Feb 23, 2026 Commissioners Court

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COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THIS MONDAY MORNING. WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGES THEN WE'LL GET STARTED.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. OH, THIS OFF. OKAY. WELCOME AGAIN THIS MORNING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. OUR LAST MEETING FOR

[3. Citizens to be heard]

I DO HAVE ONE CARD THIS MORNING, MISTER STORY, IF YOU WILL COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ASK FOR YOUR ADDRESS ON THE CARD. BUT I DON'T WANT ADDRESSES ANYMORE.

JUST TAKE THE PRECINCT THAT YOU'RE IN AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES. COPY. SO GOOD AFTERNOON ALL. MY NAME IS BRAD STORE. I LIVE IN PORTLAND PRECINCT TWO. BACK IN DECEMBER, I STARTED ASKING SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELECTION. SIGNS ARE STARTING TO COME UP. RIGHT. SO I ASKED A NEIGHBOR OF MINE ABOUT THE ELECTION AND YOU KNOW WHO'S WHO AND WHAT'S WHAT. HE ENCOURAGED ME TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THIS ONE BECAUSE HE SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION BEING PUT OUT, AND, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD DO MY OWN RESEARCH. SO JANUARY 18TH, I WHILE TRAVELING OVERSEAS, I DECIDED TO DO SOME RESEARCH. I HAD A LONG FLIGHT OVER TO THE UK. FROM HERE I CAME ACROSS SAN PATRICIO COUNTY DOSAGE PAGE AND BEGIN TO READ THROUGH IT CAREFULLY. IN TODAY'S DIGITAL AGE, MANY PEOPLE GET THEIR NEWS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. THEY DON'T READ NEWSPAPERS ANYMORE, RIGHT? LET'S BE REALISTIC. THEY DON'T GO DIGGING THROUGH OFFICIAL RECORDS. THEY SEE POSTS, THEY SEE HEADLINES AND THEY FORM OPINIONS. THAT MEANS WHAT POSTS GET AND HOW IT'S FRAMED MATTERS. WHAT I OBSERVED WAS A CONSTANT AND CONSISTENT FOCUS ON ONE SITTING. COMMISSIONER. THAT'S POLITICS, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHEN COMMERCIALLY OBTAINED, BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT A PRIVATE FAMILY MEMBER STARTS CIRCULATING DURING AN ELECTION CYCLE AND MOVING BETWEEN POLITICAL ACTORS, THAT'S NO LONGER OVERSIGHT. THAT'S PERSONAL. FAST FORWARD TO THE LINCOLN REAGAN DINNER. I HAD THE HONOR OF ATTENDING AND LISTENING TO SENATOR ADAM MENDOZA SPEAK ABOUT UNITY AND COLLABORATION. HE SAID. THIS COMMUNITY HAD DROPPED THE BALL ON THE PORT COMMISSION SEATS, NOT AS AN ATTACK, BUT AS A CALL FOR LEADERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY. SO HERE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO COLLECTIVELY TO PROVE THE SENATOR WRONG? AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP HERE ABOUT WHAT UNITY AND RESPONSIBILITY AND NOT DIVISION ARE? SECOND, I ASK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AS AS MEN. YOU GUYS ALL CONSIDER YOURSELF CHRISTIAN MEN. WHAT IF ONE OF THE MEMBERS SITTING NEXT TO YOU FOR YOUR WIFE'S INFORMATION TO SOMEBODY ELSE? HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? THAT'S JUST A QUESTION, RIGHT? I'M NOT POINTING ACCUSATIONS. I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. RIGHT. AS MEN, AS CHRISTIAN MEN, AS LEADERS OF THE COMMUNITY, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR WIFE'S PUBLIC INFORMATION WAS FORWARDED BY A MEMBER SITTING NEXT TO YOU UP THERE? THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NO OTHER CARDS BEEN TURNED IN. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO DOWN TO

[4. Report from Judge, Commissioner or Department concerning an item/report of community interest.]

YOU'RE UP FIRST. HEY. WELL, 175 YEARS AGO TODAY, IT WAS A ATTACK ON THE ALAMO. JUST KIND OF REMEMBER THOSE THINGS. WE'RE HAULING DIRT FOR DREAMS DISTRICT OVER ON 48, 43, 83.

