[00:00:02] REMAIN. REMAIN SEATED REAL QUICK. AFTER THE LOSS. MOST OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT THE LOSS OF A GREAT CITIZEN HERE IN TAFT. I MEAN, IT'S SINTON, GREAT CITIZEN FOR THE COUNTY, A CIVIC LEADER HERE FOR THIS SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. LEROY MOODY PASSED AWAY SATURDAY NIGHT. YOU KNOW, LEROY DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. 55 YEARS HE WAS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER. OUT OF THOSE 55 YEARS, 30 OF THOSE YEARS, HE WAS OUR SHERIFF FOR HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND HE MOVED PEOPLE AND GOT PEOPLE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS HERE IN SINTON AND TEMPERATURE COUNTY. I DON'T THINK THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF REALIZED BEING A CIVIC LEADER. HE STARTED A LIONS CLUB HERE IN THE CITY OF SINTON. AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T SEE HOMER HERE. I KNOW HOMER IS A MEMBER STILL OF THAT LIONS CLUB. WE HAVE MOST OF THE LIONS CLUB MEMBERS THAT WERE HE STARTED IN THAT CLUB WERE ACTUALLY EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY AND STUFF. SO IT IS A LOSS, BELIEVE ME, FOR THIS COUNTY. YOU KNOW, WE NEVER WANT IT TO HAPPEN, BUT THE GOOD LORD LETS US KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ALL OF US ONE DAY. WE'RE NOT GUARANTEED TO STAY ON THIS EARTH FOREVER AND STUFF. SO WHEN A PERSON LIKE LEROY IS TAKEN AWAY FROM US, WE REALIZE THAT THE GOOD LORD WANTS HIM UP IN HEAVEN TO DO SOME WORK. PROBABLY UP THERE IN OSCAR CAN VOUCH FOR THIS. HE'S WORKING ON LAW ENFORCEMENT THIS MORNING IN LEROY. DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, LEROY? I MEAN, OSCAR, REAL QUICK. THANK YOU. JUDGE. YES? I CAME TO SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY IN 1977 HE WAS MADE CHIEF DEPUTY. AND THEN I WAS WITH DPS AND THEN THE RANGERS, AND I NEVER LEFT SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, SO HE WAS STILL WITH MY BACK DOOR ANYTIME I NEEDED HIM. AND SO WHEN I RETIRED FROM THE RANGERS, HE ASKED ME TO COME AS A CHIEF DEPUTY AND WAS A PRIVILEGE TO WORK FOR HIM. SO HE WAS A A FRIEND, A VERY GOOD FRIEND. I WAS HE WAS A GUY THAT I WENT TO WHEN I HAD A PROBLEMS, NO MATTER IF IT WAS A STATE PROBLEM OR A COUNTY PROBLEM. HE KNEW HE KNEW THE ANSWERS. AND I'LL MISS HIM. I'LL MISS MY FRIEND. THANK YOU. WE'LL ALL MISS HIM. THANK YOU. SHERIFF. OKAY WE'LL GO AHEAD AND STAND, PLEASE. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGES BACK. THEY'LL NEED A COPY OF THAT. THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE MEETING THIS MORNING IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S COVERED AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS I THINK ANSWERED THIS MORNING. INSTEAD OF GOING ON INTO CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, WE'RE GOING TO DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT. [a. Presentation and discussion by Peter Zanoni, City Manager for the City of Corpus Christi, regarding the Evangeline Groundwater Project with Corpus Christi Water.] WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TO ITEM 2.4 ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION BY PETER ZANONI, CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, REGARDING THE EVANGELINE GROUNDWATER PROJECT WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS WATER. PETER, WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND YES, JUDGE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE THIS MORNING. AND AS THE JUDGE SAID, I'M PETER ZANONI, THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. AND WE'RE HERE THIS MORNING. WE'VE MET WITH A FEW OF THE COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY. WE MET MET WITH JUDGE KREBS AND AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ RECENTLY. BUT WE'RE HERE TO TALK TO THE FULL COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S HERE ON THE EVANGELINE WATER PROJECT. AND SO MANY OF YOU, PROBABLY THE PROBABLY EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS HEARD OF EVANGELINE BEFORE, AND THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING THE WATER RIGHTS AND EVENTUALLY PRODUCING WATER FROM THE EVANGELINE ON THE PROPERTY OF THE WELDER, THE WELDER RANCH. SO TODAY WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT INFORMATION, BUT WE WANT AN EXCHANGE. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL. [00:05:02] I'M GOING TO PRESENT ABOUT HALF THE PRESENTATION AND THEN NICK, OUR OUR INTERIM CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR CORPUS CHRISTI WATER. WE'LL GET INTO THE MORE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE WATER PROJECT. AS WELL, WE DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE RYAN GROBARCZYK, OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS DIRECTOR. HE'S HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE A TEAM OF OF SUPPORTERS HERE WITH US AS WELL. DEBBIE. LINDSAY. OPAL. WE HAVE JOHN CHISHOLM. SORRY, JOHN BLANK, JOHN CHISHOLM, AND THEN WE HAVE JOHN MICHAEL. JOHN MICHAEL KNOWS THE AREA. WELL IN FACT, HE'S DRILLED THE WELLS THAT ARE HERE TODAY. HE SAID HE'S 40 YEARS IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS MORNING. MR. MICHAEL. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS JUST JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT. WITH IT. WE'RE JUST ABOUT A HALF HOUR OR SO AWAY. WE DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FORUMS, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OVER THIS NEXT MONTH TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RECENTLY, AND THEN THE CITY OF SINTON AND THE SAINT PAUL WATER CORPORATION WILL CONSIDER THEM AS WELL. AND THEN NICK WILL TALK TO US ABOUT THE GULF COAST AQUIFER AND OUR EVANGELINE GROUNDWATER PROJECT SPECIFICALLY. SO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, WITH THE EIGHTH LARGEST IN TEXAS, EIGHTH LARGEST CITY IN TEXAS. AND WE CONSIDER OURSELVES YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LARGEST ENTITIES IN THIS REGION. AND WITH THAT COMES RESPONSIBILITY. WE'RE NOT SHY ABOUT GOING OUT AND HELPING CITIES AND TOWNS AND COMMUNITIES IF THEY NEED IT. SO WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. WE HAVE ABOUT 316,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY, AND WE'RE A FULL SERVICE CITY ORGANIZATION. WE HAVE THE MAYOR AND EIGHT COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE HAVE 28 LINES OF BUSINESS. OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED WAS 1.4 BILLION. AND THAT'S FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT JUST BEGAN ON OCTOBER 1ST. NOW, IN THOSE 28 LINES OF BUSINESS, PROBABLY NOT PROBABLY. BUT OUR BIGGEST LINE OF BUSINESS IS WATER IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET SIZE, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THE REGIONAL RESPONSIBILITY. SO OUR WATER DEPARTMENT ISN'T JUST A JUST A WATER DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY. WE'RE A REGIONAL WATER PROVIDER, PLANNER AND DISTRIBUTOR. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MAP HERE WITH THOSE LITTLE CALL OUT RED BUTTONS THERE. WE SERVE SEVEN DIFFERENT COUNTIES IN OUR REGION. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WATER SECURITY AND WATER SOURCES, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF CORPUS CHRISTI OR BUSINESSES OR LARGE VOLUME USERS. IT'S FOR THE REGION. AND SO IN NUECES COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, BUT OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE BISHOP AND DRISCOLL IN BEE COUNTY, BEEVILLE IS ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS. THROUGH WATER RIGHTS AT THE LAKE AND JIM WELLS, ALICE STILL GETS WATER FROM US. LIVE OAK AT THE STATE PARK AT CHOKE CANYON IS ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS IN THIS COUNTY HERE. THE BIGGEST THE NEXT BIGGEST CITY IN THE REGION, PORTLAND, IS THE WATER CUSTOMER. INGLESIDE, GREGORY. ODEM. TAFT AND MATHIS, ALL WATER CUSTOMERS RIGHT NOW OF THE CITY THROUGH THE WATER CORPORATION. AND THEN ARANSAS, ROCKPORT AND FULTON AND ARANSAS PASS. GET WATER FROM THE CITY AND THEN KLEBERG COUNTY, KINGSVILLE AND RICARDO. AND SO OUR JOB IS IS BIG IN THAT WE'RE A UNIQUE WATER ENTITY. SOME OF OUR SISTER SISTER DEPARTMENTS, IF YOU WILL LIKE IN IN AUSTIN OR DALLAS, THEY JUST PRETTY MUCH SERVE THOSE CITIES. WE HAVE A REGIONAL RESPONSIBILITY NOT JUST TO PLAN FOR WATER AND PRODUCE IT, BUT THEN DISTRIBUTE IT TO THESE SEVEN DIFFERENT COUNTIES. SO ABOUT 500,000 PEOPLE EVERY DAY IN THOSE SEVEN COUNTIES RELY ON US IN OUR WATER. SO WE KNOW AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IT. THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS WE NEED MORE WATER. WE'RE IN A DROUGHT OF RECORD, ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T DECLARE IT UNTIL THE DROUGHT IS OVER. BUT WE KNOW THIS DROUGHT THAT WE'RE IN IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. AND PROBABLY EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DROUGHT, WE'D BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF OUR GROWING REGION, BOTH FROM AN INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNT. WE WE NEED MORE WATER. AND THE EVANGELINE PROJECT HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR, I THINK, 40 YEARS. JOHN MICHAEL SHOWED ME SOME OF THE EARLIER DOCUMENTS. SO THIS IS NOT A NEW SOURCE. IT'S JUST TAKEN US 40 YEARS TO, TO GET TO THIS POINT. AND THERE'S BEEN VARIOUS ITERATIONS ALONG THE WAY. THE. THE LAST, LAST TIME WE WORKED WITH THE WELDER AND WATER OWNERS OF EVANGELINE WAS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND THAT WAS A DIFFERENT BUSINESS ARRANGEMENT WHERE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT. THE ONE WE'RE WORKING ON NOW IS A WATER, RIGHT. SO WE WOULD BUY THE WATER RIGHTS AND THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DRILLING AND THE PRODUCTION AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM. [00:10:05] SO TODAY'S PRESENTATION THAT NICK WILL TALK MORE ABOUT IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL. AND ON THIS SLIDE HERE, THESE ARE FOCUSED MOSTLY IN THIS COUNTY IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. ALTHOUGH THE SENTENCE THE EXCUSE ME THE ROCKPORT, WE KNOW THAT'S IN ARANSAS COUNTY, BUT WE KIND OF BASH IT UP IN THIS ONE. BUT THIS THIS ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS HERE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THREE TIMES AS MANY AS THIS WHERE WE'LL BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH WATER DISTRICTS, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY COMMISSIONERS, COURTS AND SO ON, AND CITY COUNCILS. AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY AT SAN PATRICIO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE. WE ASKED THE JUDGE WE ASKED YOU TO BE COULD WE COME HERE TODAY AT YOUR AGENDA? AND WE APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US SPEAK TODAY. TODAY ALSO, THE SAN PATRICIO MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, LED BY LED BY BRIAN WILLIAMS, WILL BE WORKING WITH HIM AS HE'S ONE OF OUR STRONGEST PARTNERS. BUT WE'LL CONTINUE THE DIALOG OF HOW CAN WE INTEGRATE THE EVANGELINE WATER INTO HIS INTO HIS PIPE SYSTEM AT THE WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE DRESDEN CUTOFF. AND THEN WE'LL BE AT THE STATE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY. I'VE GONE TO THAT FOR SIX YEARS IN A ROW, BUT THIS YEAR IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND JUDGE KREBS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO GIVE US A FEW MINUTES JUST TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR PROJECT. AND SO WE APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. JUDGE. WE KNOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT IMPORTANT EVENT. WE WILL BE GOING TO THE CITY OF ROCKPORT. NICK AND I WILL BE FOR THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I RECENTLY MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER OF ROCKPORT AND INGLESIDE GREGORY AND TAFT AND A MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION, AND THEY EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT NOT REALLY KNOWING MUCH ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT WATER. AND SO WE SAID, WE'LL COME AND TALK TO YOU THEN. