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HAVE TWO CARDS THIS MORNING. FIRST ONE IS FROM SONYA WEATHERSPOON. MISS WEATHERSPOON, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR PRECINCT THAT YOU'RE AT LIVING IN. GOOD MORNING. I'M SONYA WITHERSPOON AND I'M FROM PRECINCT THREE. I. MY HUSBAND AND I ATTENDED BRANT CASEY'S RALLY ON APRIL THE 18TH. AND AT THAT RALLY, WE HEARD SOME EXPERT INFORMATION AND WE HEARD FROM OTHER SPEAKERS. AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY'VE BOTH COME TODAY TO SPEAK BEFORE THE HEARING TOMORROW. BUT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS ON LAST MONDAY, I WENT AND TALKED TO COUNTY JUDGE KREBS, AND MY HUSBAND AND I WERE BRAINSTORMING ON SUNDAY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD DO BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE THERE WERE INTERESTED IN THE EDUCATION AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EXPERTS. SO I PROPOSED AN IDEA TO THE JUDGE, AND I'M SO EXCITED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT HE'S SUPPORTING THE IDEA OF HAVING A A WATER RIGHTS FAIR HERE IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. HE DID SAY HE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE CALLED A SAN PATRICIO COUNTY WATER RIGHTS FAIR, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT IT LIMITED TO PEOPLE IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY.

I DID REACH OUT TO ALL THREE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER ZAGORSKY, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE WHO WERE THERE AT THE FAIR, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO SUPPORT US.

SO THE JUDGE ENCOURAGED ME TO SPEAK TO BOBBY MCCOOL. SO I SPOKE WITH HIM ON ON LAST MONDAY, AND HE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO DO A WATER TEST OF PRIVATE CITIZENS WELLS, JUNE 24TH AND 25TH. SO I REACHED OUT TO HIM ON JUNE THE 24TH. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS BETWEEN 730 AND 11, WHERE CITIZENS CAN DROP THEIR WATER OFF. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE GOING TO CREATE A VIDEO SHOWING YOU HOW TO DO THAT. AND THEN ON THURSDAY, YOU CAN COME BETWEEN 9 AND 8. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE SESSIONS BETWEEN NINE AND NOON, ONE AND FOUR AND A SIX AND EIGHT, WHERE YOU CAN COME AND HEAR FROM EXPERTS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM TODAY IN A CLASSROOM, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A FAIR WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE AVAILABLE FOR THE EXPERTS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INDUSTRY FOR WATER AND UTILITIES. WE'VE ALSO INVITED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO BE THERE TO HELP CITIZENS WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS. MR. ARROYO HAS ALREADY AGREED TO HAVE TWO BOOTHS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW HE ACTUALLY TESTS WATER, BUT HE TESTS FOR E COLI AND FECAL MATTER. BUT HE DOESN'T TEST THIS LEVEL. SO CITIZENS THAT DON'T WANT TO WAIT CAN ACTUALLY PAY $85 AND SEND THEIR WATER UP TO A AND M, AND WE'RE GOING TO END THAT VIDEO, EXPLAIN HOW TO DO THAT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS TEST ON ITS $15, YOU'LL DROP YOUR WATER OFF WEDNESDAY MORNING, COME BACK THURSDAY FOR THE FAIR, YOU HAVE TO ATTEND A CLASS ON HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR WELL. AND SO WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT THE FARM BUREAU IS GOING TO BE HOSTING THIS EVENT, AND THEY WANT CITIZENS HELP WITH THE PRIVATE WELLS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A DATABASE FOR A BASELINE. SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT THEY WANT SOMETHING ON THE RECORD BEFORE PUMPING MAY HAPPEN. SO THAT'S HOW CITIZENS WITH A PRIVATE WELL CAN HELP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FROM MISS DAWKINS. DAWKINS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS TEAL DAWKINS. I'M A BEE COUNTY RESIDENT. I'M HERE TODAY. NOT AS A POLITICIAN, NOT AS A LAWYER, NOT AS A BUT AS A WIFE, A MOTHER, A BUSINESS OWNER, AND A RANCH OWNER HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. LIKE MANY FAMILIES IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, WE DEPEND ON OUR SHALLOW WELLS.

THIS IS NOT JUST A CONVENIENCE, IT'S OUR LIFELINE. IT IS WHAT WE DRINK, WHAT WE COOK WITH, WHAT SUSTAINS OUR HOMES, OUR ANIMALS, AND OUR WAY OF LIFE. AND RIGHT NOW, THAT LIFELINE IS BEING PUT AT RISK. WE ARE FACING WHAT WE ARE FACING ISN'T JUST A PROJECT OR A PERMIT AT THIS POINT. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO CALL WATER WARS HERE IN SOUTH TEXAS. AND IT'S EXACTLY HOW IT FEELS, BECAUSE THIS IS A FIGHT OVER SOMETHING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US NEEDS TO SURVIVE. UNDER TEXAS RULE OF CAPTURE, WATER CAN BE PUMPED, SOLD, AND TRANSPORTED EVEN IF IT DRAINS THEIR NEIGHBOR'S WELL. A LAW THAT WAS ONCE MEANT TO PROTECT THEIR FARMS AND RANCHES

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IN THIS AREA IS NOW BEING USED TO SUPPORT LARGE SCALE, FOR PROFIT WATER EXPLOITATION. AND THE PEOPLE WHO FEEL IT FIRST ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THIS VERY ROOM, THE ONE THE SMALL RANCH OWNERS, THE FAMILIES WITH SHALLOW WELLS, THE RURAL COMMUNITIES WHO BUILT THEIR LIVES HERE. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO TAKE ON ALL THE RISK WHILE SOMEONE ELSE TAKES ALL THE PROFITS. AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT LEGALITY. IT IS ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY.

BECAUSE ONCE THAT WATER IS GONE, IT'S GONE. NO CONTRACT, NO PERMIT AND NO PROMISE WILL BRING IT BACK FAST ENOUGH FOR THE PEOPLES WHOSE WELLS RUN DRY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY NOT BE THE ONES VOTING DIRECTLY ON THESE PERMITS, BUT YOU ARE THE ONES WE ELECTED TO STAND UP FOR US. SO I'M ASKING YOU, COMMISSIONERS COURT, TO TRULY THINK ABOUT WHO YOU REPRESENT.

DO YOU REPRESENT OUTSIDE INTERESTS AND FUTURE PIPELINES, OR DO YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THIS ROOM TODAY, THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT THEIR HOMES HERE, THE PEOPLE WHO RAISED THEIR FAMILIES HERE, THE PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED THAT THEIR LOCAL LEADERS WOULD PROTECT THE VERY RESOURCES THAT MAKE LIFE POSSIBLE HERE. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING UNREASONABLE. WE ARE ASKING FOR OUR FOR CAUTION. WE'RE ASKING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, AND WE ARE ASKING YOU TO USE YOUR VOICE, YOUR INFLUENCE, AND YOUR POSITION TO STAND WITH US AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE THIS IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US. WATER IS NOT JUST A RESOURCE, IT IS LIFE.

