[a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.]

ACTION OF ALL CLAIMS AGAINST SAN PATRICIO COUNTY TO PAY THE BILLS.

SECOND, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE BILLS PRESENTED THIS MORNING? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

UNANIMOUS. OKAY. 2.2 B IS OUR BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

[b. Consideration and action on Budget Line Items, Transfers, and Amendments.]

AND WE DO HAVE SOME AGAIN THIS MORNING. FIRST ONES OUT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TRANSFER AND FROM SOME SOFTWARE LICENSE AND SUPPORT AND TO TRAVEL.

NEXT WAS OUT OF HUMAN SERVICES. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM AUTOPSY EXPENSE IN THE MISCELLANEOUS SERVICES AND CHARGES.

NEXT WAS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN PERMIT DEPARTMENT TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM FUEL AND OIL INTO OVERTIME IN TELEPHONE.

AND THE LAST ONE IS OUT OF THE LIBRARY, TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM BOOK SUBSCRIPTIONS, TRAVEL, OTHER SUPPLIES, AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIES, PRINTING AND VEHICLE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, AND GENERAL SUPPLIES AND FUEL, OIL AND LUBRICANTS. COACH, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

LOOKING SCREEN. IT'S THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL ONE.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL ONE. YEAH.

WHERE IS IT? WHAT? KEEP GOING UP. KEEP GOING UP.

RIGHT THERE. HERE. OKAY, 3500.

OKAY. THAT ONE IS OUT OF NON-DEPARTMENTAL TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM OUR GENERAL SUPPLY ACCOUNT IN THE CONFERENCE ASSOCIATION TO THIS MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET TRANSFERS. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE TRANSFERS? NO, SIR.

HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

2.2 C IS CONSIDERATION. ACTION. BANK RECONCILIATION.

[c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ]

TREASURER'S REPORT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

THIS WEEK'S HEALTH TRANSFER IS $114,800. OUR SECTION 125 TOTAL IS $6,233.82.

WE HAVE ZERO AND ZERO ESCROW. AND I'D LIKE TO REPORT AND RECORD THE OCTOBER 2025 GENERAL FUND, PAYROLL AND ADULT PROBATION. BANK RECONCILIATIONS.

MOVE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. SECOND MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY SIKORSKI.

ANY QUESTIONS ON TREASURER'S REPORT? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. 2.3 IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.

[3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:]

WE DO HAVE ONE THIS MORNING. 2.3 A IS ACCEPT AND RECORD ASSESSMENT.

ASSESS THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS MONTHLY STATEMENT OF COLLECTIONS FOR THE MONTH ENDING 1031 25.

MOVE TO ACCEPT AND RECORD 2.3 A SECOND AND A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY GONZALEZ.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. WE'LL GO DOWN INTO OUR AGENDA ITEMS. FIRST IS 2.4.

[a. Presentation by Corpus Christi Metropolitan Planning Organization on Regional Transportation Plan 2050 MTP.]

A IS A PRESENTATION BY CORPUS CHRISTI MPO YOUR OPERATIONS ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN 2050 MIT.

MR. MCDONALD. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS, GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU ACROSS THE BRIDGE, $1 BILLION BRIDGE.

I BROUGHT MY PROPS OF FAKE MONEY, BUT I CAN'T FIT IT ON THE PODIUM.

SO, JUDGE, I MAY NEED YOUR GAVEL IN CASE SOMEONE REACHES FOR IT, BUT IT'LL MAKE A POINT LATER.

REMEMBER THE HART? THE NEW HARBOR BRIDGE IS 1,000,000,002.

SO A LOT OF MONEY THAT FIRST STARTED AT THE MPO.

SO THIS MORNING I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MPO.

AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS WE'RE ABOUT TO GET INTO.

AGAIN, I'M ROB MCDONALD. I'VE BEEN THE DIRECTOR THERE ABOUT SIX AND A HALF YEARS.

LOOK FORWARD TO TELLING YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. YOU CAN SEE IN THE LIST OF LABELS AND ALL THE LOGOS THIS IS WHO WE SERVE AS THE MPO. SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, FEDERAL TRANSIT, FEDERAL HIGHWAY, OBVIOUSLY TWO COUNTIES.

WE HAVE TWO CITIES. WE HAVE THE PORT AND WE HAVE THE RTA.

AND SO THIS IS A GROUP THAT REALLY CAN MOVE A NEEDLE IN THE WORLD OF TRANSPORTATION.

AND SO IF I DON'T SAY IT TEN TIMES, PLEASE GO TO OUR WEBSITE.

I CANNOT BEGIN TO CONVEY EVERYTHING I NEED TO IN THIS MORNING IN TEN, 12 MINUTES.

BUT IF YOU COME TO OUR WEBSITE, COME TO OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS, SOME OF THIS WILL WILL MAKE A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE IN THE END WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE AND THE JUDGE HAS ONE VOTE TO ALLOCATE PART OF THAT BILLION DOLLARS.

AND SO WE'LL GO FROM THERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS OUR DIRECTORS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EYE TEST FOR THOSE IN THE BACK.

BUT THESE THESE ARE THE LEADERS OF THOSE AGENCIES THAT, THAT DO VOTE FOR HOW TO ALLOCATE MONEY, HOW TO DIRECT WHAT WE SPEND OUR MONEY ON AND WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.

IS IT SAFETY? IS IT NEW BRIDGES, IS IT ROADWAYS? IS TO THE NEW ISLAND OR THE NEW BRIDGE TO AN ISLAND.

SO A LOT OF FOLKS THAT BRING THEIR AGENDAS, THEIR PERSPECTIVES, AND WE BLEND IT ALL TOGETHER.

SO NEXT SLIDE OOPS. BACK ONE. HELPING TO BLEND THE DECISIONS.

WE HAVE A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND SO COMMISSIONER YARDLEY SERVES ON OUR TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AGAIN, WE WANT TO GET THE PERSPECTIVE FROM ALL THE ENGINEERS, THE PLANNERS AND OTHERS LIKE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PRIORITIES IN OUR REGION WILL DO. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT OUR REGION NEXT SLIDE.

WE HAVE WE HAVE A REALLY FUNKY BOUNDARY. BUT IT'S NOT OUR FAULT.

IT'S THE US CENSUS. SO MPOS, THERE ARE 25 IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THERE ARE OVER 450 IN THE US. MPOS, METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS OR COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS WERE KNOWN AS DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE'RE SET UP BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BACK 50, 55 YEARS AGO.

SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DIDN'T HAVE TO TALK TO EVERY CITY, COUNTY AND TOWN IN THE NATION ABOUT WHAT THEIR TRANSPORTATION PRIORITIES ARE.

SO OUR BOUNDARY IS THAT CRAZY LITTLE PURPLE IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT'S WHERE WE GET TO SPEND THE BILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S HOW THE ALLOCATION COMES TO US. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT FORMULA BECAUSE THAT WILL LOOK LIKE CALCULUS.

THE BIGGER BOUNDARY IS OUR MPO BOUNDARY. WE DO PLANNING IN THAT YELLOWISH.

BUT AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, MOST OF THE DATA FROM THE CENSUS AND THE STATE AND OTHERS COME AT COUNTY LEVELS.

AND SO WE PLAN THE TWO COUNTIES IN A LITTLE BIT INTO ARANSAS COUNTY.

SO JUST BECAUSE THE DATA COMES THAT WAY, IT'S JUST EASIER TO REMEMBER THAT WAY.

SO OUR BIG DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE GOT, WE WE DO A 25 YEAR PLAN.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY AND A TEN YEAR PLAN NOW.

WE CERTAINLY KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T REALLY PLAN OUT 25 YEARS FROM NOW.

WHAT ROAD DO YOU NEED TO DRIVE ON 25 YEARS FROM NOW? I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE RETIRED, RIGHT? 25 YEARS FROM NOW. AND SO WE WON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT JUST IN RETIREMENT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT THAT GOOD. SO WHEN WE DO A 25 YEAR PLAN AS WE'RE JUST STARTING NOW WE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.

WE KNOW THINGS CHANGE. ESTIMATES CHANGE NEEDS CHANGE.

SO WE UPDATE EVERY FIVE YEARS. ALONG WITH THAT WE DO THE TEN YEAR PLAN.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.

WE ALSO HAVE A FOUR YEAR PLAN NOW THAT IS NO KIDDING.

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THOSE ARE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CONES AND BARRELS.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS OUT THERE. THAT MEANS TEXDOT OR THE CITIES.

WHOEVER GETS PART OF THIS MONEY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THINGS SO MOST PEOPLE CAN GET OKAY, THAT'S REAL. THAT'S HAPPENING IN TWO YEARS OR FOUR YEARS.

OUR UNIFIED PLANNING WORK PROGRAM, THAT'S OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF HOW WE SPEND ABOUT $1 BILLION A YEAR IN PLANNING.

SO TO PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER, DO ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANNING, THAT'S WHAT WE SCOPE OUT.

AND THEY REVIEW IT AND THEY TELL US WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING RIGHT, WHAT WE'RE DOING WRONG, AND ARE WE DOING A GOOD JOB? AND FINALLY, WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED A CONGESTION MANAGEMENT PROCESS.

ACCORDING TO OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, WE NEED TO LOOK EVERY YEAR OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN CONGESTION AND WORSE, HOW DO WE FIX IT? SO ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU WILL SOON SEE OUR LATEST CMP.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS. SO YOU CAN LOOK ON THAT AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CONGESTION IS IN THE TWO COUNTIES AND SOME IDEAS OF WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS ANOTHER EYE CHART.

SO GO TO OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN SEE THE DETAILS.

THIS ONE. THIS IS OUR FUNDING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT THE FIRST PILE IS ABOUT 444 MILLION.

I FEEL LIKE AN ATTORNEY THAT HAS FOURS BUT IT'S LIKE 444 MILLION AND CHANGE.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MONEY WE HAVE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

SO HOW DO WE SPEND THAT? JUDGE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO DECIDE.

AND SO AS WE BRING ALL THESE PROCESSES FORWARD AGAIN THE BIG NUMBER IS ON THE FAR LEFT.

WE DO THE ESTIMATE STATEWIDE. SO WHEN TEX-DOT PUTS TOGETHER THEIR THEIR 25 OR 10 YEAR PLAN, IT IS 101 $101 BILLION STATEWIDE. SO WE WANT TO GET A SHARE OF THAT.

AND SO WE ARTICULATE HOW MUCH MONEY THE STATE HAS OUR LOCAL TXDOT DISTRICT, HOW MUCH DO THEY HAVE IN THEIR TEN COUNTIES, AND WHAT DO WE HAVE FOR OUR TWO COUNTIES. AND THEN WE ALLOCATE THE MONEY IN DIFFERENT SLICES, DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE 12 CATEGORIES AGAIN.

GO TO OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN READ ALL ABOUT THE CATEGORIES, WHETHER THEY'RE SAFETY OR FOR CONGESTION OR FOR TRANSIT.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE NOT 25 YEARS OF FUNDING.

THIS IS OUR OUR FOUR YEARS OF FUNDING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE NEXT LITERALLY FOUR YEARS.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN'T READ IT, BUT I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP OF IT IN A SECOND.

THREE PROJECTS FROM THE BOTTOM UP. SKIP THE BOTTOM.