THIS MORNING, WE'RE DOING OUR SECOND COURSE, CHIP SEAL ON COUNTY ROAD 3667. WE'RE MOVING ON COUNTY ROAD 43 FOR THE OLD COUNTY ROAD 92. LAST WEEK I ATTENDED VG YOUNG. A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION CAME OUT, ESPECIALLY ON ABATEMENTS AND STUFF, AND I WAS HAPPY TO ATTEND. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED, THE VG YOUNG SCHOOL FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT WAS LAST WEEK. THAT'S ALWAYS A VERY GOOD CONVENTION OUT OF ALL THE THINGS WE ATTEND, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER ONES WE WE GET TO ATTEND TO. I THINK MOST OF THE COURT WAS THERE. THAT'S ALSO A GOOD SIGN. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE FOR THIS WEEK. COUPLE OF REGULAR MEETINGS COMING UP, COASTAL BEND BAYS AND ESTUARIES EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING THIS THURSDAY. I'LL BE ATTENDING THAT. AND I KNOW THE COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE HOSTING A WORKSHOP ON THEIR LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP, BASICALLY, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, JUDGE. THANK YOU, MISS GONZALEZ. YES. GOOD MORNING. WE GOT MOWERS OUT ON COUNTY ROAD. 441 704505. AND THE MATHIS AREA GOT OUR DIRT PATCH TRUCK WORKING ON COUNTY ROAD 21, 49, COUNTY ROAD

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COUNTY ROAD 1674 IN OLDHAM AREA. WE DID THE LEVEL BOX BLADE. WE GOT SOME A COLD PATCH THAT WE'RE DOING THERE. COUNTY ROAD 502. WE PROCESSED THAT ROAD. WE APPLIED 3500 TONS OF LIMESTONE.

THE SAINT PAUL AREA, COUNTY ROAD 798. WE'RE ALSO PROCESSING THERE. WE'RE DOING ANOTHER MILE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SITTING AREA. WE'VE GOT SIGNED DELINEATORS WERE PLACED ON COUNTY ROAD 798, IN SAINT PAUL AND COUNTY ROAD 1906, IN OLDHAM, COUNTY ROAD 1470 AND OLDHAM. WE PROCESSED THAT ROAD AND IT'S READY FOR FINISH. WE GOT BRUSH PICKUP DONE, COUNTY ROAD 1694 AND THE OLDHAM MARION COUNTY ROAD 1906 OLDHAM AREA ALSO WE DID CULVERT REPLACEMENT WAS DONE IN COUNTY ROAD 798 OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 1441. WE DID TREE TRIMMING. CLEANUP DONE WAS ON COUNTY ROAD 1664 AND COUNTY ROAD 1718 AND OLD SAMPAT AREA. THANK YOU, MR. GILLESPIE. YES, SIR. WHILE WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR LUMBER, I HAVE MY WATER TRUCK AND ONE OF MY PEOPLE ON LOAN TO PRECINCT THREE TO HELP OUT THERE. WE'RE DOING POTHOLE PATCHING THE OLD FASHIONED WAY UNTIL WE GET A DIRT PATCH IN AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO START WORKING TOWARDS THE DREDGING OF NAVIGATION DISTRICTS, BOAT BASINS. AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE STATE PERMIT TO BORE UNDER THE ROAD TO DO THE SEWER CONNECTION TO THE AGAPE FELLOWSHIP IN INGLESIDE. OKAY. THAT'S IT. OKAY. DEPARTMENT HEADS, ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD HAVE ANYTHING THIS MORNING? OH, YEAH. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS THE LAST WEEK OF EARLY VOTING. ELECTION DAY IS ON TUESDAY. OUR OFFICE IS OPEN FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. THIS WEEK. MATHIS, PORTLAND AND ARANSAS ARE OPEN FROM 10 TO 6 A.M. EVERY DAY EXCEPT TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, WHERE THEY WILL ALSO BE OPEN FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. TURNOUT'S BEEN GREAT, SO PLEASE STOP BY DURING EARLY VOTING. IT HELPS YOU AVOID THE LINES ON ELECTION DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR MOBLEY. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS I'M DOCTOR JAMES MOBLEY, HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. I HAVE A KIND OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT SURPRISE ANNOUNCEMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE IN THE IN THE NEWS ALL THE TIME ABOUT THERE'S CANCER EVERYWHERE AND PEOPLE ARE DYING OF HEART DISEASE. AND FOOD HAS CONTAMINATIONS. IF YOU LOOK THIS IS LONGEVITY. STARTING IN 1900 TO 2024, WE'VE ACHIEVED THE HIGHEST LONGEVITY IN HISTORY AT THIS TIME. SO IN SPITE OF ALL THAT, SOMEHOW WE'RE WE'RE MAKING OUR WAY THROUGH AND DOING WELL. A COUPLE OF INTERESTING THINGS.