AND ONCE IT'S GONE, THERE IS NO UNDO BUTTON. PLEASE DO NOT LET FUTURE GENERATIONS LOOK BACK AND SAY WE STOOD BY WHILE IT WAS TAKEN FROM US. PLEASE STAND WITH US AND PROTECT OUR WATER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITIZENS TO BE HEARD? I'LL HAVE NO OTHER CARDS. OKAY,

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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM 1.4. REPORT FROM JUDGE COMMISSIONERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS, COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE. YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THROUGH A ROAD ON HEATHER. I THINK IT'S 95 C ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE COUNTY LINE. IT'S A HALFWAY THERE. AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT PROPERTY THERE WHO NEED ACCESS TO IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT. AND I'VE ASKED COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ FOR SOME ASSISTANCE ON THAT TOO, SINCE WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE BRIDGE. SO WE'RE WORKING ON BOTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GONZALEZ. YES. WE GOT MOWERS OUT IN THE MATHIS AREA ON COUNTY ROAD SEVEN, 98, COUNTY ROAD 803. WE GOT OUR TRUCK WORKING ON COUNTY ROAD 2567, COUNTY ROAD 2431, THE CENTENARIO. ALSO IN THE COUNTY ROAD 2249, THE SAINT PAUL AREA WE PLAYED FINISHED 1.4 MILES IN THE SAINT PAUL AREA. 502 WE ALSO DID SOME BLADE FINISH WORK OF 1.6 MILES, AND WE SPRAYED A STABILIZER PRIMER ON COUNTY ROAD 798. WE'RE ALSO. WE DID THE CHIP SEAL COAT ON COUNTY ROAD 1136. WE DID 1.4 MILES ON THAT. WE'RE DOING ROAD PROCESSING AND. COUNTY ROAD.

2667 COMPACTING THERE IN THE OLDHAM AREA, ALSO ON COUNTY ROAD 1839. WE'RE CLEANING ALL THE BLADES SHOULDERS, TAKING ALL THE THE GRASS AND DIRT OFF THE SIDES. WE GOT THE GRAVEL TRUCK GOING IN THE LAKESIDE AREA ON COUNTY ROAD 483 COUNTY ROAD 758 OLD SAND PIT AREA ON COUNTY ROAD 1718 AND COUNTY ROAD 1664. WE GOT SIGNED REPAIRS GOING IN THE MATHIS AREA ON COUNTY ROAD 441 DELINEATORS WERE INSTALLED IN COUNTY ROAD 1136. WE'RE ALSO GETTING ALL OUR EQUIPMENT READY FOR MOSQUITO SPRAYING, A LITTLE BIT OF WATER, THE RAIN THAT WE HAD. SO WE'VE GOT THOSE GUYS READY TO GO THIS WEEK. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SAY I AM NOT RUNNING FOR COUNTY JUDGE AND MY PREDECESSOR JUST WON'T WON'T LEAVE IT ALONE. AND THE COUNTY IS NOT BUILDING A BUILDING ON 188. SO JUST FYI ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. YARDLEY.

UNBELIEVABLE. MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. IT'S GOOD THAT WE KEEP THINGS INTERESTING. LET'S SEE. LAST WEEK WE GRADUATED FROM THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES LEADERSHIP 254 PROGRAM, WHICH WAS THE CULMINATION OF A DEMANDING AND REWARDING 14 MONTH LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE. WHILE THE PROGRAM REQUIRES A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT, IT IS ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCES AVAILABLE TO COUNTY OFFICIALS. LEADERSHIP 254 IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS REAL WORLD CHALLENGES WE FACE IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT, AND TACK PROVIDES SCHOLARSHIPS TO ENSURE THAT COST IS NOT A BARRIER FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OR OUR COUNTIES. GRADUATES FROM THE PROGRAM ARE OFTEN CALLED UPON TO SERVE IN KEY ROLES WITHIN PTAC, REFLECTING THE CALIBER OF LEADERSHIP THAT DEVELOPS. IF YOU ARE A COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIAL OR COUNTY AUDITOR, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPLY FOR THE 2027 2028 COHORT. THE APPLICATION WINDOW RUNS FROM JUNE 1ST TO JULY 6TH OF THIS YEAR, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED OR WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM, MYSELF AND I BELIEVE OUR DISTRICT CLERK, HEATHER MARKS WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU. SHE IS ALUMNI AS

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WELL, AND IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION, JUST LET ME KNOW. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. JUDGE. THANK YOU, MISS CASKEY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. JUDGE. WE'RE MOVING ON. COUNTY ROADS 1458 TO 22, 49, 35, 61. WE'RE FINISHING OUR MOVE FROM SITTING TO TAFT FOR THE MAIN OFFICE. WE ARE OPERATIONAL. WE HAVE PHONES, WE HAVE INTERNET, AND WE'RE LOCATED JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM JOHN DEERE AND NURSERY OVER THERE. SEVEN, EIGHT. YOU CAN'T MISS THE SIGNS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THEY'RE QUITE LARGE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL BE STARTING THIS WEEK, TAKING IT DOWN TO BASE GRADE AND BRINGING IT ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO CHIP SEAL. WE'LL ALSO BE CHIP SEALING THE OUR NEW PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE BARNS AND SO FORTH. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE JUST ASK PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE HAVING UNBOXING AND PUT ALL OUR FILES BACK TOGETHER. AGAIN, THE OFFICE IS TOTALLY OUT AND WE'RE HAPPY. IT TOOK A GOOD FRIDAY AND PART OF THE WEEKEND, BUT WE'RE WE GOT THERE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE THERE. GOOD DEAL.