THE THREE, THE 324432 ON THAT LIST, SOMETHING WE CALL THE GREGORY INTERCHANGE.

NOW, THIS AFTERNOON, THE JUDGE IS GOING TO VOTE ON $135 MILLION FOR THE GREGORY INTERCHANGE.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. WELL DONE. AND SO TEX-DOT IS ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THAT SO THEY CAN GO FINISH THE DESIGN.

SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN TO THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS. THEY'RE READY TO GO GET THAT PROJECT DONE.

NEXT SLIDE. WE ALSO ROLLED OVER SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ONCE WE PUT THEM IN OUR PLAN, ONCE THEY GET FUNDED, TEX-DOT WILL PUT THEM OUT THERE. THEY'LL DROP OFF A LIST.

AND SO WHEN PEOPLE SEE BARRELS AND ALL THESE THINGS OUT THERE, WE WANT TO SHOW THOSE PROJECTS IN OUR PLAN.

AGAIN, WE'RE THE CLEARINGHOUSE OF ANY TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, PRIVATE DEVELOPER, CITY BOND PROJECTS, ANYONE'S, YOU KNOW, LEGITIMATE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT.

WE BRING IT ALL TOGETHER IN OUR PLAN. SO IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE ONE MORE TIME, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, ALL THE TRANSIT PROJECTS, EVERYTHING IN THE TWO COUNTIES FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.

AND ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS CHART, THIS IS THE TRANSIT.

SO AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON, JUDGE IS GOING TO VOTE ON $30 MILLION FOR CSEA.

SO THEY'RE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE VOTE OF OUR SPECIAL MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS ONE ANOTHER I CHART. THIS IS TEXAS TEN YEAR PLAN.

SO THIS IS WHAT TEXAS IS GOING TO DO OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

AGAIN, THE THE GREGORY INTERCHANGE IS ON HERE.

WE BREAK IT UP INTO NUECES ON TOP AND SAN PATRICIO ON THE BOTTOM.

YOU CAN SEE IF YOU CAN SQUINT, BUT IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND ON OUR WEBSITE YOU CAN SEE THAT GREGORY INTERCHANGE AND A FEW OTHERS.

IN THE TOP. TOP. I'M SORRY. THE ONE OF THE PROJECTS RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM MOORE AVENUE IN PORTLAND.

THAT'S A LONG THAT'S BEEN THERE ON THIS LIST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND SO THAT'S FINALLY GOING TO BE COMING UNDER UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO GET MORE AVENUE WIDENED.

NEXT SLIDE. THERE'S THE GREGORY INTERCHANGE. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE PUBLIC MEETING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY THE VIDEO TODAY.

BUT YOU CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE CAN. WE HAVE THE VIDEO ON OUR WEBSITE.

IT'S ON OUR FRONT PAGE BECAUSE WE ROTATE SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN THE REGION.

BUT THIS IS WHAT TEX-DOT IS GOING TO GET FUNDED TODAY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN AND GET THAT PROJECT BID AND GET THAT CREATION DONE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO KUDOS TO TEX-DOT.

IT'S BEEN IN THE PLANNING STAGES FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP INDUSTRY GET TO AND FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES THEY NEED TO GET TO, AS WELL AS THE REST OF US. NEXT SLIDE. THIS ONE IS OUR WEBSITE AND WE ARE JUST STARTING OUR 2050 AGAIN.

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WE'VE GOT 25 YEARS, OUR EMT-P OR METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN, A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT.

WE ARE JUST STARTING THIS AGAIN. WE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO I INVITE YOU TO GO. YOU CAN TAKE SURVEYS, TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT. ONE OF OUR PUBLIC MEETING GAMES.

WE LITERALLY HAVE SHAPES OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING ON A TABLE, AND WE LET PEOPLE ALLOCATE IN $100 MILLION INCREMENTS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT POTHOLES FIXED? DO YOU WANT MORE TRANSIT? DO YOU WANT MORE AIR SERVICE, MORE ROADS, WHATEVER IT IS YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR MONEY OUT AND WE TAKE A SURVEY, BUT YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND DO THE SURVEY AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE. NOW AS I SAID, WE DO THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE YOU CAN READ BACKWARDS.

SO OUR LAST PLAN WE APPROVED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

SO WE'RE A LITTLE OFF CYCLE THAT CAN SHOW YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE COVER.

WE DO AGAIN I'M NOT GOING TO COVER IT FOR YOU THIS MORNING, BUT WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM FREIGHT AND TRANSIT, SIDEWALKS AND DEMOGRAPHIC DATA. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO HERE'S THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA.

WHAT WE START WITH IN DOING OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING IS WE'RE OUT ASKING FOR THE NEED.

WHAT IS THE NEED? SO WE WANT TO MATCH UP THE NEED WITH THE MONEY, WHICH IS EVENTUALLY WHAT OUR PLANS SAY.

BUT ONE OF THE STARTING POINTS IS WE WORKED WITH THE STATE DEMOGRAPHIC OFFICE, AND EVERY MPO USES THEIR NUMBERS TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT IS THE NEED BASED ON POPULATION. SO WE HAVE A THIS IS THE OLDER VERSION OF THE POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT FORECAST FOR THE THREE COUNTIES THAT WE LOOK AT. WELL, NO SURPRISE TO ALL OF YOU, SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY.

YOU'RE YOU'RE GROWING. SO THIS IS THE ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH YOU'RE GROWING.

EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY FROM IT'S ACTUALLY THE NEW NUMBER IS MORE LIKE ALMOST 80,000.

STATE DEMOGRAPHER UPDATED THEIR NUMBERS. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WITHIN THE COUNTY, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE DOWN TO THE CITIES WHERE THAT 80,000 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO WITH THE JOBS.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION OF WHERE PEOPLE WORK, WHERE PEOPLE SHOP AND WHERE THEY LIVE.

THAT'S OUR TRANSPORTATION DEMAND. SO OUR MONEY GOES TO SOLVE WHATEVER THAT DEMAND IS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO A LITTLE BIT OF GRAPHIC OF WHERE THE GROWTH IS.

THIS IS THE GROWTH THAT WE COUNTED FROM THE CENSUS.

SO THE CENSUS WAS WAY BACK IN 2020. THE NUMBERS CAME OUT YEARS LATER.

THIS SHOWS FROM THE CENSUS COUNT WHERE GROWTH HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN.

AND SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR LEAD INTO OKAY, WHERE'S THE GROWTH GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS.

THIS IS WHERE IT HAPPENED OVER THE NEXT OVER THE FIRST FOUR YEARS OF THAT 25.

SO IT GIVES US A RUNNING START TO SAY, OKAY, NO SURPRISE THERE WERE SOME OF THE GROWTH IS PORT A, OF COURSE GROWING CITIES GROWING PORTLAND AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COUNTY AREAS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ALLOCATE IT TO, TO SMALLER GEOGRAPHIC SHAPES.

WE CALL THEM TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS ZONES. WE ALL JUST NEED TO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY WITHIN THE COUNTY TO SEE WHERE THE JOBS ARE, WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE, AND THEY MAKE THE CONNECTION. NEXT SLIDE.

INCIDENTALLY, ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY YOU HAVE THIS PLAN.

SO THIS PLAN HELPS INFORM WE AT THE REGION OF WHERE YOU'RE ALL THINKING, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE NEXT PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST HAVE THE COVER. THIS IS SOMETHING WE CONSULT AS WE LOOK TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY IS GOING TO BE, OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.

SO WE WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. A LOT OF THE GIS WORK WE SHARE, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE WIND FARMS ARE. SO WE DON'T PLAN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE WORK WITH THE CITY.

NEXT SLIDE. CITY OF PORTLAND. BUT THERE'S THE OTHER PART OF THE GROWTH PLAN THAT WE LOOK AT.

I JUST CLIPPED ONE IMAGE FROM IT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IT NEXT. AND SO WE ALSO LOOK AT THE CITY OF PORTLAND.

THEY'VE GOT A PLAN 2040. THEY LOOK OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GROW, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS AND THEIR POPULATION.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR US, WE'RE THEIR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON HAVING.

SO WE BRING THAT INTO OUR PLAN, AS WE DO WITH ALL THE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES.

WE DON'T MAKE THEM DO REDO THE WORK. WE JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

WE'RE GOING TO BLEND IT TOGETHER INTO OUR PLANNING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS ONE, WE ALSO DEAL WITH THE PORT PROJECTS.

SO PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI I PRESENT TO THEM TOMORROW MORNING.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS IN CONNECTIVITY. SO IT'S NOT JUST THINGS GOING IN AND OUT OF THE PORT, BUT IT'S HOW TO GET TO AND FROM THE PORT. PIPELINES ARE EASY, BUT THE TRUCKS, THE RAILROAD, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO TO AND FROM THE PORT, INCLUDING THE EMPLOYEES, THEY'VE GOT NEEDS OF OF HOW DO WE DO WITH THE RAILROAD?

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DO WE NEED HELP THERE? DO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, STATE HIGHWAYS? DO WE NEED INTERSECTIONS? DO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THINGS ON JOE FULTON? AND SO ALL OF THAT, WE ASKED THEM I'LL ASK THEM TOMORROW MORNING, BUT WE WORK WITH THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO SAY WHAT'S COMING.

WHAT DO YOU SEE IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN? WHAT DO YOU SEE IN YOUR PROJECTS? NEXT SLIDE. CIVICORP CHRISTIE. THEY'RE A COMPLEX ORGANIZATION.

THEY'VE GOT A ROADWAY MASTER PLAN WHERE THEY IDENTIFY $1.5 BILLION OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

AND WE APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT. WE SAY THAT'S GREAT.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT INTO OUR PLAN. WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THEY SAY THEY HAVE THAT MONEY.

THEY'RE NOT COMING AFTER ANY OF THIS MONEY. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BILLION FIVE.

AND SO WE WANT TO BRING IT INTO THE TOTAL PICTURE OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO THAT JUST STRAIGHT COMES INTO OUR PLAN. THEY ALSO HAVE BOND PROJECTS.

EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS THEY ISSUE BONDS. THOSE PROJECTS COME IN WHETHER THEY'RE TRAIL PROJECTS OR STREET CROSSING OR THEY'RE WIDENING, EXTENDING ROCKFIELD ROAD OR WIDENING YORKTOWN, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.

ONCE UPON A TIME, THOSE WERE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN OUR FEDERAL FUNDING CATEGORY.

BUT OVER TIME, THE CITY DECIDED TO GO THEIR OWN WAY, NOT USE THE FEDERAL MONEY, BUT USE THEIR OWN CITY MONEY AND BONDS TO WIDEN THOSE PROJECTS.

NEXT SLIDE. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAFETY.

A BIG THING FOR FOR US IN OUR, IN OUR REGION IS SAFETY AND FATALITIES.

WE AVERAGE, UNFORTUNATELY, ABOUT 40 FATALITIES A YEAR.

WE THINK THAT'S I THINK EVERYONE AGREES THAT'S WAY TOO MUCH.

STATEWIDE, THE NUMBERS IS 4000 STATEWIDE. AND SO WHAT TEX-DOT HAS IS A IS A IS A VARIETY OF SAYINGS AND AND PROGRAMS TO HELP REDUCE THAT. THEIR GOAL IS TO GET TO ZERO DEATHS BY 2050 AND HALF OF THAT BY 2035.