PERSON BORN IN 1900 WAS LIKELY. I'M SORRY. GO BACK. THAT'S THAT WAS MY NOTES. SO BASICALLY WOULD EXPECTED TO LIVE ABOUT 47 YEARS BY THE TIME I WAS BORN IN 47. THAT WAS UP TO ABOUT 64 YEARS AND A CHILD BORN TODAY. IF IT'S A BOY, CAN EXPECT TO MAKE IT TO 76 AND GIRLS GET AN EXTRA FIVE YEARS, IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THEY APPARENTLY GET WORSE CARE. WHICH MAY BE WHY THEY'RE LIVING LONGER. I WON'T WON'T GO ANY FARTHER THAN THAT ON THAT. BUT THIS WAS A PRETTY GOOD NEWS. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT, SINCE WE USUALLY DON'T HEAR THESE KIND OF I DON'T THINK IT MADE THE NEWS AT ALL. IT PROBABLY WASN'T THAT SUBJECT TO YOUR QUESTIONS. THAT CONCLUDES MY BRIEF. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO. THANK YOU, DOCTOR MOBLEY. AND I JUST HAVE A REMINDER. WE HAVE OUR AWARDS LUNCHEON ON MARCH THE 19TH. BUT ANY RECIPIENT THAT IS GETTING AN AWARD HAS UNTIL FRIDAY TO SEND IN THEIR REQUEST. SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET IT ORDERED. TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING OUT A LIST OF ALL THE RECIPIENTS TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS, SO Y'ALL CAN KIND OF REVIEW TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LEAVE ANYBODY OUT. OKAY. YOUR HONOR, I GOT ONE MORE THING TO SAY.

THE HRO JUST REMINDED ME THAT HER BOWLING TEAM, I BELIEVE, WAS THIRD PLACE IN OUR BOWLING ROTARY BOWLING TOURNAMENT YESTERDAY. SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS. THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND I. OKAY. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE ANYTHING? OH, SCOTT, WILL YOU COME UP? I NEED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. HAVE YOU BEEN MONITORING THE DROUGHT MONITOR LATELY? AND WHERE DO WE STAND? YES, SIR. WE ARE. THE NUMBERS ARE GOOD. I'VE BEEN MONITORING THE. I'VE ALSO BEEN MONITORING THE FIRE CALLS TO SEE IF WE WERE GETTING A HIGH AMOUNT DUE TO PEOPLE BURNING. WE HAVEN'T BEEN GETTING THE AN OVER OVERABUNDANT AMOUNT. SO THE THE NUMBERS ARE STILL SAFE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BURN RESPONSIBLY. IF THAT CHANGES, THEN DESPITE

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OKAY. YES, SIR. I KNOW YOU'LL KEEP AN EYE ON IT. LET ME KNOW. OKAY. WELL, THE GOOD WORD WAS DURING JUNE, WE HAD A AN EXPERT IN THERE AND TALK ABOUT WEATHER FOR TEXAS. AND WE'RE GOING IN FROM LA NINA INTO AN EL NINO YEAR, WHICH IS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD. THAT BRINGS THE RAIN OPENS UP TEXAS. AND WHEREAS LA NINA KEEPS THE HURRICANES AWAY, EL NINO DOES NOT. SO RIGHT. BUT WE NEED THE RAIN. YES, SIR. WE DO, WE DO. YES. OKAY. AND JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THE VG YOUNG I ATTENDED AS WELL. AND I TELL YOU, THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING CONFERENCES THAT I'VE BEEN TO FOR, FOR VG YOUNG. I MEAN, LISTEN TO THE CLIMATOLOGIST. OUR EARLY SESSION WAS ON TAX ABATEMENTS. I PICKED UP A LOT OF GOOD ITEMS THAT WE CAN USE DURING OUR TAX ABATEMENTS. NOW. OURS EXPIRED IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, SO WE NEED TO START WORKING ON PUTTING THAT TAX ABATEMENT BACK INTO PROCESS. SO BUT WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP TO COUNTY OUT INSTEAD OF GIVING THE COUNTY AWAY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THEY TALKED ABOUT. DON'T GIVE YOUR COUNTY AWAY IF YOU GIVE THEM TAX ABATEMENTS. SO THAT'S SOME GOOD IDEAS THAT WE CAN THROW IN THERE THIS YEAR AND MAKE IT WORK A WHOLE LOT BETTER FOR US AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY AS WELL. SO ANYBODY ELSE, DEPARTMENT HEAD, HAVE ANYTHING THEY NEED TO MENTION THIS MORNING WHILE WE'RE HERE? OKAY.