DEPARTMENT HEADS. REMINDER ABOUT THE REMOTE CLEAN UP. OKAY, JUST A WEEKLY REMINDER ABOUT THE CLEANUP COMING UP HERE PRETTY SOON. MAY 14TH, 15TH AND 16TH OUT AT THE ARANSAS PASS AIRPORT OR INGLESIDE REGIONAL AIRPORT. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE EVENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'M KEEPING MY VOTE, MISS RIVERA. I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR PINK EVENT COMING UP. PINK EVENT, FRIEND TO FRIEND, THIS COMING THURSDAY. IT'S AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT WE DO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXTENSION SERVICE AND OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT. IT IS GOING TO BE REGISTRATION EXHIBIT STARTED 1130. THE PROGRAM IS AT 1210. WE TRY TO KEEP IT WITHIN THE HOUR SO THAT EMPLOYEES CAN GO HAVE LUNCH AND BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO THEIR WORK. IT IS A COUNTY EVENT, BUT IT IS UP TO THE ELECTED OFFICIAL LETTING THEM DO IT DURING COUNTY TIME. AND IF ANYONE IS ABLE TO GO, WE WOULD. IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT IS OPEN TO THE EMPLOYEES. AND I LEFT SOME INFORMATION IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD? OKAY. MY TURN. INSTEAD OF ME TAKING Y'ALL LISTENING TO ME TALK UP HERE THIS MORNING, OUR AGENDA ITEM SAYS REPORT ON COMMUNITY INTEREST. THIS MORNING I'LL HAVE MR. BILL LEE WITH US, WHO IS A FORMER RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF STAUNTON, WHO IS A GEOLOGIST, AND EVERYTHING THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ON THE EVANGELINE AQUIFER AND MIGHT WHAT HAPPEN TO IT IF WE START DRAWING WATER OUT OF IT AS MUCH AS THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI DOES? SO, BILL, IF YOU'LL GET TO THE MICROPHONE. HOWDY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? OKAY. I'M A PETROLEUM GEOLOGIST. I'M AN OIL AND GAS OPERATOR. I'M A HYDROLOGIST. I'M ALSO A BIOLOGIST, AND I'M ALSO A GEOCHEMIST. MY GEOCHEMISTRY WAS DONE ON THE CATAHOULA FORMATION. THIS. I HOPE THIS LASER WILL WORK, BUT. IT'S WORKING. BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT TO GO UP ON THAT SCREEN ANYWAY. IF YOU'LL LOOK IN THE MIDDLE, IT SHOWS THE SAN MARCUS ARCH RIGHT THERE. AND THAT'S THE DIVISION THAT WE HAVE. IT FORMED 60 MILLION YEARS AGO WHEN THE GULF WAS FORMING. AND SO IT SEPARATES US FROM THE HOUSTON EMBAYMENT, FROM THE RIO GRANDE EMBAYMENT. AND WHAT IT DOES DO IS TILT THE STRATA TO THE SOUTH. OKAY. GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT SAN MARCUS ARCH ACTUALLY BENDS. THIS IS THE THE MAPPING AND IT'LL SHOW HOW THAT BEND IS ACTUALLY BENDING THE AQUIFERS AND EVERYTHING COMING DOWN WITH THAT DARK RED ARROW RIGHT THERE.

YES. AND SO SAM, PAT COUNTY IS ANYWAY, YOU CAN SEE WHERE CORPUS CHRISTI IS AT AND ALL THAT. AND I'LL GO INTO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT MAP. OKAY. MIKE BENNETT, HE HAD BEEN MY COUNTY JUDGE UP IN GOLIAD. HE HAD BEEN ASKING ME FOR ALL THIS INFORMATION FOR MONTHS. AND MIKE BENNETT'S HISTORY WAS WHERE HE DRILLED OVER 100 WATER WELLS IN THE INDIGENOUS AREAS

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OF AFRICA. HE'S DONE OVER 100 WATER WELLS, PERU, CHILE. SO HE HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER.

SO ANYWAY, HE ASKED ME TO DO ALL THE WAY FROM FAYETTE COUNTY DOWN INTO COLORADO, IN WHARTON COUNTY, ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO KLEBERG. AND JIM WELLS COUNTY ASKED ME TO DO AN AQUIFER STUDY ON THAT. AND I DID IT. AND LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A CROSS SECTION. IT'S JUST LIKE YOU TAKE A CAKE AND YOU CUT IT IN HALF. AND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS THE EVANGELINE AQUIFER. WE'RE MAINLY MOST OF OUR WATER IS COMING FROM IN THE CHICO.

BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FORMATION OF THIS WITH THE CATAHOULA? I DID THE ONLY GEOCHEMICAL THESIS EVER DONE ON THAT STARTED 47 YEARS AGO ON IT. AND I'VE ONLY. I'VE DONE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES ON WATER RESERVOIRS. THE CATAHOULA IS VOLCANIC AND THE VOLCANIC PARTICLES IS WHAT BREAKS DOWN AND WHAT CONTAINS THE ARSENIC IN ALL OF THESE ABOVE AQUIFERS THAT ARE ABOVE IT, THE JASPER. THEY DON'T SHOW THIS. OAKVILLE, THE OAKVILLE OUTCROPS RIGHT THERE JUST NORTH OF GEORGE WEST, ON THE HIGHWAY WHERE THAT GHOST TOWN OF OAKVILLE IS AT. BUT ANYWAY, THE OAKVILLE IS IN THERE, THE JASPER AND THE BURKEVILLE, ALL OF THESE GOING UP INTO THE GOLIAD. SAM. THAT'S WHERE MOST OF Y'ALL HAVE GOT YOUR WATER WELLS AT. BUT THEN IT GOES ON UP INTO THE CHICO AQUIFER, AND I WILL SHOW YOU A MAP LATER THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH OF SAN PATRICIO COUNTY THAT THE CHICO. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW DEEP YOUR WATER WELL IS. IF YOU'RE DOWN BETWEEN 100FT AND 300FT, 400FT, YOU'RE PROBABLY IN THE CHICO. OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY, THIS IS A LARGER MAP AND IT'S SHOWING A BREAKDOWN OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FORMATIONS OVER HERE. BUT BUT I KNOW THIS IS CONFUSING, BUT LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS A BLOW UP OF THAT SAME MAP AND THE, THE, THE B RIGHT THERE. NO THAT THAT YEAH. YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT SPOT, BUT THE SAME COLOR. COME ON UP TO THE RIGHT. RIGHT HERE. YEAH.

RIGHT HERE. COME ON DOWN. COME ON DOWN. AND YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THAT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S LOWER REFUGIO COUNTY COMING INTO ARANSAS COUNTY AND ALL THAT ACROSS FROM THE NUECES BAY. ALL OF THAT IN SANPETE COUNTY IS THE CHICO AQUIFER. THIS IS THIS IS THE BEAUMONT FORMATION.

THERE'S DIFFERENT FORMATIONS INSIDE THE CHICO, THE LESSEE, THE WILLIS AND THE BEAUMONT.

AND THIS DARKER BROWN, THIS, OH, THAT YOU HAD ORIGINALLY HAD YOUR POINTER ON. ACTUALLY, IT GOES UP TOWARDS GOLIAD AND UP IN GOLIAD. WE'VE GOT EVEN 18 TIMES THE EPA ALLOWABLE FOR THE AMOUNT OF ARSENIC IN WATER WELLS UP THERE. SO JUST BECAUSE WE'RE SO FAR ABOVE THE CATAHOULA DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE AWAY FROM IT. THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THESE AQUIFERS CONTAIN THE VOLCANIC WEATHERING AND AND THE CHEMICAL BREAKDOWN, WHICH WHICH CONTAINS THE ARSENIC. OKAY. NEXT ONE. OKAY. PLAY THIS, PLAY THIS. Y'ALL LISTEN, THIS, THIS IS THIS IS ESTEBAN RAMOS, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY. LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS. DOES THE TURN IT UP. TURN THE VOLUME UP AT ANY POINT IN TIME. COME BACK. UP. I CAN SAY PETROL, RIGHT. DOES THE T C, Q IN THE FUTURE AT ANY POINT IN TIME COME BACK AND SAY, I'M GOING TO LIMIT YOU ON THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT YOU CAN PUMP FROM THAT. WELL, NO. SO WHAT THEY WOULD LIMIT TO YOU WOULD ADD MAYBE SOME SPECIAL CONDITIONS WITHIN THE APPLICATION PERIOD THAT WOULD CHANGE THE CARRIAGE LOSSES OF THAT WATER BEING DISCHARGED INTO THE WATER BODY. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER WHERE WE'RE DISCHARGING OR EXCUSE ME, WHERE WE HAVE OUR WELLS IS IN A COUNTY WITHOUT A GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. SO THERE ISN'T ANY LIMITATIONS ON THE PRODUCTION OF THOSE WELLS LIKE YOU'RE DESCRIBING. OKAY. THAT'S UNLIKE TRYING TO GET THIS TO Y'ALL. THEY CAN PUMP AS MUCH AS THEY WANT BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A GROUNDWATER DISTRICT IN PLACE. THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW TRYING TO DEVELOP THE GROUNDWATER DISTRICT DOWN THERE, THEY HAVE HAD OVER TEN YEARS. THEY'VE KNOWN ABOUT THE