NOW HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU REDUCE 4000 FATALITIES ACROSS TEXAS? THAT'S A TALL ORDER. WE IN OUR REGION, WE WANT TO GET OUR NUMBER 40 TO 0.

SO THE COUNTIES AND CITIES HAVE SOMETHING THEY ADOPT VISION ZERO, MEANING GET TO ZERO FATALITIES BY 2050.

SO FOR US IN OUR REGION, IF WE'RE AT 40 AND WE CAN SAVE TWO LIVES A YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO VISION ZERO.

WE'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE NO DEATHS ON THE HIGHWAYS BECAUSE IT'S HUMAN BEHAVIOR.

AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF THINGS. SO WHAT WE DID, WE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL FEDERAL MONEY BACK IN THE COVID YEARS.

AND WE DID SOMETHING CALLED A REGIONAL SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

WE ANALYZED ALL THE CRASHES IN THE TWO COUNTIES, ABOUT 75,000 CRASHES, FATALITIES, SERIOUS INJURIES.

WE DID THIS REPORT. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, IF I DARE YOU TO READ THE APPENDIX.

APPENDIX A IS 747 PAGES. WHAT THAT IS, IS BASED ON ALL THE ANALYSIS FROM FROM OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.

WHAT CAUSES ALL THESE ACCIDENTS. AND AGAIN WE FOCUSED ON FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES.

SO NEXT SLIDE. WHAT WE WE DID TWO THINGS, ONE OF WHICH ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN GO SORT FATAL CRASHES AND SERIOUS INJURY ACCIDENTS AND OTHERS IN YOUR COUNTY. AND SO I DID THIS BEFORE I PUT THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.

SO RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTY FOR THAT FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD, AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD.

BUT THIS FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD SHOWED 73 FATALITIES IN YOUR COUNTY.

SO WE HAVE THE ANALYSIS OF ALL THOSE WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, T-BONED SOMEONE RUNNING A STOP SIGN WHERE THEY DUI, WHATEVER THE CAUSE WAS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DOCUMENT.

AND WITH OUR, OUR CONSULTANT IDENTIFY POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

SO WE DID THAT. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS A MAP AGAIN ON OUR WEBSITE YOU CAN SEE THE DETAIL.

AND I HAVE A CHART HERE IN A SECOND TO SHOW YOU THE DETAIL. BUT WE SHOW WHERE THOSE FATALITIES ARE AND WHAT ARE THE TOP 32 PLACES THAT ARE, ACCORDING TO OUR CONSULTANT, HIGHLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO IMPROVEMENT.

THOSE ARE THE 32. WE THINK WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE TO REDUCE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURY ACCIDENTS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THERE'S A COUPLE PAGES OF THIS BUT WE LITERALLY LIST THEM.

NUMBER ONE IS AN EASY ONE. FOR $2,000 YOU CAN RETIME THE SIGNAL AND MAKE IT SAFER.

THAT'S EASY. AND WE HAVE OTHERS THAT GO UP TO $10 MILLION TO DO SPEED, YOU KNOW, VARIABLE SPEED LIMITS ON SPEED.

IT'S ALL OF THESE ARE WHAT OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS CALL PROVEN COUNTERMEASURES.

SO THESE ARE BASED ON EXPERIENCE ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

THINGS YOU DO AT INTERSECTIONS OR ALONG ROADWAYS, PUT IN LIGHTING, PUTTING CURBS, GUTTERS, MAKE IT SAFE. ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PROVEN COUNTERMEASURES.

WE APPLIED THOSE TO ALL OF THESE 32 LOCATIONS AND WE CAME UP WITH POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

WE TURNED THEM OVER, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEM AND WE TURNED IT OVER TO MOST OF THE OTHERS ARE IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE GOT FIVE OF THESE PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION BEING IMPLEMENTED, BUT WE WANT TO DO ALL 32 AND SEE HOW WE DO AGAIN TOWARD THAT VISION ZERO.

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NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN YOU CAN READ THE DETAILS. NEXT SLIDE.

I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL TOO MANY OF THESE.

ONE MORE. AND THAT'S THE FINAL LIST OF 32. NEXT SLIDE.

AND SO TODAY I WANT TO HAVE YOU START THINKING ABOUT COME TO OUR WEBSITE.

EMAIL US, FAX US, GET INFORMATION TO US. WHAT IS THE PRIORITY IS SAFETY.

A REAL BIG THING. WE THINK SO. SEND US YOUR LOCATIONS THAT YOU THINK ARE UNSAFE.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. ALSO, WHAT ARE THOSE OTHER PROJECTS? DO YOU WANT SOME HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL PROJECTS? TALKING TO CITY OF GREGORY. THEY WANT SOME SIDEWALKS, AND SO NOT A BIG SURPRISE THERE.

BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS. AND SO WORKING WITH YOUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING, WHAT YOU'VE GOT GOING ON, AND IF IT'S A GOOD MATCH WITH OUR FUNDING, WE'LL PUT IT INTO OUR PLAN.

WE'LL GET INTO THE THE THE MONEY GAME. AND EVENTUALLY YOUR JUDGE CAN VOTE ON IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE START OF OUR PLAN. IT'S NOT THE END OF OUR PLAN.

WE WANT TO HEAR ALL THE PROJECTS WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE AT THIS ANOTHER YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.

SO I HOPE TO BE BACK IN LESS THAN A YEAR WITH THE RESULTS OR WHERE WE ARE KIND OF HALFWAY TOWARD THE THE RESULTS.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M NOT LEAVING MY MONEY. I'M LEAVING YOUR MONEY.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MCDONALD? I'VE ONLY GOT A COMMENT TO MAKE BEFORE THE JOE FULTON CORRIDOR.

BEFORE 89, BEFORE THE HARBOR BRIDGE WAS EVER A LITTLE DREAM.

IT WAS. TALK ABOUT PUTTING IN A CROSS BRIDGE TO ALLEVIATE FOR HURRICANE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE BETWEEN WHITE POINT AND WHAT IS NOW GOING TO BE.

WAS JOE FULTON CORRIDOR GOING TO BE WASN'T IN THERE YET? AND THAT DISCUSSION SEEMED TO HAVE DIED OVER THE YEARS.

1074 CONNECTS UP TO 89 OR 181 OVER THERE OUTSIDE OF SIN.

SO, I MEAN, IT'D BE A LOGICAL THING. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A THIRD BRIDGE, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR EVACUATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR CORPUS. IS HAS THAT EVER GOTTEN ANY CONSIDERATION AGAIN? I MEAN, IT'S JUST DIED IN THE 90S AND I THINK IT EVAPORATED.

BUT LET ME LET ME TALK TO THE PORT, SEE IF WE CAN.

WELL, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HELP YOUR PORT TRAFFIC. IT WOULD HELP CONGESTION ON THE NEW BRIDGE. IT WOULD HELP FOR EVACUATIONS.

AND IT'S A LOGICAL THING. I MEAN, 1074 IS A PRETTY STRAIGHT LINE.

THERE'S ONE CURVE OR TWO. WE LIKE LOGICAL THINGS.

I WILL BRING THAT PROJECT BACK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, ROB, FOR COMING IN. I'LL SEE YOU SHORTLY AFTERWARDS.

AND THEN AT 2:00 THIS AFTERNOON. THAT'S IT. WE'LL GO SPEND THIS.

YEAH. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 2.4. B IS AN UPDATE PRESENTATION ON THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY INDUSTRIAL GROWTH PLAN

[b. Update and Presentation on the San Patricio County Industrial Growth Plan by AECOM representative.]

BY A REPRESENTATIVE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS MORNING.

MY NAME IS CHRIS BREWER. I AM AN ECONOMIST WITH AECOM AND DOING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WORK NOW FOR 30 YEARS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND I REALIZED AS I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH, I TOOK IT BACK IN 2019.

WE HAD JUST MET LEAH. WE WERE STARTING UP AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY STRATEGY LOOKING AT IMPACTS OF HURRICANE HARVEY.

AND AT THE TIME, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A COOL PICTURE, THE SHIPS FADING INTO THE DISTANCE.

BUT LOOKING BACK AT THAT TIME, WE HAD A BUNCH OF MAJOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS FROM MAJOR OIL AND GAS PROJECTS THAT WERE UNDERWAY.

AT THAT POINT, THEY HAD NOT GOTTEN INTO PRODUCTION YET. BUT THEN LOOKING BACK, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF SHIPS IN THE DISTANCE AND YOU APPRECIATE THE IMPLICATIONS, THE FORESHADOWING OF GROWTH NEW ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.

AND I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD NEWS HAS BEEN THE THAT THE REGION IS BENEFITING FROM THAT GROWTH. BUT WE WOULD ALSO SAY NATIONALLY THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY SEEING RECOVERY IN ACTUAL GROWTH NATIONALLY IN ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THESE NEW PLANTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO.

AND I THINK BACK TO THE SCALE OF, SAY, THE PACKARD PLANT IN DETROIT FROM THE 1920S.

IT'S A VERY SMALL BUILDING RELATIVE TO WHAT WE BUILD TODAY.

SO THE SCALE IS MUCH LARGER, THE IMPACTS ARE LARGER.

AND LAST POINT I WOULD MAKE AT THE BEGINNING IS THAT THERE ARE A SMALL NUMBER OF PLACES IN THE COUNTRY WHERE, WHETHER IT'S A PIPELINE OR IT'S A INTERSTATE OR A SET OF RAILROAD TRACK, THERE'S A SMALLER PLACES WHERE FREIGHT REALLY WANTS TO STOP.

AND WE'VE NOW SEEN WHAT'S PLAYED OUT IN CORPUS CHRISTI AS WELL AS IN SAINT, MORE SO IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

FREIGHT WANTS TO STOP HERE, AND THAT MEANS COMPANIES ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT, WHETHER IT'S PIPELINE OR RAIL. OTHERWISE THEY'RE GOING TO TRY AND ADD VALUE TO IT.

SO WE SEE A SET OF FACTORS THAT ARE STRUCTURAL HERE THAT WILL ENABLE CONTINUED GROWTH, AND IT SPEAKS TO A CORE GOAL OF STUDIES LIKE THIS TO TRY TO BE AS INTENTIONAL AS WE CAN

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ABOUT PLANNING AROUND FREIGHT. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES IN THIS COUNTRY.

I ALWAYS PICK ON WILL COUNTY, WHICH IS SOUTH OF CHICAGO.

THE WILL COUNTY INLAND PORT GREW FROM NOTHING TO MORE THAN 100,000FT² OF WAREHOUSE AND MANUFACTURING SPACE IN ABOUT 15 YEARS.

I THINK ALL THE FARMERS THAT HAPPILY SOLD THEIR LAND AND, YOU KNOW, DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO.

NOW LOOK BACK AND WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO QUALITY OF LIFE AND A LOT OF FACTORS BECAUSE IT HAPPENED SO QUICKLY.

SO IT'S A GOAL WITH THESE STRATEGIES TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN THINGS ACCELERATE, AND THE GOAL OF BEING AS INTENTIONAL AS WE CAN AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE GOAL OF THE INDUSTRIAL GROWTH PLAN. AGAIN, THE GOAL WAS AN INTENTIONAL STRATEGY.

WE WANTED TO COME AT THIS FROM A GIS STANDPOINT.