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE CITY OF ROCKPORT ON NOVEMBER 12TH, AND THEN THE CITY OF SINTON. THE MAYOR WILL BE PUTTING US ON THEIR AGENDA FOR THE 18TH AND THEN NOVEMBER 24TH. IT SAYS THE 20TH UP THERE, BUT WE CHANGED THAT TO THE 24TH TO MAKE SURE THE SENTENCE CITY MANAGER MR. JOHN COULD BE THERE WITH US. SO THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, A BIG CITY OR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SESSION WHERE WE'LL BE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND WE'LL BE THERE, ALL OF OUR EXPERTS TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED. RIGHT. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB AND PROVIDING GOOD INFORMATION AND TALKING TO YOU ABOUT ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS WE KNOW THE MEDIA WILL BE COVERING US AS WELL. ONE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS SETTING UP A WEBSITE JUST FOR THE EVANGELINE PROJECT. THE CITY ALREADY HAS A WEBSITE, BUT WHENEVER THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT, WE'LL SET UP A SEPARATE PAGE, IF YOU WILL. AND SO WE WILL BE SETTING UP ONE. SO IF YOU MISS ANY ONE OF THESE MEETINGS AND YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS THE EVANGELINE AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TIMELINES, WE'LL HAVE A WEBSITE THAT'LL BE COMING UP WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR SO. NEXT 1 OR 2 WEEKS WE'LL HAVE THE PROJECT SCHEDULE. WE'LL HAVE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. WHERE ARE WE? ALONG THE CONTINUUM. THEN WE'RE GOING TO PLACE WATER QUALITY INFORMATION. WE'LL TALK ABOUT AQUIFER INFORMATION AND ANALYSIS, SOME OF WHICH NICK WILL GO OVER TODAY. WE'LL HAVE RECENT NEWS AND PUBLIC INFORMATION ON THIS WEBSITE AS WELL. SO THAT'LL BE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. JUST ONE MORE TOOL TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC. AND THESE AREN'T ALL OF THE WAYS WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO COMMISSIONERS COURTS AND CITY'S COUNCIL MEETINGS AND HAVING A WEBSITE IF IT TAKES SMALL GROUP MEETINGS. WE'RE WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. PART OF OUR JOB IN THIS BUSINESS IS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE GOOD INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE THAT QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT, THEN YOU THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR AND MISINFORMATION. AND THAT'S ON US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB EXPLAINING IT. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE ALREADY MADE SOME GOOD HEADWAY HERE LOCALLY. WE MET WITH JUDGE KREBS. WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER, AND WE SPENT A SUNDAY, A COUPLE OF HOURS IN THE SAINT PAUL WATER CORPORATION TALKING TO THEIR GENERAL MANAGER AND SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND SOME CONCERNED RESIDENTS AS WELL. AND SO FROM THAT CAME AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO OR SO IN THEIR LAST MEETING. AND WE'RE PROUD OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY THAT THE CITY OF SINTON WORKED WITH US TO DEVELOP IT. THERE'S NO CHANGES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY THEM OR THE SAINT PAUL WATER CORPORATION. SO THE COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL, CORPUS CHRISTI CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED IT. AND NOW WE'LL BE GOING TO THE CITY OF SINTON TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION, THE CITY COUNCIL AND AS WELL THE SAINT PAUL WATER WATER CORPORATION. WHEN THEY HAVE A BOARD MEETING, WE'LL GO THERE TO PRESENT THEM AS WELL. SO THE AGREEMENT IS SUCH THAT IT PROVIDES PROTECTION. AND THEN WE PUT IN SOME ADDITIONAL GOOD NEIGHBOR CLAUSES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, EVEN THOUGH IT COULD COST THE CITY MONEY. THAT'S PART OF DOING BUSINESS. AND SO THE FIRST PART OF THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SAYS THAT FOR THE CITY OF SINTON THAT HAS THREE MUNICIPAL WELLS, [00:15:02] AND THEN THEY HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THE WELL, THAT'S ON THE GOLF GOLF FIELDS THERE AT THE WELDER PARK. THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO EITHER WATER QUALITY OR QUANTITY BECAUSE OF OUR EVANGELINE PROJECT, THAT THE CITY AT OUR EXPENSE WILL REMEDY THAT. SO THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT SAYS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, BECAUSE OF OUR PROJECT, WITH THEIR WATER QUALITY OR QUANTITY IS, IS COMPROMISED, THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. WE'RE GOING TO REMEDY IT AT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI'S EXPENSE. THEN WE PUT A GOOD NEIGHBOR CLAUSE IN, AND WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN AND ENGINEER AND THEN BUILD WHAT WE'RE CALLING AN INTERCONNECT PIPE OR SYSTEM, SO THAT WHEN OUR WELL FIELDS CONSTRUCTED, THERE'LL BE AN INTERCONNECT PIPE WITH A VALVE SO THAT IF ONE OF THE WELLS IN SINTON GOES DOWN FOR A MECHANICAL OR OTHER REASON UNRELATED TO OUR EVANGELINE PROJECT, THE CITY OF SINTON CAN ELECT TO TURN ON THE INTERCONNECT AND GET WATER FROM US FREE. AND WE PUT IN THE AGREEMENT FOR 60 DAYS. THEY SAID THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME. THE CITY, THE CORPORATION OF SAINT PAUL WATER CORPORATION, WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. SO I THINK WE HAVE 90 DAYS FOR THEM. JUST IT MAY TAKE THEM A LITTLE LONGER TO GET PART. SO SO IT PROTECTS THE COMMUNITY OF SINTON IN THAT ANYTHING HAPPENING BECAUSE OF OUR PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO REMEDY IT AT OUR EXPENSE. AND THEN IT PROVIDES AN ADDED GOOD NEIGHBOR BENEFIT, WHICH IS THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THAT WELL, SYSTEM UNRELATED TO OURS, HOURS, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET FREE WATER FOR 60 DAYS OR 90, DEPENDING ON WHAT ENTITY IT IS. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PART OF THE PRESENTATION. BUT I DID JUST WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING. AS THE CITY MANAGER REPRESENTING THE CITY, I'M APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR THEM, WHICH IS THAT OUR JOB HERE IN THIS PROJECT IS ONE WHERE WE HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE. THERE'S NO NICK IS, I THINK, A HYDRO STUDY. GEOLOGICAL ENGINEERING. NICK'S A GEOLOGICAL ENGINEER. IF YOU I DON'T KNOW WHO WAKES UP AND SAYS I'M GOING TO DO THAT FOR A LIVING, BUT BUT. SO NICK IS AN EXPERT IN THIS. I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN HYDROGEOLOGY OR GEOLOGY, BUT WHAT I HAVE HEARD THE EXPERTS SAY IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH GROUNDWATER, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO STUDY THAT CAN BE DONE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WATER IS THERE, HOW MUCH CAN YOU, HOW MUCH CAN YOU PRODUCE FOR HOW LONG IT HAS TO. THE DATA COMES FROM ACTUALLY PRODUCING THE WATER. AND SO UNTIL YOU DRILL, UNTIL YOU HAVE PUMPING. ANALYSIS ON WATER QUALITY, AVAILABILITY. YOU REALLY CAN'T DETERMINE WITH CERTAINTY THE EXTENT OF THE AQUIFER. AND SO THERE ARE THERE IS INFORMATION TODAY BASED ON INITIAL DRILL LOGS. THE CITY OF SINTON FOR SURE. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BIGGER PROJECT LIKE THE ONE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT'S WHEN MORE DATA WILL BECOME AVAILABLE AND THEN MORE CERTAINTY WILL BE AVAILABLE IN TERMS OF PRODUCTION. AND SO I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT THE CITY IS READY TO ADJUST OUR PROGRAM IF WE NEED TO. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLANNING ON PRODUCING 24 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. AND THIS IS NOT EVERY DAY FROM NOW TILL, YOU KNOW, TILL WHENEVER. IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERMITTENT SOURCE OF WATER. OUR JOB AT THE CITY IS TO HAVE MORE DIVERSE WATER SOURCES, DIVERSIFICATION. SO WE CAN TURN ONE WATER SOURCE ON ONE DAY AND TURN THE OTHER ONE OFF THE SAME DAY. AND SO IN THIS AREA, THE GROUNDWATER IS A RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE DROUGHT AND BOTH OF OUR WESTERN RESERVOIRS ARE EXTREMELY DRY. THIS WOULD BE A PREDOMINANT WATER SOURCE. BUT WHEN OUR WESTERN RESERVOIRS FILL BACK UP AGAIN AND THEY WILL ONE DAY, WE CAN NOT RELY SO MUCH ON THE GROUNDWATER AND WE CAN TURN OFF A FEW OF THE WELLS. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT AS WE GET DATA, WE'RE GOING TO ADJUST OUR PROGRAM. AND SO IF WE SEE THAT, HEY, WELLS ARE HAVING AN IMPACT IN THE REGION, WHETHER IT'S A RANCHER OR FARMER OR THE CITY OF SINTON, WE HAVE TO BE COMMITTED TO ADJUSTING OUR PROGRAM. WE'RE NOT HERE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO 24 MILLION. WE DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THE BULL IN THE CHINA SHOP. WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. WE'RE JUST UP THE ROAD, AND WE WILL ADJUST OUR PROGRAM AS NECESSARY. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE. I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO HEAR AND THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THIS GROUNDWATER, GIVEN THE NATURE OF GROUNDWATER OVERALL. SO WITH THAT NEXT, I'M NICK'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT NOW ABOUT THE ACTUAL AQUIFER AND THE DIFFERENCES. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART. AND WHAT NICK WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT GIVES US CONFIDENCE IN THAT WE WON'T BE DISRUPTING PERSONS WHO HAVE ENTITIES THAT HAVE WELLS AND THE 2 TO 300 FOOT DEPTH. OUR WELLS ARE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 800. AND BETWEEN THOSE WELLS ARE LAYERS OF CLAY THAT SEPARATES THE WATER SEPARATES THE AQUIFER. SO NICK WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN BOTH HE AND I, AS WELL AS RYAN, WILL BE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. PETER. [00:20:10] JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. NICK WINKELMAN I'M THE INTERIM CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF CORPUS CHRISTI WATER, AND IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE AQUIFERS. THE GULF COAST AQUIFER ITSELF IS AN EXTENSIVE AQUIFER. IT RANGES FROM LOUISIANA THROUGH THROUGH THE TEXAS GULF COAST THROUGH THE COASTAL BEND. THIS IS A WIDE AND BROAD AQUIFER. THE AQUIFER ITSELF CONSISTS OF OF MANY LAYERS AND MANY FORMATIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ON THE CHART. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT I LIKE TO BRING UP, IS JUST THE AGE OF THE AQUIFER ITSELF. OF COURSE, THE WELLS IN THE FOR THE EVANGELINE PROJECT, WE WILL BE TARGETING THE LOWER CHICO AQUIFER IN THE UPPER EVANGELINE AQUIFER. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CHICO AQUIFER, THE ESTIMATED AGE IS 3.8 MILLION YEARS, WHERE THE EVANGELINE AQUIFER, DEPENDING UPON WHAT DEPTH, IS ANYWHERE FROM 11 TO 17 MILLION YEARS OLD. SO IT'S QUITE AN EXTENSIVE AQUIFER SYSTEM. THE IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE OUTCROP OF THESE FORMATIONS IS TO THE NORTH. EACH OF THE FORMATIONS DOWN DIP TO THE TO THE GULF COAST. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE FORMATION ITSELF, CONSISTING OF UNCONSOLIDATED SAND AND GRAVELS, IS RECHARGED FROM SURFACE WATER NORTH AND IT FLOWS DOWNWARD OR DOWN DIP TO THE TO THE GULF COAST. I JUMPED AHEAD I SORT OF LED INTO THIS SLIDE A LITTLE BIT. I GUESS I KNEW WHAT WAS COMING, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE THE ESTIMATED RECHARGE OF THE AQUIFER. THAT'S THE CHART ON THE LEFT. AND THEN WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THE OCCURRENCE OF FRESH WATER IN THE AQUIFER, WHICH IS THE CHART ON THE RIGHT. AND THE ONE THING ABOUT THE EVANGELINE LOCATION IS THE WATER QUALITY IS A LITTLE BETTER. IT'S CERTAINLY BETTER THAN THE WELLS THAT WE ARE CONSTRUCTING IN NUECES COUNTY. SO LOCATION IS IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO HOME BUYING. IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO DRILLING A WELL AND AQUIFERS ALSO. AND I'LL SHOW YOU SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE. THE THE IMPORTANT NOTE THERE AS WELL REGARDING LOCATION. BUT YOU CAN SEE THESE THESE AQUIFERS RECHARGE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE DEPTHS THAT THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED. THIS IS NOT AN IMMEDIATE RECHARGE ZONE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU GET A HEAVY RAIN UP IN SINTON, THAT IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT AN 800 FOOT WELL THAT IS SCREENED, LET'S SAY, FROM 500FT TO 800FT. AND THE REASON IS IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT FORMATIONS AND THOSE LAYERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. BUT PRIMARILY IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CLAY LAYERS. THERE ARE CLAY LAYERS THAT SEPARATE THESE TARGETED FORMATIONS AND THEY ACT AS CONFINING LAYERS THAT PREVENTS WATER MOVEMENT OR WATER INTERACTION FROM FROM THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAYERS. THE WORKING WITH OUR HYDROGEOLOGISTS. THE CITY'S GOAL ON ALL OF THIS IS TO NOT IMPACT RESIDENTIAL LIVESTOCK WELLS. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE CASE DOWN TO A CERTAIN DEPTH. WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE CLAY LAYERS. WE SET CASING AND CEMENT IT TO SEAL OFF THOSE UPPER LAYERS SO THAT THE PRODUCTION ZONES FROM THESE WELLS DO NOT IMPACT THE THE AREA GEOLOGY. SO I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LOCATION AND WHAT MAKES THIS PROJECT UNIQUE IS ITS LOCATION TO THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE. I THINK MOST OF US ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE. IN MY OPINION. IT'S CERTAINLY THE MOST TALKED ABOUT PIPELINE IN TEXAS. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST TALKED ABOUT PIPELINES. IT RANKS UP THERE IN THE COUNTRY AS WELL. AND ONE OF THE REASONS I KNOW THAT IS JUST THIS PAST YEAR THE CITY WAS PRESENTED AN INFRASTRUCTURE AWARD FOR ITS CONDITION ASSESSMENT WORK ON THE RAILROADS PIPELINE. THAT WAS A NATIONAL AWARD. SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED ABOUT THAT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PIPELINE TRAVELS ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE EVANGELINE WATER PROJECT. THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOW WATER TO BE INPUTTED INTO THE PIPELINE AND CONVEYED TO THE ONE WATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND ITS CUSTOMERS. [00:25:01] THAT'S THE OWENS STEVENS WATER TREATMENT PLANT. THE THE PROJECT ITSELF THE EVANGELINE PROJECT ITSELF IS GROUNDWATER RIGHTS FOR 789 ACRES OF LAND, WHICH ROUGHLY EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY 24 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. AS THE CITY MANAGER STATED, WHENEVER YOU ARE OPERATING A WELL FIELD, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DATA OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT WE HAVE. AND WHAT WE'VE ANALYZED ARE HYDROGEOLOGISTS AND TERROR INCORPORATED. THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A VERY ROBUST GROUNDWATER MODEL AS EACH WELL IS DRILLED AND AS EACH WELL IS TESTED, AN AQUIFER TEST IS CONDUCTED MEASURING BOTH FLOWS AND THE WATER LEVELS IN THE AQUIFER. THAT'S DONE WITH NOT JUST THE PRODUCTION WELL, BUT ALSO MONITORING WELLS. THAT DATA IS THEN INPUTTED INTO THE MODEL, AND THAT ALONE ALLOWS US TO ESTIMATE IMPACTS, SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW FAR APART THE WELLS SHOULD BE FROM EACH OTHER. THE DIRECTION THE WELLS SHOULD BE FROM EACH OTHER AND ALLOWS US TO MANAGE THAT WELL FIELD PROPERLY IN THE FUTURE. THE PROJECT ITSELF WILL CONSIST OF. THERE'S TWO EXISTING PRODUCTION WELLS ON THE PROPERTY. 22 NEW WELLS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT 24 WELLS WILL BE OPERATING ALL AT THE SAME TIME EVERY SINGLE DAY, RIGHT? THERE'S A MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL THAT WILL BE PUT INTO PLACE SO THAT THE WELL FIELD CAN BE MANAGED AND PRODUCTION CAN BE REVIEWED, AND ANALYSIS CAN BE OBTAINED. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW. THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT'S GOING ON IS WE'VE GOT THE CITY ITSELF HAS THEIR DUE DILIGENCE EFFORTS. THAT'S A REVIEW OF BOTH THE THE ENGINEERING FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT, THE HYDROGEOLOGIC FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT AND ITS ALSO CONDUCTING PRE-ENGINEERING. THERE'S SOME VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. ONE OF THOSE IS THE CONNECTION POINT TO THE PIPELINE. AS AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONVEYANCE OF THAT WATER TO OWEN STEVENS IS HYPER CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT. ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND POWER IS A CRITICAL NEED. SO OUR ENGINEERING PARTNERS WE'VE ASSEMBLED A GREAT TEAM. WE'VE GOT PAPE DAWSON ENGINEERS, HANSEN ENGINEERS. AND LIKE I TALKED ABOUT IN TARA ALONG WITH HDR. SO WE HAVE FOUR HIGHLY RESPECTED ENGINEERING FIRMS WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT. THEY ARE INVOLVED WITH AEP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE POWER NEEDED TO OPERATE THE WELLS. AND AND TO TIME IT RIGHT, SO WE CAN GET GET WATER AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION EFFORTS ONGOING. THOSE COORDINATION EFFORTS LIKE THE CITY MANAGER SAID, ARE CERTAINLY WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE REGION, THE CITY OF SINTON, SAINT PAUL WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION ADDITIONALLY, WE WANT TO WORK WITH OTHER LANDOWNERS. NOW, THOSE THOSE ARE STEEL DYNAMICS IS A LANDOWNER, OF COURSE, BUT ALSO RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS AS WELL, PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CITY IS IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH ALL THESE ENTITIES AND HELP MONITOR WATER LEVELS IN THEIR WELL TO GET BASELINE DATA, THAT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE WILL INPUT THAT INTO THE HYDROGEOLOGIC MODEL THAT INTEGRA IS PUTTING TOGETHER, AND THAT'LL HELP US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND ANY IMPACTS TO THE AQUIFER. AND IT'LL HELP US MANAGE THE RESOURCE IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS CRITICAL. AND THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. WITH THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS COMMENTS. WELL I MEAN IT'S IT'S GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD RUBEN. NO I HAD A QUESTION. DO WE HAVE A FUND SET ASIDE FOR YOU TALKED ABOUT WELLS BEING AT THE 300 MARK AND THEN Y'ALL AT THE 800 FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME SOME KIND OF MONEY. NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE RESOURCE TO GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, I NEED $20,000 TO POP ANOTHER. WELL, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING SET IN PLACE FOR THAT? YES. SO WE WE'RE SHORT ANSWER IS WE'RE WORKING ON IT. SO WITH THE THERE WAS NOT A FUND SET UP IN THE CITY BUDGET WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER. [00:30:02] SO WITH THE THE PROGRESS OF THESE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON SETTING UP SO THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MITIGATE ANY ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN CAUSED FROM OUR, WELL, OPERATIONS. WHAT'S IMPORTANT, THOUGH, IS, YOU KNOW, DATA IS CRITICAL. IT'S CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BEFORE WE JUST GO AND TRY AND CORRECT SOMETHING. THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM, IT MAY HAPPEN AGAIN. AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSED FROM THE OPERATION OF THE WELLS ON THE EVANGELINE PROPERTY. SO WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE ENTITIES TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH, YEAH. COMMISSIONER. SO IN MY OPENING COMMENTS, YOU MAY RECALL ME TALKING ABOUT A PRIOR BUSINESS MODEL THAT WE HAD FOR EVANGELINE THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY PAPE DAWSON, AND PAPE DAWSON IS ON THIS TEAM AGAIN. AND THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM, WHICH WAS TO TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT AND THE TOTAL BUDGET MONIES WERE, SET ASIDE IN THAT IN THAT PLAN BUDGET FOR THESE REMEDIES OR DAMAGES. AND SO AS WE DEVELOP THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT THAT WILL BE FUNDED BY ALL OF OUR RATEPAYERS. THERE WILL BE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. AND OUR WORK WITH THE SAINT PAUL WATER CORPORATION. THERE, THERE. THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE LESS NIMBLE, I GUESS, THAN THE CITY OF SINTON. AND SO THEY ASKED IN THE FUTURE, CAN WE RELY ON CORPUS CHRISTI WATER OR THE CITY FOR THINGS LIKE GRANTS? UNRELATED TO OUR WELLFIELDS JUST BEING, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING A RESOURCE IF THEY NEEDED TEMPORARY FUNDS TO ADDRESS THEIR WATER SYSTEM, AND WE TOLD THEM ABSOLUTELY WE'D BE WE'D BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. STEVE. WELL, MY BASIC CONCERN IS THAT CITY COUNCILS ARE IN OFFICE EVERY TWO YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST I'VE LIVED IN, IN THIS AREA FOR THE LAST 36 YEARS SINCE I RETIRED FROM THE NAVY, AND I DID LIVE IN CORPUS, AND I'VE SEEN MANY THINGS WITH CORPUS CHRISTI BEING FORGOTTEN AS THESE DEALS ARE CUT AND THEN THEY FORGET ABOUT IT. YOU GOT A NEW COUNCIL COMING IN, GOING OUT EVERY TWO YEARS. I MEAN, YOU CAN WRITE THINGS DOWN, BUT THINGS GET LOST. YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN WATER WELLS ALONG THE RIVER THAT WERE DRILLED BACK IN THE 60S. I STUMBLED OVER 1 IN 1 OF MY PARKS ONE DAY, AND YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST SIT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT THEM IN AND THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED OR MATTER OF FACT, MOST PEOPLE DIDN'T FROM CORPUS, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THOSE WELLS WERE ALREADY DUG ON OUR SIDE IN OUR COUNTY PARK. DO YOU HAVE A HERNIA, WHICH IS 1000 ACRES OVER THERE ALONG THE RIVER, HAS TWO WELLS IN IT OVER THERE THAT WERE DUG BY CORPUS CHRISTI IN THE 60S. SO, YOU KNOW, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS CITY COUNCIL'S CHANGE AND DEALS THAT WERE CUT BACK THEN. WHILE THEY GET CHANGED TOO? YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN AND A REAL ONE. SO I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN THE CITY MANAGER IN, IN CORPUS CHRISTI FOR SIX AND A HALF, SEVEN YEARS. AND ONE THING WE WE'RE STILL ONE THING WE STRIVE ON INITIALLY AND WE CONTINUE TO DO IS, IS INSTITUTIONALIZING DEALS LIKE THIS, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT INCLUDES HAVING A LOT OF, A LOT OF MATERIAL IN WRITING, HAVING THINGS MEMORIALIZED. AND SO WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS IN THE SIX AND A HALF YEARS DOING THAT. WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, SIX YEARS, SIX AND A HALF YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T DO MUCH IN IN TERMS OF WRITING. THERE WASN'T MUCH IN TERMS OF PROTOCOL, IN TERMS OF IF YOU PASS, IF SOMEBODY LEAVES AS THE NEXT PERSON KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE'RE MINDFUL OF THAT OVERALL AND IN WATER AS WELL. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE IMPROVED UPON. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO MORE, BUT I THINK WE'VE SET IN PLACE, SYSTEMS TO HELP MEMORIALIZE, INSTITUTIONALIZE SO THAT JUST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COMMISSIONER DOESN'T HAPPEN SO EASILY. NOT TO SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN, BUT THE MORE OUR CITY IS PROFESSIONALLY RUN AND HAS SOLID PEOPLE AT THE DIFFERENT LEVELS, LIKE A NICK WHO'S OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR TODAY, THE MORE WE INSTITUTIONALIZE AND HAVE STANDARD PROTOCOLS, I THINK THE BETTER WE ARE AT NOT LETTING THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN. YEAH, JUST HANG ON RIGHT THERE. OKAY. HOW IS Y'ALL'S WORKING RELATIONSHIP NOW WITH THE SANFORD UNDERGROUND WATER DISTRICT? BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING WITH ALL THE RURAL PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE ALL THESE LITTLE WELLS THAT THEY DEPEND ON WATER TO AS WELL. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP PROTECT. YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. ARE Y'ALL GOING TO BE MONITORING SOME DEPTH DOWN TO WHERE THOSE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY MAY BE GETTING IN TROUBLE SOONER OR LATER. OR HOW Y'ALL GOING TO HANDLE? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A ROBUST, [00:35:03] BUT WE HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. ESTEBAN RAMOS, OUR WATER RESOURCE MANAGER IS ONE WHO ATTENDS OUR MEETINGS AND ENGAGES WITH THEM. PART OF THIS PROJECT REAL QUICK IS THAT THE SELLERS OF THE WATER RIGHTS AND THE THE LANDOWNERS WHO WILL GIVE US GROUND, GROUND RIGHTS, SURFACE LEVEL RIGHTS, THEY WILL BE IN CHARGE OF GETTING TRANSFER AND DRILLING PERMITS. TODAY THEY HAVE THE PRODUCTION PERMIT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT. SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT QUITE EXTENSIVELY WITH THE SELLERS TO ENSURE THE TRANSFER OF PERMITS AND THE DRILLING PERMITS. WE'LL ALSO WORK WITH THEM TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WELLS THAT EXIST TODAY, THE DEPTHS, THE WATER QUALITY. WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN NUECES COUNTY THAT ALL WELL OWNERS DO A BASELINE STUDY, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS HOW WE CAN HELP FUND THAT WITH THEM SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR HERE. WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A STRONG WORKING RELATIONSHIP. AND WE UNDERSTAND THEIR WELLS THAT EXIST TODAY. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE? SO FIRST, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK TO US. I THINK THIS GOES A LONG WAY IN HELPING US IN OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE IMPACTS MIGHT BE. I AM HAPPY TO SEE THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER FOR SITTING BOTH IN THE AUDIENCE. YESTERDAY I DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MAYOR SPEIDEL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROJECT, REALLY, BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE CITY OF SINTON AND SAINT PAUL AND THE OTHER LANDOWNERS WERE LEGITIMATELY HAVING GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO REVIEW WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE MOU THAT THEY PRESENTED. AND THAT'S GOOD THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS FOR THEM. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I TOLD THE MAYOR, IF THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH THE AGREEMENT, THEN I'LL BE SATISFIED WITH THE AGREEMENT. SO ONCE YOU HAVE THEM ON BOARD, THEN I'LL BE ON BOARD. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT HERE, BRINGING YOUR TEAM OUT HERE. I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY IN HELPING EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON MY OWN. SO DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE WATER QUALITY YOU'RE EXPECTING TO GET OUT OF THIS? AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUMP IT INTO THE PIPELINE, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE MIXING IT WITH THE WATER COMING DOWN THE MAIN ROADS TO GET TO OWEN STEPHENS. SO IS THERE IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT YOUR TREATMENT PLAN AT ALL, OR IS THAT GOING TO INCREASE THE COST OF TREATING WATER? FOR THOSE OF US WHO END UP PAYING A WATER BILL? RIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS AND I'LL SHOW THE MAP IN A MOMENT. ONE THING THAT IS THAT IS WELL LIKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THE WATER QUALITY. AND SO WATER QUALITY FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT KNOW IS TOTAL IS MEASURED IN TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS TDS. AND SO THE WATER QUALITY BASED ON THE TWO TEST WELLS HERE IS ABOUT EIGHT THAT WERE DONE ALREADY ON THE SITE IS ABOUT 800 TDS. AND THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY DECENT. THE WATER THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN AND THE MERRY ROADS IS PROBABLY BETWEEN FIVE, MAYBE FIVE, 700. YEAH, FIVE, SEVEN, 5 TO 7. AND THEN OUR WATER FROM THE WESTERN SOURCES IS A LITTLE HIGHER. IT'S PROBABLY SEVEN SEVEN TO TO EIGHT. SO THIS QUALITY WATER HERE IS DECENT. WE'RE GOING TO CAN YOU THERE'S A SLIDE SHOW STILL UP HERE. YES. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP HERE YOU SEE WHERE THE ARROW IS SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. AND THEN THAT DARKER BLUE LIKE A THERE'S A DARK BLUE SPOT IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN A BLUE AROUND THERE. THAT'S RIGHT AT THE RIGHT ON THE EVANGELINE PROPERTY. AND SO THE AQUIFER HAS DECENT OR BETTER QUALITY WATER THAN THE LIGHTER BLUE. SO THE WATER QUALITY IS DECENT HERE, AND WE DON'T EXPECT ANY INCREASE IN COSTS TO TREAT IT. OR ANYTHING. I THINK YOU HIT IT ON. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO OBVIOUSLY IS A, YOU KNOW, ELECTED OFFICIAL AND A WATER BUYER MYSELF. ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, IS WHAT DOES THIS DO TO THE COST OF OUR CURRENT. RIGHT. YEAH. SO THIS WILL BE BLENDED WITH ALL OUR SOURCES AND TREATED AT THE OWEN STEPHENS. THERE WON'T BE ANY INCREASED COSTS FOR TREATMENT. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAVE RATEPAYERS IN SEVEN DIFFERENT COUNTIES. ONE THING THAT MAKES THIS PROJECT GOOD IS THAT IT'S A LOWER COST WATER PROJECT. IT'S HALF THE COST OF OUR OF OUR INNER HARBOR DESAL PROJECT RIGHT NOW. AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I'D HAVE, SINCE YOU MENTIONED THE FACT WE'RE IN A LONG TERM DROUGHT. WHAT IS YOUR ESTIMATED TIMELINE THAT YOU'D EXPECT TO ACTUALLY SEE WATER BEING ADDED IN THE MAYOR ROADS OUT OF THIS PROJECT? YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE HAD THAT ANSWER, WE'D BE IN GREAT SHAPE. [00:40:02] YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS DROUGHT IS GOING TO LAST. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE MEET WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE EVERY WEEK AND THE DROUGHT. WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATED TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE PRODUCING WATER? OH, OKAY. YEAH. SO WE EXPECT THE FIRST 12 MILLION GALLONS BY NEXT NOVEMBER. AND NICK MENTIONED A LOT OF WORK IS UNDERWAY ALREADY. AND IT IS TO TRY TO GET THAT FIRST 12 MILLION GALLONS BY NOVEMBER OF 26. AND THEN THE SECOND 12 ON THE WESTERN SIDE. LET ME JUST SHOW THIS MAP HERE. THE FIRST SIDE THERE WITH THE GREEN BOX IS WHERE WE WOULD DRILL FIRST. THAT'D BE THE FIRST 12 12, TEN WELLS, 10 TO 12 WELLS AT 12 MILLION GALLONS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE EASTERN SIDE BY NOVEMBER OF 26. AND THEN THE SECOND SIDE, THAT YELLOW BOX, YELLOW AND RED WOULD BE BY DECEMBER OF 27. SO WE CAN GET THE FIRST 12. THE OTHER GOOD THING THAT MAKES US A LOW COST PROJECT IS ITS PROXIMITY TO THE RAILROADS PIPELINE. IT'S RIGHT AT THE AT THE FENCE LINE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOLKLORE OR TRUE ENGINEERING, BUT JOHN MICHAEL SAID THE DESIGN OF THE MERRY ROADS WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT ON PURPOSE TO BE RIGHT BY THIS WELL FIELD, KNOWING THAT THIS COULD BE THE NEXT WATER SOURCE FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. AND SO WE'LL BE INJECTING THE WATER RIGHT AT THE FENCE LINE. THE ENGINEERS HAVE ALREADY MAPPED OUT THE MILE MARKER, SO IT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN 89, 90 OR 91 WITH THE START BEING OUT IN EDNA. SO ABOUT 90 MILES IN FROM EDNA IS WITH THAT INJECTION POINT WOULD BE, WELL, I GUESS IT'S GOOD SOMEBODY HAD SOME FORESIGHT BACK IN THE BACK IN OUR PAST WATER PROJECTS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, SIR. SO NEXT NOVEMBER. THAT'S GOOD NEWS BECAUSE I, I KNOW THE LAST UPDATE I RECEIVED FROM CORPUS CHRISTI WATER WAS NEXT NOVEMBER WAS KIND OF THE TIME FRAME. WE WERE LOOKING FOR CURTAILMENTS TO TAKE EFFECT IF NOTHING ELSE CHANGES. SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING FEVERISHLY. THAT WILL CORRECT. COMMISSIONER. YEAH. RIGHT NOW WE ON OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE A WATER SUPPLY DASHBOARD THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF OUR WATER, INCLUDING OUR NUECES RIVER WELLS PROGRAM, OUR PROJECT. AND SO AS WE ADD MORE WATER TO OUR TO OUR SOURCES THAT OWEN STEVENS, INCLUDING OUR WELLS, INCLUDING AN EFFLUENT REUSE PROJECT INCLUDING EVANGELINE, WE CAN PUSH OFF CURTAILMENT INTO MAY OR EVEN LATER. AND THAT ASSUMES THE SAME RAIN PATTERNS WE'VE SEEN. SO IF WE HAVE DECENT RAINS IN THE SPRING, THAT CURTAILMENT IS PUSHED OFF MUCH FURTHER INTO 27. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. AND BASICALLY IT DEALS WITH THE LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI OR LAKE MATHES, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BEING SO LOW RIGHT NOW. YEAH. THIS WOULD BE THE BEST TIME IN THE WORLD TO DREDGE IT OUT. YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE HEARD THAT EVEN BEFORE. IT WAS BEFORE IT WASN'T THIS LOW. BUT SOME OF THE ISSUES TO CONSIDER IS THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN ELEMENTS IN THE IN THE LAKE BED THERE. THINGS LIKE ABANDONED NATURAL GAS LINES. OTHER OIL WELLS. YEAH. OLDER OIL AND GAS WELLS. AND WE'VE SEEN THEM. IN FACT ONE OF THE LAST DROUGHTS WE HAD OR ACTUALLY MAY HAVE BEEN THIS DROUGHT EARLY ON, WE CALLED THE RAILROAD COMMISSION TO CAP SOME OF THE WELLS THAT WERE STILL THERE THAT WERE NOT PLUGGED OR CAPPED. AND SO THE THE CAUTION IS OR THE RISK IS IF WE START DREDGING AND WE HIT A WELL OR HIT A WELL LINE COULD FALL, THE WATER COULD RUIN THE THE REMAINING WATER THAT'S THERE. AND SO WE'RE HESITANT TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GETTING ABOUT 30% OF OUR WATER EVERY DAY FROM LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI AND CHOKE CANYON. AND SO WE DO KNOW THE LAKE HAS SILTED IN. BOTH OF THEM HAVE OVER TIME. BUT WE DON'T. WE THINK THE THE RISK OF DESTROYING THE REST OF THE WATER AT THE AT THE BENEFIT OF GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE SURFACE AREA IS NOT WORTH IT. WELL, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND DREDGING, BUT THERE'S ALSO JUST MOVING DIRT AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIRT THAT USED TO BE UNDERWATER, BUT IT'S NOT UNDERWATER NO MORE. YEAH. CORRECT. I'M SAYING YEAH. EVERY EVERY LITTLE BIT YOU DO YOU SALVAGE DOESN'T GO OVER THE DAM WHEN IT DOES FLOOD. I'VE SEEN THAT THAT RIVER UP OVER 27FT, 28FT IN MY PARKS OUT THERE. I WAS HANDLING PARKS. YEAH. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THAT INPUT. WE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? YEAH. YEAH. WELL, I JUST I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THEY ARE DOING A VOLUMETRIC SURVEY OF LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI AND CHOKE CANYON. AND THAT DATA SHOULD BE IN EARLY EARLY NEXT CALENDAR YEAR, SO THAT THAT INFORMATION WORKING WITH THE TDHB WILL HELP GUIDE THOSE DECISIONS AS WELL. IF IT WASN'T FOR THE DREDGING OR REMOVING DIRT FROM LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI, I WISH THEY WOULD BUILD A PIPELINE UP TO CHOKE CANYON TO PUMP THE EXCESS WATER BACK INTO CHOKE CANYON, BECAUSE THEY CAN HOLD A LOT MORE THAN LAKE CORPUS. [00:45:01] AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WON'T DO THAT. SO CANYON IS A BIG RESERVOIR. I KNOW THAT, THAT'S FOR SURE. WHEN LAKE GETS OVERFULL, A LOT OF THAT WATER COULD BE PUMPED BACK UP IN THE CHOKE. AND AS FOR THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I CAN SAY IS, RIGHT NOW, ALL OF OUR EFFORTS ARE LASER FOCUSED ON TRYING TO AVOID THAT LEVEL ONE WATER EMERGENCY DATE THAT'S CURRENTLY PROJECTED FOR NOVEMBER 2026. AND THAT'S WHY THE THESE NEW WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS ARE SO CRITICAL TO US. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE CRITICAL IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT ALSO IN THE LONG TERM, BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAS SOLELY DEPENDENT UPON SURFACE WATER, AND THE CITY HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB DIVERSIFYING THE SURFACE WATER WITH THE WESTERN RESERVOIRS, LAKE TEXANA AND THE COLORADO RIVER IN THE EAST. HOWEVER, WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT OUR SOURCES NEED TO BE MORE THAN JUST SURFACE WATER, AND THAT'S WHY GROUNDWATER IS SO CRITICAL. AND AND POTENTIALLY SEAWATER WOULD BE CRITICAL AS WELL, TO HAVE THOSE THREE DIFFERENT SUPPLIES SO THAT THE OVERALL SOURCE CAN BE MANAGED WELL. ALL I'M SAYING IS WHEN WHEN TIMES ARE PLENTIFUL AND TRILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER GO OVER THAT DAM, I MEAN ENOUGH TO GO FROM HERE TO DALLAS. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WIDE THAT RIVER GETS. ALMOST A MILE WIDE SOMETIMES. I MEAN, IT'S SERIOUSLY. AND IF THAT THAT WATER COULD BE PUMPED UP AND CHOKE CANYON, IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. IT'D BE FOR THE FUTURE. THE MORE WATER YOU SAVE, THE MORE WATER WILL LAST. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YES, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER. I DID, I DID. I INTRODUCED JOHN CHISHOLM IN THE BEGINNING, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF I MENTIONED HIS AGENCY. SO HE'S WITH NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY. HE'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR RECENTLY BROUGHT ON BOARD. HE'S WITH JOHN BYRUM. AND SO THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY IS OUR RIVER AUTHORITY. AND ISSUES LIKE THIS, LIKE DREDGING INTERCONNECTS THEY HELPED US BUILD CHOKE CANYON, NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY DID THERE IN THE WATER BUSINESS AS WELL. YOU MAY KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT A DESALINIZATION PLANT ON HARBOR ISLAND. AND THE CITY RECENTLY PURCHASED 50 50 MILLION GALLONS OF RESERVATION WATER RIGHTS. BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WE APPRECIATE THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY. THEY'RE GOING TO GO WITH US. JOHN JOHN AGREED TO OR ASKED. CAN CAN CAN WE GO? CAN WE TAG ALONG WITH YOU AS YOU ENGAGE THESE COMMUNITIES IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY AND NUECES COUNTY? AND THE ANSWER WAS ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'RE GLAD THEY'RE HERE WITH US. SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE AGENCY IS HERE TO LISTEN AND TAKE NOTE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THEY NEED TO. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1936, SO THEY'RE AN IMPORTANT AGENCY, THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY. YES, SIR. PETER, JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU DID TODAY IS IT CAN WE PRINT THAT OFF AND USE IT FOR OUR REFERENCE? IF WE'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE OR. YES, YOU CAN. WE'LL MAKE THAT ONE. WE'LL SEND IT BACK TO THE CITY SECRETARY. WE'LL MAKE THAT ONE CHANGE BECAUSE IT STILL HAS THE 20TH. AND SO THE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING, THE TOWN HALL WILL BE THE 24TH. WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE AND SEND IT AND ABSOLUTELY FEEL FEEL FREE TO TO SUBMIT THAT OUT, HAVE REFERENCE TO IT IF WE GO OUT. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. AND IF ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY JUDGE OR COMMISSIONERS WANT US TO COME AND TALK TO YOU OR YOUR GROUPS, WHETHER IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, A BUSINESS GROUP A COMMUNITY GROUP WILL BE WILLING TO DO THAT. SO JUST LET US KNOW. WE'LL BE GLAD TO COME OUT AND TALK TO YOU. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. THIS HAS BEEN VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A TEDIOUS JOB FOR YOU, PETER, IN YOUR CITY COUNCIL DEALING WITH THEM AND JOHN MICHAEL, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF HISTORY GOING ON HERE TOO, SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WE KNOW WE NEED WATER, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. AND Y'ALL ARE WORKING EXTREMELY HARD TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN TO KEEP THE PRICE DOWN LOW. I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT Y'ALL ARE DEALING WITH AT THAT PRICE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AND REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PARTNERS WITH Y'ALL. AND WE ARE ALREADY. BUT NOW THIS WILL REALLY PUT US TOGETHER. JOHN, I'M GLAD YOU AND THE MAYOR ARE HERE THIS MORNING AND STUFF TO HEAR THIS. I KNOW Y'ALL HEARD IT PROBABLY A MILLION TIMES, JUST LIKE I HAVE AND STUFF, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT THE 24TH BRINGS. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN CONVINCE THE CITIZENS AND I THINK IT'S A VERY CONVINCIBLE, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM THAT Y'ALL HAVE HERE. IT'S JUST LETTING EVERYBODY WALK AWAY ON THE 24TH, FEELING CONFIDENT THAT THEY ARE PROTECTED. THAT'S THE MAIN THING. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR. YEAH. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU THANK YOU. OKAY JOHN I MEAN IF Y'ALL WANT TO GO OUT WITH THEM THAT'S UP TO YOU. [00:50:01] YEAH. THANKS. ENJOY THIS WEATHER. YEAH. STAY OUTSIDE INSTEAD OF INSIDE. IT'LL GET WORSE. OKAY. RYAN. OKAY. OKAY, WE'LL GO ON AND GET BACK ON OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE. [3. Citizens to be heard] WE'LL GO TO 1.3, WHICH IS CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. I DO HAVE ONE CARD THIS MORNING FROM SONYA WEATHERSPOON. WANTS TO TALK, I GUESS, ON 2.48. YOU KNOW THE ROUTINE. COME UP, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU GOT YOUR THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS SONIA WITHERSPOON. I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FORMER PRECINCT THREE COMMISSIONER'S BOTCHED BRIDGE, NOR THE ALMOST MILLION DOLLARS IN ABATEMENTS LOST OVER THE WIND FARM SETTLEMENTS IN PRECINCT THREE. INSTEAD, I'M HERE TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE CURRENT PRECINCT TWO COMMISSIONER AND HIS REQUEST TO WASTE TAXPAYER FUNDS ON THE USED OIL DISTRIBUTOR. TWO COMMISSIONERS VOTED AGAINST THIS AND OFFERED THE USE OF THEIRS ON 929, 20, 25, WHICH IS KIND OF THEM UNTIL THE ROAD SUPERINTENDENT IS HIRED FOR THE MODIFIED UNIT ROAD SYSTEM THAT THIS COUNTY THAT THIS COURT APPROVED ON 623, 2025. THE ATTACHED DOCUMENT TO 2.48 DOES NOT SHOW THE YEAR, MAKE OR MODEL EITHER HOW MUCH MONEY WILL BE WASTED TO MAINTAIN THE USED PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WON'T EVEN BE USED ON A REGULAR BASIS. I'VE BEEN WATCHING VIDEOS OF COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING SINCE JANUARY 2021, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN MORE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS AFTER THE FOUR, SEVEN 2020 FIVE MEETING WHERE THE PRECINCT TWO COMMISSIONER DISCUSSED PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS. I SAT DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND WATCHED HIM FINALLY FORWARD EACH OF MY REQUESTS THAT I HAD TRACKED ON A SPREADSHEET. WHILE THE PIO DIDN'T REVEAL I WAS IN HIS OFFICE, THE PRECINCT TWO COMMISSIONER WOULD CALL WITHIN MINUTES AFTER RECEIVING EACH ONE. ON 12, 11, 20, 24, I SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR SEVERAL OF THE PRECINCT TWO COMMISSIONERS. WEEKLY REPORTS THAT THE COUNTY CLERK HAD NEGLECTED TO ATTACH TO THE MINUTES. I FINALLY RECEIVED THOSE ON FOUR, 16, 20, 25, IN THE PRECINCT. TWO COMMISSIONER HASN'T GIVEN ANY EXTENSIVE WEEKLY REPORTS HERE SINCE THEN. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE OF MY REQUEST OR BECAUSE OF THE HIGH TURNOVER OF HIS STAFF. THE PRECINCT TWO FOREMAN RETIRED AT THE END OF 2024. THE MECHANIC WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE FOREMAN POSITION IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY. ANOTHER EMPLOYEE RESIGNED IN FEBRUARY. ONE TRANSFERRED TO PRECINCT THREE IN APRIL, WHILE TWO MORE RETIRED IN APRIL. REPLACEMENTS WEREN'T HIRED UNTIL ONE WAS IN MARCH 1ST NOT UNTIL JUNE 1ST IN JULY, ONE IN AUGUST, AND ONE IS STILL VACANT. THE PRECINCT TWO COMMISSIONER 60 TWO, 2025. BLITZ WAS FOR MORE THAN A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION TO SEALCOAT THE ROAD IN PRECINCT ONE THAT IS NEAR AN INDUSTRY AND NUECES COUNTY'S ETJ, SO THE COUNTY DOESN'T EVEN RECEIVE TAX DOLLARS FROM THEM. I COMPARED THE PRECINCT TWO COMMISSIONERS WEEKLY REPORTS WITH THE COUNTY AND CITY MAPS. THOSE WEEKLY REPORTS SHOW WORK PRIMARILY DONE ON ROADS THAT BELONG TO PRECINCT ONE, NEAR THAT INDUSTRY, AND THE CITY OF PORTLAND, AND NOT THE 17 MILES OF ROADS ACTUALLY IN PRECINCT TWO. I LOOKED AT THE ANNEXED AREAS, AND I SUBMITTED A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST TO BOTH GOVERNMENTAL BODIES IN JUNE FOR A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ANNEXED AREAS AND INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS. THE CITY RESPONDED TO MY REQUEST. IN TIME, HOWEVER, THE COUNTY STILL HAS NOT RESPONDED AND THE PRECINCT ONE COMMISSIONER WAS EXCLUDED FROM THEIR MEETINGS AND AGREEMENTS. I'M ALSO LOOKING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, SINCE THE PRECINCT ONE COMMISSIONER HAS NOT APPROVED ANY MOU BETWEEN PRECINCT TWO AND THREE, PRECINCT TWO BUDGET SHOULD BE EVEN SMALLER NEXT YEAR BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS. WHY APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A USED OIL DISTRIBUTOR SO LATE IN 2025? THAT WILL ONLY BE USED FOR THE CITY'S ROADS, AND NOT BY PRECINCT TWO AND PRECINCT ONE ANYMORE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. BRADDOCK, IS HE STILL THERE? DID HE LEAVE? I WAS GOING TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO TALK ON WHAT HE SAW OR HEARD. SO HE STEPPED OUT. I THINK HE WAS. HE WAS GOOD. HE WAS GOOD. HE WAS GOOD WITH IT. OKAY, I'LL JUST SEE IF I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. AND I WASN'T GOING TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THIS MORNING. THAT CAN BE FOR THE 24TH WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OUT ON THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR THAT. SO OKAY. GOOD DEAL. YEAH. I HAVE NO OTHER CARDS THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. LET'S GO TO ONE POINT FOR A REPORT FROM JUDGE COMMISSIONERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS. [4. Report from Judge, Commissioner or Department concerning an item/report of community interest.] MR. GILLESPIE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT, MR. GONZALEZ. YES, WE GOT THE DIRT PATCH TRUCK PATCH IN COUNTY ROAD 2015. LA FORCE TO PARK MATHIS AREA AND ON COUNTY ROAD 647 FOR PAVING DOING. WE JUST DID THE SECOND COURSE ON COUNTY ROAD 1510 THERE IN ODOM. WE'RE DOING ROAD PROCESSING ON COUNTY ROAD 519 AND 798, AND MATHIS AND COUNTY ROAD 1470 AND SINTON. WE'RE MOVING IN THE ODOM AREA. WE DID SOME CULVERT REPAIR ON COUNTY ROAD 1196, THE VISTA VERDE AND SINTON AREA, [00:55:03] AND WE DID SOME CULVERT INSTALLATION IN COUNTY ROAD 1296, IN SINTON. GOT THE GRAPPLE TRUCK GOING, PICKING UP BRUSH IN THE BETHEL AREA. COUNTY ROAD 2399. COUNTY ROAD 2415. COUNTY ROAD 2395. COUNTY ROAD 2431. WE'RE ALSO IN THE OLDHAM AREA THIS WEEK PICKING UP BRUSH AND WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE BIG FIRE WE HAD THERE AT GREGORY. WE ALSO TOOK DUMP TRUCKS AND ASSISTED WITH SKID STEER, WATER TRUCK AND TRAFFIC CONTROL LAST WEEK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY, MISTER. EARLY MORNING JUDGE. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. SO BESIDES THE FIRE AND GREGORY, WHICH I THINK PRETTY MUCH ALL THE PRECINCTS WERE ASSISTING WITH SATURDAY EVENING, OUR COUNTY HAD A SEVERE HAIL AND WINDSTORM THAT ROLLED THROUGH, IMPACTING TAFT. GREGORY PORTLAND AND I THINK ON OVER INTO INGLESIDE ON THE BAY AND INGLESIDE. SO SATURDAY EVENING, I KIND OF MADE A QUICK ASSESSMENT OF THE COUNTY BUILDINGS IN PORTLAND. THERE'S NO VISIBLE DAMAGE TO THE PORTLAND ANNEX OR OUT TO OUR BARN OR OUR EQUIPMENT. LUCKILY, EVERYTHING WAS COVERED IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY DIDN'T SEEM TO GET THE SAME BRUNT OF THE HAILSTORM THAT SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS GOT. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN, IN OUR PRECINCT THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING TODAY. PROBABLY BE DOING THAT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS, ACTUALLY, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN KNOCKED OVER OR BENT UP. SO WE'LL WE'LL ADDRESS THAT. BUT I WILL SAY A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO CLEAN UP AFTER THIS STORM. SO IF YOU'RE ABLE, I WOULD CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, ASSIST YOUR NEIGHBORS WHERE YOU CAN. I KNOW IN TAFT I CAME AND TAPPED YESTERDAY MORNING, AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DAMAGE THERE. PORTLAND. IT'S KIND OF NARROWED DOWN TO AN AREA BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, BEHIND TARGET AND AND WALMART, THE SUBDIVISIONS BEHIND THERE AND DOWN INTO NORTH SHORE. THOSE HOUSES RECEIVED A LOT OF DAMAGE. THE VEHICLES. I KNOW MY SON LIVES IN THAT AREA. HIS CAR IS TOTALED. IT REALLY DID DO A LOT OF DAMAGE THROUGH THERE. SO I JUST SAY, LOOK OUT FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS. HELP THEM WHERE YOU CAN. HELP THEM CLEAN UP AND DO WHAT YOU CAN. THAT'S ALL I GOT, JUDGE. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE OUT. WE'RE MOWING. ON COUNTY ROAD 98 AND 93. THE OLD NUMBERS. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT OUR ELECTRIC PUT INTO OUR NEW BUILDINGS, AND WE'RE BACKFILLING ON THE. ON THE DEEP TRENCH. WE FOUND A WE GOT A FEW MILLION TONS OF CONCRETE BURIED OUT THERE, BUT WE GOT AROUND IT, AND WE GOT THE ELECTRIC TO IT. I GOT MY GUYS STILL WORKING ON IWERKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT OUT THERE. WE'RE CLEANING UP OUR TRUCKS FROM THE FIRE. I'M SURE WE'LL PROBABLY BE REPLACING SOME COVERS OVER THE TOP OF THE TRUCKS AND SO FORTH. AND I WANT TO COMMEND ALL THE PRECINCTS OUT THERE THAT WAS MOVING HOT BALES. WITH THE FLAMING TRUCKS GOING DOWN OUT THERE TO BEAR. AND I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR BEING OUT THERE. THANK YOU. ON THE NOTE THAT JUST ENDED WITH ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. MOST OF YOU DON'T MAY NOT KNOW THAT SCOTT WAS OUT OF TOWN ON TRAINING THAT WHOLE WEEK WHEN THAT FIRE HAPPENED. THE DEPUTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OPERATOR, SUSAN, WAS HERE. SHE TOOK THAT INCIDENT AND SHE RAN IT WITH A GREAT WELL OILED MACHINE. SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB. SHE KEPT ME INFORMED AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON. SHE KEPT EVERYBODY OUT IN THE FIELD. WHAT WAS GOING ON? THE GIRL WAS OUT THERE BACK IN THE OFFICE AT 7:00 EVERY MORNING, AND DIDN'T GET HOME TILL 830 AT NIGHT AND STUFF, TAKING CARE OF THAT SITUATION. AND I WANT TO COMMEND HER FOR SUCH A GREAT JOB. I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN HER OFFICE TOLD HER THAT SHE DID A BETTER JOB THAN HER THE PREDECESSOR WOULD HAVE DONE FROM HOW SHE HANDLED THAT SITUATION. SHE'S NOT HERE THIS MORNING. I WISH SHE WAS SO SHE COULD HEAR WHAT I WAS SAYING. SO SHE'S A BUSY GIRL. SHE LIKES BEING BUSY, AND SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB FROM THE TIME THAT THAT FIRE STARTED. SHE CAME AND CALLED ME AND GOT ME AND TOLD ME RIGHT AWAY. SHE GAVE ME ORDERS THAT I FOLLOWED. BELIEVE ME, WHEN SHE TOLD ME TO GO SOMEWHERE, I WENT BECAUSE I KNEW SHE WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING AND STUFF. AND OF COURSE SHE WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH SCOTT. HE WAS WAY OUT OF TOWN, SO HE COULDN'T BE HERE AND STUFF. ON WHAT COMMISSIONER YARDLEY SAID. SCOTT AND I, YESTERDAY MORNING WE STARTED A LITTLE TOUR OF THE COUNTY. [01:00:02] WE WENT FROM PORTLAND TO GREGORY TO TAFT, AND WE ACTUALLY EVEN CAME UP HERE TO SINTON JUST LOOKING AND SEEING WHAT KIND OF DAMAGE THERE WAS ACROSS THE COUNTY AND STUFF. THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE, YOU KNOW, TO A LOT OF VEHICLES. I MEAN, YOU GO THROUGH PORTLAND OUT THERE IN THAT NORTH SHORE AREA, AND IF THERE WAS A VEHICLE THAT WAS PARKED OUTSIDE, IT'S NOT A VEHICLE ANYMORE. MATTER OF FACT SCOTT LOST HIS BRAND NEW CHEVROLET PICKUP OUT AT WALMART THAT HAS 6000 MILES ON IT BECAUSE HIM AND HIS WIFE WERE SHOPPING OUT THERE, AND HE SAID IT HELD FOR A GOOD 30 MINUTES. BASEBALL SIZED HAIL. IF YOU GO TO PORTLAND, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF YOU MAY NOT EVEN READ WALMART UP ON A STORE ANYMORE BECAUSE A LOT OF THEIR LETTERING IS GONE OFF. IT KNOCKED ALL OF THAT OFF AND STUFF, AND HE MADE A COMMENT TO ME YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE RIDING AROUND. HE SAID EVEN STEVIE WONDER COULD TELL THAT TRUCK HAD BEEN IN A HAILSTORM BECAUSE IT HAD SO MANY DENTS ON AND STUFF. BUT I'M GOING TO BE GETTING WITH MELANIE. I'M GOING TO BE GETTING WITH THE TETUM PEOPLE WERE PROBABLY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT MAYBE DOING A DISASTER AREA. YOU KNOW, I HATE TO DO IT FOR INDIVIDUAL TOWNS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT. WE JUST MAY DO IT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. SO IT COVERS EVERYBODY HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT IF THEY HAD SOME DAMAGE. SO WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT BECAUSE WE DID DECLARE DISASTER AREA DOWN AT GREGORY FOR THE COTTON FIRE THAT THEY HAD LAST WEEK. SO WE'LL JUST ADD THIS ONE AND DO ONE HERE. WE'LL PROBABLY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER AND APPROVE MAYBE BOTH OF THEM THAT WE HAVE DONE. OKAY. OKAY. DEPARTMENT HEADS. ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE ANYTHING THIS MORNING. OH, YEAH. WE GOT TO WATCH ANOTHER VIDEO. ALRIGHT. SO THIS PAST FRIDAY, WE HAD OUR ANNUAL SANPETE COUNTY COSTUME CONTEST AND PUMPKIN CONTEST THAT WE HERE WE HAVE HERE IN THE BUILDING. WE HAD PARTICIPATION FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTY. SO THERE'S A SHORT LITTLE VIDEO. SO THE ONES THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE COULD ACTUALLY SEE WHAT HAPPENED. I'M LOOKING FOR MY MUSIC. VIDEOS IN THE POWERPOINT. POWERPOINT IS THE VIDEO. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHERE ALL OUR SOUND SECONDS. YEAH. THE GHOST TOOK MY VOICE. OKAY, PLAY IT BACK. OKAY. I'M COMING TO SEE YOU. OKAY. OKAY. TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY. JUST COME WITH THE PROGRAM. I KNOW THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. IT WORKED ON FRIDAY WHEN WE PUT IT TOGETHER. FRIDAY AFTERNOON. I WEAR IT OUT FRIDAY WATCHING IT. IT'S IT'S THE IT'S NOT THE. POWERPOINT. IT'S THE COMPUTER. IT'S NOT PUTTING SOUND. WHAT'S THE COMPUTER. 3850. WHAT? THE COMPUTER. WOULD YOU MIND IF I GO? OKAY, STEPHEN, IF YOU CAN FOLLOW IT. GO. I'LL LET HIM WORK ON IT. OKAY. HERE. LET'S DO HIS RECORDING HERE. I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIX MY PROBLEM? NO. I HAVE A DELEGATE TO SAY THAT. SORRY. WELL, JOSH IS FIXING THAT. I HAVE TWO THINGS. JOSH AND COMMISSIONERS. JUST A REMINDER. ALL THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT WE ARE FILTERING ALL THE WEBSITES. [01:05:02] SO IF ANYBODY'S GETTING BLOCKED OR NOT ABLE TO CONNECT TO A WEBSITE, THEY NEED TO CONTACT IT. AND JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, ANY WEATHER OR NEWS WEBSITE IS PROHIBITED. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT. YOU SAID ANY WEATHER OR NEWS, DEPENDING ON YOUR GROUP THAT YOU FALL IN, YOU WILL BE PROHIBITED BECAUSE THERE IS A TON OF ADWARE THAT CONNECTS TO THE SITE. AND IF PART OF THE SECURITY POSTURE WE'RE GOING TO PROHIBIT THAT. AGAIN, IF YOU'RE BLOCKED OR HAVING THAT ISSUE, JUST CONTACT IT. THE SECOND THING I JUST WANT TO REMIND JP EIGHT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING AND ADDING SERVICES. THANK YOU FOR BEING A FRIEND. THAT'S MY CUE. I'M UP. ANY QUESTIONS OR. YES. WE'RE GETTING READY TO OPEN UP THE NEW BUILDING. WELL, IT'S ALREADY OPEN BECAUSE IT'S GOT ALL THE WINDOWS. IT MIGHT BE OPEN, BUT IT'S NOT OPERABLE, SO. RIGHT. GOT A LITTLE WORK TO DO NOW. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOSH. OKAY, JOSH, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT NOW THAT YOU CUT IT OFF. SEE IF IT COMES BACK ON. I DO. NEED TO WALK BACK UP TO THE PODIUM. SO YOU WERE SINGING THE SONG, ACTUALLY. YES. MISTER. I GOT A QUESTION. IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS LOOK LIKE UP THERE IN THIS PRESENTATION? WE DID NOT LIVE STREAM OUR CONTEST THIS YEAR. WE KIND OF DO THIS TYPE OF PRESENTATION. SO WE HAVE A THANK YOU FOR BEING A FRIEND, TRAVELED DOWN THE ROAD AND BACK AGAIN. YOUR HEART IS TRUE. YOU'RE A PAL AND A CONFIDANT. AND IF YOU THREW A PARTY, INVITED EVERYONE YOU KNEW YOU WOULD SEE, THE BIGGEST GIFT WOULD BE FROM ME. AND THE CARD ATTACHED WOULD. SAY THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. YOUR STORY'S SAD TO TELL A TEENAGE NE'ER DO WELL. MOST MIXED UP NON-DELINQUENT ON THE BLOCK. YOUR FUTURE'S SO UNCLEAR NOW WHAT'S. BOYS AND GIRLS OF EVERY AGE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING STRANGE COME? SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TECHNOLOGY ISSUES COME INTO PLACE. BUT THAT'S OKAY. WE DO NOT LIVE STREAM COMMISSIONER. WE STOPPED DOING THAT THIS PAST YEAR. WE JUST HAVE THE PARTICIPATION THAT WE HAVE HERE. WE DO HAVE THE PUMPKINS ONLINE THAT ARE JUDGED. TRISH FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE DOES THAT FOR US. AND THAT WAY WE HAVE THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE VOTING FOR THAT. AND THEN I BRING OUTSIDE STAFF, NOT PUBLIC PEOPLE TO DO THE JUDGING FOR THE COSTUME. SO IT'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S IN HERE. OKAY. A LOT OF CREATIVITY FROM THE EMPLOYEES, AS YOU CAN TELL. OKAY. VERY, VERY POPULAR. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS? JUDGE HERE. OH, THERE YOU GO. IF ANYBODY DID HAVE PROPERTY DAMAGE TO COUNTY VEHICLES, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE REACH OUT ALREADY THIS MORNING. Y'ALL COULD DEPARTMENT HEADS LET US KNOW SO WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THE INSURANCE AND GET THAT PROCESS ROLLING AS WELL. WE APPRECIATE IT. ANYBODY ELSE? I'VE JUST GOT ONE OTHER THING FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT. YOU KNOW, WE NOMINATED MARCY FOR THE APPRAISAL BOARD. LAST MEETING. WE HAVE GOT THE OFFICIAL BALLOT BACK FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. [01:10:01] I JUST HANDED THAT OUT TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHO'S BEEN NOMINATED AND STUFF. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PRETTY GOOD PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED ON HERE. SO I NEED TO GET WITH YOU AND WE'LL GET TOGETHER AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THIS AS FAR AS OUR VOTE. TABLET, YOU HAVE A NUMBER THERE. 1107 THAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES THAT WE HAVE AS A COUNTY. GRACIE I GOT ONE SO THAT WE CAN EITHER DIVIDE UP HOWEVER WE WANT TO DIVIDE IT UP. SO OKAY. SO THIS ONE SAYS ANY DE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY DRAINAGE VOTING ENTITLEMENT 124 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT FORM. WELL, THIS IS WHAT THEY SENT ME. IT SAYS DRAINAGE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WELL THAT'S THEIR VOTING ALLOTMENT 124. I DON'T KNOW MY SISTER PATRICIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. YEAH. ON THE TOP I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS THE LINE THAT SAYS ENTITY SAN PATRICIO COUNTY DRAINAGE. YEAH, THE ENTITY IS WRONG AND THAT THE ENTITLEMENTS. 124 SO YOU GOT THE WRONG. YOU GOT THE WRONG. THIS IS THE WRONG. LET ME LET ME GET WITH THE APPRAISAL. THAT'S WHAT THEY SENT THE RIGHT ONE. OKAY. BUT THE VOTES ARE RIGHT AND THE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT. WELL, NOT NOT THE VOTES. THE NOMINATIONS ARE CORRECT. OH, YEAH. THIS IS NOT OUR FORM. 1107. YEAH. IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT? I'LL GET THE RIGHT ONE FOR YOU. I'LL GET IT OUT TO YOU. OKAY. OKAY. IT JUST HAS TO BE IN BY DECEMBER 15TH IS WHEN IT HAS TO BE IN TO THE PRESENT DISTRICT. SO WE GOT LOTS OF TIME. OKAY. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS? ANY OTHER REPORTS? OKAY, WE'LL GO ON THEN TO 2.1 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. [1. Approval of minutes] MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECONDED BY GONZALEZ FOR APPROVAL. I ASSUME THAT THERE'S NO CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS. I DIDN'T HEAR ANY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. FINANCIAL 2.2. AYE. EXAMINATION. CONSIDERATION OF ALL CLAIMS AGAINST THE COUNTY. [a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.] MOVE TO PAY THE BILLS. SECOND. MOTION SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE BILLS PRESENTED THIS MORNING? HEAR? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. AND WHAT DID I DO WITH MY BLITZES HERE? [b. Consideration and action on Budget Line Items, Transfers, and Amendments.] OH, HERE THEY ARE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM TO BE. YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW THIS MORNING. THE FIRST ONES OUT OF BUILDING AND YARDS. TRANSFERRING MONEY FROM CONTINGENCY INTO MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT. AND YOU'LL HEAR WHY THAT IS HAPPENING HERE LATER ON. BECAUSE THERE'S A MOTION AGENDA ITEMS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. I READ IT. THE NEXT ONE IS OUT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM PRINTING AND POSTAGE EXPENSE OUT OF DISTRICT COURT. CAUGHT TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM POSTAGE. PUBLIC NOTICES. NCO FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT INTO LONGEVITY AND FOOD EXPERTS OUT OF JP ONE. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE IN THE VEHICLE EQUIPMENT RENTAL. THE NEXT ONES OUT OF THE AIRPORT TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM BUILDING AND REPAIRS INTO WORKERS COMPENSATION AND VEHICLE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. NEXT ONES OUT OF THE FAIRGROUNDS, TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM FURNITURE, VEHICLES, AND EQUIPMENT INTO PRINTING AND TELEPHONES. NEXT ONES OUT OF COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES INTO FURNITURE, EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS. NEXT ONES OUT OF ROAD AND BRIDGE FOR TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM FURNITURE, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT INTO SEAL COATING. NEXT ONES OUT OF JP SIX. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM GENERAL SUPPLIES AND TO JURORS EXPENSE. AND I BELIEVE I'VE GOT TWO MORE NEXT ONES OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. DEPARTMENT. THE COUNTY ENGINEER TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM POSTAGE INTO OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. AND THE LAST ONE IS THAT A JP FOR TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM COURT COSTS, VISITING JUDGES, JURORS EXPENSE, EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, MISCELLANEOUS SERVICES AND CHARGES. NCO FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT INTO POSTAGE. MOVE TO APPROVE BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. SECOND MOTION A SECOND, BUT USUALLY TO APPROVE TRANSFERS. ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THEM? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES 2.2 C COUNTY TREASURER'S BANK RECONCILIATIONS. [c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ] GOOD MORNING. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. TODAY'S GENERAL HEALTH TRANSFER IS $12,500. SECTION 125 IS 2576 85. MOVE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. SECOND. SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. HEARING NONE. [01:15:01] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT IS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2.3. [3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:] WE DO HAVE JUST ONE THIS MORNING. ACCEPT AND RECORD COUNTY AUDITOR'S MONTHLY UNAUDITED FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 2.3 A SECOND. SECONDED BY THE COURSE. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS 2.4 A HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. 2.4 B DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION. ACTION TO FOLLOW THE BUILDING AND YARDS. [b. Discussion, consideration, and action to allow the Buildings and Yards department to purchase a 2025 Chevrolet 2500HD Silverado 4x2 Crew Cab from Caldwell Country Chevrolet through Buy Board Contract # 724-3 in the amount of $46,845. This unit will replace a truck which was totaled in a not-at-fault accident. If approved, this amount would need to come out of contingency funds.] DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE A 2025 CHEVROLET 2500 SILVERADO FOUR BY TWO CREW CAB FROM CALDWELL. COUNTRY CHEVROLET THROUGH THE BY BOARD CONTRACT 724 THREE. IN THE AMOUNT OF $46,845. THIS UNIT WILL REPLACE A TRUCK WHICH WAS INVOLVED IN A NOT AT FAULT ACCIDENT. IF APPROVED, THIS AMOUNT WOULD NEED TO COME OUT OF OUR CONTINGENCY FUNDS. IT WAS ALSO TOTALED, SO I MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY APPROVAL FOR COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE PERSON WHO RAN INTO THEM DID NOT HAVE INSURANCE. IS THAT THE CASE? YEAH. WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, YES, I THINK THAT WAS CASE. AND THEN WE RECEIVED OUR INSURANCE MONEY AND SO FROM OUR INSURANCE COMPANY AND WAS OUR, OUR COUNTY PEOPLE INJURED IN THIS ACCIDENT. YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER. OKAY. THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE VEHICLE, I THINK. I DON'T RECALL THAT FOR SURE. OR ANY OTHER INJURIES FOR THAT MATTER, I GUESS. OH, THAT'S BUILDING YARDS. OH, YEAH, THEY WERE FINE. OKAY, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE AUDITOR AND JUST GENERAL FOR ALL THE PURCHASING GOING THROUGH. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PURCHASING MANUAL I WAS HANDED BACK IN JANUARY, AND I'M TOLD IT'S BEING UPDATED. IT'S BEEN 11 MONTHS. MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER AND OVER IN THE PREVIOUS MANUAL. ANYTHING UNDER $50,000 NEVER HAD TO COME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT. BUT NOW EVERY WEEK WE HAVE CONTINUAL LINE ITEMS OF ITEMS UNDER $50,000 HAVING TO COME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WHICH TAKES TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGE IN THE LAW. WITH THE THREE DAYS OF POSTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE IN TIME, JUST TRYING TO MEET A 30 DAY QUOTE SOMETIMES IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET EVERYTHING THROUGH THE VERIFICATION PROCESS AND SO FORTH. SO IS THIS GOING TO BE A STANDARD THING IN A NEW PURCHASING MANUAL THAT IN THINGS UNDER, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OVER 5000 NOW HAVE TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT? ARE WE GOING TO BE HERE FOR MONDAY TO WEDNESDAY OR WHAT? WELL, THERE IS SOME THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT HAVE TO COME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, DEPENDING ON WHAT FUNDS THAT COME OUT OF, WE'RE TAKING OUT OF CONTINGENCY. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON. I'M JUST READING THROUGH THE WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE PURCHASING MANUAL AND WE'RE UPDATING THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE BEFORE THE YEAR END. SO AND WE'LL GET GOOD WORK ON IT WHEN THE FINAL APPROVAL, THEN IT'LL COME TO US AND WE CAN REVIEW IT. AND I WILL SAY THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR VEHICLES. IT'S BEEN OUR COUNTY NOT OFFICIAL POLICY, BUT WE PUT ALL VEHICLE PURCHASES ON THE ON THE AGENDA. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN HERE. YEAH. IT'S MORE IT'S MORE OF AN ORDER FOR TRACKING, FOR BEING ABLE TO TRACK PURCHASES THAT WE CAN PUT ON OUR LISTING, AND. WELL, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE FEELING THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE MADE UP AS WE GO, AND IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. BUT THAT'S OKAY. I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BEING MADE UP, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THIS. WELL, I'M JUST POLICY. I JUST WANT TO SEE IT IN WRITING. IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER TO FOLLOW YOUR POLICY IF I CAN READ IT. UNDERSTOOD. LET'S LET THEM GET TO POLICY. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. 2.4 C IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION. [c. Discussion, consideration, and action to allow the Buildings and Yards department to purchase a 2026 Sure-Trac 7 x 16 HD Low Profile 14,000 lb Dump Trailer from Axis Trailers in the amount of $13,750. Multiple quotes were received. This unit will replace a trailer which was totaled in a not-at-fault accident. If approved, this amount would need to come out of contingency funds.] MY BUILDING AND YARDS TO PURCHASE A 2026. SURE. TAX SEVEN BY 16. HEAVY DUTY, LOW PROFILE, 1,400 POUND DUMP TRAILER FROM ACCESS TRAILER IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,750. MULTIPLE QUOTES QUOTES WERE RECEIVED. THIS UNIT WILL REPLACE A TRAILER WHICH WAS TOTALED IN A NOT AT FAULT ACCIDENT. IF APPROVED, THIS AMOUNT ALSO WOULD COME OUT OF CONTINGENCY FUND. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION GONZALEZ, SECONDED BY GILLESPIE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. 2.4 D. DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON REQUEST FROM COMMISSIONER RUBÉN GONZALEZ. [d. Discussion, consideration and action on request from Commissioner Ruben Gonzales, Road & Bridge, Precinct 3, to purchase a John Deere Z930M ZTrak (Zero Turn Mower) for the amount of $12,988.56 from Deere & Company through TX BuyBoard Grounds Mtnc Equip, Irrigation Contract RFP 706-23.] ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE TO PURCHASE A JOHN DEERE Z 930 MS TRACK Z TURN MOWER IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,988.56 FROM [01:20:05] BEER COMPANY THROUGH TEXAS BY BOARD GROUNDS EQUIPMENT IRRIGATION CONTRACT RFP 706 23. MOVE TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. GILLESPIE. SECONDED BY YARDLEY FOR APPROVAL. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. 2.4 DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM COMMISSIONER RUBÉN [e. Discussion, consideration and action on request from Commissioner Ruben Gonzales Pct #3 to purchase a 2026 Chevrolet Colorado from Caldwell Country Chevrolet (BuyBoard #724-23) for $40,380.00 with funds covered in current budget.] GONZALEZ. PRECINCT THREE TO PURCHASE A 2026 COLORADO FROM CALDWELL COUNTRY CHEVROLET BY BOARD. 724 DASH 23 FOR $40,380, WITH FUNDS COVERED IN CURRENT BUDGET. MOVE TO APPROVE A MOTION BY GILLESPIE. SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. 2.4 F. [f. Discussion, consideration and action on approving Phase I CR 1694 bridge drainage improvements located in Pct #3.] DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON APPROVING PHASE ONE. COUNTY ROAD 1694. BRIDGE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT. LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE. JOHN, THIS IS JUST. YES. COMMISSIONERS. I PASSED OUT THE HANDOUT. WE GOT A COUPLE OF QUOTES HERE. RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO GO TO A AR ENERGY SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $252,962. AND WHAT I CALL CAST IN PLACE OPTION. THIS WORK WILL CONSIST OF ADDING CAST IN PLACE WING WALLS AND ALSO ADDING THE TOE WALL, AND ALSO ADDING SOME EROSION PROTECTION ALONG THE APPROACHES TO THE BOXES. SO I HAVE ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS ON THIS. YES, SIR. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN LAYMAN'S TERMS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE BRIDGE THE WAY IT IS TODAY? NUMBER ONE, THE BRIDGE IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND. THIS WORK IS STRICTLY A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, AND IT CONSISTS OF ADDING WHAT I CONSIDER A TOTAL WALL THAT WILL PROTECT ANY UNDERMINING OF THE EXISTING CONCRETE BOX STRUCTURES. ALSO TO ACCOMMODATE MORE DRAINAGE EFFICIENCY WILL ADD WHAT WE CALL DRAINAGE WING WALLS. RIGHT NOW, THIS IS IT'S JUST A SQUARE. HO HAD FLARED WING WALLS TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE UNDER THE WATER. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. AND ALSO ALONG THE EMBANKMENTS. THIS THE DOWNS OR UPSTREAM SIDE OF THE EMBANKMENTS, OR AT WHAT WE CALL SOME BULL ROCK. AND THAT'LL PROTECT THE SLOPE EROSION THAT MAY OCCUR DURING HIGH FLOOD FREQUENCY EVENTS. ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN ORIGINALLY. CORRECT. THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. JOHN. BUT WE ARE CUTTING OUT HOW MANY FEET OF THE BRIDGE. APPROXIMATELY. APPROXIMATELY SEVEN, EIGHT FEET OF BRIDGE. NOT REALLY BRIDGE. IT'S EXISTING CAST IN PLACE EXTENSION. AND THAT WILL HELP REINFORCE THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS SO WE WHEN WE DO THE CAST IN PLACE OPTION FOR THE TALL WALL, THAT WILL HELP BETTER TIE INTO THE EXISTING PRECAST BOXES. OKAY. NOW THIS IS GOING TO GO ON THE TWO YEAR CYCLE FOR BRIDGE INSPECTIONS BY TEXDOT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. TO BECOME PART OF THE TEX BRIDGE INSPECTION PROGRAM. OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE. THE WORK TO ARE ENERGY SERVICES. 