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RESTRICTIONS ON THE WATER AT LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. THEY HAVE TRIED TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEY'VE HAD TEN YEARS TO ORGANIZE THIS, AND THEY'RE A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT THAT PROBLEM DOWN THERE, BECAUSE IF THEY'D HAVE BEEN IN PLACE, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL THEM HOW MUCH THEY COULD PUMP AND IF THEY COULD DO IT. AND NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE IT AND RUN IT THEMSELVES. LET'S GO. OKAY, LET'S THIS IS THE WELL LOG ON EASTERN WELL FIELD NUMBER THREE GO UP SLOW. SCROLL SLOWLY. GO BACK DOWN. SEE ALL THE RED SPOTS? THEY STARTED SHOOTING EVERY SCREEN, EVERY SAND IN THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE. GO ON UP. TWO MORE. YEAH, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. NOW THIS ONE, THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE TWO WELLS THAT WERE DRILLED ON THE WELLER LAND. OKAY.

SCROLL SLOWLY SO THEY CAN SEE THIS AND YOU'LL START SEEING ONE, 23456789 1011 1213141516.

THEY SHOT EVERY WATER, SAND. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOT TO BE DOING TO US ON EVERY ONE OF THESE. I'VE GOT A ANOTHER SLIDE SHOWING OF ALL THE WATER WELLS. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY.

THIS IS NUMBER TWO THAT THEY DRILLED SLOWLY 123456789 TEN 1111 SHOT OKAY NOW. WHEN YOU DO THIS AND THIS HAS BEEN THEIR PLAN ALL ALONG UP AT THE TOP, IT SAYS 2014. OKAY. YOU LOOK AT IT OVER HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, IT SAYS CHICO AQUIFER. HERE IT SAYS THE EVANGELINE AQUIFER. AND THOSE ARE PERFORATIONS ALL ALONG. AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE SHOWS THE CIRCULATION OF THE WATER, HOW IT'S GOING TO COME FROM THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM COMING OUT.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOT TO DO TO US. NEXT ONE PLEASE. NOW YOU MISSED THE VORTEX. GO BACK UP.

YEAH, THERE. OKAY. OKAY. NEXT ONE. THIS CREATES A VORTEX JUST LIKE A. BLENDER IN YOUR HOUSE.

AND SO I TOLD THEM AT THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD OVER HERE IN SAN PAT, THAT 500FT, AFTER ABOUT 500FT, FEET, YOU COULD START SEEING THE CONDUCTIVITY AND THE RESISTIVITY ON THE ELECTRIC LOGS OF THE OIL AND GAS LOGS, HOW THE SALINITY IS INCREASING. AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS, IS YOU'RE GOING TO BRING UP THE SALT WATER FROM THE BOTTOM AND MIX IT WITH THE FRESH WATER UP HERE. AND AFTER THAT, THERE IS NO ABLE FOR IT TO, TO SEPARATE AGAIN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO OUR WATER. EVERY BIT OF THIS WATER THAT IS GOING TO BE PRODUCED. IF THEY GET THIS EVANGELINE PROSPECT GOING, IT'S GOT A TOTALLY CHANGE. THE SALINITY OF OUR WATER. OKAY, THIS IS THE 25 WELLS HERE THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED, STARTING OVER HERE AROUND SAINT PAUL, COMING ALL THE WAY AROUND. AND EVERY ONE OF THESE, YOU COUNT THEM 25 WELLS. IT'S GOING TO DESTROY EVERY BIT OF THE AQUIFER HERE. BUT WHEN THEY START PULLING DOWN, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. BURKE'S HOLLOW. THIS IS THE URANIUM MINE. SEE IT UP THERE? THE LITTLE RED DOT JUST RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE RIVER. OKAY. WHEN THEY START, THAT IS IN SUIT MINING. AND IT'S WHERE YOU HAVE A CHECKERBOARD. AND EVERY CHECKERBOARD, EVERY ACRE, ACRE AND A HALF, THEY DRILL A WATER WELL, AND THEY'RE ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT MAYBE FROM MAYBE THE SURFACE DOWN TO ABOUT MAYBE 500FT. SO THAT'S THE DRINKING WATER WE'RE CONCERNED WITH HERE. THE FRESH WATER, THEY DRILL A WATER WELL EVERY ACRE AND A HALF ALL THE WAY AROUND ON THE CHECKERBOARD. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. AND THEY INJECT THEIR CHEMICALS INTO THERE. AND THEIR RECOVERY WELL IS IN THE VERY CENTER. AND THEY SUCK IT OUT LIKE THIS, BUT THEY DON'T REMOVE ALL THE ALL OF THE CHEMICALS OUT OF THERE. AND THEN ON. PLUS WITH THAT, THEY'VE MOBILIZED THE ARSENIC MOLECULE. THEY THE ARSENIC IS JUST SITTING THERE DORMANT. AND I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THE TO THE CHARGES ON THE ARSENIC LATER.

BUT ANYWAY, THE ARSENIC HAS A PLUS FIVE AND A PLUS SIX AND A PLUS THREE, AND IT UNITES WITH THE WATER MOLECULE. AND ONCE THOSE TWO ARE TOGETHER, THEY DON'T BREAK APART AND THEY START CARRYING. AND. THE REMOVAL OF THE WATER WILL BRING DOWN THE URANIUM, AND IT'LL

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BRING DOWN THE ARSENIC. AND AND EVEN WITH THEM PRODUCING THE 25 WELLS, IT'S GOT TO EXCITE THE ARSENIC LEVEL. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY KREBS, IF Y'ALL CAN GET TOGETHER AND PASS AN AMENDMENT NOT TO HAVE ANY URANIUM MINING AND SAN PAT COUNTY, BECAUSE THERE IS A BELT THAT COMES ON DOWN, IT COMES DOWN THROUGH GOLIAD, COMES DOWN THROUGH BLANCO COMES ON DOWN, AND PROBABLY RIGHT THERE AT LAKE MATHIS. I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT SPOT FOR THESE PEOPLE. BUT ONCE THEY GOT THE LEASE, THE URANIUM LEASE, THEY'RE ABLE TO MINE IT. SO PASS SOMETHING TO WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY URANIUM MINING IN SANPETE COUNTY. OKAY. NEXT ONE. OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE. WE'VE GOT THE STANDING LAWSUIT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET STANDING TOMORROW. PRAISE JESUS. PRAISE GOD WE GET IT. THE BACKUP THAT WE HAVE. WE GOT A GREAT GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT HERE IN SANPETE COUNTY. WE REALLY DO.