SO LOTS OF DATA TO PARCEL LEVEL TO UNDERSTAND PLACES WITHIN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE TO SUPPORT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RETAIL. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WAREHOUSES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LARGE SCALE OIL AND GAS, PLASTICS, MAJOR FACILITIES PROBABLY NORTH OF 500 ACRES, BIG PROJECTS. WE ALSO WANTED TO DO A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

AND AS THE WE TALKED THIS MORNING, THE STUDY HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T TALKED TO SOME OF THE NEW ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE CHALLENGES. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO SOME OF THE NEWLY ARRIVING PEOPLE, BUT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENT OVER THE LAST THREE TO 4 TO 5 YEARS TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS EFFORT, OBVIOUSLY, ALSO OUR PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS. SO MEETING WITH THE COMPANIES WE MET WITH, CLASS ONE RAILROADS, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MOST INTERESTING, TALKING TO THE BNSF RAILWAY, YOU HAVE A FREIGHT RAIL CORRIDOR THAT'S NOT THAT FAR FROM HERE. THREE CLASS ONES USE IT KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN, NOW PART OF CANADIAN PACIFIC, UNION PACIFIC, WHICH IS ABOUT TO BY NORFOLK SOUTHERN. THOSE RAILROADS ARE ALL TELEGRAPHING CONTINUED GROWTH ON THAT MAIN CORRIDOR.

THERE AREN'T THAT MANY CORRIDORS THAT HAVE THREE CLASS ONES THAT SHARE. SO AGAIN, GROWTH AND VOLUME.

THAT MEANS OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS, HOW DO WE ACTIVELY MANAGE THAT GROWTH? SO AGAIN, THINKING INTENTIONALLY ABOUT THESE IMPLICATIONS. SO AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AGAIN, OUR NOTION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IS INTENTIONALLY NARROW.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THE STATE OF TEXAS HELPS US OUT. TEXAS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SET OF STANDARDS FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES AN AIR PERMIT.

SO IT'S A VERY NARROW SET OF ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A MORE ACTIVE STRATEGY AROUND HOW TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT.

SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID, WELL, THAT'S INDUSTRIAL. IT'S LIKE, WELL THAT'S A WAREHOUSE. WE'RE NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I WOULD SAY IN ADDITION TO THIS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEFINITION, THIS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON SAN PATRICIO COUNTY.

AGAIN, EACH CITY HAS ITS OWN ZONING CODE. THEY MANAGE THEIR OWN ZONING.

WE WOULD SAY IN ALL CASES TODAY CITIES SHOULD LOOK INTENTIONALLY AT THEIR ZONING CODES.

INDUSTRIAL HAS CHANGED FUNDAMENTALLY OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. WE WOULD SAY A LOT OF CITIES SHOULD REVISIT THEIR ZONING TO MAKE SURE IT'S CURRENT IN TERMS OF CURRENT STANDARDS, WHAT'S EXPECTED FOR INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY. BUT AGAIN, MOST OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS STUDY, LARGER USES THAT ARE MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE IN RURAL PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY AND OUTSIDE OF THE INCORPORATED CITIES.

WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THE BIG PICTURE FOR ME, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NOTION OF FREIGHT WANTING TO CONCENTRATE HERE, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY HAPPENING HERE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PIPELINES THAT CONNECT TO A MUCH LARGER AREA AND WILL ALWAYS BRING THAT PRODUCT IN, COMPANIES WILL WANT TO ADD VALUE TO IT. OBVIOUSLY, I JUST READ THIS WEEK ABOUT A PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE PLANT.

THE THING WE POINT OUT IS THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT THE ENERGY TRANSITION, THIS NOTION OF ELECTRIFICATION OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEED HYDROCARBONS.

THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A ROLE FOR THEM IN PLACES LIKE THIS AREA, ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PLAY SOME KIND OF ROLE IN THAT.

IT'S JUST WHAT WE EXPECT. SO THAT MEANS IT'S STARTING TO UNDERSTAND THE SCALE OF THAT.

AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE FUTURE? HOW MUCH GROWTH CAN WE EXPECT AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF LAND REQUIREMENTS.

SO AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, INDUSTRY ANALYSIS.

BEING THE ECONOMIST, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE LINES THAT ARE CROOKED.

THE LINE IN TEAL REPRESENTS A SET OF CORE INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES.

SO STEEL CHEMICALS TRANSPORTATION. BASICALLY IT REPRESENTS 300% GROWTH IN OUTPUT.

CORPUS CHRISTI REALLY SINCE 2019 2020. RIGHT WHEN I TOOK THAT PICTURE AGAIN, THOSE PLANTS ALL STARTED ONLINE RIGHT AROUND 2020, 2021, AND THE ECONOMY HAS GROWN CONSISTENTLY.

BUT THE LAST POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT CIRCLE IN THE UPPER RIGHT THE COUNTY'S ECONOMY IS NOT AS DIVERSIFIED AS I WOULD LIKE.

AGAIN, YOU'RE GENERATING A LOT OF ACTIVITY FROM A RELATIVELY NARROW SET OF ACTIVITIES.

SO ONE OF OUR ULTIMATE GOALS FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT IS TO DIVERSIFY, ADD RESILIENCY, SO THAT IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN ONE INDUSTRY, WE DON'T FEEL THAT RIPPLE EFFECT THE WAY AGAIN, GO BACK 20, 30, 40 YEARS TO THE LAST OIL BUST WHERE YOU STILL SEE VESTIGES OF THAT IF YOU DRIVE, SAY TOWARDS VICTORIA AGAIN, VESTIGES OF LAST OIL BUST.

BUT AGAIN, INCREDIBLE GROWTH. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

AGAIN THINKING ABOUT OIL AND GAS. THE ONE THAT STRUCK ME THE MOST WAS THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. CRUDE OIL EXPORTS BASICALLY UP 300%.

MORE OR LESS. TREMENDOUS GROWTH. AGAIN, THAT VOLUME COMING THROUGH THE PORT MEANS COMPANIES ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO ADD VALUE TO IT AS WELL.

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SO AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING WITH ANY FREIGHT RELATED CONVERSATION HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE BENEFITS OF WHAT'S COMING THROUGH.

BECAUSE THE LESS EXCITING THING IS MITIGATING IMPACTS.

MITIGATING IMPACTS ISN'T AS MUCH FUN. SO BEING INTENTIONAL IS ALWAYS THE GOAL. AND WE START THINKING ABOUT THE SCALE OF NEW DEVELOPMENT.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AGAIN. STEEL SAN PATRICIO IS IN THE LIGHT GREEN COLOR.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT BASICALLY WENT FROM NOWHERE TO ABOUT ONE OF THE TOP FOUR LARGEST STEEL PRODUCERS IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS.

AGAIN, JUST FLYING AND JUST DRIVING PAST IT YESTERDAY.

IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE SPREAD. NOW, THE RAILYARD, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SUPPLIERS THAT ARE THERE A BEAST OF AN ORGANIZATION.

SAN PATRICIO IS NOW ACTUALLY COMPARABLE TO LA AND CONTRA COSTA IN SAN FRANCISCO IN TERMS OF STEEL OUTPUT.

SO YOU'RE ON THE MAP. TOP 100 COUNTY NATIONALLY.

AGAIN, THESE ARE SIGNS THAT TELL US TO SPEAK TO OPPORTUNITY, BUT ALSO SPEAK TO THE NEED TO START PLANNING INTENTIONALLY FOR IT.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO A LOT OF THIS ACTIVITY WAS ABOUT LAND ABSORPTION.

UNDERSTANDING HOW LAND WAS BEING USED ACROSS THE COUNTY. AGAIN, I ALWAYS SAY TEXAS IS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYWHERE ELSE.

COUNTIES DO NOT HAVE LAND USE CONTROL AND ZONING CONTROL IN THE RURAL AREAS.

YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH YOUR LAND, WHICH IS GREAT. THE ONE DIFFERENCE I WOULD POINT OUT WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IS THAT YOU NEED INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THE POINT OF THIS STUDY IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES IN THE COUNTY WHERE THERE'S ALREADY RAIL, THERE'S ALREADY ELECTRICITY, THERE'S ALREADY ROADS, AND THAT A COMPANY LOOKING TO EXPAND HERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE PREDISPOSED TO LOOK AT THOSE PLACES JUST STRICTLY IN TERMS OF MANAGING THEIR COST OF CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'LL BE PREDISPOSED TO LOOK AT CERTAIN CORRIDORS MORE SO THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. WHAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS WITH THESE PROJECTS IS COMPANIES CAN AFFORD TO SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS. THEY CAN EXTEND A WATER LINE FURTHER THAN THEY WANTED TO.

THEY CAN ADD RAIL IF THEY HAVE TO, BUT THEY CAN'T DO EVERYTHING LIKE THERE ARE LIMITS.

ULTIMATELY WITH ALL BIG PROJECTS. SO AGAIN, WE WANT TO DO IS THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF LAND WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AGAIN, ROUGHLY 10,000 ACRES OF LAND DEVELOPED IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY SINCE 2017.

IRONICALLY, ABOUT HALF RESIDENTIAL AND HALF INDUSTRIAL.

I THINK ONE OF THE BIG SURPRISES IN SAN PAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED SINCE 2020.

AGAIN, IT'S NOT A COMPLETE SURPRISE. MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INCORPORATED AREN'T NECESSARILY GEOGRAPHICALLY THAT BIG.

DIDN'T HAVE A READY SUPPLY OF VACANT. VACANT LOTS TO BUILD HOUSING.

SO THE RURAL AREAS ARE SEEING NEW HOUSING GROWTH AT MUCH LOWER DENSITIES.

SO AGAIN, ONE OF OUR BIG QUESTIONS WITH INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IS HOW DO WE MITIGATE CONFLICT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL USE AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES.

THOSE ARE TWO USES THAT JUST DON'T GO WELL TOGETHER.

SO AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT THIS LAND ABSORPTION, TULSA STARTS TO TELL US A STORY ABOUT LAND, HOW MUCH WE'RE BURNING THROUGH IT. BUT THEN ON THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER, THE NUMBER OF PARCELS LARGER THAN 500 ACRES.

FIVE OF THEM. AGAIN, OUR STUDY IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT SMALLER SUBSET OF BIGGER INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES, THE ONES THAT HAVE OUTSIZED IMPACTS AND BEING MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT THOSE.

THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS GIS MAPPING WAS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.

WE WENT THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE EFFORT TO THINK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS TO THINK ABOUT STORM SURGE AREAS, TO THINK ABOUT AREAS IMPACTED BY WIND TURBINES.

WE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT LOOKED INTO ZONING CODES.

TO UNDERSTAND HOW BIG OF A SETBACK AREA YOU NEED AROUND A WIND TURBINE, BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE'S 1 IN 1,000,000 CHANCE THAT IT'LL FALL OVER AND YOU HAVE TO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN THAT. I THINK THE MORE INTERESTING ONE WAS PIPELINE IMPACTS.

WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT THE MATH AROUND PARCELS OF A CERTAIN SIZE BENEFIT FROM PIPELINE ACCESS.

HOWEVER, IF THE PARCEL IS TOO SMALL, THE PIPELINE ACTUALLY INTERFERES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARCEL. SO AROUND 25 ACRES IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT TO A PARCEL.

