT.

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AND THEN A PART TIME POSITION AT THE AIRPORT FOR A OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE PERSON THERE.

AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE WHAT THE COST OF THE NEW POSITIONS WOULD BE FOR GENERAL FUND.

SO FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WHO'S LEADING THAT DEPARTMENT NOW UNDER KIMBERLY, WHO'S IT'S THAT'S THE REASON I WANT. DO YOU HAVE A FORM IN THERE NOW? YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE A FORM IN THERE. YEAH. SHE CAN SAY KIMBERLY.

YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. KIMBERLY. NOW IT'D BE LIKE JEREMY'S BEEN HERE THE LONGEST.

AND SO HE'S THE ONE THAT WAS ASKED TO MOVE TO MAINTENANCE THREE FOR THAT REASON.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN NEW POSITIONS IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS. SEEING PRECINCT ONE.

THERE'S I SEE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, EIGHT CREWMEN AND 801 AND 202 THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED IN PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT THREE. THERE'S TWO CREWMEN AND 202 BEING REQUESTED.

AND IN PRECINCT 4102.

OKAY. SO ROUGHLY 36 NEW EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE COUNTY.

IS THAT WHAT THAT COMES OUT TO? I DIDN'T DO THE MATH.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE AUDITOR. 36 SOUNDS GOOD.

I DON'T HAVE MY TEN KEY NEXT TO ME. COMMISSIONER SO I CAN'T ADD UP.

DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FINGERS AND TOES.

DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FINGERS AND TOES FOR THAT. OKAY, OKAY.

THAT TOOK CARE OF THE RECLASSIFICATION. THAT TOOK CARE OF.

SO WE DID. WE DID BOTH THERE. WE DID RECLASSIFICATIONS AND NEW POSITIONS IN BOTH GENERAL FUND AND ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.

OKAY. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE'RE USING PROPOSING FOR THE RATES AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS PROPOSED TO USE THE VAR RATES FOR.

YEAH. WELL, LET'S DO THIS FIRST FOR THE VAR RATES FOR THE COUNTY AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, THE GENERAL FUND AND DEBT SERVICE FUND. AND THEN THE N AND R RATE FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.

AND I CAN I'LL TELL YOU ALL THE DIFFERENCES IN A MINUTE BETWEEN USING THE OTHER SIDE.

SO WITH THE. USING THE VAR RATE VERSUS THE N AND R RATE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL $1,657,734 IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL $119,710 BY USING THE VAR RATE COMPARED TO THE N AND R, AND THEN ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PROPOSED USING THE N AND R RATE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE THAT. BUT THAT DIFFERENCE IS $894 ACROSS THE FOUR PRECINCTS AND BREAKING DOWN THE PRECINCTS.

PRECINCT ONE IF YOU ALL VOTE TO DO THE VAR RATE WOULD GET AN ADDITIONAL $131,280.

PRECINCT TWO WOULD BE $25,094, PRECINCT THREE WOULD BE $420,793.

PRECINCT FOUR WOULD BE $79,727.

THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO SEE WHICH RATE WE'RE GOING TO USE, SO WE CAN GET IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN APPROVE THEM.

SO MY QUESTION, I GUESS, IS IF WE GO WITH THE VAR FOR THE COUNTY AND THE INS AND THE NER FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE,

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WE JUST WENT UP THE AVERAGE VALUE. THE AVERAGE VALUE THE THE AVERAGE VALUE WENT UP $2,500.

I THINK OF A HOME AND EVERYBODY USED THESE RATES.

WE'D BE LOOKING AT. WELL, I THINK THAT USES AN R RATING OR A VAR RATE.

PROPOSED RATE. OKAY. BUT WE WOULD BE IT WOULD SEE A DECREASE.

I MEAN A PROJECTED DECREASE IN THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.

YOU KNOW THE VALUE DIDN'T GO UP VERY MUCH AT ALL FOR AVERAGE HOME VALUE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE USING THE RATES WHERE WE'RE AT, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 5.8872 CENT DECREASE IN A TAX RATE FROM LAST YEAR TO FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

AND WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF NEW TAX VALUE ADDED TO THE RULE IS THAT IN THIS WORKSHEET SOMEWHERE.

AT PAGE THE ONE THAT SAYS THE COUNTY. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE I BELIEVE.

RIGHT ON. PAGE TWO.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ONE THAT SAYS COUNTY. AND ON PAGE.