252,600 $962. I SECOND THAT WITH SOME PRECAUTIONS. SO AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT, LAST TIME AROUND, WE WERE TOLD THAT TEXDOT CAME AND INSPECTED IT AND IT PASSED ALL INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING WAS GOOD TO GO. SO HOW ARE WE HERE TODAY? NEEDING TO DO ANOTHER $252,000 WORTH OF WORK? THE INSPECTION WAS JUST STRICTLY FOR THE ROAD PORTION, ONLY TO MAKE SURE THE BRIDGE IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND FOR TRAFFIC. THIS IS NOT IMPACTING THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE STRUCTURE. IT IS MERELY THERE TO ACCOMMODATE AND IMPROVE DRAINAGE CHARACTERISTICS AND PROTECT THE UNDERLYING AND UNDERMINING INTEGRITY OF THE BRIDGE. ALSO, COMMISSIONER. THIS IS A THE FIRST PHASE. THERE'LL BE A SECOND PHASE. THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION. IF THIS IS PHASE ONE. CORRECT. WHEN? WHAT IS PHASE TWO AND WHAT'S THAT GOING TO COST US AND WHEN'S THAT GOING TO HAPPEN? PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO PHASE ONE WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ WHICH WILL BE IN NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT WILL VERY BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE WORK. AND THAT'LL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. ALSO THE SAME THING. WE'LL HAVE A TALL WALL, FLARED WING WALLS AND EROSION PROTECTION FOR DRAINAGE DOWN THERE. [01:25:03] YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T GONE OUT FOR QUOTES ON THAT ONE YET, BUT IT'LL BE VERY SIMILAR. JUST LIKE KIND OF LIKE A MIRROR. THIS IS BASICALLY ADDRESSING ONE SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YES. A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE INCOMPLETE, NOT DONE CORRECTLY, THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE TO FIX AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND GET UP TO PAR. COMMISSIONER UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. 2.5 DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM ROBERT KNOX TO PLACE 9960FT OF TWO INCH [g. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Robert Knox to place 1960 feet of a 2" water line on CR 1986 (Highland Ave) located in Pct. #4.] WATER LINE ON COUNTY ROAD 1986, WHICH IS HIGHLAND AVENUE, LOCATED IN PRECINCT FOUR. MOTION TO APPROVE. I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH JOHN ABOUT IT AND SEEN IT. SECOND. MOTION SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION. MAKE SURE THEY DO A GOOD JOB, JOHN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING FOR YOU. OKAY. 2.4 H DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM JESSICA NEWMAN, PURCHASING COORDINATOR ON AWARD IN IFB 2020 [h. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Chesca Newman, Purchasing Coordinator, on awarding IFB2025-013 Used Oil Distributor for Precinct 2.] 5013, WHICH IS A USED OIL DISTRIBUTOR FOR PRECINCT TWO. YOU HAVE THE BIDS UP THERE. SO WE RECEIVED ONE BID. WE DID GET ANOTHER BID, BUT IT WAS PAST THE DUE DATE SO THAT DID NOT COUNT. I WILL SAY THAT I I'LL START WITH FIRST OF ALL THIS IS IN MY BUDGET. IT'S IN MY EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PLAN. AND REGARDLESS IF WE STAY AS PRECINCTS OR WE GO TO A ROAD SUPERINTENDENT SYSTEM, THIS VEHICLE IS STILL NEEDED EITHER WAY. MY FOREMAN AND MECHANIC AND I DROVE UP TO SAN ANTONIO TO LOOK AT THIS VEHICLE IN PERSON, AND IT CHECKS OUT VERY GOOD. IT'S COOPER EQUIPMENT. THEY THEY ARE. THAT'S WHAT THE EXPERTISE IS, IS IN OIL DISTRIBUTORS. AND I'M VERY CONFIDENT PURCHASING IT THROUGH THEM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, MY ONLY QUESTION IS WE'VE GOT 4 OR 5 OTHER DISTRIBUTORS IN THE COUNTY, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THOSE DISTRIBUTORS JUST SIT. I MEAN, WE, WE WE DO A ROAD AND IT TAKES WEEKS TO DO THAT ROAD. WE TAKE IT OUT, USE IT FOR TWO DAYS, IT GOES BACK TO THE BARN. AND SINCE I'VE OFFERED MINE AND I KNOW REUBEN HAS OFFERED HIS AND SO FORTH, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXPENDITURE. IT'S STILL COUNTY TAX DOLLARS. NOW, I GUESS YOUR OLD TRUCK IS DEAD OR NOT WORKING. THE OLD TRUCK IS AN. IT IS, I BELIEVE, 1998 CHASSIS. IT STILL RUNS, BUT WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND MONEY MAINTAINING THAT TRUCK TO KEEP IT RUNNING. IT NEEDS TO BE RETIRED, YOU KNOW. THE QUESTION WAS, HOW OFTEN WERE YOU GOING TO USE IT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S FINE WITH ME TO A POINT. TO A POINT. ALL I'M SAYING, ALL I'M SAYING IS WE GOT SO MANY OF THEM, AND THEY ONLY GET USED FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THE REST TIME THAT THAT TRUCK SETS, WE CAN SAY THAT ABOUT A GOOD DEAL OF ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO GO TO UNION ROAD SYSTEM. WELL, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO EVEN WHEN WE GO TO OUR UNIT ROAD SYSTEM, THE EQUIPMENT WILL STILL BE REQUIRED. THAT IS CORRECT. WELL, I AGREE WITH SKI. I MEAN, I'VE GOT A BRAND NEW HALF MILLION DOLLAR OILER, AND WE USE IT A LOT, BUT WE DON'T USE IT EVERY DAY. AND LIKE I SAID, I'LL OFFER TO HELP YOU SEND A MAN IN AND THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE TO HELP YOU ANYTIME YOU. YOU GOT A ROAD THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR YOUR PRECINCT. I JUST CAN'T. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A SPECIALTY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. WHEN THERE'S THREE OTHER IN THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN USE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. OKAY, WELL, I GUESS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 2.4. H. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. SECOND. DO I HAVE A SECOND? CHANCE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY, I'LL DECLARE THAT THE MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE SETTING A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT OF HAVING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO HAS SOMETHING IN THEIR APPROVED BUDGET AND THEN NOT BEING ALLOWED TO PURCHASE THAT. [01:30:01] ALL RIGHT. OKAY. 2.4 I. DISCUSSION, [i. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grant Manager, on allowing the Auditor's Office to award or re-bid RFP2025-019 for D239 construction.] CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MELANIE COOPER, GRANT MANAGER AND ALLOWING THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO AWARD OR ARE REBID. RFP 2020 5-019 FOR D 239 CONSTRUCTION. GOOD MORNING. WE DID RECEIVE OUR BID. WE RECEIVED ONE BID PROPOSAL ON THIS ITEM. IT WAS ABOUT 10 MILLION OVER BUDGET. SO EITHER WE ACCEPT THE BID AS IS OR WE REBID THIS PROJECT. THE GLOW WILL ONLY ALLOW US TO REDUCE IT BY 18%. AND IT IS 10 MILLION OVER BUDGET. WITH THE ONE BID WE DID RECEIVE. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO OUT FOR REBID. I MAKE A MOTION. WE GO OUT FOR REBID ON THIS SECOND MOTION. SECOND. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT IS THIS PROJECT? THIS IS D 239. THIS IS A PROJECT WE'RE DOING DRAINAGE WORK IN TAFT AND SINTON. I'M VERY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS. AND WE LOOKED AT THE BIDS. THE BIDS HAD ONE BID COME IN AND IT WAS WAY, WAY RIDICULOUS. AND AGAIN, AG3 WAS THE ONE THAT PUT THIS PROPOSAL TOGETHER. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT WAS IN THAT PROPOSAL. AND AGAIN, IT AND AS WE I'D LIKE TO AS WE GO OUT FOR THIS BID, WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE SOME OF THE RAILROAD WORK AND SOME OF THE STUFF IN THERE TO GET THIS PROJECT WITHIN BUDGET SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. WE NEED TO DO IS SAY, AG3, THAT WAS ENOUGH. OKAY. YOU'RE YOU'RE WORKING. OKAY, OKAY. GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. 2.4 J DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MELANIE COOPER, [j. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grants Manager, to contract with RFP2025-012 for Emergency Management disaster food services to Cotton Commercial USA, Inc. - Primary not to exceed $200,000.00.] GRANTS MANAGER TO CONTRACT WITH RFP 2025 012 FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DISASTER FOOD SERVICES TO COTTON COMMERCIAL USA, INCORPORATED PRIMARILY, NOT TO EXCEED 200,000. DID THIS MOVE TO APPROVE MEGAN? A SECOND QUESTION. COMMENT. SORRY, IT'S NOT MR. SO YOU KNOW. HEY, DON'T KNOCK HIM IF YOU DON'T TRY HIM, YOU KNOW. OKAY. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, 2.4 K. [k. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grants Manager, to contract RFP2025-012 for Emergency Management disaster food services to Environmental Earth-Wise Inc. (EEW) - Secondary not to exceed $200,000.00.] DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON THE REQUEST FOR MELANIE COOPER, GRANTS MANAGER TO CONTRACT RFP 2020 5-012. OH, I'VE ALREADY DONE THAT ONE. I DIDN'T MARK IT OFF. WHAT, YOU GOT TWO OF THEM. GOT TWO OF THEM. OH THAT'S RIGHT THE PRIMARY ONE TO SECONDARY. SECONDARY. BOTH ARE THE SAME PRICE. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. DISASTER FOOD SERVICES TO ENVIRONMENTAL EARTH AND WISE INCORPORATED. SECONDARY. NOT TO EXCEED 200,000. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND OKAY. MOTION SECOND. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED ON THAT ONE, MAURICE. OKAY. IS THAT THE MR? THESE ARE HOT MEALS. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. NOW I CAN SKIP DOWN TO 2.4 L. [l. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grant Manager, on allowing the Auditor's Office to issue an RFQ for San Patricio County park planning funded with GOMESA funds.] DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MELANIE COOPER, GRANT MANAGER ON THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE, TO ISSUE AN RFQ FOR SAN PATRICIO COUNTY PARK PLANNING, FUNDED WITH GO MESA FUNDS. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY GONZALEZ. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR PARK PLANNING? IS THIS FOR ALL OF THE COUNTY PARKS? YES. WE WILL GO OUT FOR RFQ FOR ALL OF THE COUNTY PARKS BECAUSE WE WILL NEED SOME ENGINEERING OR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ON THERE. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT SETTLED UP. SO ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN GET THOSE PARKS ESTABLISHED. AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER IS VERY OVERZEALOUS ON GETTING THESE PARKS GOING AND UP AND RUNNING FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO WE ARE GOING AS FAST AS WE CAN. OUR PREVIOUS PARK PLAN LAND EXPIRED IN 2018 AND HASN'T BEEN REDONE. YES, WE'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD MASTER PLAN, DRAW DRAWINGS AND STUFF, GETTING IT UP. AND ONCE WE GET THAT MASTER PLAN AND WE GET THIS PLANNING DONE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS AND START DOING THOSE APPLICATIONS AND GET THAT PROCESS GOING SO WE CAN GET THESE PARKS OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. GOT A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOING IN. ITEM THREE. PERSONNEL. WE DO HAVE SOME PERSONNEL ISSUES THIS MORNING. [3. PERSONNEL-Employment and current employee status changes in accordance with the current personnel policies, County Budget, and State law with notification of such changes to the payroll division of the Treasurer's office.] CONSIDERATION ON EMPLOYEE SALARY 3.1 A. HERE IS RESIGNATION. DEPUTY COUNTY CLERK THREE, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE. NUMBER EIGHT, FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 105. STEP ONE. IN $3,185.19 PER MONTH EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 31ST, 2025. [01:35:11] 3.1 B PAMELA SERDA. OTHER ADMINISTRATION. CORRECTION. DEPUTY CLERK, COUNTY CLERK ONE. JUSTICE OF THE PEACE EIGHT. FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 131 $2,738.94 PER MONTH TWO. DEPUTY COUNTY CLERK TWO. FULL TIME RECORD NONEXEMPT GRADE 104. STEP ONE AT $2,875.89 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025. 3.1 C STEPHANIE COMO COMO COMO COMO. COMO. EMPLOYMENT DEPUTY COUNTY CLERK ONE. JUSTICE OF THE PEACE SIX. FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 103. STEP $1,738.94 PER MONTH EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 AND 3.1. D. JOANNA MAY JAMISON, EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT COUNTY CLERK, DEPUTY COUNTY CLERK TWO DISTRICT JP EIGHT FULL TIME REGULAR NON EXEMPT GRADE 104. STEP ONE AT $2,875.89 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2025. MOVE TO APPROVE 3.1 A THROUGH D SECOND A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THEM? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES 3.248 STATUS CHANGES. WE HAVE NONE THIS MORNING. NUMBER FOUR, EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE NONE. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED 37. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.