LESS THAN 25 IS A CHALLENGE. AND YOU CAN SEE IN SOME CASES THE PIPELINES HAVE A MASSIVE IMPACT IN DEVELOPMENT IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

BUT THE GOAL WAS TO OVERLAY ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFORMATION, ALONG WITH WHAT THE CITIES SAY, THEIR OWN VIEW OF THEIR FUTURE IS. SO THAT UPPER RIGHT GRAPH IS THIS NOTION OF MUNICIPAL GROWTH ZONES.

SO AGAIN, TALKING TO EACH OTHER, TALKING TO EACH MUNICIPALITY ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE THEY NEED TO SUPPORT GROWTH IN NON-INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE NEXT COMING YEARS.

SO A LOT OF THIS LAND IS IN EXTRATERRITORIAL AREAS.

ETJ. BUT AGAIN THAT PRESENCE OF WHAT DO THE COMMUNITIES SEE THEIR NEEDS ARE IN COMING YEARS.

SO AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, STARTING TO PULL IT ALL TOGETHER AND THINK ABOUT THE MATH ON THIS.

THERE WE GO AGAIN. DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF GIS MAPPING.

SO ENVIRONMENTAL. THERE'S ABOUT 118,000 ACRES.

THAT'S SENSITIVE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING ON IT NOW.

IT'S NOT JUST STORM SURGE PARKS. THE WHOLE NINE YARDS AGAIN.

INFRASTRUCTURE PIPELINE HINDRANCE, WIND TURBINES, 33,000 ACRES TAKEN UP IN THOSE ACTIVITIES RIGHT NOW AND THEN LAND USE.

SO RESIDENTIAL CONFLICTS, SCHOOL CONFLICTS, CHURCHES, HOSPITALS ANOTHER 130,000 ACRES.

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SO AGAIN, THIS IS LAND THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT OF CONSIDERATION FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, A LOT OF RESEARCH INTO SETBACKS. HOW FAR AWAY SHOULD A HOUSE BE FROM AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL PROCESS. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO ULTIMATELY WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN. TRYING TO AGAIN NOT PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS.

BECAUSE THIS IS TEXAS AND ANYONE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THEIR LAND. THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING. BUT IT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES WHERE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE IS LIKELY GOING TO GO, JUST BECAUSE IT'S SLIGHTLY LESS EXPENSIVE TO GO THERE.

AGAIN, THE RAIL IS THERE, THE STREET IS THERE, THE WATER IS THERE, THE UTILITIES ARE THERE VERSUS OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY WHERE NONE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS? AGAIN, JUST YESTERDAY, AS I DROVE INTO TOWN, I'M MINDFUL OF HOW BIG THE COUNTY IS AND HOW MUCH OF IT IS FARMLAND AT THIS POINT. BUT AGAIN, GETTING TO THIS NOTION OF PLACES IN THE COUNTY WHERE WE WOULD SAY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY IS MORE LIKELY.

BUT ALSO, AGAIN, HOW CAN THE COUNTY BEGIN TO INFLUENCE SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT? SO ONE OF THE BIG POLICY GOALS FROM THE STUDY WAS WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC CONTROLS THE COUNTY HAS TO INFLUENCE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT? AND THE ONE TOOL IT DOES HAVE IS WHEN TO ALLOW INCENTIVES.

SO THAT NOTION OF HOW WE ENABLE INCENTIVE USE OR DISCOURAGE INCENTIVE USE IS PROBABLY THE ONE TOOLKIT THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO POTENTIALLY SWAY A COMPANY FROM BEING IN ONE PLACE OR ANOTHER. SO AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE GOAL HERE IS TO REDUCE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS.

THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY THE GOAL. WE SEE THAT CONFLICTS, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE DO NOT BE INTENTIONAL, WILL GROW OVER TIME. WE WILL HAVE MORE CONFLICTS TO DEAL WITH, MORE CHALLENGES AGAIN.

ONE THING WE SEE IS THAT THE USE OF THE TAX ABATEMENT IS PROBABLY THE ONE TOOL THAT COULD BEGIN TO INFLUENCE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WITHIN MUNICIPAL GROWTH ZONES, THE COUNTY.

THE GOAL OF THE POLICY WOULD BE TO SAY THE COUNTY WILL NOT DO A TAX INCREMENT.

FUNDING FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN GROWTH ZONES IS THE SIMPLE GOAL.

AGAIN, THAT MAY NOT PREVENT SOMEONE FROM DOING SOMETHING, BUT THAT'S THE INCENTIVE THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO PUT IN PLAY.

SO AGAIN, AGAIN, THE IDEA OF INTEGRATING THIS POLICY WITHIN INCENTIVES, ALLOWING IT TO BE UPDATED.

AGAIN, THERE ARE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE COULD ULTIMATELY THINK ABOUT IN LONG TERM. AGAIN, INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE KEY FOR LARGE PROJECTS. HOW INFRASTRUCTURE PLAYS OUT BECOMES THE BIGGEST FACTOR, THE BIGGEST COST FOR THESE COMPANIES.

QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START OKAY.

NUMBER ONE IS THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS PLAN.

FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR ABOUT 11 MONTHS, AND I HEARD ABOUT THIS NOW ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

THREE WEEKS AGO, THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT, AND ORIGINALLY.

SO I DID SOME RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT THROUGH DEBBIE AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THAT THIS WAS ONLY INTENDED TO GET THE INPUT FROM THE CITIES OF WHAT THEY WANTED OUTSIDE THEIR CITY LIMITS, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE WITH ME.

ALL THE AREAS, UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY FALL PRETTY MUCH WITHIN PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT THREE.

PRECINCT TWO. COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE, AND I QUESTIONED THAT AND THE FACT THAT LESS THAN A PERCENTAGE OR TWO OF UNINCORPORATED AREA IS IN HIS PRECINCT. NUMBER THREE, THE FARMERS.

IF YOU DON'T THINK INDUSTRIAL NEEDS THE INPUT, THEN YOU GOT GET INDUSTRY INPUT.

BUT IF YOU DON'T FEEL THAT FARMING IS AN INDUSTRY, I MEAN, IT'S BUILT THE BACKBONE OF THIS COUNTY, AND I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE WHERE THE FARMERS HAD ANY INPUT ON WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

IT'S A KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE. THEY BUILT THIS COUNTY LAST 200 YEARS.

THIS THIS PLAN FOR CITIES TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEY LIKE IS GREAT.

BUT IN TEXAS. AND YOU SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES. WE DON'T HAVE ZONING IN TEXAS.

WHEN YOU TIE ABATEMENTS, YOU'RE BEING PUNITIVE.

YOU'RE TELLING ONE SET OF LANDOWNERS THEIR PROPERTY IS WORTH SO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S FOR INDUSTRIAL, AND IT MAKES A BIGGER COST WHEN YOU GO TO BUY THAT PROPERTY.

LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DROPS IT DOWN AND RESIDENTIAL DROPS DOWN.

THAT'S BEING PUNITIVE. SO, YOU KNOW, ATTACHING ABATEMENTS TO THAT LAND AND OPENING UP THE COUNTY FOR LAWSUITS.

AND THIS THIS VIDEO WILL PROBABLY BE PART OF THAT LAWSUIT EVENTUALLY DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK, IF IT EVER COMES TO FRUITION. SO I'M SAYING IT'S BACKDOOR, IT'S ZONING.

IT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING US TO DO. AND I CAN'T SEE SUPPORTING BACKDOOR ZONING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE CITIES HAVE INPUT ON WHAT THEY WANT OUTSIDE THEIR CITIES. AND IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

BUT TO PUT IT DOWN IN A PLAN AND WHERE YOU ATTACH ABATEMENTS TO IT IS WRONG.

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ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. NO, I AGREE WITH THE THE COMMISSIONER PROBLEM WAS I THINK WAS THE LAUNCH OF THIS IT WAS A LITTLE PREMATURE, SO PEOPLE GOT THE WRONG IMPRESSION OF IT.

I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT AECOM HAS PUT INTO THIS.

BUT THE REPORT, THE THINGS I GOT FEEDBACK ON WERE THAT THE COUNTY WAS GIVING AWAY OVER 100,000 ACRES OF LAND TO INDUSTRY.

THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC GOT OUT OF IT. SOME OF THEM ANYWAY.

SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT A MONIKER ON CERTAIN LANDS AND NOT ON OTHER LANDS.

THE WHOLE IDEA IS, WHERE DO THE CITIES NOT WANT TO HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL PLANT RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR THAT? THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONER.

IT DOES SMACK OF ZONING AND TEXAS COUNTIES DON'T ZONE.

IT'S MY INPUT. I AGREE. WE GOT A FARMER OUT HERE RIGHT NOW.

MR. NED, HAVE ANYBODY REACHED OUT TO YOU? YOU YOU GOT A BIG COMMUNITY OF FARMERS, AND YOU, YOU'RE OUT HERE. NOBODY'S REACHED OUT. OH, SEE, I CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT TRANSPARENT, AND I DON'T SUPPORT IT. SO I GUESS I'LL SPEAK TO THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, IT IS NOT ZONING. THERE IS NO ZONING INVOLVED WITH THIS.

IT IS SIMPLY USING OUR EXISTING TAX ABATEMENT POLICY AND COMING UP WITH AN INTENTIONAL PLAN WHERE WE'D LIKE TO SEE FUTURE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL GROWTH IN AREAS THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE FUTURE INDUSTRIAL GROWTH.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO JIM ALLISON, THE TOP LEGAL PERSON AT THE COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION, NUMEROUS TIMES ABOUT THIS. AND HIS TAKE IS THIS IS A PERFECT USE OF TAX ABATEMENT POLICY.

THAT'S HIS BOTTOM LINE. THE GOAL IS NOT TO GIVE AWAY LAND INDUSTRY.

FIRST OF ALL, THE COUNTY HAS VERY LITTLE LAND TO GIVE AWAY.

WE'RE NOT GIVING AWAY LAND TO INDUSTRY. THE GOAL TO THIS PLAN IS TO PREVENT INDUSTRY FROM LOCATING IN AREAS THAT OUR CITIES HAVE IDENTIFIED, AS AREAS THAT WE DO NOT WANT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL GROWTH TO OCCUR.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS PLAN. SO IT'S NOT TO PROMOTE REMOTE INDUSTRY.

IT IS TO PREVENT INDUSTRY FROM COMING WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED AREAS, WE DO NOT WANT INDUSTRY TO COME.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE. OKAY, THE COUNTERPOINT TO THAT IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES DO NOT WANT INDUSTRIAL GROWTH WITHIN THEIR AREAS, NOT JUST ONE OF THE WHOLE COUNTY THAT SHOWS WHERE INDUSTRY COULD BE OTHER THAN IN THE CITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THAT'S WHAT THE GRAY AREAS ON THAT MAP ARE.

JOSH, IF YOU CAN BRING UP THE MAP THAT IS THE MUNICIPAL INDUSTRIAL OVERLAY MAP, THE TOTAL MAP, I DON'T SEE IT. MY, MY COUNTERPOINT TO THAT IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE MR. ELLISON'S NAME, YOU BETTER BRING SOME DOCUMENTATION WITH YOU.