PAGE THREE. LINE 24 213,000,001 24566. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY WORKSHEET, LINE 24. GOT IT. IF YOU WANT ME TO GO LOOK AT SOMETHING REAL QUICK, I CAN PUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM AND GIVE YOU AN EXACT AMOUNT.

OH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHERE THIS IS GOING AND WHAT THE IMPACT IS TO OUR TAXPAYERS.

WELL, THAT WILL BE ON THE NOTICE WHENEVER WE POST IT.

WHEN IT'S PROPOSED, IT'LL BE ALL THOSE FIGURES.

I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON IT.

WHY WOULD YOU NEED I KNOW NOVEL QUESTION.

WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON? JUST VOTE ON IT AND THEN YOU FIND OUT. ISN'T THAT HOW THEY DID THAT THING IN CONGRESS? PROPOSAL. WHO'S RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. JUST PROPOSED.

THAT'S FINE. ISN'T THAT WHAT PELOSI SAID? YOU GOT A VOTE ON IT AND KNOW WHAT'S IN IT.

RIGHT. EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. JUST CAN'T GO ABOVE WHAT'S PROPOSED.

OTHERWISE, WE'LL HAVE TO REPUBLISH. RIGHT. OKAY.

SO YOU'RE GOOD WITH GOING WITH THE VAR FOR COUNTY AND INS AND NNR FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

AND THAT GETS YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. IT GETS US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

AND IN THE DEBT SERVICE REAL QUICK, WE HAD TO ACCOUNT FOR THE UPCOMING JAIL PAYMENTS COMING UP.

SO THAT IS INCLUDED. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS PROBABLY STRUCTURING AND THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BARELY GOING TO OPEN UP PHASE ONE OF THE RFQ ON THURSDAY.

SO TALKING TO OUR TONY. SO WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN A BETTER SITUATION TO START ISSUING BONDS AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, HE SAID. BECAUSE ONCE YOU START GETTING INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON, YOU START LOSING FOCUS OF INVESTORS.

AND SO IT GETS YOU'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE A BETTER, A BETTER, HOPEFULLY OUTCOME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

AND THEN IT WILL STRUCTURE OUR PAYMENT TO WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT. HAVING ONLY AN INTEREST PAYMENT IN OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR OF 27.

SO BUT WE HAVE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT SHOULD THAT NOT HAPPEN, NOT NOT THE JARGON, BUT SHOULD THE ISSUANCE KIND OF FALL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY? WE'LL HAVE SOME FUND BALANCE IN THAT DEBT SERVICE FUND TO BE ABLE TO COVER ANY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ADDITIONAL INTEREST OR SOMETHING THAT MAY NEED TO GET PAID.

CAN I POINT SOMETHING OUT TO YOU? COMMISSIONER. LOOK AT THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

MARCY, IF YOU'LL COME UP BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE LISTENING, PLEASE.

EITHER THAT OR SCREAM LOUDER. YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.

YEAH. LOOK ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE WORKSHEET REAL QUICK.

AND IT'LL SAY SPECIAL ROAD AND BRIDGE. IT'S A SEPARATE ONE.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON THAT SAME LINE 24 THE THE VALUE OF NEW IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S 2,460,000,212.

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AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE ABATEMENTS DON'T REALLY HIT THE ROAD AND BRIDGE SIDE JUST SO YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE CAN GO WITH THE N AND R FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE AND STILL MANAGED TO DO ALL RIGHT IF MR. KUSHNICK SAYS SO. EXACTLY. BUT JUST SO YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE WORKSHEETS.

INTERESTING. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHAT TO DO, MARCY.

AND REAL QUICK, ON THE ABATEMENT SIDE, THAT IS, WE STILL HAVE THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL IN THE GENERAL FUND, SOME MONEY IN CONTINGENCY FOR ANY KIND OF LITIGATION THAT MAY COME UP BECAUSE ONCE THOSE ABATEMENTS FALL OFF, YOU KNOW. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT IS INCLUDED AS WELL.

OKAY. THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. OKAY. LOOK AT ME. WELL, I KNOW, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT'S THE PROPOSAL.

WE'LL GO BACK INTO GENERAL SESSION HERE AND WE'RE STILL IN WORKSHOP.

WE CAN'T MAKE NO MOTIONS. YEAH. WE'LL GO BACK INTO GENERAL SESSION AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THESE ISSUES.

IF YOU GOTTA DO THAT ONE THING BECAUSE HE'S ONE POSITION.