[1. Approval of minutes]

THAT'S UNANIMOUS. AND THEN ALL THOSE APPROVING THE FEBRUARY 13TH MEETING SAY AYE AYE WITH ONE ABSTENTION FROM COMMISSIONERS, OF COURSE. VERY GOOD. OKAY. GOOD. INTO OUR

[a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.]

[c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ]

MOVE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS? MISS GARCIA ON TREASURER'S REPORT? YEAH. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

[3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:]

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CAROL WEAVER, RFQ 2025 019D2 39. SINTON. TAFT. CONSTRUCTION FOR $2,041,724.08 TO PROVIDE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TAFT CHANNEL AS APPROVED ON JANUARY 20TH, 26 2.3 E CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON ACCEPTING A CONTRACT WITH G CONSTRUCTION, RFQ 2020 5019-2 39 AND TAFT CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION FOR $7,341,037.70 TO PROVIDE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SINTON CHANNEL, AS APPROVED ON JANUARY 20TH, 2026. MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2.3 A THROUGH E. SECOND, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SIKORSKY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. OKAY. GOING INTO OUR INDIVIDUAL ACTION

[a. Discussion, consideration and action on request by Juvenile Detention to approve Contracts and Agreements of Detention of Juvenile Offenders with the following entities: 1. Kleberg County 2. Live Oak County 3. Wharton County]

[b. Discussion, consideration and action to approve signage installation at the Precinct 1 barns in Taft. The project will be completed by Iconic Sign Group LLC. (TIPS-USA 25010201) for the amount of $12,161.74. Iconic Sign Group LLC terms and conditions include a 50% advanced deposit ($6,080.87) with the remaining balance due upon completion of the project, 25% prior to EMC sign shipment and installation and 25% on completion. ]

[d. Consideration and action on request from Steven Gonzales, Information Technology, to enter into a 36-month service agreement with Tyler Technologies for Hosted RMS System, at an annual cost of $70,280 (with the 2026 cost reduced to $15,821.64 due to a credit from our legacy solution).]

MOTION TO APPROVE 2.4 SECOND. OKAY. GOOD MOTION PLEASE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ,

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THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE GOT 2.4 CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON FROM

[e. Consideration and action on an IT request for the purchase and installation of a Security Camera DVR at Justice of the Peace #4, located at 900 Austin St. Portland, Texas, a total cost of $923.00. Will be paid out of courthouse security.]

OKAY, OKAY. MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENT. STILL GOOD ON COURTHOUSE SECURITY, PATRICK. YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY.

ITEM 2.4 F. I THINK OUR ADVISOR IS. IS HE ON THE WAY? HE IS ON THE WAY. HE HAS SOME CAR PROBLEMS THIS MORNING, BUT HE'S COME IN FROM SAN ANTONIO. SO I ASKED JUDGE IF WE COULD MOVE THIS TO AFTER WE FINISH UP CLOSED SESSION AND GIVE HIM TIME. AND IF HE'S NOT HERE, THEN I'LL. YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE 2.4 F AFTER

[3. PERSONNEL-Employment and current employee status changes in accordance with the current personnel policies, County Budget, and State law with notification of such changes to the payroll division of the Treasurer's office.]

[4. EXECUTIVE SESSION PUBLIC NOTICE is given that the San Patricio Commissioners Court may elect to go into Executive Session anytime during the meeting to discuss matters listed on the Agenda, when authorized by the provisions of the Open Meetings Act, Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code. To the extent there has been a past practice of distinguishing items for public deliberation and those for executive session, the public is advised that the Court is departing from that practice, and reserves the right to discuss any listed agenda items in executive session when authorized by law to do so. In the event the Commissioners Court elects to go into Executive Session regarding an agenda item the section or sections of the Open Meetings Act authorizing the Executive Session will be publicly announced by the presiding officer. In accordance with the authority of the Government Code, Sections 551.071 (Consultation with Attorney), 551.072 (Deliberation Regarding Real Property), 551.0725 (Contract being Negotiated), 551.073 (Prospective Gift), 551.074 (Personnel Matters), 551.0745 (Personnel Matters Affecting County Advisory Body), 551.076 (Security Devices), 551.086 (Public Utilities Competitive Matters), 551.087 (Economic Development Negotiations) the Commissioners Court will hold an Executive Session to consult with attorney(s) including matters related to litigation; deliberate regarding real property; prospective gift(s); personnel matter(s), including termination; security devices, and/or economic development negotiations and other matters that may be discussed in an Executive Session. Upon completion of the Executive Session, the Commissioners' Court may in an open session take such action as appropriate on items discussed in Executive Session.]