BECAUSE BASICALLY, MERRIAM WEBSTER DICTIONARY ZONING IS A NOUN ACTIVE PROCESS OF PETITIONING AN AREA INTO ZONES RESERVED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, SUCH AS RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

YOU KNOW, MR. ELLISON IS A VERY NICE MAN. I READ HIS COMMENTS DAILY, AS OTHER COMMISSIONERS FROM OTHER COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS ASK HIM QUESTIONS. I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS QUESTION, AND THEY HAVEN'T PRODUCED ANY DOCUMENTATION WHERE YOU'VE REQUESTED THAT DATA.

AND THE LAST I HEARD, MR. ELLISON WOULD LOVE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS IF YOU PAY HIM TO DO IT.

BUT HE IS ATTACK COMMISSIONER. I MEAN, ATTACK LAWYER.

AND I RESPECT HIS GUIDANCE, BUT I DON'T THINK IF HE SAW THIS AS IT IS THAT HE WOULD SAY THIS.

NOW, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT, CHRIS YOU KNOW, I LEND TO YOU AS A COURT.

WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF ZONING? AS THIS WOULD BE IN ZONING? IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE. COMMISSIONER. WE'VE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A I SAY WE, COMMISSIONER CHARLIE AND I.

COMMISSIONER CHARLIE SENT A AN EMAIL TO MR. ELLISON ASKING FOR HIS OPINION.

HE HE WOULDN'T GIVE US HIS OPINION. INSTEAD, HE SAID YOU CAN HIRE ME FOR THAT OPINION BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A COMPLEX.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I WILL REACH OUT COMMISSIONER THAT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE FORMER FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. IT WAS SUNSETTED.

IT WAS NOW, I TALKED TO ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL AT THE.

WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. I WAS REFERRED TO MR. ALVAREZ, WHO'S WITH THAT. AND IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE WHERE IT INVOLVES CREATING ENTERPRISE ZONES.

AND SO IT WOULD REQUIRE EXPERTISE OF SOMEONE LIKE MR. ALLISON. THIS COUNTY DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE. ANY MORE SUITS AGAINST IT FOR DOING THINGS.

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IT IS LOGICALLY INDIFFERENT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AECOM KNOWS THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR US, NOT FOR Y'ALL. YOU DID AS DIRECTED, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE WAS, I BELIEVE WE GOT A CHECK FOR $150,000 FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY. AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE COURT APPROVING THE ACCEPTANCE OF THAT CHECK.

I COULD BE WRONG. IT WASN'T ON YOUR WATCH, PATRICK.

WE DID RECEIVE $150,000 CHECK FROM THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO COLLECTED THE MONEY FROM INDUSTRY AND THE PORT.

THEY PUT THAT MONEY TOGETHER AND WROTE ONE CHECK TO THE COUNTY.

I KNOW I TALKED TO MR. WINDLE NUMEROUS TIMES ABOUT THAT.

AND AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, IT WAS PROCESSED CORRECTLY.

AND, MR. WINDLE, NORMALLY WE APPROVE ANY TYPE OF DONATIONS OR GRANTS FROM ANY, ANY PERSON.

WE HAVE A COURT IN COURT AND HAVE IT ON THE, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO THE THE NARRATIVE.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WHO SOLICITED FOR THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO BE PAID TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION? PRIMARILY ME. YOU AND NOT THE COURT. THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM.

SHOULD COME TO THE COURT. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY.

DO WE WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT? I ANNOUNCED IN COURT THAT WE ARE AT A POINT IN THE PLAN WHERE WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING. OUR OPTIONS WERE TO TRY TO GO BACK TO OUR CITIES AND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND TRY TO GET MONEY FROM THEM.

BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, THEY ALL HAVE VERY LIMITED BUDGETS, AND IT WAS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH $150,000 FROM THE CITIES AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN OUR COUNTY. CAN YOU GIVE US THAT COURT DATE? I WILL FIND IT. I MEAN, AND DID WE APPROVE THE YOUR GOING TO THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND ASKING FOR $75,000 AND GOING TO THE OTHER INDUSTRIES AND ASKING FOR THEIR INPUT? I THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE HAVE HAD NOT MUCH INPUT ON THE APPROVAL OF SOME OF THIS STUFF.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT MONIES WE TAKE IN, WHY WE TAKE IT IN.

WE ACCEPT IT AS A COURT. WE DON'T GO OUT INDIVIDUALLY AND SOLICIT FOR MONEY HAS TO BE DONE AS A COURT.

I AGREE COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU NEED TO STEP DOWN FROM THAT COURT IF YOU'RE NOT BEING TRANSPARENT HERE TO OUR PEOPLE.

I AM BEING TRANSPARENT. I'VE ANNOUNCED ALL OF THIS IN COURT.

THE THREE QUESTIONS HE ASKED YOU. SO WHAT DID I ANSWER NO TO? I JUST IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT. IT'S. I ANNOUNCED IN COURT THAT WITH THE CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP AT THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING HERE THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY.

I ANNOUNCED WHAT WE WERE DOING. I ANNOUNCED HOW MUCH MONEY WAS INVOLVED.

DID WE DID WE VOTE ON IT? YES OR NO? I DO NOT BELIEVE WE DID.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM. PURE AND SIMPLE. OH, WELL, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE MINUTES, BECAUSE THAT SHOULD BE ON OUR RECORDED MINUTES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND ON THAT AND ON THE DATES.

IT'S NOT THERE, YOUR HONOR. I KNOW, BUT WE NEED THEM. I KNOW.

WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY AND GIVING US MORE OF A PRESENTATION THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST 11 MONTHS FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.

AND YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FORWARD TO LOOKING AT THIS MORE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT AS IS RIGHT NOW I THINK ONLY TWO CITIES IN THE COUNTY HAVE APPROVED GOING FORWARD ON THIS PLAN.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY RESOLUTION HERE, BUT THANK YOU.

I THINK DO I MAKE COMMENTS OR. WE'RE DONE? YOU CAN, IF YOU WISH.

YEAH. I WOULD JUST STRESS THAT A LOT OF THIS WORK AGAIN, WE STARTED WORK HERE IN FALL OF 2019 ON THE DISASTER RECOVERY STRATEGY ACROSS NINE COUNTIES. RIGHT AT THAT TIME, AND PROBABLY FROM 2020 TO 2022, THERE WAS A HOST OF ENGAGEMENT AND FARMERS IN A HOST OF ENGAGEMENT ACROSS THE REGION TO UNDERSTAND THOSE ISSUES.

I THINK THE SECOND POINT I WOULD MAKE IS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE FARMING COMMUNITY. I PERSONALLY WORK IN AGRICULTURAL AREAS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I THINK THE THING WE ALWAYS KNOW ABOUT FARMERS IS THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DECIDE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY.

AND EVENTUALLY ALL THEY'RE ALL FARMERS. MOST FARMERS DO EVENTUALLY SELL.

I THINK THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT FARMERS ARE NEXT IN LINE TO SELL.

AND ARE THEIR PROPERTIES LARGE ENOUGH TO SELL? WHAT'S THE PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES THEIR PROPERTY DEVELOPABLE?

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I THINK THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS MAP IS THAT IT IMPLIES WELL, THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS MAP IS THAT IT SPEAKS TO THE AREAS WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE. SO IT'S NOT AN ATTEMPT TO SAY THAT I WOULD NEVER CALL THIS ZONING IN A MILLION YEARS.

WELL, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, SIMPLY PUT, SAN PATRICIO IS SPECIAL.

THERE ARE A SET OF CHALLENGES HERE THAT YOU WILL NOT FIND IN 80% OF OTHER COUNTIES IN TEXAS.

THAT REQUIRES SOME THOUGHT. NOW, IT'S HARD BECAUSE TEXAS DOESN'T ALLOW ZONING.

I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

THERE ARE SPECIAL CHALLENGES HERE THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL THOUGHT.

I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE INTENT OF WHAT THE PLAN WAS IN THE COURT MINDSET, WHATEVER IT WAS BACK THEN, AND THE FACT THAT WE WERE BASICALLY JUST ASKING THE CITIES FOR INPUT ON WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE OUTSIDE THEIR CITIES.

IT WAS VERY SIMPLE. IT KIND OF MORPHED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE GROUP, JUDGE? OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. NO I DON'T. ONCE AGAIN I'M GOING TO SAY A COMMENT.

APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DID. I KNOW YOU DID A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS, AND IT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM.

IT'S OURS. OKAY. WILL INVESTIGATE THOSE ISSUES.

THE QUESTIONS WE WILL BROUGHT UP TO MAKE SURE.

JUDGE. OH. CAN I SUBMIT A COMMENT, OR IS IT TOO LATE? I GUESS YOU CAN NOW. YOU WANT ME TO GO UP THERE? YES, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AND COLETTE WALLS AND I LIVE IN THE EDROY AREA. JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

I, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH INDUSTRY FOR THE LAST TEN, 13 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS INDUSTRIAL PLAN FROM THE BEGINNING.

I WON'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMPANY I WORKED FOR AT THE TIME, BUT I KNOW THERE'S NEW COMMISSIONERS ON THE BOARD, AND I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED AS A RESIDENT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS INDUSTRIAL PLAN HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT SINCE GQG CAME IN. IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR THAT Y'ALL ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH IT.

ALL THE MAYORS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. TOM WAS APPOINTED NOT.

I MEAN, Y'ALL ARE BEATING HIM UP. HE'S REPRESENTING THE COMMISSIONERS WHEN I WAS WITH THE INDUSTRIES.

I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE TIME AND JUDGE, YOU WERE AWARE.

I KNOW, Y'ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WERE AWARE THAT TOM AND MAYOR ALMOND WERE GOING OUT AND SPEAKING, ASKING INDUSTRY TO HELP FUND IT BECAUSE I WAS IN THOSE MEETINGS.

I'M REALLY UPSET RIGHT NOW. AND LIKE I SAID, JUST DISAPPOINTED THE WAY THIS IS COMING OUT.

Y'ALL ARE TAKING IT OUT ON ON THE ON COMMISSIONER YARDLEY.

AND HE WAS HERE TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF SANPETE COUNTY.

THE CITY'S ASKED FOR THIS. ONE OF THE. WHEN I FIRST CAME IN, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT JUDGE EVEN TALKED ABOUT WAS MANAGE THE GROWTH. DON'T LET THE GROWTH MANAGE YOU. AND THIS INDUSTRIAL PLAN CAME OUT OF THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH Y'ALL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITIES HAVE WANTED.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE SAT HERE SINCE 2017 HAVE WON IT.

SO I THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LETTING ME COME UP AND SAY THIS.

AND I HOPE Y'ALL ALL REALLY SIT BACK AND THINK ABOUT LOOKING AND TALK TO THE MAYORS THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS AND HAVE BEEN SITTING IN THESE MEETINGS. TALK TO THE INDUSTRIES. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WERE SUPPORTING IT WHEN THE COUNTY NEEDED THE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO FUND THIS PROGRAM.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL THE CITIES AND ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO COME IN IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

ANY MORE COMMENTS? OKAY. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON THEN TO 2.4 C CONSIDERATION

[c. Consideration and action on canvassing the November 4, 2025 Constitutional Amendment Election. ]

AND ACTION ON CANVASING IN NOVEMBER FOR 2025 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTIONS.

SO BEAR WITH ME. I HAVE TO READ ALL OF THESE.