AND THEY HAVE THE POWER TO GRANT EXPORT AND NOT GRANT EXPORT. AND THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY GOLIAD COUNTY WHEN THE WELLER FAMILY TRIED TO SELL THEIR WATER TO SAN ANTONIO IN 2001. AND WE CAME UP WITH NOT TO GRANT EXPORT. SO WE HAVE GOT PRECEDENCE ON THIS ISSUE.

SO IF SAMPAT COUNTY CONSERVATION DISTRICT WILL JUST STAND WITH THAT AND SAY NO EXPORT, THAT'S ANOTHER ROADBLOCK FOR THEM NOT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE WATER OUT OF SANPETE COUNTY. NEXT ONE PLEASE. OKAY. SCROLL UP. OKAY. YOU CAN SEE EVERY BIT OF THAT ARSENIC RIGHT THERE. IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO MATAGORDA BAY, SAN ANTONIO BAY, AND COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN. AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE CATAHOULA. IT'S IT'S ONLY OCCURS OUT OF VOLCANIC IGNEOUS ROCKS. MY WHOLE SAMPLING. I DID OVER A THOUSAND SAMPLES BACK WHEN I WAS DOING MY THESIS. IT'S THE ONLY GEOCHEMICAL THESIS DONE. AND I WAS TAKING SAMPLES ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THROUGH HERE. AND I NOTICED SUCH A HIGH LEVEL OF CONCENTRATION, AND I KNEW I WAS GETTING NEAR THE VOLCANIC SOURCE ON THIS. ANYWAY, THE REASON WHY YOU'VE GOT IT ALL THE WAY UP INTO SAN ANTONIO BAY UP IN THERE IS BECAUSE LONGSHORE AND NEARSHORE CURRENT.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT ON THE BEACH AND YOU GET OUT IN THE WATER AND YOU NOTICE THAT YOU'VE DRIFTED UP, UP THE COAST, THAT'S THE NEARSHORE CURRENT. AND THAT'S WHAT HAS CARRIED SOME OF THIS UP AFTER IT COME OUT OF THE NUECES RIVER UP INTO THE NEXT BAY UP. OKAY. NEXT ONE PLEASE. ARSENIC. IT'S THE KING OF POISONS. HEART, LUNG, KIDNEY, NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGES, MELANOMA.

YOU CAN GET EVERY KIND OF CANCER OFF OF THIS ARSENIC. THE EPA ALLOWABLE IS TEN PARTS PER BILLION. WHAT IS TEN PARTS PER BILLION? WELL, THE NEXT ONE, IF YOU TAKE ONE GRAIN OF TABLE SALT AND TAKE ONE SIXTH OF THAT, THAT'S ENOUGH TO KILL YOU OR MAKE YOU HAVE CANCER, EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL. AND SO THIS DOESN'T COME OUT AS A PARTICLE IN YOUR WATER. IT COMES OUT IN YOUR WATER. SO IF Y'ALL DRINK IT, Y'ALL DON'T KNOW IT. AND WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP TO WINKELMAN, THE THE WATER MANAGER DOWN IN CORPUS AND THE GENERAL MANAGER, ZANONI, I GAVE HIM INFORMATION PAPERS ON IT AND I TRIED TO SPEAK ABOUT IT. THEY TOLD ME TO SIT DOWN, BUT THEIR IDEA IS, IS WITH IT COMING OUT OF THE EASTERN WESTERN, AND NOW THE FIELD, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS JUST DISSOLVE DOWN THESE TRILLIONS OF PARTICLES OF ARSENIC WITH THE MARY ROADS PIPELINE. OKAY, SO YOU'LL STILL HAVE THOSE PARTICLES FLOATING AROUND AND IT CAN STILL GET INTO YOUR WATER SYSTEM. SO THAT'S NOT REAL SMART. BUT THEY WERE TOLD ABOUT THIS. AND YOU'VE GOT ROBSTOWN, WHO HAS NOW GONE FOR FIVE MONTHS OVER THE EPA ALLOWABLE, AND THEY'RE

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VERY MUCH AWARE OF IT. AND THEN WHEN I STARTED TELLING THEM, I SAID, WELL, YOU ALL NEED TO START TESTING YOUR WATER WELLS. LIKE EVERY DAY HE GOES, OH, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO ONLY TEST EVERY FOUR MONTHS. I SAID, FOUR MONTHS. OKAY. I SAID, ARE THEY ASTM CERTIFIED? NO. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING THOUGH. WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE IN EVEN IN THE REFINERY, YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED. AND WE TAKE TESTING LIKE EVERY 12 HOURS. SO WOULDN'T IT BE SMART TO BE DOING THIS MORE OFTEN? LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY, THIS IS A 24 AND I'M SURE IT'S MORE, BUT BASICALLY WITH SAM, PAT AND GULF COAST VENTURES WERE SOMEWHERE AROUND 24 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY THAT WE'RE USING OVER HERE. AND I'VE GOT A SOLUTION TO ALL OF THIS.

BUT THE MAIN THING IS WE NEED TO STOP THIS SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE GOT WITH CORPUS CHRISTI. WE'RE THE STEPCHILD, OKAY? AND WE HAVE TO TAKE WHATEVER THEY DO. AND THAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SAID, IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE EVANGELIST, WELL, WE'LL JUST CUT OFF YOUR WATER. YEAH. NEXT ONE. OKAY. PURE ONYX I MET WITH BACK IN. 25, 23 YEARS AGO, A WONDERFUL CHRISTIAN MAN UP IN REFUGIO. HE AND I, TOGETHER, WE BOTH CAME UP. I CAME UP WITH THE SCIENTIFIC PART OF IT DOING A DESALINIZATION. WE BUILT THE FIRST ONE UP IN REFUGIO, AND I TOOK IT FIRST DOWN TO MARK SCOTT, WHO'S STILL ON THE WATER BOARD IN CORPUS CHRISTI. AND I'VE APPROACHED HIM AND I SAID, LOOK, Y'ALL NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS. THIS IS THE FUTURE.