YEAH. WE'LL VOTE ON EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

SO WE'LL HAVE THEM. OKAY. AND WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, JUST REAL QUICK WE DID ADD FROM LAST WEEK ON THE MONIES THAT WE SEND TO THE VARIOUS OUTSIDE ENTITIES WE DID INCLUDE.

OH THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE IT YET. NO DON'T WORRY, WE DID INCLUDE THE DISASTER RECOVERY GROUP OF $10,000.

AND SO SO THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED FROM THE SHEET THAT Y'ALL RECEIVED LAST YEAR.

THAT NUMBER IS IN THERE. AND WHENEVER WE GET BACK INTO SESSION, WE NEED TO ACT ON THOSE AS WELL.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. PAPER TO FOLLOW. PROMISE.

OKAY. YEAH.

I KNOW WE HAVE THAT LIST HERE SOMEWHERE.

OKAY. WE'LL GET A COPY OF THAT IN A MINUTE FOR YOU.

OKAY. WE'RE GETTING A COPY. YEAH, YEAH. SO WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE WORKSHOP AT 10:53 A.M.

AND RECONVENE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND GO INTO ITEM 7.0.

CONSIDERATION ACTION ON SETTING A COST OF LIVING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027.

AT 4.5%. I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT SECOND. CAN WE SAY FOR EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, PLEASE EMPLOYEES, I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT FOR EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

I CAN SAY IT LOUDER IF YOU WISH, AND I'LL SECOND THAT FOR EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ZAGORSKY. I THINK YOU DO.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION APPROVED.

7.0 B CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON EACH RECLASSIFICATION REQUEST BY PROSPECTIVE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2020.

NOW, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS INDIVIDUALLY OR JUST AS A GROUP? I THINK WE CAN VOTE ON THEM AS A GROUP, AND THERE'S STILL ONE THAT WE HAVE TO DO, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER ZAGORSKY HCO THREE.

RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. ADD THAT ONE TO HCO FROM H2O2 TO HCO THREE.

OKAY. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE AMOUNT ON IT THOUGH. YEAH.

NO SIR. WE DO NOT HAVE AN AMOUNT ON THAT. OKAY.

WE'LL NEED TO GET THAT. ALL RIGHT. SHOULD WE APPROVE IT WITHOUT THE AMOUNT, YOUR HONOR? YES. OKAY. OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT.

WE APPROVE EACH RECLASSIFICATION REQUESTED BY RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR FY 2027.

SECOND, A MOTION BY GILLESPIE WITH. SECONDED BY SIKORSKI.

THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE? INCLUDED ADDITIONS BY COMMISSIONER.

OKAY, IF I MUST. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S TO INCLUDE THE NEW POSITION FOR HE03 FOR COMMISSIONER ZAGORSKY.

I'LL AMEND MY ONE. THAT'S RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE HIM OUT IN THE COLD NOW, DO WE?

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AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT WE WILL GO TO CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON MISCELLANEOUS FUND. WHAT PROPOSAL? IT'S NOT ON THERE YET.

THIS IS WHAT WE GOT TO APPROVE THE MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS.

OH YOU WANT TO DO THAT NEXT OR LAST? YEAH. YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO DO IT.

LET'S DO IT RIGHT NOW. THE MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS.

APPROVAL OF THE MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS. ALL RIGHT.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MISCELLANEOUS MISCELLANEOUS FUND ADDITIONS SECOND REQUESTED 2027 FOR 2027.

DON'T WANT TO FORGET THAT. YEAH, THEY GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY GONZALEZ.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. I HATE GOING OUT OF ORDER.

MOTION CARRIED. YEAH. NOW WE CAN GO DOWN TO CONSIDERATION ACTION ON EACH NEW POSITION REQUESTED BY RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

AND WE CAN VOTE ON THAT AS ONE MOTION ALSO. CORRECT.

YES. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU, MR. KUSHNICK? THAT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. I MOVE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE NEW POSITIONS REQUESTED BY RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027.

SECOND MOTION. IS THAT IS THAT GOING TO IS THAT GOING TO START THE DIFFERENT.

ARE Y'ALL GOING TO BEGIN ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS OR DEPARTMENTS AT A CERTAIN DATE? OR HOW DO Y'ALL WANT TO BE. JANUARY. JANUARY 1ST.

JANUARY 1ST. IT WOULD BE JANUARY 1ST, WOULDN'T IT? NO. THE DISTRICT COURT DISTRICT. WAIT A MINUTE.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. OKAY. THE DISTRICT COURT THAT WON'T START UNTIL MID-YEAR ALSO.