OKAY. STATE PROPOSITION NUMBER ONE. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST WAS 4762, BAR WAS

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3426 AGAINST 1336. PROPOSITION NUMBER TWO. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4737 VOTES FOR 3678 AGAINST 1059.

PROPOSITION THREE. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4732 VOTES 3421 FOR 1311 AGAINST. START STICKING TOGETHER ON. PROPOSITION FOUR. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4725 FOR 3500 AGAINST 1225. PROPOSITION FIVE. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST THAT'S 4651 FOR 3406 AGAINST 1245. PROPOSITION SIX.

TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4609. FOR 3064 AGAINST 1545. PROPOSITION NUMBER SEVEN. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4715 FOR 4227 AGAINST 488.

PROPOSITION NUMBER EIGHT. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4752 FOR 3948 AGAINST 804. PROPOSITION NUMBER NINE. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 665 FOUR 3496 AGAINST 1169.

OPPOSITION NUMBER TEN TOTAL VOTES CAST 4739 FOR 4381 AGAINST 3358. PROPOSITION NUMBER 11. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4741. FOR 4001 AGAINST 741.

PROPOSITION NUMBER 12. TOTAL VOTES CAST 4611 FOR THREE 3466 AGAINST 1145. PROPOSITION NUMBER 13. TOTAL VOTES CAST 4758 EIGHT, 4021 FOUR 737 AGAINST PROPOSITION 14. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4694 FOUR 3261 AGAINST 1433. PROPOSITION 15. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4742 OR 3974 AGAINST 768. PROPOSITION 16. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4765 FOR 4103 AGAINST 662.

PROPOSITION 17. TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST 4627.

FOUR. 3387. AGAINST 1240.

END OF REPORT. WHAT HAPPENED TO PROPOSITION 18 2017? WE DON'T KNOW. MIGHT AS WELL KEEP ON GOING. RIGHT.

I'M ON A ROLL, YOU KNOW. AND THE OTHER ENTITIES CANVASED THEIR OWN.

YEAH. THEY DID. OKAY. JUDGE, CAN I ALSO SURE, PAM, IF YOU WANT TO.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DID A MANUAL RECOUNT, WHICH IS MANDATORY BY THE STATE.

WE HAD THREE PROPOSITIONS, THREE POLLING PLACES, EARLY VOTING AND MAIL BALLOTS.

AND ALL OF OUR COUNT CAME OUT 100%. SO IT WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE TO SEE THAT WE DID

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THE MANDATORY MANUAL RECOUNT, AND I JUST I THINK I'M PROUD OF MY STAFF AND THE ELECTION EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE, THAT IT DOES THE JOB THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU MICHELLE. OKAY.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. 2.4 D IS JUSTICE CENTER AND COURTHOUSE RENOVATION PROJECT UPDATE BY JOHN HERNANDEZ.

[d. Justice Center and Courthouse Renovation project update by John A. Hernandez, P.E., County Engineer ]

COUNTY ENGINEER.

OKAY. THIS MONTH'S PAYOUT IS APPROXIMATELY $2.8 MILLION.

SO THAT BRINGS THE PROJECT COMPLETION TO ABOUT 66% COMPLETE.

JOSH SCROLLED THROUGH THE PHOTOS. THAT'D BE GREAT.

I'M WORKING ON IT.

I'LL CONTINUE ON WITH MY REPORT RIGHT NOW. ON THE THIRD FLOOR, THEY'RE CONTINUING WITH THE RECALL.

LIKE THE FIREPROOFING THE WINDOWS AND THE STONEWORK.

A STONE IS BEING PLACED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

OH, YOU CAN GO BACK THERE, JOSH. RIGHT THERE.

YOU CAN TELL RIGHT THERE THE WINDOWS AND STONE BEING PLACED.

RIGHT NOW, THE COUNTY'S TEAM IS ALSO WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT TEAM AND FULTON.

AND WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE PROJECT.

AND THAT INCLUDES, LIKE, OFFICE FURNITURE THE THE FINAL SELECTION.

WE'RE NARROWING THAT DOWN, THEN ALSO COMES DOWN TO THE FABRIC SELECTION AS WELL.

AND SO LIKE I SAID, I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS, WHENEVER YOU GET A CHANCE TO COME TO THE SITE AND TAKE A TOUR OF THAT AREA AT YOUR OWN SCHEDULE WITH US OR SCHEDULE WITH FULTON OR WHENEVER.

BUT KIND OF WE'RE GETTING THE SHEETROCK, ESPECIALLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR, IS BEING, I WOULD SAY IS ABOUT 70, 75, 80% COMPLETE ALREADY. AND SO YOU CAN GET A GOOD LAYOUT OF HOW THE OFFICE PARTITIONS ARE BEING LAID OUT.

ONE THING THAT I MENTIONED IS ALWAYS RIGHT NOW THE CRITICAL PATH.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SHOW THERE BECAUSE IT'S ON DIFFERENT PAGES. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CRITICAL PATH WHICH CONTROLS THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT IS STILL THE THIRD FLOOR.

WHAT I CALL THE HVAC SYSTEMS HEATING, AC, ELECTRICAL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT EARLY EARLY SUMMER.

I ALWAYS SAY LATE SPRING, BUT IT'S MORE LIKE EARLY SUMMER ON THAT TIME FRAME.

THAT SHOWS SHOWING THE VERY LAST PAGE THERE. JOSH? YEAH. ANYWAY THAT CONCLUDES THE JUSTICE CENTER UPDATE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. NOW TO THE THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION UPDATE.

THE COUNTY'S RECEIVED WHAT WE CALL 100% DESIGN DOCUMENTS.

SO WITH THAT, THAT MEANS THAT THE LAYOUTS OF THE FLOOR, THE FLOOR PARTITIONS WHERE ALL THE OFFICES ARE GOING TO BE, IT'S ALL BEEN ASSIGNED. IT'S ALL BEEN PRETTY MUCH LAID OUT.

RIGHT NOW, THE NEXT PHASE FOR THIS PROJECT IS AT THE THE BRW TEAM.

THE ARCHITECT TEAM IS GOING TO START WORKING ON WHAT WE CALL THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

AND THAT'S ALL THE FINAL PLANS, STANDARDS CONTRACT DOCUMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED

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BY AROUND MAY OF 2026. BUT IN THE MEANTIME FULTON IS WORKING ON SOME PRICING TO PRESENT TO THE COUNTY SINCE THEY HAVE THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE COURTHOUSE BUILDING ALREADY.

ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE HERE PROBABLY AROUND LIKE I SAID, MAY, MID-MAY OR SO FINALIZE IT. AND WE'RE STILL ANTICIPATING IN A CONSTRUCTION START DATE OF THE RENOVATION AND HERE AGAIN AROUND JUNE OF 2026. SO THAT'S STILL THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, GET THE COURTHOUSE JUSTICE CENTER COMPLETED.

THEN WE'LL MOVE THE THE JUSTICE CENTER FOLKS, I MEAN, COURTHOUSE FOLKS TO THE JUSTICE CENTER.

AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE DOWN THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION? NO.

YOU'RE DONE. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO ADVISE THE COURT.

WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE. THE COUNTY'S TEAM HAS A VERY GOOD PLAN.

WITH THE ARCHITECT TEAM AND ALSO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM.

ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION ON THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. JOHN. YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE THERE AND THEN 2.40.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WE'LL GO IN 2.4. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION.

[e. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from John Hernandez, P.E., County Engineer, on approving Cheniere's Antiquities Permit application form.]

ON A REQUEST FROM JOHN HERNANDEZ, THE COUNTY ENGINEER, ON APPROVING CHANGES.

AND IF WE ANTIQUITIES PERMIT APPLICATION FORM.

JOSH, GO DOWN TO PAGE 13. WHAT ABOUT FIBER LIGHT.

OH THAT'S NEXT. OKAY.

PAGE 13. JOSH. ALL RIGHT. THERE. THAT'S THAT'S CLOSE.

OKAY. THIS THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS THE PIPELINE.

AND SEE THE RED HIGHLIGHT. THAT'S THE COUNTY'S OLD LANDFILL.

AND THE LITTLE BLUE LINE ON THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT IS SHOWING MORE OR LESS WHERE THE PIPELINE IS GOING TO BE CROSSING THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A DISCUSSION FOR THE ANTIQUITIES PERMIT.

WE'VE IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED LIKE THAT.

SO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON THAT. NO, WE'VE HAD THE PIPELINE GO THROUGH THERE BEFORE.

THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO IT. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

IT'S THE OLD DUMP. IT'S NOT BEEN USED FOR YEARS.

EASEMENT THAT THEY HAVE THERE. RIGHT. YEAH. THERE'S AN EASEMENT THERE FOR THIS. YEAH. MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. OKAY. GOT A MOTION. MRS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ TO APPROVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER. NOW WE'RE ON THE LAST 2.4 F DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM JOHN HERNANDEZ,

[f. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from John Hernandez, County Engineer, on approving Fiberlight's request for Fiber line installation on the east side of CR 2081 and the south side of CR 2095, just south of Odem, located in Pct. 3.]

COUNTY ENGINEER, ON APPROVING FIBER LIGHT'S REQUEST FOR FIBER LINE INSTALLATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 2081, IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 2095 JUST SOUTH OF ODOM, LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE.

ALL RIGHT. THIS ONE HERE, THIS IS A THIS SHOWS THE THE THE WHOLE PROJECT LIMITS, WHICH IS SIMILAR AROUND THE NUECES RIVER BRIDGE AND HEADING NORTH ALONG 77. BUT RIGHT OFF 77, IT HITS OUR COUNTY ROAD, COUNTY ROAD TO OH, 2081.

YEAH. RIGHT THERE IT BEGINS. AND THAT FIBER LINE INSTALLATION IS GOING TO BE BORED ALONG THE COUNTY ROAD.

YOU'RE GOING TO SCROLL DOWN TO THE END. IT'S GOING TO CROSS THE RAILROAD UP ONE MORE AND THEN IT'LL TURN NORTH ALONG COUNTY ROAD 2095.

BUT THE WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THESE FIBER TYPE LINE INSTALLATIONS, THERE'S ALWAYS A, AN ENGINEERING PREPARED SET OF DRAWINGS, STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HERE, HERE AGAIN, I'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THEY CAN DO. THEY INCLUDE SAFETY THINGS ON THAT TOO.

LIKE WHEN THEY DIG HOLES, PUT STUFF AROUND THEM.

WELL, THE THEY DUG ONE IN MY FRONT YARD. LET ME GO AHEAD AND GET A SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION DOWN HERE. GOT A SECOND. SECOND.

SECOND. OKAY, GO AHEAD AND DIG A TWO FOOT HOLE.

TWO FEET WIDE. TWO FEET DEEP. I FOUND IT ABOUT 11:00 AT NIGHT IN THE DARK WHEN I TOOK MY TRASH CAN OUT TO THE STREET.

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YOU KNOW, IT CONCERNS ME WHEN COMPANIES COME IN AND DON'T COME THEMSELVES TO PRESENT IN OUR COUNTY, AND THEY PLAN ON MAKING MONEY OFF OUR CITIZENS AND SELLING THIS INTERNET SERVICE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

I KNOW WHEN IT CAME TO MY DOOR, I RUN THEM OFF.

YES, SIR. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY RECORDS.