Y'ALL GOTTA BE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD HERE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? Y'ALL GOT A LOT OF INDUSTRY COMING IN HERE. AND HE SAID, NOW WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF WATER. WE DON'T WE DON'T NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. OKAY. WELL, REVERSE OSMOSIS IS EVEN BETTER THAN DESAL. REVERSE OSMOSIS ACTUALLY REMOVES EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE ARSENIC. AND THIS IS WHERE IF THE SAN PATRICIO MUNICIPAL COUNTY WATER DISTRICT, THEY HAVE THIS AREA OVER THERE AROUND INGLESIDE. AND IF THEY WILL. FIRST, THE FUNDING THAT BENNETT, THE COUNTY JUDGE, HE'S GOING TO AUSTIN AND HE'S ASKING ABBOTT FOR EMERGENCY ORDER TO COVER THE COST OF US TO TRY AND DO THESE REVERSE OSMOSIS, GET TOTALLY INDEPENDENT, AND QUIT OUR DRAWING DOWN ON THE EVANGELINE. AND IF WE CAN TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF THE EVANGELINE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WE CAN DO IT WITH THIS REVERSE OSMOSIS AND WITH THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IS AT OVER THERE WITH SANPETE COUNTY. THEY'RE LOCATED RIGHT NEAR THE LA QUINTA CHANNEL, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO DRILL THE WATER WELL FOR THIS DOWN INTO THE FRIO. YOU HAVE TO GET PAST THE CATAHOULA, DOWN INTO THE FRIO, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T CONTAIN ANY ARSENIC. AND ANYBODY THAT ELSE IS WITH THIS.

ALL THESE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE DRILLING THESE NEW WATER WELLS AND EVERYTHING, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT. AND I WOULD ASK THE WATER BOARD HERE IN SAN PAT COUNTY TO ONLY GIVE THEM PERMITS DOWN INTO THE FRIO, GET THE PRESSURE OFF OF THE EVANGELINE AND THE CHICO. AND WHY IS BECAUSE ALL OF THESE SHALLOW WATER WELLS, RESIDENTIAL RANCHERS. WATER WELLS DEPEND UPON THE VERY TOP OF THAT WATER IN THE CHICO. AND IT'S JUST LIKE A GLASS OF WATER WITH A STRAW. WHEN YOU START PULLING DOWN ON THE STRAW, IT PULLS DOWN FROM THE VERY TOP.

SO IT'S MOST IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE ALL THE PRESSURE WE CAN OFF THE EVANGELINE, ESPECIALLY IF THIS BEGINS OVER HERE WITH THE WELDERS, THE PEOPLE, EVEN AS FAR AS INGLESIDE, ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS. SO THIS IS WHERE IF WE CAN DEVELOP THIS REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM OVER IN IN THE WATER MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEM, AND THEN ALL OF THE RESIDUE THAT COMES OUT OF THIS WILL GO INTO A BARGE ON THE LA QUINTA CHANNEL, AND IT CAN GO OUT INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO AND

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DUMP IT. THERE WAS PLANS WHEN I TALKED WITH BRYAN ABOUT THIS, THAT HE WAS WANTING TO DISCHARGE IT RIGHT OUT INTO THE BAY. AND I SAID, NO, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECOLOGY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SHRIMP, MINNOWS, SMALL CRUSTACEANS, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS. AND I FISHED THAT BAY AS A CHILD. WE HAD A HOUSE AT INGLESIDE ON THE BAY. IT GOT DESTROYED BY HURRICANE CELIA. I FISHED THAT BAY WAY TOO MUCH TO KNOW THAT THE CIRCULATION IN THAT BAY IS VERY RESTRICTED. SO THAT'S WHERE ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THIS REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO A BARGE AND TRUCKED OUT TO THE GULF AND DUMPED THIS COMPANY. PICNICS. I MET WITH 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT OTHER COMPANIES.

THEIR FILTER FILTRATION SYSTEM IS MADE UP OF A CERAMIC MEMBRANE. ALL THESE OTHERS ARE NOT, AND IT'S THE MAINTENANCE ON THE SYSTEM. IT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE. SO THEY HAVE GUARANTEED THAT THEIR MEMBRANE WILL LAST 30 YEARS. AND YOU GOTTA BE LOOKING AT IT JUST RIGHT NOW, NOT AT THIS COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE GET SOMETHING GOING. WE GOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS, EVERY BIT OF THIS. AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE WATER FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS. SO WE'VE GOT TO CONVINCE EVERYBODY, EVEN LAKE MATHIS, THEY DRILLED A NEW WATER WELL DOWN TO, I THINK IT WAS 800FT. WELL, I'M VERY CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THEY TD INTO. AND I WOULD SUGGEST HIGHLY THAT ONE OF THESE SMALL CONTAINERS RIGHT HERE, IT CAN PRODUCE A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY. THEY CAN BREAK IT DOWN TO WHERE EVEN SOMEBODY LIKE THE CITY OF GOLIAD ONLY HAS 2000 PEOPLE, AND THEY CAN SHRINK IT DOWN SO IT WILL FIT THE POPULATION. BUT THIS RIGHT HERE. A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY. AND THEY ALSO HAVE ANOTHER TYPE THAT'LL DO FLUENT WATER AT 800 000 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY. IF WE CAN GET PURE ONYX AND THEY CAN DO EVEN A CONTAINER SHIP OUT IN THE GULF THAT CAN PRODUCE OVER 100 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY AND SEND THE WATER IN, AND THEY'LL BE TAKING THE WATER OUT OF THE GULF AND DEPOSITING THE SALINE AND STUFF OUT INTO THE GULF.

THAT'S THE SMARTEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS. INSTEAD OF DOING AN INNER HARBOR DEAL LIKE THE WAY CORPUS CHRISTI IS DOING AND DUMPING AND TAKING THE STUFF STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BAY AND DUMPING IT INTO THE BAY, THAT'S STUPIDITY. DO IT THE SMART WAY. NEXT ONE PLEASE. THIS IS INSIDE THE CONTAINER. WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS. AND THIS IS WHAT MIKE BENNETT IS TRYING TO PROMOTE US GOING TO A REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM. THE WHOLE THING IS, IS TO TAKE THE PRESSURE THAT WE'RE ALREADY DRAINING OFF OF THE AQUIFER OF THE GOLIAD SAND, THE EVANGELINE AND THE AQUIFER, AND BE ABLE TO GIVE A RELIEF TO THE COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE GOT COUNTY WATER WELLS THAT ARE DEPENDENT SO MUCH ON THIS WATER. THEY DON'T HAVE A MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEM THEY CAN GO TO OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT IT'LL GIVE A RELIEF TO THOSE PEOPLE AND MAKE THEIR WATER SYSTEM STILL BE THERE FOR THE NEXT 5060. AND IT TAKES OVER ANOTHER THING. ZAMBONI MADE A STATEMENT SAYING THAT THE WATER THAT IS IN THE EVANGELINE AQUIFER IS OVER A BILLION YEARS OLD, AND I'VE STUDIED THE EARTH SINCE 4.3 BILLION YEARS AGO. THE AQUIFER OF THE EVANGELINE AQUIFER IS FROM 23 TO 2 MILLION YEARS OLD.