SO WITH THAT, I WILL RECESS COMMISSIONERS COURT AT 9:24 A.M. AND WE'LL.

[5. RECONVENE: Regular Commissioners Court Session]

[c. Consideration and action on request from Steven Gonzales, for Information Technolog to enter into a 60-month service agreement with Vested Networks for the County's new phone system, with a MRC of $6,542.75]

[f. Discussion, consideration, and possible approval of a Financing Plan for the sale of the County's Refunding Bonds. ]

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TONY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON HIS WAY. HE EMAILED ME THIS MORNING, SAID HE HAD SOME CAR PROBLEMS. HOPEFULLY HE'S NOT TOO BAD, BUT I'LL GO THROUGH. I PROBABLY WON'T GIVE HIS PRESENTATION JUSTICE, BUT BECAUSE I KNOW HE GETS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS STUFF. BUT WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IS AN OPPORTUNITY BASICALLY TO DO SOME REFINANCING FOR OUR SOME CEO CERTIFICATE OBLIGATIONS FROM 2016. AND WHAT THIS WAS, WE TOOK THESE OUT FOR SOME ROAD REPAIRS. IT WAS ABOUT 8.9 MILLION BACK IN 2016. AND SO WHAT TONY HAS IS, IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW OVER OUR WHOLE DEBT PORTFOLIO. JOSH, YOU JUST WANT TO SCROLL THROUGH. THAT'S FINE. THIS ONE, JUST A DIFFERENT CHART OF WHAT WE HAD IN THE FIRST ONE TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WHENEVER SOME OF OUR BONDS AND CERTIFICATES ARE COMING UP TO BE CALLED. AND SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE A FEW OTHERS COMING UP HERE IN 27, 28. AND THEN JOSH, GO AHEAD PLEASE.

SO HERE, THIS IS WHERE RIGHT NOW OUR COUPON RATE, BASICALLY THE INTEREST RATE IS AT 4%.

WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING DOWN TO ABOUT 3% ON THESE BOND CERTIFICATE OBLIGATIONS FROM 2016. AND THEN SO HERE YOU'LL HAVE BASICALLY THIS NUMBER FLUCTUATES. AT ONE TIME IT WAS ABOUT 234 $235,000. ON THAT SAVINGS. IT'S DROPPED TO ABOUT 217,000. BUT WE'RE STILL WITHIN THAT RANGE OF WE'RE COMFORTABLE GOING OUT AND AND GOING AHEAD AND DOING THE REFINANCING.

RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT 3.5% OF SAVINGS. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. IF IT GETS BELOW THREE THEN THAT'S WE'RE JUST GOING TO CALL IT OFF AND NOT NOT DO IT. WHAT HE WAS SUGGESTING IS DOING WHAT THEY CALL A PRIVATE PLACEMENT TRANSACTION, RATHER THAN GOING OUT AND DOING THE WHOLE PROCESS OF A BOND RATING CALL AND ALL THIS BASICALLY, BASICALLY WE JUST KIND OF PUT THE BONDS OUT FOR BID, AND BANKS WILL GO IN AND THEY'LL BID ON THEM.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD RETURN. AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD, I THINK, PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS ON ON BANKS AND COMPANIES GOING IN AND BUYING OUR STUFF. YES, SIR. THAT'S RIGHT. SO BASICALLY ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY IS BASICALLY Y'ALL'S APPROVAL TO TO HAVE ESTRADA, HINOJOSA AND ALSO MCCALL GO OUT AND START THE PROCESS UP OF OF DOING THE REFINANCING. THE TIMELINE IS, I THINK, THE NEXT PAGE. JOSH, THERE YOU GO. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THIS DONE BY THE END OF APRIL. SO IT'S ABOUT A TWO MONTH PROCESS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RATHER THAN WHAT WE DID BACK IN THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR IS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MONTH PROCESS OF WHENEVER WE HAD THE THE BOND RATE AND EVERYTHING. SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO AND WHENEVER YOU GET EVERYTHING ALL TOGETHER, IT COMES BACK AGAIN TO US FOR FINAL APPROVAL. ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. MOTION TO APPROVE TWO POINT 4FI. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER YARDLEY TO 2.4 F. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PATRICK AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU PATRICK.

THANK YOU, SIR PATRICK. I REMEMBER WHEN DAVID DID THOSE BONDS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. EXECUTIVE SESSION, MOTION TO ADJOURN, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECOND BY YARDLEY FOR MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.