BUT YOU CAN RELAY THAT TO THEM. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

JUST WANT TO JUST COMMENT. THE MAJORITY. ALL THE JOB IS GOING TO BE BORED.

BOARD. THE ONLY CONCERN WE MAY HAVE, AS COMMISSIONER MENTIONED, IS WE'LL MAKE THE ACTUAL TIE INS.

AND THOSE ARE THOSE JUNCTION BOXES JUST IN ONE FIELD.

SEE HOW IT FEELS? YES, SIR. JOHN, IS THERE ANY OTHER FIBER OPTICS LINE RUNNING IN THAT EASEMENT THERE THAT I'M NOT ASKING IS, YOU KNOW, TXDOT'S DOING THEIR ROUNDABOUT OF ODOM.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THAT OR VICE VERSA.

YES, SIR. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL FIBER LINES THERE, BUT I KNOW BEFORE, LIKE ANY ANY CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.

YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACTOR ALWAYS DOES A WHAT THEY CALL THE 811 LOCATE ALL THE UTILITIES.

WE HOPE THAT THAT ARE AWARE OF ON THE SYSTEM.

AND THEY COME AND MARK ALL THE LINES THERE PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY. YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU JOHN. 2.4 G DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION.

[g. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grants Manager, on TDA CFC24-0101 Saint Paul Elevated Storage Tank and Generators RFP2025-020.]

ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MELANIE COOPER, GRANTS MANAGER ON CFC.

24 0101 SAINT PAUL ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND GENERATORS RFP 2025 020 MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY SIKORSKI, SECONDED BY GILLESPIE.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? FIRST ON THIS ONE WE CAN.

WE ARE COMING TO THE COURT TODAY. WE CANNOT AWARD THIS PROJECT.

IT DID COME IN AND IT DID COME IN OVER BUDGET.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE PROJECT AND SEE HOW THE COURT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN GET A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION AND GET THAT AWARD OUT.

SO WHEN IT CAME THROUGH, WE ARE WORKING WITH TDA ON ANOTHER GRANT PROGRAM.

WE HAD 855,000 FOR CONSTRUCTION, AND THESE BIDS CAME IN A LOT HIGHER DUE TO THE TARIFFS AND WHERE WE ARE NOW TODAY.

SO LOOKING AT IT, YOU HAVE SOME OPTIONS. I LIKE THE COURT TO TELL ME HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND IT IS A GOOD PROJECT.

IT IS A NEEDED PROJECT FOR WATER OUT IN THE SAINT PAUL AREA, SO WE COULD UTILIZE OUR TDA AWARD AND USE THE 855,000 AND TO WHERE I CAN DO A SCOPE CHANGE ORDER AND WE CAN REMOVE THE GENERATORS.

THIS IS THE ONE BID FOR THE TOWERS. WE HAVE 855,000 TO DO CONSTRUCTION ON THAT.

SO WE DID. WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO COME IN HIGH.

SO WE WORKED WITH LYNN ENGINEERING. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT ON THIS. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON IT. AND THEY CAME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION.

THIS IS GOING TO BE NOT A STANDING WATER TOWER LIKE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.

IT WOULD BE A SHORTER, SMALLER, SAME SIZE GALLON, BUT IT'D BE OFF THE GROUND AS WELL.

SO THAT CAME IN A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER AS WELL.

SO WHAT WE'RE WONDERING IS IF WE COULD USE ARPA, THE ARPA FUNDS AND PUT WITH THIS HOW THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.

IF THEY'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STANDING GENERATOR OR THE THE SMALLER GENERATOR FOR THE LESSER PRICE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ON THE GENERATORS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE PROPOSAL IF WE CAN PULL THOSE UP.

JOSH ON THE GENERATORS. THE GENERATORS ARE NEEDED FOR THE WATER TOWER AS WELL.

CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ONE GENERATOR WHICH THEY TRANSPORT BACK AND FORTH ON A TO MAKE THESE WATER TOWERS WORK WHEN WHEN NEEDED.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE GENERATORS IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE LOW BID.

IT CAME IN AROUND 300,000 I BELIEVE. WE GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM.

AROUND 310,000 CAME IN AS A LOW BID ON THOSE GENERATORS, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL NEED TO THE TOWER.

BUT IN WE CAN USE THIS. WE COULD REALLOCATE THIS TO THE COG MOD FUNDS, WHICH IS A REGIONAL PROGRAM, INSTEAD OF UTILIZING THE ARPA INTEREST AND WE CAN DO A SCOPE WORK.

CHANGE ORDER WITH TDA. IT'LL TAKE US ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO GET THAT APPROVED.

WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AWARD THE GENERATORS AT THIS TIME UNTIL FUNDING WAS APPROVED, AND ENVIRONMENTAL, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO WORK THAT INTO THE FUNDS.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AS WELL.

BUT WE NEED APPROVAL TO START WORKING THOSE FUNDS IN HERE.

IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO THOSE GENERATORS, OR IF YOU WANTED TO USE ARPA INTEREST FUND AND GO AHEAD AND AWARD TODAY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE WE WE HAVE A GOOD PROJECT HERE.

WE HAVE $855,000. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ARPA INTEREST WHICH WE CAN USE AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

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AND WE HAVE THE FUNDS WHICH WE COULD USE AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE GENERATORS TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD WITH TDA, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS CONTRACTED WITH SOMEBODY BY FEBRUARY 1ST.

SO ONCE THE COURT GIVES ME A RECOMMENDATION, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO MAKE THE AWARD AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT CONTRACT GOING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. SO THE THE ADDITIONAL MONIES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE CAN MOVE OVER TO PUT THIS PROJECT FORWARD.

THEY'RE UNACCOUNTED FOR. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED AS OF THIS TIME.

THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. I WORKED WITH THAT WITH PAT AND PATRICK.

WE LOOKED AT THAT. SO THERE IS SOME ARPA FUNDS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE CAN DO IT JUST THE WAY IT IS. YES, WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY.

WE CAN AWARD BOTH OKAY. AWARD BOTH AT THE RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDING BEFORE WE CAN DO IT. I UNDERSTAND. I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO APPROVE AND WITH THE USE OF ARPA FUNDS AND TDA IN TDF. SECOND, THAT THAT WAS MY SECOND.

I HAD ALREADY SECONDED. I AMEND MY SECOND. YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. I APPRECIATE YOU SECONDING FOR ME AGAIN.

WE NEED THAT PROJECT GOING. NO NO NO NO I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

AND I DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE. OKAY. GOT AN AMENDED MOTION THAT WE USE THE FUNDS ARPA FUNDS AND ACCESS FUNDS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR TDA.

YEAH. YES, SIR. GOT IT. GET HER DONE. ANOTHER QUESTION.

I WANT TO FOLLOW THAT UP WITH JUST A FEW ON THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE STANDING TOWER.

AND SO WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE AWARD RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE TOWERS FROM THE ENGINEER WE'RE WORKING WITH.

BUT WOULD YOU ALSO LIKE TO INCLUDE THE GENERATORS WITH THE INTEREST WITH THE ARPA FUNDS AS WELL? I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO USE THE PROFOUND TDA GENERATORS AS WELL.

GENERATORS AS WELL. AND I AMEND MY SECOND TO MATCH HIS MOTION, AS AMENDED.

AMENDMENT. SECOND BY SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE TAPE TO GET.

OKAY. SHOULD I ASK FOR ANY MORE COMMENTS? NO, FOR MY UNDERSTANDING.

PLEASE STOP FOR YOUR HEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

EXACTLY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. OKAY, MA'AM, LET'S GO TO 2.48 DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM NORMA JEAN RIVERA,

[h. Discussion, consideration and action on request from Norma Jean Rivera, Human Resources Director, on the 2026 stop loss contract with Excess Reinsurance Underwriters Agency, Inc. (EX RE) for San Patricio County Employee Health Plan, effective January 1, 2026. ]

HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR ON THE 2026 STOP LOSS CONTRACT WITH EXCESS REASSURANCE UNDERWRITER AGENCY INCORPORATED FOR PATRICIA COUNTY EMPLOYEES HEALTH PLAN EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026. MOTION TO APPROVE.

ARE WE GOING TO GO HERE AGAIN? I'LL SECOND THAT SO WE CAN DISCUSS.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE.

OKAY. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL RFP FOR OUR STOP LOSS FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.

WE DID GO OUT FOR BIDS AND WE RECEIVED TWO OUR CURRENT EXCESS THREE.

AND BERKELEY, WE HAVE OUR POINT SYSTEM UP THERE.

SO YOU ALWAYS KIND OF SEE MR. WESTERBERG, OUR CONSULTANT, WENT BACK TO EXCESS AND DID SOME ADDITIONAL NEGOTIATIONS.

BILL, DO YOU WANT TO COME AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ON.

PLEASE DO. YEAH. NO, I WAS JUST TELLING HIM THAT.

PLEASE DO COME UP. PLEASE DO. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. WE'RE RECOMMENDING YOU CONTINUE WITH ACCESSORY.

THEY'RE OFFERING A $30,000 DISCOUNT ON THE PREMIUM THROUGH AN AGGREGATING SPECIFIC STOP LOSS POLICY.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ANY TIME WE'RE SAVING MONEY.

WELL, I KNOW, BUT DOES THAT NEED AN AMENDED MOTION? AMENDED MOTION? PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY. AMEND YOUR MOTION TO WHICH COMPANY WE'RE GOING TO USE.

WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY AGAIN? I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO ACCESSORY.

IT'D BE SERIOUS POINT. AMERICA INSURANCE COMPANY THROUGH EXCESS.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL SECOND THAT. YES, THAT. THAT COMPANY.

OKAY. YEAH. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A HAND GRENADE.

YOU DON'T JUMP ON IT UNTIL YOU KNOW YOU CAN THROW IT AWAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

UNANIMOUS. OKAY. OKAY. 2.4 DISCUSSION AND AN UPDATE ON ROAD SUPERINTENDENT

[i. Discussion and update on the Road Superintendent System and the status of hiring a Road System Administrator that was approved 23 June, 2025. Tabled from the November 10, 2025 Commissioners Court Meeting.]

SYSTEM. AND THE STATUS OF HIRING A ROAD SUPERINTENDENT ADMINISTRATOR.

THAT WAS APPROVED 23RD JANUARY. JUNE 2025. MOVE TO BRING IT BACK ON THE TABLE, YOUR HONOR.

SECOND. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YEARLY, TO RETURN TO THE TABLE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION PASSES.

OKAY. THE. MISS RIVERA, YOU MIGHT NEED TO COME UP HERE WITH ME TO AS WELL ON JUNE THE 23RD.

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FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE MINUTES AND EVERYTHING, WE JUST APPROVED THE POSITION.

CORRECT? CORRECT. NO JOB DESCRIPTION HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR WRITING OR ANYTHING.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, RIGHT? IN JUNE WHEN Y'ALL HAD THE DISCUSSION, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT CAME BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, IT WAS TAKEN OUT. AND THEN THE LAST DAY BEFORE WE WENT AHEAD AND FILED FOR THE BUDGET, THE COURT WENT AHEAD AND ASKED FOR THE MONEY TO BE PLACED ON THERE FOR 2026.

SO BY THEN, IF THE COURT DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH WITH THE PROGRAM, THE MONEY WOULD BE ALREADY ALLOCATED THERE.