AND ATTORNEY AND ALSO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO EXCLUDE.

THAT ONE WILL BE MID-YEAR AS WELL. UNTIL. RIGHT.

OKAY. UNTIL THE FOLLOWING. YES. FOR THOSE TWO.

YEAH. THOSE TWO WILL HAVE TO BE SEPARATE MOTION, RIGHT? OKAY.

MY MOTION APPLIES TO EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO.

I'LL MEND MY SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOT THAT ONE.

NOW, WHO DO I HAVE TO APPROVE FOR A START IN MID YEAR? YES. IT'S A MID YEAR. WOULD BE DISTRICT COURT DISTRICT JUDGE.

DISTRICT COURT JUDGE. YOU HAVE THAT. AND AND THERE THERE'S A REPORTER COORDINATOR AND A BAILIFF IN THERE.

COURT COORDINATOR. THERE'S A THERE'S BAILIFF.

THERE'S FOUR OF THEM. THERE'S ONE THERE'S FOUR POSITIONS IN THAT IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

BAILIFF. WHO ELSE? OH. COURT COORDINATOR. OKAY.

OKAY. JUDGE. REPORTER. COORDINATOR. YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH.

OKAY. SO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE FOR MID-YEAR APPOINTMENT STARTS OF THE AN ADDITIONAL DISTRICT COURT JUDGE, A COURT COORDINATOR, A COURT REPORTER AND A BAILIFF FOR 2027.

WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON THE OTHER ONE YET. RIGHT? NO. WHAT? WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO VOTE ON THE ONES FOR JANUARY 1ST.

OH, YOU DIDN'T CALL FOR THE MOTION. YOU DIDN'T CALL FOR THE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, JUDGE, I PULL MY MOTION.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON WHAT I MOVED FOR LAST TIME.

ALL IN FAVOR? I HATE THIS TIME OF YEAR, FOLKS, I REALLY DO.

ALL IN FAVOR OF HOWARD'S MOTION, SAY YES I OKAY.

NOW. OPPOSED. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. OKAY, NOW I MOVE FOR THE START OF A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE, A COURT COORDINATOR, A BAILIFF AND A COURT REPORTER TO START MID YEAR 2027. SECOND. OKAY.

GOT A MOTION. AND SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. WAS THAT OKAY, PATRICK? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

PRESSURE. COUNTY ATTORNEY. COUNTY ATTORNEY. THAT'S RIGHT.

TO. TO EXCLUDE THE THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY POSITION TO EXCLUDE THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION TO A NEW MOTION. A NEW MOTION.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO EXCLUDE THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

IS THAT ALSO FOR A MID YEAR START OR JUST JUST EXCLUDE THEM ALTOGETHER FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

ALL RIGHT. I MOVE TO EXCLUDE THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY FROM THE 2027 YEAR.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. NO. I ACTUALLY WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL THIS STUFF.

IT REALLY WAS A LOT OF. EXCUSE ME. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, WE STILL GOT ONE MORE THING. YEAH, ONE MORE THING.

BUT EVERYTHING'S COVERED UNDER THOSE NEW POSITIONS.

ALL RIGHT. PATRICK. PATRICK, GET EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN THERE BEFORE WE GO AGAIN.

LAST ONE. YES. CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON REVISIONS TO THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY'S PROPOSED BUDGET.

[d. Consideration and action on revisions to San Patricio County's Proposed Budget, authorize filing with County Clerk and posting on our County website and schedule any necessary public hearings.]

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WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM THAT. 0INS WILL GO WITH THE VAR RATE FOR INS ALSO.

SO THAT WOULD BE COUNTY VARINSVAR ROAD AND BRIDGE AND NRK THAT'S PROPOSED THE ONLY ONE WE NEED, RIGHT? THAT'S MY MOTION. SECOND.

THANK YOU TOM. WHAT ARE YOU DOING LAUGHING. WHAT ARE YOU DOING LAUGHING.

A LITTLE SINISTER. THAT'S THE ONLY RIGHTS WE NEED, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL WE NEED. OKAY.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. MOTION. AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY. WE'RE DONE. I THINK MOTION TO ADJOURN, YOUR HONOR.

SECOND. MOTION BY GILLESPIE. SECOND ADVISOR TO ADJOURN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIED. ADJOURN 11:01 A.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.