SO HOW CAN YOU HAVE A BILLION YEAR OLD WATER IN THAT AQUIFER? THE MAN DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I CAN'T STAND STUPIDITY. OKAY? THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND GIVING US. NO. THAT'S ALRIGHT, I CAN UNDERSTAND. THIS IS THIS IS DEAR TO YOUR HEART. SO. THIS IS DEAR TO YOU. AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING REAL HARD AT IT. SO I THINK IT WAS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR A LOT OF THAT IS TO REALLY WHAT WE'RE FACING. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TRULY HEAR FROM THE MEDIA AS TO WHAT WE'RE FACING HERE WITH OUR WATER SUPPLY IN THIS COUNTY. WHEN WE

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RUN OUT OF WATER, IT'S TOO LATE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE ON THIS. RIGHT, EXACTLY. AND I THINK THIS REVERSE OSMOSIS WOULD THE MOST EXCELLENT WAY FOR US TO HAVE SEPARATION FROM CORPUS CHRISTI. WE NEED TO SEVER IT. AND IT'S JUST LIKE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS, OH, WE'LL JUST CUT YOUR WATER OFF. YOU JUST DON'T LET US HAVE THE ADVANTAGE. YEAH. WHAT HE TOLD ME. OKAY. MOVING ON. THANK YOU AGAIN, BILL, FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE. YEAH. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. APPROVAL OF OUR APRIL

[1. Approval of minutes]

20TH MEETING. THE MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES SECOND MOTION BY THE CORKY. SECONDED BY YARDLEY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED FROM APRIL 20TH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE

[a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.]

MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. 2.2 A EXAMINATION CONSIDERATION.

ACTION OF ALL CLAIMS AGAINST PATRICIA COUNTY. MOVE TO PAY THE BILLS. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLISPIE. SECOND BY SIKORSKY TO PAY THE BILLS. ANY BILLS PRESENTED THIS MORNING.

HAVE A QUESTION ON HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. WE DO HAVE TWO THIS MORNING

[b. Consideration and action on Budget Line Items, Transfers, and Amendments.]

WHEREVER I PUT THEM HERE. FIRST ONE IS OUT OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM FURNITURE, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT INTO CONFERENCE ASSOCIATION DUES BUILDING REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, PRINTING, MISCELLANEOUS SERVICE AND CHARGES, GENERAL SUPPLIES AND NCO EQUIPMENT. SECOND ONE IS OUT OF COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL INTO EQUIPMENT REPAIR, MAINTENANCE, REPAIR PARTS, NCO, FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, OTHER SUPPLIES AND FURNITURE, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. MOVE TO APPROVE BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. THE THIRD ONE IS THE THIRD ONE. THERE'S A THIRD ONE.

JUDGE. ALL RIGHT. I PULL MY MOTION. SECOND ALL WE HAD TWO. SO I DIDN'T SAY TWO. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THE THIRD ONE IS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM WASTE DISPOSAL INTO VEHICLE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. NOW. NOW I MOVE TO APPROVE BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE. SECONDED BY YARDLEY. THE BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION

[c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ]

CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. 2.2 C IS CONSIDERATION. NATIONAL BANK RECONCILIATION.

TREASURER'S REPORT. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. THE ONLY FUNDING APPROVAL REQUEST I HAVE IS THE HEALTH TRANSFER OF $37,500. MOVE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY, I GOT A GOT A QUESTION? REAL QUESTION BEFORE US FOR APPROVAL. YES, SIR. ON THE REPORT THAT WE GOT, WE HAVE FROM $237 WORTH OF BANK CHARGES. YES. THAT'S OUR MONTHLY CHARGES THAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGED THAT OUR BANK FEES, CENTAVO CHARGES FOR CHASE BANK FOR THEIR PROCESSING. SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THOSE CONTINUOUSLY? YES, EVERY MONTH WE HAVE THEM. I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE TREASURER'S REPORT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. 2.3

[3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:]

CONSENT AGENDA. WE DO HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE ITEMS THIS MORNING ON FOUR ITEMS ON CONSENT AGENDA.

IS ANY COMMISSIONER NEED EITHER ONE OF THOSE PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. 2.3 A IS ACCEPTING RECORDED COUNTY CLERK'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2026. 2.3 B CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST BY GARY DAVIS, AIRPORT MANAGER FOR ASSIGNMENT OF HANGAR LEASE BETWEEN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, THE LESSOR AND JOHN CARLSON LEE C FOR HANGAR SH16 AT THE AIRPORT. ALFRED C, BUBBA THOMAS FIELD AND ALSO UNDER 2.3 B WE HAVE ANOTHER HANGAR LEASE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REQUEST BY GARY DAVIS, AIRPORT MANAGER FOR RENEWAL OF LEASE HANGAR LEASE BETWEEN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, THE LESSOR AND RUSSELL RICHARD RUSSELL, D, BAR AND R FLIGHT SERVICE. THE LEASE FOR HANGAR SH5. RICHARD BUTLER DBA WING OVER FLIGHT LEE C FOR HANGAR SH4 AT THE AIRPORT.

ALFRED C, BUBBA THOMASVILLE AND RICHARD BUTLER DDBA WING OVER FLIGHT. LEE C FOR HANGAR C TWO

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AT THE INGLESIDE REGIONAL AIRPORT. MCKENNA PORTERFIELD 2.3 C IS ACCEPTING RECORD RENEWAL OF AGREEMENT FOR A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH CENSUS UNIFORM RENTALS PRECINCT ONE.

IT WAS APPROVED ON APRIL 7TH BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR RENEWAL. HOWEVER, NEEDED CORRECTIONS ON THE CONTRACT OF THE TERMS. MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2.3 A THROUGH C SECOND OKAY MOTION BY GILLESPIE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. YEAH. JUDGE. IT TOOK ABOUT SIX SEVEN MONTHS ON THAT ON THAT CONTRACT. I WANT TO SAY I WANT TO THANK CHRIS FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO IT. JUST GETTING HIM TO CHANGE FROM A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT DOWN TO A THREE, AS WE KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, FOUR YEAR TERMS, AND TO LEAVE SOMEBODY ELSE OUT THERE HOLDING A CONTRACT THAT YOU DIDN'T NEGOTIATE IS NOT REALLY FAIR. OKAY. GOING INTO INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS. 2.4 A

[a. Consideration and action on request by David Krebs, County Judge, San Patricio County on Joint Resolution of Support for Regional Coordination and Sustainable Water Management in Response to the South Texas Water Supply Crisis.]

CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON REQUEST BY DAVID KREBS, COUNTY JUDGE, CENTERS COUNTY ON A JOINT RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR REGIONAL COORDINATION AND SUSTAINABILITY, WATER MANAGEMENT AND RESPONSE TO THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER SUPPLY CRISIS. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE 2.4 A SECOND. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT CAME OUT OF OUR MONDAY MEETING THAT WE HAD UP AT GOLIAD. SO THIS IS A RESPONSE TO THAT, AND WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO FURTHER. I AM HAPPY TO SEE WE'RE TAKING A COORDINATED COLLABORATION APPROACH, SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARD IT. OKAY. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL GET THIS SIGNED AND I WILL SEND IT UP TO JUDGE BENNETT AND GOLIAD COUNTY. AND FROM THERE WE'LL SEND IT TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN AUSTIN. OKAY. 2.4 B CONSIDERATION ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM THE

[b. Consideration and Action on request from the Sheriff's Office to renew and extend the existing contract with Lumenserve for radio tower light maintenance at the Sinton Tower Site, extending the contract from 3 years to 5 years, yearly payment of $5,546.88.]

SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO RENEW AND EXTEND THE EXISTING CONTRACT FOR WOMEN SERVE FOR RADIO TOWER LIGHT MAINTENANCE AT THE CENTRAL TOWER SITE, EXTENDING THE CONTRACT FROM THREE YEARS TO FIVE YEARS AT A YEARLY PAYMENT OF $5,546.88. MOVE TO APPROVE 2.4 B SECOND. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GET ON THE PAGE. GILLESPIE. SECONDED BY. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THE MOTION. I WILL SAY I'M SURPRISED THAT THE SHERIFF DOESN'T CLIMB TO THE TOP OF THIS TOWER TO CHANGE THOSE THEY USED TO. THEY USED TO. JOHNNY, JOHNNY. JOHNNY BENAVIDES WAS YOUR CLIMBER. MUCH WISER DECISION TO PAY. SOMEBODY UNFORTUNATELY GOT OLDER. OKAY.

YEAH. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE GOT 2.4 C DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A

[c. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grant Manager, to apply and approve a Resolution for Sheriff Oscar Rivera's Motor Vehicle Crime Prevention Authority MVCPA FY27 SB 224 Catalytic Converter Grant Application. ]

REQUEST BY MELANIE COOPER, GRANT MANAGER, TO APPLY AND APPROVE A RESOLUTION FOR SHERIFF OSCAR RIVERA'S MOTOR VEHICLE CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY. MVCPA FISCAL YEAR 27 SB 224 CATALYTIC CONVERTER GRANT APPLICATION. AND EXACTLY WHAT IS THIS FOR AS FAR AS.

YEAH, THIS IS JUST BASICALLY, I KNOW, I KNOW, I WANT TO, I WANT TO, I WANT TO LISTEN. EVERY YEAR WE ASK FOR THE EXPLANATION BECAUSE I KNOW IT DOESN'T MATCH CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. NO, THIS IS FOR THE FLOCK CAMERAS, WHERE THEY DO RECOVER STOLEN VEHICLES THAT RUN THROUGH THE COUNTY, WHICH DOES COUNT TO THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. THE MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS TO MISS COOPER? NO HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

[d. Consideration and action on request from Commissioner Ruben Gonzales, Pct 3 to enter into an Interlocal Agreement with City of Mathis for road work.]

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. 2.4 D CONSIDERATION ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM COMMISSIONER RUBEN GONZALEZ, PRECINCT THREE, TO ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF MATHIS FOR ROAD WORK. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY GONZALEZ. ANY QUESTIONS? I ASSUME, MR. DORSEY, YOU'RE GOOD WITH THIS? YES. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. 2.4 E. DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION.

[e. Discussion, consideration and action on request by Juvenile Detention to approve Contracts and Agreements of Detention of Juvenile Offenders with the following entities: 1. Cameron County 2. Upton Reagan County]

ACTION. REQUEST FROM JUVENILE DETENTION TO APPROVE CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS OF DETENTION OF JUVENILE OFFENDERS WITH THE FOLLOWING ENTITIES. CAMERON COUNTY AND UPS AND REAGAN COUNTY MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY SECONDED BY CHARLIE. ANY QUESTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

[f. Consideration and action on request by Marcy Thormaehlen, SPC Tax Assessor/Collector to enter into San Patricio County Tax Assessor-Collector Agreement for the Collection of Taxes between San Patricio County Assessor/Collector, San Patricio County and Sinton Ranch Municipal Utility District.]

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OKAY. 2.4 F CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MARCY VERMILION, SAN PATRICIO, COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR TO ENTER INTO THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR AGREEMENT WITH THE COLLECTION OF TAXES BETWEEN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY COLLECTOR'S OFFICE AND THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY AND THE STAUNTON RANCH MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECOND BY GONZALES. ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? OKAY. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION

[g. Discussion, consideration, and Action on a request from the IT Department for the Auditors to issue an RFP for a County-wide Copier Lease Program.]

CARRIES. 2.4 G. DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION. ACTION REQUEST FROM THE IT DEPARTMENT FOR THE AUDITORS TO ISSUE AN RFP FOR A COUNTY WIDE COPIER LEASE PROGRAM. MOVE TO APPROVE. GOT A MOTION? SECOND BY ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS. TIME. HAPPY TO SEE THIS AS WELL. LIKE IT'S BEEN LIKE THREE YEARS AGO SINCE WE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, I THINK FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THAT EVEN AND STUFF. SO THIS HOPEFULLY WE GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF AND WE'RE ALL UNDER THE SAME LEASE PROGRAM AND GET BETTER. I'M SURE WE CAN BELIEVE IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO GET THIS DONE. I GOT A MOTION. AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. NO PRESSURE, NO PRESSURE. NO QUESTION. OKAY. OKAY. CONCLUDES

[3. PERSONNEL-Employment and current employee status changes in accordance with the current personnel policies, County Budget, and State law with notification of such changes to the payroll division of the Treasurer's office.]

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PER MONTH PHONE ALLOWANCE EFFECTIVE MAY 1ST, 2026. 3.1 K REBECCA ORCHARD, EMPLOYMENT DEPUTY CLERK ONE DISTRICT CLERK, FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 103. STEP ONE AT $2,848.50 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE MAY 1ST, 2026. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE TO APPROVE 3.1 A THROUGH G AND 3.1 I THROUGH K AS AS MODIFIED A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THEM? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY. PERSONNEL AGENDA ITEMS ARE APPROVED. OKAY. WE GOT UNDER 3.2. IS OUR EMPLOYEE STATUS CHANGES. CYNTHIA LOPEZ. EXCUSE ME. CYNTHIA LENTZ, RESIGNATION COURT REPORTER, DISTRICT CLERK, FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT AT $10,974.66 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE APRIL 24TH OF 2026. MOVE TO APPROVE 3.2 A SECOND A MOTION SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. ITEM FOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE DO NOT HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION SCHEDULED FOR THIS THIS MORNING. MOVE TO ADJOURN SECOND. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE SECONDED BY SIKORSKY TO ADJOURN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

1. CALL TO ORDER, PLEDGES AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT

2. DELIBERATE AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS:

2. Financial Agenda:

4. Individual Action Agenda:

Apr 27, 2026 Commissioners Court

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2. DELIBERATE AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS:

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