[1. Call meeting to order] [00:00:06] WELL, WELCOME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE PLEASURE, PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. UNDER THE TESTIFIED, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. WELL, AGAIN, GOOD MORNING. I HOPE EVERYONE STAYED COOL OVER THE WEEKEND. YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M 30 YEARS OLD YET, AND I CAN STILL GO OUT AND WORK IN THE HEAT ALL DAY LONG, BUT THAT DON'T WORK OUT. IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. BUT. STUFF. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. IS THERE ANY CITIZENS THIS MORNING? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CARD AND GRACIE HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CARDS. SO [4. Report from Judge, Commissioner or Department concerning an item/report of community interest.] WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. THEN TO OUR REPORT FROM JUDGES, COMMISSIONERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS. MRS. GORSKI. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON COUNTY ROAD 4373. IT'LL BE ANOTHER WEEK BEFORE WE FINISH UP. WE'RE HAULING LIMESTONE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. I GOT TWO TEAMS OUT AND WE HAD A FANTASTIC COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY MEETING IN TAFT AT THE BLACK LAND MUSEUM LAST SATURDAY. WE HAD A SPEAKER IN FROM THE FULTON MANSION DRESSED IN PERIOD COSTUME AND PERFORMED AS MR. FULTON AND GAVE US A GOOD HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED DOWN THERE. I THINK IT WAS OUTSTANDING. AND THOSE OF Y'ALL MISSED IT. YOU MISSED A GOOD PRESENTATION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. EARLY MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. ON THURSDAY. I'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO MEET WITH THE MAYOR OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON OUR WATER SITUATION. SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY. AND I'LL UPDATE THE COURT ON ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, JUDGE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. YES. WE'RE PROCESSING COUNTY ROAD 1059 AND SAN PATRICIO AREA. WE'RE ALSO PROCESSING COUNTY ROAD 502 AND 1849. WE'RE ALSO DID THE FIRST COURSE OF NUMBER THREE CHIP SEAL FOR THE EDROY AREA. WE'RE WORKING THERE ON STRIKER PARK AREA. WE'RE DOING PATCHING IN COUNTY ROAD 2047 TO ODEM AND COUNTY ROAD 647 MATHIS. WE GOT BRUSH PICKUP IN THE SINTON, RANCHO CHICO, ODEM, BETHEL AND DODD SUBDIVISION VERY OFF STREET, LA COLONIA. WE'RE MOWING IN THE AREA. COUNTY ROAD 1441 625 647 AND COUNTY ROAD 798 ON WEST SINTON. WE'RE DOING SIGN INSTALLATIONS IN THE LAKESHORE GARDEN AREA, DOING CULVERT RESETS THERE ON COUNTY ROAD 1298 AND 1947. ODOM AND WE'RE HAULING ALL THE DIRT OFF THE DRAINAGE PROJECT THERE. WE GOT AN ANGELINA STATES, AND WE GOT THE BRUSH PIT OPEN ON WEDNESDAYS. AND MATHIS, THOSE THAT WANT TO BRING OUT THE BRUSH. THANK YOU. NOTHING TO REPORT. I HAVE NOTHING EITHER THIS MORNING. DEPARTMENT HEADS. OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT NO DEPARTMENT HEADS THIS MORNING. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. WE'VE 1.5 IS OUR TWO [5. NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS: ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 18th, 2025 AT 9:00 A.M. FOR COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVE, RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND PRESERVATION PLANS FOR FY 2026. ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 18th, 2025 AT 9:05 A.M. FOR DISTRICT CLERK'S RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND ARCHIVE PLAN FOR FY 2026.] PUBLIC NOTICES THAT WE HAVE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST THE 18TH, 2025 AT 9 A.M. FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER, COUNTY CLERK, RECORD ARCHIVES, RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND PRESERVATION PLANS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. AND THE OTHER ONE IS ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 18TH, 2025 AT 9:05 A.M. FOR DISTRICT CLERK MANAGEMENT AND ARCHIVE PLAN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026. AND WE'LL GET TO THOSE NEXT NEXT MONDAY. 1.5 A. CHRIS DO WE DO THIS ONE NOW OR DO WE WAIT TILL THE END OR WE DO EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST. WHAT IT'S. IT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION, JUDGE. IF YOU WANT TO DO 1.5 A FIRST, YOU CAN DO THAT FIRST. WE CAN DO IT NOW. [a. ANNOUNCEMENT - San Patricio County Commissioners Court will have a Workshop at the end of the Regular Commissioners Court of August 11, 2025, 9:00 AM, at 1301 E. Sinton Street, Suite C, Sinton, TX Commissioners Courtroom, to include Elected Officials and Department Heads.] IT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION, JUDGE ANNOUNCEMENT IS SANTA ROSA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP AT THE END OF THE REGULAR COMMISSIONERS COURT SESSION ON AUGUST 11TH, 2025, 9 A.M. AT 1301 EAST CENTER STREET, SUITE C. SENATE IN TEXAS COMMISSIONERS COURT ROOM TO INCLUDE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS. SO WE'LL DO THAT ONE WHEN WE CONCLUDE BEFORE [00:05:02] WE GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. UNDER ITEM TWO, THIS IS THE DELIBERATION AND [1. Approval of minutes] CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GORSKI. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JORDAN. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION TO APPROVE. UNANIMOUS. OKAY. 2.2 [a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.] A EXAMINATION CONSIDERATION OF ALL CLAIMS AGAINST SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. SECOND MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YARDLEY. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE BILLS PRESENTED? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES [b. Consideration and action on Budget Line Items, Transfers, and Amendments.] UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. 2.2 C IS BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. AND WE DO HAVE EIGHT OF THEM THIS MORNING. FIRST ONE IS DISTRICT COURT TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AND A TRAVEL. AN EXPENSE. THE BUILDING AND YARDS TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. OUT OF 434 INTO MISCELLANEOUS SERVICES AND CHARGES EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, TRANSFER AND FUNDS FROM TRAVEL AND GENERAL SUPPLIES. ANOTHER ONE OUT OF A BUILDING IN YARDS. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE OUT OF 634 INTO BUILDING REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, AND TO REPAIR MATERIALS OUT OF THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM N.C.O. FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT INTO OVERTIME, AND CONFERENCE AND ASSOCIATION DUES. THE NEXT ONE IS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND PERMIT TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM TRAVEL INTO SOFTWARE, LICENSE AND SUPPORT. NEXT ONE IS OUT OF COUNTY COURT, TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM JURY EXPENSE INTO INSURANCE BONDS AND PREMIUMS, AND THE LAST ONE IS OUT OF DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM COURT COSTS INTO VEHICLE REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE, GENERAL SUPPLIES, FUEL OIL AND LUBRICANTS, AND BOOK AND SUBSCRIPTIONS. I MOVE TO APPROVE BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS, SECOND SECOND. MOTION SECOND BY YEARLY APPROVED BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. 2.2 C [c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ] IS CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON BANK RECONCILIATION. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. THIS WEEK'S HEALTH TRANSFER IS $64,400. OUR SECTION 125 TOTALS $3,413.88. WE HAVE FIVE ASSERTED CLAIMS FOR A TOTAL OF $8,017.84. OUR ESCROW TOTAL IS $2,791.16, AND OUR JULY 2025 SALES TAX IS $385.71. I MOVE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. SECOND MOTION, SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS TO MISS GARCIA? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THANK [d. Possible action, discussion and/or presentations of budget requests for Fiscal Year 2026 Budget and related matters. ] YOU. 2.2 D IS IT POSSIBLE? ACTION DISCUSSION PRESENTATION ON BUDGET REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET AND RELATED MATTERS. ANY REQUESTS? YEAH, I'VE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR $250 FOR DUES FOR THE DAY, AND I'LL GET A NEW W-9 FROM THEM THIS WEEK. AND I THINK YOU HAD A REQUEST, I THINK, FROM THE DISASTER MANAGEMENT GROUP, I THINK, YEAH, THAT WAS SENT THERE. YOU GOT THAT TOO. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? DISASTER RECOVERY GROUP, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU GOT THAT REQUEST, RIGHT? YEAH. UNDER SIGNED LETTER. YEAH. VERY GOOD. THAT'S IT. JUDGE ME. NOTHING [1. Consideration and action regarding August 7, 2025 Salary Grievance Hearing Committee recommendations as follows: 1) SPC Constable, Pct 1 Steve Hutchins - Recommend increase to $66,000.00 yearly effective 1/1/2026 2) SPC Constable, Pct 2 Frank Cantu Jr. - Recommend increase to $66,000.00 yearly effective 1/1/2026 3) SPC Constable, Pct 4 Paul Good - Recommend increase to $66,000.00 yearly effective 1/1/2026 4) SPC Constable, Pct 5 Sean Orsak - Recommend increase to $66,000.00 yearly effective 1/1/2026 5) SPC Constable, Pct 6 Kody Farenthold - Recommend increase to $66,000.00 yearly effective 1/1/2026 6) SPC Constable, Pct 8 James Easley, Recommend increase to $66,000.00 yearly effective 1/1/2026.] ELSE. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO 2.2 D ONE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING AUGUST 7TH, 2025. SALARY GRIEVANCE HEARING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION AS FOLLOWS. NUMBER ONE, CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE, STEVE HUTCHINSON RECOMMENDED INCREASE TO $66,000 A YEAR, EFFECTIVE ONE 126. CONSTABLE TWO. FRANKLIN TWO. RECOMMENDED INCREASE TO $66,000 A YEAR YEARLY, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026. CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR PAUL GOOD RECOMMENDED INCREASE TO $66,000 A YEAR, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026. CONSTABLE PRECINCT FIVE SEAN ORSAK RECOMMENDED INCREASE TO $66,000 A YEAR, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026. CONSTABLE PRECINCT SIX CODY FARENTHOLD [00:10:03] RECOMMENDED INCREASE TO $66,000 YEARLY EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026, CONSTABLE PRECINCT EIGHT JAMES EASLEY RECOMMENDED INCREASE $66,000 A YEAR YEARLY, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026. ALL RIGHT. MOVE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE. SECOND MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY THE COURSE. ANY QUESTIONS? SO, JUDGE, I GUESS I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF ALL OF OUR CONSTABLES WORK AS A CONSTABLE FULL TIME, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD CONSTABLES WHO OWNED OTHER BUSINESSES OR HAD OTHER JOBS, AND SO THEIR CONSTABLE JOB WASN'T NECESSARILY A FULL TIME JOB. DO WE KNOW IF ALL THESE NOW WORK AS FULL TIME CONSTABLES? JUST MEETING AND TALKING WITH THEM DURING THE COMMITTEE HEARING WE HAD. YES. AND WERE INCREASING THEIR PAY TO 66. WHAT IS OUR HIGHEST PAID CONSTABLE MAKING RIGHT NOW? I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE PAYS DUE TO LAST YEAR'S WE. WERE 62. YEAH. PRECINCT ONE. COMMISSIONER 62, SIX, 48. AND ALL THE OTHER CONSTABLES MAKE 62 OH 64 THE COMMITTEE CHOSE TO PUT ALL OF THEM AT ONE LEVEL, WHICH IS AT 66,000. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT. ACTUALLY, I AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK WAS THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY I ATTENDED, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER THREE ATTENDED, AND OF COURSE THE JUDGE SAID ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT IT WAS ALSO BROADCAST ONLINE SO YOU COULD SIT THERE AND LISTEN TO SEE WHAT THE CONSTABLES ARE DOING. I AM SO PROUD OF OUR CONSTABLES, OF WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED FROM WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. IT IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR FOR THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS TO SEE IT ACTUALLY GETTING THE JOB, GETTING DONE. YEP I AGREE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A KIND OF A SOME KIND OF REPORT HERE NEAR FUTURE OF SOME STATS OR SOMETHING. MAYBE ARRESTS BEING MADE. CITATIONS PER PAPER SERVED OR KIND OF A PROGRESS REPORT OF WHAT WAS GOING ON THAT CAN BE DONE. THE COUNTY JUDGE, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO ALL OF THE CONSTABLES JUST WANTING TO KIND OF AN UPDATE QUARTERLY, MONTHLY, WHATEVER Y'ALL WOULD PREFER, AND THEN JUST HAVE THEM COME TALK TO YOU ON THEIR PROGRESS. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY. OH NO. JUST OR EVEN OR SOMETHING. EVERY I WANTED QUARTERLY IS FINE. YEAH. I'LL TELL YOU THE PRESENTATIONS THAT THOSE CONSTABLES MADE THAT DAY. IF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO, THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. BECAUSE I TELL YOU, THEY GAVE A VERY THOROUGH EXPLANATION OF WHAT THEY DO STUFF. SO I LIKE COMMISSIONERS, OF COURSE, I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS GROUP OF GUYS THAT WE GOT THAT ARE CONSTABLES NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AROUND THE COUNTY. ABSOLUTELY. ALWAYS BUSY, ALWAYS BUSY DOING THAT. I SEE MR. EASLEY THERE. I SEE MR. HUTCHINSON IN THE BACK. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING FOR THIS COUNTY. Y'ALL ARE REALLY BRINGING, YOU KNOW, THE POSITION OF CONSTABLE UP TO REAL HIGH LEVEL IN THIS COUNTY. SO THANK YOU ALL. AND I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM ALL EQUALLY. SO THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER TO CALL THE QUESTION. OKAY. AND A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE. I OPPOSED [e. Consideration and action on No-new revenue tax rate and voter-approval tax rate calculations, determine proposed tax rates and schedule any necessary public hearings.] SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 2.2 IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE AND VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE CALCULATION DETERMINED PROPOSED TAX RATES AND SCHEDULE ANY NECESSARY PUBLIC HEARING. MARCY. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. LAST WEEK I HANDED OUT THE 2025 TAX RATE AT A 3.5% INCREASE. SO TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK THAT UP AND DECIDE WHAT YOU WANTED TO PROPOSE. SO AND THEN THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO PROPOSE FOR THE MO AND THE INS, AND THEN WE'LL KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OR JUST A MEETING. AND I'LL PUT IT IN THE PAPER, TOO. IT HAS TO BE IN THE PAPER. AND ALL OF IT'S IN, IN OUR RATING, SIR. WE'RE ALL UNDER THE NR. OKAY. I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE. WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL ME. YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME A PROPOSED M ANONYMOUS. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, I HAVE EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE, SO JUST JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT WHATEVER WE PROPOSE TODAY AND WE POST, WE CAN'T GO HIGHER THAN [00:15:03] THAT. SO WE ARE HAVING A WORKSHOP LATER ON. AND AFTER THE MEETING. WHEN DO YOU NEED TO PROPOSE? RIGHT NOW. WE CAN'T GO HIGHER THAN THAT. WELL THEN, WITHOUT REPUBLISHING, YOU NEED AN ANSWER BY TODAY. I MEAN, YES, SIR. I MEAN, YOU CAN. THERE'S YOUR N AND R IF YOU IF YOU I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU PROPOSE TODAY AND I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN THE PAPER, YOU CAN'T GO ABOVE IT UNLESS WE REPUBLISH. RIGHT. AND SO THEN WE'VE GOT SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS THERE BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE I HAVE TO HAVE IT TO THE PAPER AT LEAST A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME. AND AT LEAST FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING. SO. IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH AN AND R, YOU CAN'T GO ABOVE THAT. YOU CAN ALWAYS GO LOWER, BUT YOU CAN'T GO ABOVE WHATEVER WE DECIDE AT THIS MOMENT. RIGHT. PATRICK'S GOT HIS HAND ON IT. OH, YEAH. YEAH. SO WE'RE IN THE WORKSHOP. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED RATE. FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE WILL BE 0.080411, WHICH IS LAST YEAR'S RATE. RIGHT. THE RATE PROPOSED WILL BE 0.292105. AND THE DEBT RATE INS RATE WILL BE 0.037245. SO WE WILL BE AT NEAR OR BELOW FOR THE PROPOSED RATES. WAS. 0.292105. OKAY. AND ROAD AND BRIDGE ROAD AND BRIDGE .080411. SO JUDGE, CAN WE COME BACK TO THIS AFTER THE WORKSHOP? YEAH. YES. IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE ITEMS TO DISCUSS YET ON THE BUDGET TO MAKE THE DECISION TODAY FOR HER. THAT'S CORRECT. SO? SO ARE WE GOING TO IN THE WORKSHOP? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO. ARE YOU GOING TO RECONVENE AFTER THE WORKSHOP? ARE YOU GOING TO? YES. SO WE CAN TABLE IT FOR NOW UNTIL AFTER THE WORKSHOP. CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S UP TO YOU. OR WE CAN GO TO THE END. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT TODAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO TABLE IT. WE CAN JUST MOVE IT TO AFTER THE WORKSHOP. RECESS FOR THE WORKSHOP. RECONVENE FOR THE FOR TO VOTE. SO THE IN AND OUT OF THE WAY I HAVE IT ON HERE IS 0.448694. I MEAN IT'S JUST IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN JUST TABLE IT TILL AFTER THE WORKSHOP IF YOU WANT. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON WORKSHOP CONSIDERATION, BEING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTIVE WORKSHOP. IT'S NOT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION JUDGE. IT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION. YOU CAN DO WORKSHOP THEN COME BACK TO THIS. OR SINCE YOU HAVE PRETTY CLEARLY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT AN HOUR BELOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO IN AN HOUR RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANTED TO. IT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION. JUDGE. NOT ON THE WORKSHOP. I MEAN, UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. SO LET'S LET'S DO THE WORKSHOP AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THIS CONSIDERATION WITH THE WORKSHOP, WHATEVER WE HAVE. SO WE WILL MOVE THIS DOWN TO ITEM SEVEN. I THINK THAT'S THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. THANK YOU SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. ITEM SEVEN. [3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:] OKAY. NEXT WILL BE 2.3 WHICH IS GOING TO BE OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. AND WE DO HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR UNDER THAT. IS THERE ANY ONE OF THE FOUR NEED TO BE PULLED TO DISCUSS INDIVIDUALLY OR WE VOTE ON THEM AS A GROUP. OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THEM. 2.3 A IS ACCEPTING RECORD TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS MONTHLY STATEMENT OF COLLECTION OF THE MONTH ENDING 731 OF 25. 2.3 B CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM GABRIEL ARROYO. ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FOR THE RENEWAL OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES BETWEEN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ODEM. 2.3 C DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION OF REQUEST FROM A GABRIEL ARROYO, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR TO PURCHASE A 2026 CHEVROLET COLORADO FOR BY TWO CREW CAB FROM CALDWELL COUNTRY CHEVROLET AND CALDWELL, TEXAS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THIS VEHICLE WILL BE USED FOR THE USE OF HEALTH INSPECTOR AS [00:20:04] BY BOARD NUMBER 724 DASH 23, FOR A PRICE OF $35,030 AND 2.3 D IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM GABRIEL ARROYO, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR, TO PURCHASE A 2026 CHEVROLET COLORADO FOR BY TWO CREW CAB THROUGH CALDWELL COUNTRY CHEVROLET FROM CALDWELL, TEXAS FOR THE HEALTH INSPECTOR. BY BOARD NUMBER 742 DASH 23 FOR A PRICE OF $35,030. AND OKAY. THAT'S IT. MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2.3 A THROUGH D. I'LL SECOND WITH A QUESTION. I GOT A MOTION BY THE SECONDED BY YARDLEY QUESTION. SO THE LAST TWO FOR THE VEHICLES THEY BOTH SAY THEY'LL BE USED FOR HEALTH INSPECTOR. CORRECT. SO MULTIPLE HEALTH INSPECTORS, MULTIPLE VEHICLES. HOW MANY VEHICLES THE HEALTH INSPECTORS CURRENTLY HAVE? WE HAVE WE HAVE TWO. THEY'RE LIKE ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD. AND I'M LOOKING I GOT THE MONEY APPROVED MY BUDGET FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR. BOTH BOTH VEHICLES ARE ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD. AND THEY GOT PRETTY HOT UP IN HIGH MILEAGE. AND THE MAINTENANCE TO KEEP UP WITH THEM HAS BEEN PRETTY EXPENSIVE OVER THE YEARS. SO I ASKED FOR THESE FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR 2025 FOR TWO TWO EMPLOYEES. I HAD A QUESTION BASICALLY, IS HOW MANY HEALTH INSPECTIONS ARE WE DOING NOW? HEALTH INSPECTIONS. WE NORMALLY HAVE TWO HEALTH INSPECTORS, AND WE NORMALLY DO LIKE 3 TO 5 PER DAY, PER DAY. AND BACK IN THE DAY I CAN REMEMBER I HATE TO USE MY MEMORY AGAIN, BUT WE USED TO HAVE LIKE A KITCHEN COPS TYPE THING WHERE WE ACTUALLY GAVE AWARDS TO THOSE PEOPLE DOING OUTSTANDING ON THEIR INSPECTIONS. THEY QUIT GETTING OUTSTANDINGS OR WELL, THEY USED TO COME SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TRYING TO START SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN. I USED TO COME OVER HERE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BUT I REMEMBER THERE WAS SEVERAL. THIS WAS BEFORE MY TIME. BUT JUST FROM REMEMBERING THAT THERE SAID THERE WAS LIKE LINES AND LINES OF PEOPLE BECAUSE EVERY EVERYONE WAS GETTING HIGH SCORES. BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVE TO GIVE THEM MAYBE POST SOMETHING ON THEIR DOOR OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, PRAISE FOR ZERO DEMERITS, WHICH IS A PERFECT SCORE. WELL, I THINK I THINK LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHICH RESTAURANTS ARE REALLY GOOD TO EAT AT. SO THAT HELPS PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY TOURIST DOLLARS, BUT AND WE DO HAVE THE RESTAURANT SCORES ONLINE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YES I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. I THINK WE NEED TO REWARD THEM FOR, FOR GOOD, CLEAN SERVICE. OKAY. GABRIEL, ARE THESE TRUCKS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE REPLACING AND YOU GOT NEW TRUCKS. NOW, WHAT'S THE MILEAGE ON THOSE TRUCKS? ON THE TRUCKS OR THE CARS? OKAY. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE LITTLE. LITTLE FORD FOCUSES. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. NO, I THOUGHT I'D BE ABLE TO USE THAT. OH, NO OTHER LITTLE CARS. BUT RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT TRUCK OVER IN PRECINCT ONE. BARN. THAT OVER ON SCHOFIELD. YES. SO THAT IT'S BACK IN THE CORNER OVER THERE. YES, I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING EQUIPMENT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT RUNNING AGAIN. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. SO FOLLOW UP FOR THE AUDITOR. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US COME UP WITH A. IF NOT A VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PLAN, AT LEAST A MAPPING OUT OF OUR VEHICLES, HOW MANY VEHICLES THE COUNTY OWNS, HOW MANY MILES ARE ON THEM, WHAT AGE THEY ARE. I KNOW THE SHERIFF DOES THIS. HE BASICALLY HAS A BIG LONG LIST OF ALL THE SHERIFF VEHICLES, SO HE CAN KIND OF KNOW WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED WHEN. AND I KNOW WE'RE USING THE BIBLE WORD, BUT I CAN'T THINK. I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT WE COULD GET BETTER DEALS IF WE KNEW UP FRONT HOW MANY VEHICLES WE'RE GOING TO GET IN A PARTICULAR YEAR AND DO SOME SORT OF BULK PURCHASE OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE SEEM TO BUY A LOT OF VEHICLES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND WE JUST DO IT DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT, AND THERE'S NO REAL PLAN FOR THAT OVERALL. SO I CAN COME TALK TO YOU OFFLINE ABOUT THAT, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US AT LEAST START MAPPING OUT COUNTY OWNED VEHICLES, THE MOTOR POOL ONES AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT THAT MOTOR POOL THAT LOOK LIKE THEY PROBABLY HAVE REACHED THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE HOMER SAID THAT HE APPROACHED ALL THE LOCAL CAR DEALERS TO TRY TO GET THEM ON THE BUY BOARD, AND MOST OF THEM SAID, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUY BOARD CAR DEALERS HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND ON SECOND THING, ON ON VEHICLE TRACKING, THIS NEW PROGRAM THAT WE JUST PURCHASED THIS YEAR FOR A VERY HIGH AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND EACH OF US COMMISSIONERS KICKED IN FOR THE JUDGES PROGRAM. WE'LL ALSO TRACK VEHICLES. AND I KNOW MY GUYS GOT ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT IN THERE, AND THEY'RE MEETING WEEKLY ONLINE TO, YOU KNOW, ALL [00:25:07] THE MAINTENANCE AND STUFF IS BEING PUT INTO THAT PROGRAM. AN, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE TRACKING IS. AND WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THAT PROGRAM. WE NEED TO GET START USING IT. YOU'LL DO A WHOLE LOT. IT'LL DO A LOT. IT'LL TRACK EQUIPMENT. IT'LL TELL YOU WHEN THAT VEHICLE'S COMING UP FOR MAINTENANCE, OIL CHANGE, WHATEVER, A LUBE JOB. WHAT? BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T USE THE PROGRAM, WE'RE JUST WASTING TAX MONEY. POINT OF ORDER, YOUR HONOR. WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF OFF THE AGENDA NOW. GOING ASTRAY. I GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. UNANIMOUS. OKAY. INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, 2.4 A IS AN UPDATE ON [a. Update on ARPA Projects by John A. Hernandez, P.E. County Engineer:: including Animal Shelter, Juvenile Detention, Fiber Optic and Civic Center.] ARPA PROJECTS BY JOHN HERNANDEZ, COUNTY ENGINEER, INCLUDING ANIMAL SHELTER, JUVENILE DETENTION, FIBER OPTICS, AND THE CIVIC CENTER. ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST ONE HERE IS ON THE ANIMAL. I MEAN, THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THIS IS THE CONTRACTOR IS BY BECK BROTHERS. PROGRESS IS GOING A LITTLE BIT SLOW. WE'RE ONLY ABOUT 21% COMPLETE. BUT A COUPLE OF POSITIVE THINGS. 21% OF THE BIRDS KNOW WE POURED SOME FOUNDATION WORK AND THEY GOT THE FOR THE FOR THE BUILDING. THEY HAVE THE SITE WORK ALREADY DONE AS WELL. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME DIRT THAT BEGAN LAST WEEK HAULING OUT THERE A COUPLE OF GOOD THINGS. THE COUNTY'S FINALLY SECURED. THE CONTRACTORS FINALLY SECURED A WATER TAP. AND THEN I SPOKE WITH THE AEP AND WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE SOME TEMPORARY POWER WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. CAN WE SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THESE GUYS? I THINK THEY'RE JUST MOVING WAY, WAY TOO SLOW. WE HAVE WE CAN INCLUDE YOU. WE HAVE MONTHLY, WEEKLY, NO, EVERY OTHER WEEK MEETINGS WITH THESE GUYS. AND WE CAN ASSURE IT INCLUDES YOU PART OF THE TEAM WITH THEM. EXCUSE ME. I'LL MEET WEEKLY EVERY OTHER WEEK. WEEK BY WEEK. YES. YEAH. IT'S USUALLY IN PERSON, ROUGH PLUMBING OR ANYTHING GOING IN. I THINK THEY'RE WAY BEHIND ON ON THEIR SCHEDULE. YEAH. WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET BY THE END OF THE YEAR? THAT'S PER CONTRACT OKAY. THAT'S PER CONTRACT. ALL THESE ARPA PROJECTS ARE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THAT INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL, CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. YES, SIR. I AGREE IT SEEMS TO BE GOING VERY SLOWLY. IS THERE A PERFORMANCE PENALTY ON THERE. NO, NO THERE'S NOT. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. DO THEY IS THERE A ANY KIND OF PERFORMANCE PENALTY OR ANYTHING ON THEM IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE WITH NOT NOT ON THESE TYPE OF CONTRACTS. NO SIR. I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT ON, ON THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS. WE HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES FOR SUBSTANTIAL DELAY AND HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC PROVISION. I THINK IT'S. HOW MUCH? IT'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT A DAY. BUT WE DO HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. OKAY. THANKS TO GABRIEL AND CRYSTAL FOR THEY KEEP TABS ON THIS. KEEP ME INFORMED OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. SO APPRECIATE THE ASSISTANCE. THE NEXT PROJECT HERE IS ANOTHER ONE BY BECK BROTHERS AND WE. EVERY OTHER WEEK WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THE WITH THEM AS WELL. WE COMBINE THE JV EXPANSION AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER AT THE SAME TIME. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS ABOUT 40% COMPLETE. AND THIS ONE HERE, THERE'S A FEW LITTLE HICCUPS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. BUT WE MADE IT TO THE BACK. RIGHT THERE. THIS IS A PARTICULARLY LIGHT GAUGE STEEL. SO DURING DURING THE TRANSPORTATION PROCESS GOT SOME BENT MEMBERS IN THERE. BUT WE HAD A HALF STRUCTURAL ENGINEER PILLAR ENGINEERING CAME OUT MADE EVALUATION. AND THE GOOD THINGS THESE ARE NOT MONOLITHIC TYPE TRUSSES. THESE COME A LITTLE PIECES. SO ALL WE DO IS UNSCREW THEM, PUT A NEW MEMBER IN. THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER GUY WILL MAKE AN INSPECTION AND HE'LL SIGN OFF. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PARTICULAR MEMBERS. THANKS TO CASSIE FOR THEIR COOPERATION. THEIR TEAM. CAN I KNOW THE JUVENILE? I KNOW IT'S A 24 OVER SEVEN TYPE OPERATION. AND EVERY NOW AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE [00:30:05] ELECTRICAL OR CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING HAS TO BE SHUT DOWN FOR A DAY OR SO. SO I KNOW IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE TO THE CUSTODIANS THERE. SO THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION. WELL, HOW MANY OF THESE STRUCTURAL STEEL MEMBERS WERE DAMAGED IN SHIPPING? DO YOU KNOW? I BELIEVE THERE'S PROBABLY 3 OR 4 OF THEM ON THERE, BUT THEY'VE THEY'VE THE MANUFACTURERS ARE AWARE OF IT AND THEY SET PIECES IN. APPARENTLY IT'S A COMMON PRACTICE FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF TRUSS STRUCTURE SINCE IT'S MADE OUT OF LIGHT GAUGE MATERIAL. IT'S THE NEXT PROJECT HERE IS THE FIBER OPTIC JOB. THIS JOB IS ABOUT 52% COMPLETE. MOST OF THE SURFACE WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THIS IS MORE OR LESS THE FINISHED PRODUCT. MOST OF THESE LOCATIONS THIS THIS ONE HERE IS SHOWING THE JUNCTION BOXES IN THERE. AND THEN PARTICULARLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WHAT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE SAN PATRICIO FIBER OPTIC LABEL. SO ANY ANYBODY WHO WHO COMES IN THAT FACILITY IS GOING TO KNOW THAT THOSE BELONG TO THE COUNTY. SO THANKS AGAIN FOR LIKE I SAID, ALL THESE ARPA PROJECTS, A BIG TEAM EFFORT COORDINATING WITH IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WORKING WITH STEVEN AND SAM. AND SO THIS IS QUITE A BIT OF EFFORT FOR THE COUNTY. AND STEVEN, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE. NO WE'RE GOOD. YEAH WE'RE GOOD. SO FAR. WE HEAR AGAIN THESE ARE PAPER PRODUCTS WE MEET EVERY OTHER WEEK. AND I THINK TOMORROW WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION UPDATE MEETING. AND YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT TO BE INCLUDED YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE. SO. JUST TO GO BACK TO THAT FIBER OPTIC, EVER SINCE MAY, THE CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN WORKING WITH UP RAILROAD. AND FINALLY IT WAS TWO ISSUES. WE FINALLY GOT THE CONSTRUCTION METHOD APPROVED FOR THE BORING. AND THAT'S AT TWO LOCATIONS. SO FINALLY HAD THAT RESOLVED. BUT NOW, TO SCHEDULE THE ACTUAL PROCESS, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE RAILROADS, THE FLAGGING COMPANY. THEY WILL NOT ALLOW ANY WORK UNTIL WE HAVE A THE RAILROADS, FLAGGING CONTRACTOR APPROVED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO PREPAY ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, GET IT ALL, GET ALL THE KINDS OF AGREEMENTS. AND SO AS OF MONDAY, AUGUST 4TH, WE FINALLY HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE OBSERVER AGREEMENT WITH THE UP RIDER. BUT IT'S A SONG. IT'S BEEN A LONG, SLOW GOING PROCESS WORKING WITH THESE GUYS, BUT STILL, THE CONTRACTOR ANTICIPATES THE COMPLETION OF THE FIBER OPTIC BY SOMETIME BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SO WE'LL BE WELL WITHIN THE COMPLETION DATE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I DON'T HAVE ANY PICTURES ON THIS ONE, BUT THIS IS THE CIVIC CENTER GENERATOR RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE THE SLAB POURED OUT THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE FINALIZING THE AGREEMENT. I MEAN, THE AT THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH, THE APPROVAL DRAWINGS. AND THAT'S IF IT'S FRIDAY, AUGUST 8TH AND IT GOES THROUGH HALF ENGINEERS, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE SUPPLIER AND EVERYTHING MEETS THE SPECIFICATIONS. THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT ON THE CIVIC CENTER GENERATORS IS ONLY ABOUT 23% COMPLETE. AND THAT'S THROUGH THE CONTRACTORS AT DC ENERGY. OF COURSE, FOR PRECINCT ONE GENERATOR THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT WRAPPED UP. ALL WE HAVE LEFT ON THAT ONE IS THE RETAINAGE PAYMENTS FOR NO CONTRACTOR CAME BY AND ASKED ME FOR A LOAD OF DIRT SO HE COULD SMOOTH OUT THE ROUGH EDGES AND HOLES THAT SANK IN. WE BROUGHT THE DIRT OVER IT, SITTING IN A REAL NICE PILE NEXT TO THE GENERATOR, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE DIRT'S THERE. OKAY, I AIN'T GOING TO SPREAD IT. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. LASTLY, THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE ARPA DEAL, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. AND THIS IS A THAT STEEL MESH THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO OVER THE GENERATOR. BUT UNFORTUNATELY RENT IS A LITTLE BIT OF MINOR ISSUES. YOU CAN TELL RIGHT HERE THAT THERE'S A BEAM A STEEL BEAM THAT GOES THROUGH HERE. BUT HERE'S THE PART THAT'S SUPPOSED TO TIE IT DOWN. BUT SEE, RIGHT HERE THERE'S A GAP. IT'S [00:35:01] SUPPOSED TO GO OVER HERE. AND THEN THERE'S SOME CURVATURE. THEN COIN UP LINE UP WITH THE OUTER WALL. AND BUT THE CONTRACTOR ARE A LOCAL FIRM IS WORKING VERY HARD TO COMPLETE THIS JOB. IT HAD TO WORK WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET SOME EXTRA PARTS AND EXTRA WELDING, EXTRA LABOR, THINGS LIKE THAT, TO MAKE EVERYTHING KIND OF FIT. THERE YOU GO. HOW MUCH IS THE CHANGE ORDER? RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY ABOUT $15,000. AND YOU CAN TELL RIGHT HERE, SEE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE. THESE MEMBERS, THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT FLUSH WITH THE WALL. SO WHAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO DO, HE HAS TO CUT THE WALL A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT FLUSH. THEN HE HAD TO ORDER HIS NEW LONGITUDINAL MEMBER TO BRACE IT DOWN. BUT HE'S HE'S ORDERED THE PARTS. AND HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS HE'LL WRAP IT UP. HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE. SEE HOW THIS ONE'S A SKEWED PART FOR WHATEVER REASON. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. YOU REMEMBER THIS IS FROM A PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR. AND SO EVIDENTLY THERE'S PARTS THINGS JUST LINED UP WITH THE OTHER WALL FOR WHATEVER REASON. BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS. SO THE PARTS THAT ARE OUT OF ALIGNMENT, THERE IS THIS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S NO WAY TO GET THAT COVERED UNDER THE ORIGINAL. NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. NO. WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR? BASS CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT FOR THEM TO PUT THE STEEL CAGE IN THERE. BUT AS FOR PART OF THE HISTORY, YOU KNOW, WE CLOSED UP THE JOB LAST YEAR, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GENERATOR IN PLACE TO PUT THE COVER ON. SO THERE'S A LONG SIX, EIGHT MONTH DELAY BEFORE WE GOT THE GENERATOR. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CLOSED OUT THE CONTRACT. BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THE GENERATOR AND NOW IT COMES TO PUT THE PIECES OVER THE STEEL, THE STEEL CAGE OVER THE GENERATOR, JUST THINGS AREN'T LINING UP LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. IS THIS STRUCTURE GOING TO BE WIND RATED AT THE SAME AS THE REST OF THE EOC? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. BECAUSE THE THIS PLAN HERE, THE STEEL MESH WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT OF FROM. A CUT. RIGHT. AND THE ARCHITECT TEAM WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL [b. Consideration and action on request from Ruben Gonzales, Commissioner Precinct #3 to purchase a 2020 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 from Al Willeford Chevrolet for the amount of $26,285.69] RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU JONATHAN. GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO 2.4 B CONSIDERATION ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM GONZALEZ COMMISSIONER PRECINCT THREE TO PURCHASE A 2020 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 1500 FROM EL WILLEFORD CHEVROLET FOR THE AMOUNT OF $26,285.69. SECOND. SECOND, AND QUESTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [1. Accept and Record the Contract for IFB2025-006 Civics Center Flooring with Witherspoon Construction, LLC for $58,649, with possible discussion. ] UNANIMOUS 2.4 C ONE IS. ACCEPT AND RECORD THE CONTRACT FOR IFB 2025 006 CIVIC CENTER FLOORING WITH WEATHERSPOON CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR $58,649 WITH POSSIBLE DISCUSSION. MOTION TO ACCEPT SECOND MOTION SECONDED BY GILLESPIE. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. UNANIMOUS. 2.4 C TWO [2. Discussion, consideration and action on Change Order No. 1 on Agreement with Witherspoon Construction for SPC Civics Center Epoxy Flake Flooring System to cover Civic Center Flooring removal (labor and materials) to accommodate Epoxy Flake Flooring System in the amount of $6,200.00.] IS. DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON A CHANGE. ORDER NUMBER ONE ON AGREEMENT WITH WEATHERSPOON CONSTRUCTION FOR SPC CIVIC CENTER. EPOXY FLAKE FLOORING SYSTEM TO COVER CIVIC CENTER FLOORING REMOVAL LABOR AND MATERIALS TO ACCOMMODATE EPOXY FLAKE FLOORING SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,200. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. THANK YOU. SECOND. I DID, YES, SIR. OKAY, I'LL TRY TO SPEAK LOUDER. OKAY? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 2.4 D. [d. Consideration, discussion, and possible action to amend the current pharmacy covered prescription drugs effective October 1, 2025 per the recommendations of the Insurance Consultant and Insurance Committee. Plan members who may be adversely affected shall be grandfathered for as long as they remain active plan members and continue to receive the same medication for as long as there is no more than a 31 day break between dispensing.] [00:40:06] DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND THE CURRENT PHARMACY COVERED PRESCRIPTION DRUGS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2025. PER THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE INSURANCE CONSULTANT AND INSURANCE COMMITTEE PLAN MEMBERS WHO WILL MAY BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED SHALL BE GRANDFATHERED FOR AS LONG AS THEY REMAIN ACTIVE, PLAN MEMBERS AND CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THE SAME MEDICATION FOR AS LONG AS THERE IS NO MORE THAN A 30 DAY BREAK BETWEEN DISPENSING. GOOD MORNING. MR. ROSENBERGER IS NOT AVAILABLE TODAY. HE'LL BE AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK. BUT THEY ASKED IF I COULD PRESENT IT. ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A $670 CAP AT $670 A MONTH ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS IN OUR PREVIOUS FORMULARY PLAN WHEN MR. ROSENBERG WAS OUR CONSULTANT. THEY ACTUALLY REMOVED IT ONCE HE LEFT. AND SO WE'RE ASKING HIM, PUT THIS BACK INTO THE PROGRAM. IT'S A 670, $670 PER MONTH CAP ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION. MOTION SECONDED BY GONZALEZ. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. CHRIS. 2.4 DISCUSSION, [e. Discussion, consideration and action by Human Resources Department request for agreement between Houston Methodist Specialty Physicians and Asserta Health/Centivo. ] CONSIDERATION AND ACTION BY HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. REQUESTS FOR AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN HOUSTON METHODIST SPECIALIST PHYSICIANS AND ACERTA HEALTH SLASH CENTAVO. LAST WEEK I HAD THE AGREEMENT FOR THE HOSPITAL ITSELF. THIS IS JUST THE AGREEMENT FOR THE PHYSICIAN ITSELF. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS PART OF THE BUNDLE OF PHYSICIAN, WANT THEIR SPECIFIC AGREEMENT SEPARATE. SO IT'S JUST A CONTINUATION FROM LAST WEEK'S MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY NEARLY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MISS RIVERA HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. OKAY. WE GOT [f. Discussion, consideration and action on request by Debra Sanders, County Judge Office Court Administrator on change to policy for Commissioners Court Agenda submission deadlines and posting requirements in accordance with Texas Local Government Code 551.042 amended by House Bill #1522 effective September 1, 2025.] 2.4 F DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM DEBORAH SANDERS, COUNTY JUDGE, OFFICE COURT ADMINISTRATOR, ADMINISTRATOR ON CHANGE, A CHANGE TO POLICY FOR COMMISSIONERS, COURT AGENDA, SUBMISSION DEADLINES, AND POSTING REQUIREMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 551.042, AMENDED BY HOUSE BILL 1522 EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 20 23 2520. YES, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT STATES WHEN THE AGENDAS HAVE TO BE POSTED. PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS 72 HOURS, JUST PLAIN 72 HOURS. NOW THEY'RE SAYING IT HAS TO BE THREE BUSINESS DAYS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WHAT WE'VE PUT UP HERE ON THE ATTACHMENT, WE'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS SUBMITTED TO US NO LATER THAN CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON MONDAYS FOR THE AGENDA, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE IT POSTED BY 9:00 IN THE MORNING. BE WELL BEFORE 8:00 IN THE MORNING ON TUESDAY. IF THERE IS A HOLIDAY, WE MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE IT ON THE WEEKS WHERE WE HAVE A HOLIDAY ON A FRIDAY, WE'LL BE OKAY IF THE HOLIDAY IS ON A MONDAY, BUT IF THE HOLIDAY IS ON A FRIDAY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE POST IT FOR THREE FULL BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO. SO. ALL RIGHT, MOVE TO APPROVE. IT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST. SO IT'S COMING UP REALLY SOON. SPECIFIC MAN YOU'RE SAYING IT HAS TO BE THE AGENDA HAS TO BE IN BY TUESDAY. POSTED TUESDAY MORNING. WHEN WEDNESDAY WEDNESDAY THURSDAY FRIDAY. SO I'M SORRY WE HAVE TO HAVE IT. POSTED BY I'M SORRY 430 ON TUESDAYS. THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS HAS TO BE THERE BY 8:00 ON WEDNESDAY. WEDNESDAY FIRST THING TUESDAY MORNING. YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL DAY TUESDAY. I'M SORRY. TUESDAY ANYMORE. SO WHAT'S THE DEADLINE? MONDAY. CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON MONDAY IS THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING AGENDA ITEMS. POSTED AT FIVE. WE HAVE TO POST IT AT 430 ON TUESDAY, 430 ON TUESDAY. WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE STUFF IN BY MONDAY AND CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON MONDAY, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT TAKES US A WHILE TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS CORRECT. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH ANYBODY, GET AHOLD OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING. SO THAT THAT TAKES US QUITE A BIT OF TIME. ON TUESDAY. LEGISLATURE. NO. OKAY. MOTION STILL STANDS. AND ANOTHER THING, JUST A REMINDER TO PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE WHEN YOU'RE DOING CONTRACTS, GET THOSE SIGNED BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUBMITTING THE CONTRACTS PRIOR TO. BECAUSE TRYING TO TRACK AFTER THE COURT GETS THE CONTRACTS, THEY SIGN THEM. WE SEND THEM, WE NEED THEIR SIGNATURE. AND IT'S REALLY HARD GETTING BACK THE FULLY EXECUTED CONTRACT FROM PEOPLE. SO WE'RE GOING TO START KIND OF CRACKING DOWN ON THE ATTACHMENTS. SO I [00:45:04] ALSO WANT TO ASK ON THIS, SINCE WE'RE TALKING AGENDA BILLS, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE BILL. WHEN WHEN'S THE CUT OFF. NOW FOR THE BILLS I MEAN IS THAT GOING TO BE FRIDAY OR COMING UP ON NEXT ITEM. NEXT ITEM OKAY. WE. ON YOUR HONOR, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND AND A MOTION IN A SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. UNANIMOUS. 2.4 G NOW IS DISCUSSING CONSIDERATION ACTS ON [g. Discussion, consideration and action on request by Patrick Kieschnick, County Auditor, on change to policy or procedure for accounts payable and budget line item transfers deadlines in accordance with Texas Local Government Code 551.042 amended by House Bill #1522 effective September 1, 2025.] REQUEST BY PATRICK CASEY, COUNTY AUDITOR ON CHANGE TO POLICY OR PROCEDURE FOR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE AND BILL BUDGET ONLINE TRANSFERS DEADLINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 551.042, AMENDED BY THE HOUSE BILL 1522 EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025. MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. OKAY. ANYBODY? OKAY, PATRICK, YOU MAY EXPLAIN HOW THIS ONE'S GOING TO WORK. BILLS AND BLITZ WILL BE DUE BY NOON ON MONDAY BEGINNING AUGUST 25TH. OKAY. THAT'S THE FIRST NEW DEADLINE. AUGUST 25TH AT NOON. OKAY. IS IT GOING TO BE POSTED WITH THE AGENDA ON TUESDAY? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO I APPRECIATE. SO I'M TRYING TO BACK UP. WHEN DID I HAVE TO HAVE THEM ALL APPROVED ON IN CODE BY WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO NEED THOSE? MONDAY. PROBABLY MONDAY AFTERNOON. SO WE CAN HAVE THE LADIES GET EVERYTHING PROCESSED SIR. YES, SIR. ON MONDAY AND MONDAY. JUST GOT BUSY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON YES. NO. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THAT [3. PERSONNEL-Employment and current employee status changes in accordance with the current personnel policies, County Budget, and State law with notification of such changes to the payroll division of the Treasurer's office.] CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA. ITEMS WE'LL GO INTO PERSONNEL 3.1 A ALEXANDRIA AGUILAR RESIGNATION OUTREACH COORDINATOR, PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, PART TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 104 STEP ONE AT $16.59 PER HOUR, EFFECTIVE AUGUST THE 8TH, 2025. LARRY ARMSTRONG, EMPLOYMENT LEGAL SECRETARY TWO. COUNTY ATTORNEY, FULL TIME REGULAR. NON EXEMPT GRADE 108. STEP TWO AT $3,920.14 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE AUGUST THE 18TH. SALARY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS STEP TWO FOR CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION PLAN GUIDELINE 3.1. SEE CYNTHIA GILLUM GUILLEN, EMPLOYMENT PUBLIC OUTREACH SPECIALIST, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PART TIME, TEMPORARY GRADE 106, STEP TWO AT $19.78 PER HOUR, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 18TH, 2025. SALARY COMP COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS STEP TWO FOR CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION PLAN GUIDELINES REQUESTED BY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS STEP SEVEN. AT $25 AN HOUR, 3.1 D ALEXANDRIA MARTINEZ, EMPLOYMENT LEGAL SECRETARY ONE COUNTY ATTORNEY FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 107 AT STEP ONE AT $3,523.08 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 18TH. SALARY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS STEP ONE FOR CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION PLAN GUIDELINES REQUESTED BY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS STEP TWO AT $3,669.29 PER MONTH IN 3.1 E A DIAGNOSE UNEMPLOYMENT, JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICER JUVENILE DETENTION, FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 107 STEP ONE AT $3,523 PER MONTH, WITH A $50 PER MONTH PHONE ALLOWANCE, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 18TH, 2025. MOVE TO APPROVE 3.1 A THROUGH E WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS REQUESTED AMOUNTS SECOND GILLESPIE SECOND DOLLARS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. OKAY. ITEM TWO IS ACCEPTING RECORD SALARY CHANGES. WE HAVE NONE. NO EXECUTIVE SESSION PLANNED. SO WE WILL GO INTO ITEM SEVEN. DOES THE COURT NEED A BREAK BEFORE WE GO IN THIS WORKSHOP? I THINK I THINK COMMISSIONER ONE WOULD LIKE A BREAK, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WITH THAT, WE WILL. [00:50:04] RECESS. COURT AT 950 AS WELL. RECONVENE ALONE. HOW LONG A BREAK YOU NEED? FIVE MINUTES. HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES WINDED. R? ALL RIGHT. SO, JUST AS A RECAP FROM MR. MALONE WAS TALKING [7. Budget Workshop] ABOUT, I'M JUST GOING TO QUICKLY GO OVER THE IN OUR RATES AND THE VOTER APPROVED RATES, WHICH IS AT A 3.5% ABOVE THE RATES FOR THE KNOW, THE INS AND ROAD AND BRIDGE IN THAT ORDER. SO COUNTY 0.32086 $0.09. THE INS N R IS 0.037245, AND THE ROAD AND BRIDGE N AND R 0.090580, FOR A TOTAL TAX RATE OF 0.448694, AND IN R, R TOTAL, N AND R RATE 448448694. IN THE PACKET I JUST HANDED OUT TO YOU ALL, IF I GO TO THE SECOND PAGE. THERE'S TWO COLUMNS THERE. WE HAVE THE 2025 COLUMN WHICH ALL APPROVED LAST YEAR. AND THEN AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPOSE 2026 RATES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, WE KEPT THE SAME AS LAST YEAR'S RATE AT 0.0 OR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING 0.080411. THE PROPOSED RATE FOR THE 0.292105. AND IF YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THE PROPOSED RATE FOR THE FOR THE INS RATE .03724 5%. YES, SIR. FOR THE 2026 .292105. IT'S IN THAT ON THE RIGHT COLUMN. COUNTY. THAT'S COUNTY. WHAT. RIGHT. YEAH. OH, OKAY. I GUESS OR GENERAL. THE GENERAL FUND. ON THE THIRD PAGE OF. WELL LET'S GO OVER THAT FIRST. ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT. WE GO TO THE THIRD PAGE IN THAT PACKET AND JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A DETAIL OF THE LAST THREE YEARS OF THE RATES. OKAY. NEXT PAGE AFTER THAT IS A COMPUTATION. JUST ALL NUMBERS THAT WE PULL FROM THE CERTIFIED ROLLS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH. THE NEXT PAGES AFTER THAT ARE JUST A RECAP OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN THE FOUR ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCTS. IF YOU GO TO THE GENERAL FUND PAGE. RASHAUN, A ESTIMATED BEGINNING FUND BALANCE THERE OF ABOUT 36,000,001 75 715. THE TOTAL REVENUES AND THEN YOUR EXPENDITURES AND TRANSFER OUT. WE'RE GOING TO REZONE A FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE OF ABOUT 32.81%. THAT IS WITHIN OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY. AND THERE IS SOME ROOM. SO THE LAST FEW YEARS WE HAVE MOVED OR DONE TRANSFERS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND FOR PROJECTS, JUSTICE CENTER RENOVATION, COST ESCALATIONS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. IF YOU ALL WANT TO GET CLOSER TO THE 35%, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE, TYPICALLY WE'VE BEEN AROUND 34.5 TO 30 4.8 OR 9, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2023 2023, WE'RE ABOUT 31%, 31.5%. IT WAS 35%. OUR GOAL 35% IS THE TOP OF THE GOAL. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT WE ARE WITHIN OUR PARAMETERS OF IN OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY AT 32.8. WHAT'S THE MINIMUM WE'D LIKE TO STAY ABOVE 30. 30 TO 35 IS PRETTY MUCH OUR MAGIC NUMBER [00:55:12] THAT WE'D LIKE TO STAY AT. AND THEN PAST RECENT YEARS, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY STEADY. LIKE I SAID, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2023, ABOUT 34.5 OR A LITTLE ABOVE THAT. SO OUR TRANSFERS TO OUR WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR TRANSFER TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE DONE ANYWHERE FROM 5.6 TO 5.9 MILLION. IF YOU DROP THAT TO ABOUT 4.6 MILLION, THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE WILL GO UP TO ABOUT 34.5%. SO WE COULD WE COULD LEAVE IT AS IT IS AND JUST KIND OF SEE HOW THE YEAR GOES. WORST CASE, WE GET TO THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2026 AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE LAST TRANSFER IF YOU KNOW, NOT NEEDED. BUT THOSE ARE BUDGETED TRANSFERS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE. WE GO TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCTS. ALL THE PRECINCTS HAVE HEALTHY FUND BALANCES ANYWHERE FROM. SAY, 1% TO ABOUT 100%, WHICH IS WHY WE KEPT THE RATE THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. AS LAST YEAR'S RATE THAT DOES COVER. THERE'S A COUPLE PRECINCTS WHERE THE TAX REVENUE JUST FALLS A LITTLE BIT SHORT OF THE EXPENDITURES, BUT WE THERE'S PLENTY OF FUND BALANCE THERE TO COVER, YOU KNOW, TO COVER THAT. AND TYPICALLY WE TALKED TO ONE PRECINCT COMMISSIONER AND WE TOOK HIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT SINCE HE WAS DOING SOME THINGS ON HIS OWN. SO WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE SOME MONEY AROUND THERE. OKAY. SO BIG PICTURE WISE. OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN I KNOW YOUR PREDECESSOR HAD KIND OF A PLAN MAPPED OUT OUR NEXT BIG CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, I'M GUESSING IS GOING TO BE A NEW JAIL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THAT IN. THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, WELL THAT'S CORRECT. IT WOULD BE AFTER THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION WOULD BE THE JAIL. THAT'S CORRECT. WE TALKING TO TONY HASSELL WITH ESTRADA, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WISE TO WAIT FOR OUR RATING TO NOT GET HIT TO ABOUT 29 OR SO. THERE'S WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT GOING OUT FOR, FOR BOND, FOR THAT, FOR THAT PROJECT. THAT'S TO WRAP UP THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS WE WILL HAVE WE WILL HAVE THE JUSTICE CENTER AND THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION WRAPPED UP, AND THEN THAT'LL LEAVE US ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO WITH NO ACTIVITY AS FAR AS GOING OUT FOR BONDS TO KIND OF GIVE THE COUNTY A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. SO I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 2026, BUT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, IT WOULD HELP ME TO KIND OF SEE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS WELL, BECAUSE I EVEN IF WE'RE NOT BUILDING THE NEW JAIL NEXT YEAR, WE NEED TO AT LEAST BE UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS IS MAPPING OUT. SURE THING. IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A PRESENTABLE. CONSTRUCTION, SURE DO. I HAD A QUESTION BASICALLY FOR SALARY REVIEW COMMITTEE TYPE THING. I KNOW WE'RE GOING BACK OUT TO REVIEW SALARIES AGAIN THIS YEAR. IF WE HAD ANY UPDATES. WHAT? WHATEVER. YES, WE DO HAVE SOME UPDATES. THEY ARE SCHEDULED. NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO TELL ME THIS SEPTEMBER, THEY'RE COMING IN. THEY'RE COMING IN THE FIRST PART OF SEPTEMBER TO PRESENT TO THE COURT AND THEN START HAVING MEETINGS WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS. ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE BUDGET, WOULDN'T IT? IT WOULD. AND WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY IN CONTINGENCY FOR, FOR THAT PURPOSE AS WELL. SO THERE IS SOME MONEY SET ASIDE. AND ON THE SALARY STUDY. AND ALSO WHEN WE COME BACK IN END OF NOVEMBER, BEGINNING OF DECEMBER FOR RECLASSIFICATIONS, THERE'S MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THAT CONTINGENCY. THAT'S PART OF THE BUDGET. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE. SO JUST YEAH. JUST TO RECAP AGAIN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE ACTUAL RATES FOR THE TAX RATES IS 0.080411 FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, 0.292105 FOR GENERAL AND 0.037245 FOR DEBT RATE. AND [01:00:04] THAT IS THAT NEAR OR BELOW FOR 2026. JUDGE, I ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. YEAH, WE VOTED TO HIRE A ROAD SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE ROAD SYSTEM. IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR? NO, SIR. IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW, JUST BASED OFF DISCUSSION, WE HAVE THE JUDGE AND AMONGST YOU ALL. WE'RE WE'RE. PUT THAT ASIDE FOR NOW. REMEMBER ANY DISCUSSION. SO THE NEXT ITEM THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME I GUESS WOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET. Y'ALL HAVE A HAND UP FOR THE WORKSHOP HERE. TOWARDS THE END YOU'LL HAVE A LIST OF NEW POSITIONS. WHILE WE'RE ASKING IS FOR IS FOR THE COURT TO. APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE BY POSITION, NOT AS. SO WE CAN GO THROUGH AND DISCUSS EACH ONE. IF YOU'LL HAVE DISCUSSION, AND THEN AND THEN GO BY GO BY POSITION OR, OR AT THE MINIMUM DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE THERE. SO THE FIRST ONE ON THE LIST IS A PART TIME COURT COORDINATOR IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE. AND THE SECOND ONE IS GOING TO BE A THIS SOCIAL MEDIA SPECIALIST AND THE EMC DEPARTMENT FIRE MARSHAL. IS THAT WE JUST APPROVED THIS WOMAN JUST PROVED CORRECT. SOME OF THESE AND YOU'LL SEE AS WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE HERE IN THE HR DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE TALKED TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE HR DEPARTMENT IS WAS AGREEABLE TO FUNDING THIS FOR HALF A YEAR, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS IN RECLASSIFICATIONS WITHIN WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. LET'S SEE WHAT THE TWO OFFICE COORDINATORS IN THE GRANTS MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GRANT FUNDED. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVING THEM TO BEING FUNDED UNDER THE COUNTY. THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSION THAT NEED TO BE HAD RATHER TO KEEP THEM AS GRANT FUNDED OR. OR TO MOVE UNDER THE COUNTY. SO IT SAYS MOVE FROM GRANT TO GRANT FUNDED. ACTUALLY THAT'S MOVED FROM GRANT TO GENERAL FUND. OKAY. GENERAL FUND. YES, SIR. OKAY. TWO POSITIONS IN THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE. ONE A DEPUTY CLERK ONE. DEPUTY CLERK THREE. AND THEY HAVE AGREED FOR FUNDING FOR HALF A YEAR. THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL MOVE OVER TO THE JUSTICE CENTER. THE D-A'S OFFICE IS A PARALEGAL PROMOTING FROM A LEGAL PROMOTING TO LEGAL SECRETARY. AND THEY'RE DELETING, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THAT THE THAT POSITION AS PARALEGAL. I'M SORRY LEGAL SECRETARY DELETING THE POSITION OF LEGAL SECRETARY. GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS OFFICE. WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A OFFICE COORDINATOR. ELECTIONS OFFICE, MOVING THE ELECTION COORDINATOR FROM A PART TIME TO FULL TIME POSITION. BUILDINGS AND YARDS, ADDING A CUSTODIAN. AND THEN SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THEY HAVE FIVE BAILIFFS THERE FOR ACROSS THE STREET. THAT FUNDING WOULDN'T START UNTIL WE HAVE SEPTEMBER RIGHT THERE. IT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, KIND OF SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT AND THE WAY HE WHAT HE'S GOING TO NEED FOR THAT. AND THEN ANIMAL CONTROL FOR THE NEW BUILDING. THERE'S A OFFICER OR A SLASH ANIMAL TECHNICIAN. AND FAIRGROUNDS WOULD BE A MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT. SO THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY GRANT FUNDED, I TAKE IT THERE IS NO LONGER ANY GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE TO CONTINUE THOSE POSITIONS. I BELIEVE THERE'S GRANT FUNDING UNTIL THE I BELIEVE IT'S FINISHING UP THE ARPA. IT WAS. WAS THAT GRANT IS. [01:05:05] MA'AM MAC. THAT WAS THAT WAS A BIG ONE. WE JUST DID RIGHT. THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN. YOU KNOW, WE HIRED SEVERAL POSITIONS UNDER GRANT FUNDING. YES, SIR. WHICH IS GREAT WHEN YOU HAVE GRANT MONEY. UNDERSTOOD? GRANT MONEY RUNS OUT. THEN WE'RE LEFT EITHER ELIMINATING THAT POSITION OR NOW PICKING THAT UP BY THE COUNTY. SO THERE'S A MYRIAD OF GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE OUT THERE STILL TO THIS DAY. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING AFTER ONE OF THE GRANTS THAT WE USE MANY TIMES WAS CAP FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND. THERE HASN'T BEEN NO ACTIVITY IN THAT FOR SEVEN YEARS. BUT THE MONEY'S BEEN THERE. NOBODY'S JUST APPLIED FOR IT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN. I MEAN, IT PROVIDED A LOT OF EQUIPMENT FOR THE PARKS. AND THE PARKS UP WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPEND COUNTY TAX DOLLARS. SURE. BUT THIS IS AVAILABLE FROM DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR FOR THE GAS WELLS OFF OUR COAST THAT THEY PAY REVENUES TO. THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR IS PASSED DOWN TO THE MINE MINERALS MANAGEMENT AND TRANSFERRED OUT TO COASTAL COUNTIES. AND THE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ENJOYED THE LAST SEVEN YEARS GETTING THAT MONEY, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING OUR SHARE OF IT. AND THIS IS NOT TAXPAYER MONEY OUT THERE. THIS IS OIL AND GAS REVENUES. OKAY. WE'VE BEEN GETTING A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF THAT GOLD MESA MONEY. GO. MESA IS SEPARATE FROM CAP. THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO QUALIFY FOR THAT OTHER CAP IS BEING A COASTAL COUNTY ON ONE OF THE THREE COASTS. IT'S ALL GAS REVENUES. IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. GO GO MESS US COAST BECAUSE WE GOT THE COUNTY PART OF IT AND THE ROCKPORT ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE RECEIVED CAP MONIES FROM 2004 UP UNTIL 2017 WHEN THEY QUIT. AND WHEN I RETIRED, I'LL LOOK AND SEE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN NOTHING IN THE BUDGET SINCE 19. I CAN LOOK AT THAT. EXCUSE ME. SO, SHERIFF, THE BAILIFF POSITIONS ARE THOSE TO MAN THE NEW JUDICIAL BUILDING WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, I WE'RE NOT. I STILL STAND FIRM THAT WE NEED TO WAIT IT OUT AND SEE HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE BEFORE WE MOVE IN AND HIRE THEM ACCORDINGLY AS WE NEED THEM. THAT'S REALLY A BIG EXPENSE. WE FOR SURE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE AT THE TO CONTROL THE DOORS. THAT'S A THAT'S FOR SE FOR SURE THING. BUT THE REST OF THE FOLKS I THINK WE CAN WE CAN SURVIVE AS BEST AS WE CAN UNTIL WE GET IT DONE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE LINE BY LINE OR BY DEPARTMENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY BAILIFFS. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE OF THEM. JUST DELETE THE ONES WE DON'T WANT. EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM. WE'RE ACTUALLY A WORKSHOP OR DISCUSSION VOTE NOW. WE'LL HAVE TO GO. OKAY. WE WANT WE WANT TO KNOW NOW IS HOW MANY OF THESE WHAT OF THESE POSITIONS DO WE WANT TO VOTE ON WHEN WE COME UP. SO I'M OKAY WITH THE SHERIFF BAILIFFS STARTING IN SEPTEMBER, DEPENDING ON WHEN THE BUILDING ACTUALLY GETS DONE WHEN WE NEED THEM. BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT. WELL, MY ONLY QUESTION ON THE WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE LIST IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT DURING THE PAST MONTH OR TWO IS THE INSURANCE DEPARTMENT PLACING OUR EMPLOYEES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY RAISE THE COST ON INSURANCE. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO GET COVERED BY COLA, BUT STILL, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYEES HAVING TO TAKE TIME OFF FROM WORK OR TAKE TIME AWAY FROM THEIR JOB DURING THE WORK DAY TO BE ABLE TO CALL CONCENTRA TO GET THESE INSURANCE CLAIMS HANDLED AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW IT. I HEAR FROM DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES ALL THE TIME THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE IN CONCENTRA. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THEIR BILLS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY A FORTUNE OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET TO GET THIS INSURANCE BILLS DONE. AND NOW IN THE PAST, IT HAD BEEN DONE, AND THAT WAS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE HAD MISS ATKINSON HERE. IT WAS A GOOD THING I NEVER SAW HER LEFT IN 15 MINUTES AND SHE HAD IT SOLVED. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HAVING HR INSURANCE IN ONE [01:10:01] DEPARTMENT IS A GOOD THING. I THINK IT'S SEPARATE INSURANCE MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A SITUATION RIGHT NOW WITH INSURANCE THAT WE WENT WITHOUT MR. ROSENBERG FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND WE GOT IN TROUBLE, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO PAY THE PRICE AND PAY THE PIPER TO TRANSFER THAT MONEY BACK IN THERE TO GET OUR, OUR, OUR FUNDS BACK UP TO SPEED. IN OUR, OUR FUND BALANCE. SO IT JUST BOGGLES MY MIND WHY WE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY. RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON THESE POSITIONS. WELL, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER HR PERSON IN THERE AND. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WHOLE BUDGET WHEN YOU DO THAT. YOU'RE ADDING ANOTHER. THAT'S ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, ANOTHER LAYER OF DEPARTMENT. ONE PERSON'S NOT GOING TO BE I'VE DISCUSSED IT SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF, AND OBVIOUSLY 4 OR 5 PERSON DEPARTMENT. ANYWA, WE DO THAT. IT WOULD BE A COURTESY TO DISCUSS IT WITH HR, RIGHT? IN MY OPINION. WELL, THAT'S WHAT A MAN NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED WITH THAT AND WITH MR. ROSENBERG INCLUDED. IN THERE. OKAY. LET'S GO ON WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS LIST RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ANY EXPLANATION ON ANY OF THEM? THE ONE FROM OUR OFFICE IS A NEW COORDINATOR BECAUSE MINE IS GOING TO BE RETIRING. HOPEFULLY, I DON'T KNOW, AT THE END OF THE YEAR. SO DO YOU HAVE A PLACE TO PHYSICALLY PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN THERE? BACK TO THE HR THING. I HAD A QUESTION. HOW IS THIS POSITION, THIS NEW POSITION GOING TO DIFFER FROM WHAT THE CURRENT PERSON THAT'S DOING THE WHOSE TITLE IS? IF HR BENEFITS COORDINATOR. WE'RE MOVING. WE'RE MOVING THE PROCESS OF OUR OFFICE ITSELF FROM A GENERAL. WE DON'T HAVE A GENERALIST. WE DON'T HAVE A WE HAVE A COORDINATOR. WE HAVE A BENEFITS ADMINISTRATOR. SO BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH INSURANCE, WE'RE REVAMPING OUR OFFICE TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO MY HR BENEFITS PERSON IS DOING HR ASSISTANT WORK. I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOAD THAT PERSON AND HAVE SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY. THAT'S ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW TWO PEOPLE ARE DOING HR BENEFITS. AND I WANT TO KIND OF EMPHASIZE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT UTILIZE THE INSURANCE. SO THIS THIS NEW POSITION WILL BE HANDLING MORE THE INSURANCE AND THE OTHER PERSON WILL BE WILL STAY WITH THE HR FUNCTION MORE SO ON THE AIR PART. RIGHT NOW LEASING OFFICE IS DOING BENEFITS ADMINISTRATION, BUT SHE'S ALSO DOING HR TO HELP ME OUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. OKAY. SO COORDINATOR IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BUT THAT COORDINATOR IS DOING SPECIFIC FMLA WITH OUR NEW ENCODE SYSTEM HAS BECOME A MAJOR JOB. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REVAMP THE OFFICE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITION FOR BENEFITS ITSELF. OKAY. AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE LIFE INSURANCE, ALL THE ANCILLARIES, EVERYTHING ELSE WE OFFER THE EMPLOYEES. OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS CLARIFY SOME THINGS FOR INSURANCE VERSUS HR FUNCTIONS. IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER YARDLEY, FOR THE PART TIME, I AM HOPING TO RETIRE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND GET US THROUGH THIS YEAR. HOPEFULLY GIVE MY NOTICE SOMETIME BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND ALLOW TIME TO ADVERTISE FOR THE POSITION, GET SOMEBODY IN THERE AND ALLOW TIME FOR TRAINING. THE THING FOR THE PART TIME IS THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO GET TO. WE'RE JUST SHORTHANDED. SO I JUST WANTED WE WERE TRYING TO GET A PART TIME THING IN THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT, IN CASE I NEED TO HOLD OVER FOR A LITTLE BIT TO CONTINUE TRAINING OR GET CAUGHT UP WITH SOME THINGS OR CLEAN UP SOME THINGS. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. IF YOU HIRE A PART TIME POSITION, THEN WHEN YOU RETIRE, WE'LL HIRE YET ANOTHER FULL TIME TO REPLACE YOU. IS THAT THE PLAN? YEAH, A FULL TIME. THEY CAN ALSO USE EXTRA HANDS NOW. HOWEVER, IF THE PUBLIC, THE PIO AND EVERYTHING DOWN HERE, IF THEY GET THEIR PERSON, THEN WE CAN DO AWAY WITH A PART TIME PERSON. PART TIME PERSON WOULD COME IN AND PLAY TILL 2026, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND YOU'LL BE RETIRED BY THEN. THEREABOUTS. YEAH. WELL, WE WERE PUTTING THAT IN THERE BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE GOING TO NEED AND I DON'T WANT TO TOOT HORNS OR ANYTHING, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH BEHIND THE SCENES THAT IS [01:15:01] DONE IN MY POSITION. IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY HARD TO HAVE ONE PERSON BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING. I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN DO EVERYTHING. SO WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO BRING A PART TIME PERSON ON NOW AND THEN WAIT TILL THE FIRST OF THE YEAR? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THE JOB FROM YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE. WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET IN 2025 TO ADD A PART TIME PERSON RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, IF WE DID, THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT I JUST DON'T SEE ADDING A PART TIME POSITION AFTER YOU ALREADY GONE TO LEARN ALL THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU'RE ALREADY GONE. IT IT JUST BOGGLES MY MIND. WELL, THE PART TIME WAS SO I COULD HOLD OVER IF I NEEDED TO, TO HELP CONTINUE TRAINING. AND THEN YOU COULD REPLACE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO BE HANDLED WITH TWO PEOPLE. SO I FIGURED TWO AND A HALF PEOPLE, ONCE I LEAVE, IT'LL BE FILLED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. YOU UNDERSTAND? YOU GOT AN EXACT DATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE OR NOT YET? I'M KIND OF PLAYING IT BY EAR, BUT I'M HOPING TO BE GONE BY BY FEBRUARY. MARCH. OKAY, WELL, I CAN UNDERSTAND NOW. I JUST IF YOU LEAVE ON 1ST JANUARY, THAT'S A PROBLEM. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A DATE IN MY MIND. WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFER ALL THIS KNOWLEDGE OVER TO ANOTHER PERSON. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO RETIRE A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT YET. WE DID NOT REQUEST THE TEMPORARY POSITION FOR THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THE COURT WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY. IT'S A CLERICAL POSITION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO WE DID NOT APPROACH THE COURT TO DO A PART TIME POSITION IN 2025, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT OF CONTINGENCY, AND WE DID NOT WANT TO ASK THE COURT FOR THAT AT THIS TIME. SO I MUST HAVE JOB FOR THIS YEAR. MR. MR. WHITMORE, CAN YOU WAIT? IF THE BUDGET IS TIGHT OR. FOR HER, WHICH POSITION ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEBBIE'S. DEBBIE'S. DEBBIE'S PART TIME. NO, NO, I'M. WE ARE. I'M OKAY WITH DEBBIE. I'M. I'M ASKING A QUESTION. IS ON YOUR POSITION. CAN YOU HOLD OFF OR IS THERE ANY POSITIONS IN HERE THAT THAT THAT CAN HOLD OFF? THE BUDGET IS TIGHT. I KNOW THE SHERIFF SAID THAT, THAT HE WOULD WAIT. BUT IS YOURS A MUST HAVE FOR 2026? MY OFFICE CAN MAKE IT WORK. WE'VE MADE IT WORK THE LAST TWO YEARS. RIGHT NOW WE WERE JUST HOPING BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE BENEFIT PART OF IT, THAT WE HAVE A GAME PLAN GOING FORWARD. BUT IF I CAN'T HAVE IT FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, I CAN WAIT ANOTHER YEAR. WE'VE WAITED. THIS TIME. MY OFFICE WILL MAKE IT WORK EITHER WAY. OH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT THAT CAN HOLD OFF THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT OR ANIMAL CONTROL? LET'S LET'S GO DOWN THE LIST ONE BY ONE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO COURT COORDINATOR FOR THE JUDGE'S OFFICE PART TIME. I UNDERSTAND THE PLAN. I AGREE, I THINK EVEN WHEN YOU GET A REPLACEMENT FOR YOU IN THERE FULL TIME, THAT PERSON'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON THEIR PLATE. SO I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE COMING ABOUT WITH THE PART TIME POSITION. EMC FIRE MARSHAL, SOCIAL MEDIA SPECIALIST. DID WE? WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. WE ALREADY APPROVED THAT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS YEAR AND WANT TO CARRY IT ON TO NEXT YEAR. AND THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE INFORMATION OUT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING HR BENEFITS ADMINISTRATOR. SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW YOUR OFFICE IS DOING THIS WORK. BUT YOUR PREFERRED METHOD IS TO HIRE A NEW PERSON TO BE SPECIFICALLY THE BENEFITS ADMINISTRATOR, INSTEAD OF DOING OTHER HR THINGS ON TOP OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. RIGHT? RIGHT NOW I HAVE AN HR BENEFITS ADMINISTRATOR GENERALIST, SO THAT PARTICULAR PERSON IS DOING ALL THE BENEFITS AND HR AS FAR AS HELPING ME ON MY SIDE OF IT, I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY JUST HAVE A BENEFITS PERSON THAT THAT'S ALL THEY'RE GOING TO BE HANDLING AND NOT GET PULLED AWAY FROM HAVING TO DO OTHER THINGS. ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH LIKE CONCENTRA DIRECTLY? I DON'T KNOW WHO CONCENTRA IS. I'M THE INSURANCE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, SERTA, SERTA, SERTA, OKAY. AND I HAD IN MY MIND, I DON'T KNOW WHY. MAYBE IT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD BEFORE, BUT I MEAN, THE CLAIMS WHEN I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING EMPLOYEES TALKING TO AN INSURANCE COMPANY IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT UP ON SPEED AND. YOU KNOW, I [01:20:04] HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY SON GOING TO TALK TO AN NOT TO INSURANCE, BUT A CAR DEALER WITHOUT ME STANDING THERE WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER, I WOULD MAKE SURE I WAS THERE SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT HE WAS DOING. SO RIGHT NOW, EMPLOYEES ARE ASKED TO CONTACT A SERTA BECAUSE THAT'S OUR COST HERE. BUT WE ON A DAILY BASIS HERE FROM EMPLOYEES, WHETHER IT'S WITH BILLS, TRYING TO SET UP APPOINTMENTS, IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS AN ISSUE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO A CERTAIN, THEY STILL COME TO US, RIGHT? THEY STILL HAVE EMPLOYEES COME TO SEE US. SO WE'VE NOT HAD ANYBODY. NOW, I CAN'T SPEAK ON YOUR SON SPECIFICALLY. WELL, I'M SAYING I'M NOT TALKING JUST ABOUT I'M TALKING ABOUT MY EMPLOYEES. OKAY. SO IF YOUR EMPLOYEES HAVE AN ISSUE NOT WANTING TO CONTACT DISORDER AND THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CALLING EVENT, NOW, BE AWARE WE WILL NOT HAVE A SERTA AS OF THE END OF SEPTEMBER 31ST. WE ARE MOVING OVER AND WE WERE GOING TO MOVE IT OVER AS OF DECEMBER 31ST, AND WE CHOSE AS A COMMITTEE AND OUR CONSULTANT TO MOVE THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO WE WILL HAVE MICHI, WHICH IS ANOTHER CONCIERGE, OCTOBER 1ST. WE'RE HOPING THAT TRANSITION GOES SMOOTH. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. BUT EMPLOYEES STILL CAN CALL US. THEY CAN STILL COME SEE US, AND THEY DO ON A REGULAR BASIS. OKAY, THE QUESTION I THINK I HAD THIS MORNING WAS IT WAS HAVING TO SIGN OFF ON THE AGREEMENT TO TAKE PAYMENT FOR SURGERY OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE DOING IT, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A VOUCHER. RIGHT. YOU AGENDA VOUCHERS FOR EIGHT YEARS, GOING ON NINE YEARS AND THAT SAVES THE EMPLOYEE. THEY TAKE THE VOUCHER IN WHEN THEY DO THEIR PRE-OP. THAT WAY THE EMPLOYEE DOESN'T PAY ANYTHING OUT OF OKAY, WELL THAT'S FINE OKAY. I DON'T TAKE THE INSURANCE ON. I'M NOT VERY WELL UP ON HOW THE INSURANCE WORKS, BUT WHEN I HEAR EMPLOYEES TALK TO ME AND I'M LISTENING TO THEM, AND WHEN THEY FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL HR AND THEY HAVE AN INSURANCE PROBLEM, THEY GET A BILL IN THE MAIL AND THEIR FIRST THING THEY DON'T TELL IS YOU NEED TO CALL A SERTA. I GOT THAT RIGHT AGAIN, AND THEY JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. IT MAKES THEM THEY'RE THEY'RE SCARED TO CALL THEM, YOU KNOW. AND I UNDERSTAND BEING BEING YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T DEAL WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES EVERY DAY, IT'S THAT GUY STANDING THERE WITH A BLACK HOOD ON HIS HEAD WITH AN AX IN HIS HAND, READY TO CUT YOU OFF. THEN IT'S NORMAL. EMPLOYEES ARE SCARED OF IT. AND WE THAT DEAL WITH MAJOR COMPANIES ALL THE TIME. WE'RE NOT AFRAID OF THOSE PEOPLE. WE KNOW HOW TO TALK TO THEM. THEY PUT THEIR PANTS ON ONE LEG AT A TIME. SO YOU TALK TO THEM THAT WAY. AND I JUST THINK THE EMPLOYEES, WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM TALKING TO INSURANCE COMPANIES, AND THEY REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO IT. SO COURTESY, AS I SAID BEFORE, APPARENTLY YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO YOU A SIMPLE CALL OR VISIT. YOU COME BY OUR BUILDING ALL THE TIME. IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE OR YOU HAVE ISSUES, COME BRING THEM TO US. I HAVE THE REST OF THE COURT AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER, HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THE INSURANCE OR ANY KIND OF BENEFIT, AND THEY ALWAYS CALL US. WE INTERVENE AND WE TRY TO GET IT RESOLVED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO YOU AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX IT FOR THEM AND WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, WE CAN'T FIX IT. WE DON'T KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE. SO WITH THIS NEW HR BENEFITS ADMINISTRATOR HELP IN THAT MATTER? YES. WE'RE LISA IS MY BENEFITS ADMINISTRATOR RIGHT NOW, BUT SHE'S ALSO A GENERALIST. SO SHE'S OVERLOADED AS FAR AS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING THAT I CAN'T DO AND THEN TRYING TO KEEP THE OFFICE GOING BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY THERE'S ONLY THREE OF US AND THEN A CLERK. OKAY. WAREHOUSE IS TOTALLY SEPARATE. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE OVER 900 LIVES ON OUR INSURANCE. IT'S A DAILY EVENT FOR US TO HAVE SOME ISSUES COME UP, AND WE TRY TO GET ON IT AS SOON AS WE CAN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEDICASH EVERY MONDAY, YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST HAVING SERVICES AND THAT'S JUST OUTPATIENT TYPE SERVICES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON. NOT TALKING ABOUT REGULAR DOCTOR VISITS OR X RAYS OR LABS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A FULL TIME PLUS JOB AND I HAVE ONE PERSON DOING IT RIGHT NOW IN ADDITION TO OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. SO WHEN THE AUDITOR CAME AND ASKED I SAID, WE'LL HOLD UP, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HELP THE BUDGET AND JUST DO IT HALF A YEAR. WE WANTED TO DO THIS LAST YEAR AFTER WHAT HAPPENED BY A PREVIOUS COURT WITH OUR INSURANCE, AND THANK GOODNESS WE WERE ABLE TO BRING MR. OSTERBERG BACK SO THAT WE COULD GET BACK ON TRACK. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, IS TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY BACK WHERE WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THIS HAPPENED. SO FOR THE ASSUMPTION TO SAY THE INSURANCE IS IN THE CONDITION, IT IS BECAUSE OF HR. NO, THE INSURANCE IS IN THE CONDITION BECAUSE OF DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE PRIOR TO THIS COURT TWO YEARS AGO. AND [01:25:06] NOW WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP AND TRY TO GET IT BACK ON TRACK. WELL, IF YOU CAN GUARANTEE ME THE INSURANCE IS GOING TO PICK UP AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE HAPPY, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOUR PERSON. IF YOU CAN GUARANTEE ME THAT ROPE IN MY WAREHOUSE TO YOUR WAREHOUSE, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY POTHOLES. WE'LL BOTH BE IN THE SAME. WE DO WHAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE. AND I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS TIMES PRIOR TO TIMES IF EMPLOYEES HAVE AN ISSUE, WE ARE THERE FOR THE EMPLOYEES. THEY DON'T ALWAYS LIKE WHAT WE HEAR BECAUSE OUR HANDS ARE TIED. WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. BUT I JUST NEED YOUR SUPPORT AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD. IF YOU FEEL LIKE I CAN WAIT ANOTHER YEAR, WE WILL MAKE IT WORK. MY OFFICE WILL MAKE IT WORK. OUR OVERTIME MAY GO A LITTLE HIGHER AS IT HAS. IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR BUDGET AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT WORK, OURS IS NOT ALWAYS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8 TO 5, BUT THAT KIND OF COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE, SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. PATRICK. THESE POSITIONS ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET YOU ALREADY LOOKED AT BEFORE. AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS YOU HAVE GIVEN US, YES WE DO. WE DO HAVE THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT SET ASIDE. OKAY, THEN THEN WE DON'T NEED TO BE CUTTING THESE POSITIONS. I THINK EVERY ONE OF THEM IS A POSITION TO HAVE. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE TAXPAYERS TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE IN THERE. SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. WELL, LET'S FINISH GOING DOWN THE LIST. SO THANK YOU, NORMA. APPRECIATE THAT. GRANT MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE TWO OFFICE COORDINATORS. SO WHO ARE THOSE WHO'S DOING THAT JOB NOW? WE HAVE TWO OFFICE COORDINATORS. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO OFFICE COORDINATORS UNDER MELANIE IN THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE BEHIND BEHIND BEHIND. WE'VE GOT 30 OVER $35 MILLION IN GRANTS JUST ON DRAINAGE WORKING RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S KEEPING THEM VERY BUSY. AND WE'RE BACK ON TRACK AND BACK ON SCHEDULE. AND THAT'S PART OF IT. THEY'RE VERY NEW POSITIONS, COMMISSIONER. SO THAT'S WHY YOU I MEAN THAT THEY'RE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS. YEAH. I THINK WE BROUGHT THEM ON FEBRUARY OR MARCH OR I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS. I THINK IT'S JUST BEEN A FEW MONTHS. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYTHING IN THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT AND THE GRANT FUNDING THAT THERE CURRENTLY IS NOT AN OPTION MOVING FORWARD. WELL, THE GRANT FUNDING FOR, FOR THEM. YES. WELL IT DEPENDS ON THE GRANT, I GUESS HOW THE GRANT RUNS AND OR WHEN IT ENDS AND THEN WHAT NEW GRANTS COME ABOUT. AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WITH GRANT FUNDED POSITIONS WE'VE SEEN THIS YEAR WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER GRANTS, SOMETIMES WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN THE GRANT FUNDING WILL, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT ENDS IS THERE'LL BE MORE OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BE COVERED UNDER GRANT FUNDING, THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING YOU WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER. OKAY. WELL, IF YOU DON'T APPLY FOR ANY GRANTS, YOU WON'T NEED THEM. RIGHT. AND IF YOU DON'T APPLY FOR ANY GRANTS, YOU WON'T GET THEM. RIGHT? YEP. I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THE GRANT DEPARTMENT AT ALL. IF ANYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO IT BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING GETTING STUFF IN MY PRECINCT. AWARDED. I'VE GOT OVER $15 MILLION JUST ON ONE PROJECT THERE, SO I'M NOT VOTING TO CUT ANYTHING ON THE GRANTS. NEXT UP, DISTRICT CLERK. CLERK ONE, CLERK THREE. FUNDING FOR HALF THE YEAR. SO THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO PLAY WHENEVER THE JUSTICE CENTER OPENS UP AND THEY MOVE OVER THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S LOOKING AT. IS THAT CORRECT? HEATHER. YEAH, A LOT OF THESE DEPEND ON THESE HERE HALF YEARS. ABSOLUTELY OPENS UP. BECAUSE WHEN YOU EVEN GET DOWN HERE TO THE CUSTODIANS, YOU GOT TO THINK WE GOT THREE CUSTODIANS TAKING CARE OF THE OLD COURTHOUSE AND 50,000FT■!S. WE'E GOING TO MOVE INTO 93,000FT■!S OVER HERE. HE'S GOING TO NEED PROBABLY 2 OR 3 MORE CUSTODIANS TO WORK THAT BUILDING OVER THERE, PLUS THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENTS. THERE WILL BE A TIME WHILE THE OLD COURTHOUSE IS UNDER RENOVATIONS. THEY WON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THERE, SO THEY'LL BE MOVED OVER HERE. AND HE DOES SAY, THAT'S RIGHT. MORE. DISTRICT ATTORNEY. I PRETTY MUCH UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE PROMOTING THE EXISTING POSITION TO PARALEGAL AND ELIMINATING LEGAL SECRETARY. SO I ASSUME THAT'S SOMETHING THEY NEED TO DO INTERNAL TO THEIR OFFICE. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SLASH PIO OFFICE COORDINATOR. SO THIS KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE FIRST COURT COORDINATOR FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE OFFICE. I MEAN, I ASSUME THESE WOULD KIND OF WORK TOGETHER IN SOME MANNER. YES. WE ADDED THAT BECAUSE PUBLIC INFORMATION HAS EXPLODED AND THERE WE JUST MASSIVE WITH THAT AND WITH CHRIS'S POSITION, HE REVIEWS ALL CONTRACTS FOR THE COUNTY THAT COME IN FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT. THAT'S VERY TIMELY, TIMELY PUBLIC INFORMATION ASPECT OF HIS [01:30:05] POSITION. A LOT OF TIMES REQUIRES GETTING ADDITIONAL RESEARCH IN ON EVERYTHING, GETTING A ATTORNEY GENERAL, OPINIONS, CHECKING OUT STATUTES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AS WELL AS SAME THING WITH CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S OVERWHELMING. PATRICIA, TRISHA AND I HAVE BEEN KIND OF HANDLING THAT, BUT IT'S BECOMING REALLY EXCESSIVE BECAUSE WE ALSO HANDLE ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING IN. FOR NOTARIES AND ETCETERA. IT'S JUST OVERWHELMING. AND SO HE REALLY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO HELP SUPPORT HIM IN, IN, IN BETWEEN TIME. IT'S JUST STUFF THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, JUST PASSED THIS MORNING OVERTIME FROM MY DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF IT'S COMING FROM. WE GET A LOT OF LAST MINUTE THINGS WHEN PEOPLE CALLING IN LIKE 10 TO 5, 5 TO 5. AND THEN SOME OF IT CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT DAY. SO WE HAVE TO DO AND SOME OF IT IS JUST LIKE, OKAY, STUFF THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE NEXT DAY. BUT WE'VE BEEN INUNDATED WITH OTHER THINGS DURING THE DAY. SO THEN IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S NO PHONES, PEOPLE CAN'T COME IN. SO NOW LET'S JUST GET THIS CLEARED OFF OUR DESK. HOW MANY HOW MANY EMAILS YOU GET A DAY, CHRIS. I KNOW HOW MANY HE SENDS ME. I KNOW HOW MANY I SENT HIM. SO AGAIN, WE PHYSICALLY HAVE A PLACE TO LOCATE TWO MORE PEOPLE IN YOUR OFFICE THERE. HOW HOW ARE YOU? WE HAVE SPACE IN THE BUILDING THAT WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE WE HAVE THIS AREA THAT WAS BACK HERE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE A MAILROOM OR A BREAK ROOM. WE HAVE A SEPARATE BREAK AREA SO WE CAN RECONFIGURE THAT, GET RID OF. WE JUST HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, DINING ROOM TABLE THINGS IN THERE THAT WE CAN MOVE. AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO PUT TWO EXTRA OFFICES IN THERE. AND THE NEW DESIGN FOR THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE IS GOING TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THESE POSITIONS AS WELL. I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF YES, WE HAVE EXTRA OFFICE SPACE IN THERE. NOW, I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LINE, IT HAS A PROPOSED ACTION SALARY, BUDGET IMPACT AND THE ANNUALIZED IMPACT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ANNUALIZED IMPACT IS WAY OVERESTIMATED. I THINK IT'D BE MUCH LESS THAN THAT. BUT THAT'S WITH YOUR FRINGE BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YEAH, FRINGE BENEFITS. THAT'S HOW THAT'S WHAT IT COST. OKAY. NEXT UP, ELECTION ADMIN, ELECTIONS COORDINATOR MOVING FROM PART TIME FULL TIME. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I KNOW OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE IS UNDER A LOT MORE GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE. I GUESS IT'S A WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO FINISH UP WITH THIS YEAR. SO IT MAY BE MORE CHANGES COMING DOWN. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. BUT AS FAR AS THAT ONE GOES, THAT IS AN INTERNAL DEAL JUST GOING FROM PART TIME TO FULL TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. SO OKAY. BUILDING YARDS CUSTODIAN JUDGE YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT. SHERIFF. WE DISCUSSED YOUR BAILIFFS ALREADY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER. I'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE CHIEF DEPUTY. CAN WE SURVIVE WITH THREE AND SUPPLEMENT OUR TRANSPORT DEPUTIES TO HELP OUT SO WE CAN SEE WHAT, WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY HAPPEN WITH THIS COURTHOUSE? AND HE SUGGESTS WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT WITH JUST THREE AND THEN KNOCK AT THE DOOR IN 2027 TO TRY TO GET THE OTHER TWO. AND LET'S SEE, I DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE BOAT RIGHT NOW SAYING THAT WE NEED FIVE RIGHT NOW WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, JUST START WITH THREE AND THEN LET'S SEE. MAKE IT WORK IT OUT WITH THE TRANSPORT DEPUTIES TO SUPPLEMENT THE NEED. UNTIL WE GET TO FIND OUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE. WELL, I KNOW, I'M SORRY, WHY NOT JUST GO WITH FIVE AND JUST NOT HIRE THE OTHER TWO UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED THEM? WELL, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEM HIRING SEVEN WE GOT NOW. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M SORRY. AND THE WAY IF WE IF WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET INTO THE NEW YEAR ANYWAY. WELL WE TWO WOULD BE FINE. JUST WHAT I'M SAYING IS IN YOUR BUDGET, WHETHER OR NOT YOU USE THEM OR NOT, IT'S UP TO YOU. BUT IT WOULD JUST BE LEFTOVER MONEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT THERE'S PEOPLE HERE THAT NEED PEOPLE. YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT NEED HELP HERE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE FIGURED INTO THIS BUDGET. RIGHT. SO ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE. YEAH, BUT YOU LOCK UP THAT MONEY, COMMISSIONER. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT HE'S GETTING AT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE FOR YOU. YEAH. Y'ALL NEED SOME HELP? WE'RE TRYING TO HELP OUT. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. BUT THAT GOOD .03. YEAH OKAY. WE TAKE TWO OFF OF THERE [01:35:10] OKAY. ANIMAL CONTROL ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER SLASH KENNEL TECHNICIAN. OBVIOUSLY WITH A NEW ANIMAL CONTROL BUILDING SOON, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAFF IT. WE'LL HAVE TO BE OUT THERE AT THE BUILDING. YEAH. WELL, ARE WE MOVING ALL THE STAFF FROM THIS BUILDING TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL? YES. THE TWO OFFICERS WILL BE MOVING OUT THERE. EVERYBODY MOVE OUT THERE. JUST TWO. JUST TWO. THEY'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY'LL BE MOVING OUT THERE, SO THEIR OFFICES WILL BE OUT THERE. SO. BUT WE DO NEED A THIRD PERSON TO, TO HELP OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME FOR THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY COME IN ADOPTIONS. LOOK AT PETS, REDEEM THE ANIMAL ANSWER CALLS. SO I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE NEEDING TO BE THERE LIKE DURING BUSINESS HOURS HERE OKAY. OKAY. FAIRGROUNDS ASSISTANCE. SO. ARE WE ALL. SO JUDGE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES WE MADE WAS ELIMINATING TWO DEPUTY BAILIFFS AND THEN THE EMC FIRE MARSHAL. WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THAT ONE, RIGHT? YEAH, WE'VE MADE. YEAH, BUT. YEAH, BUT IF IT'S NEEDED, THE SHERIFF COME BACK FOR THE OTHER TWO SLOTS, RIGHT? YEAH. HE JUST. WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW. DO THEY FIND OUT WHERE IT'S ALL GOING TO FALL? RIGHT. OKAY. THE MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT FAIRGROUND. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION? WHY? ANOTHER MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT IS NEEDED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS? NO, SHE. SHE DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY. I'M JUST SAYING I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. UNFORTUNATELY, HOMER DID A LOT OF THE WORKINGS OF THIS, AND HIS SCHEDULE HAD TO CHANGE THIS MORNING. WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT WAS. I DON'T WELL, THE FAIRGROUNDS PEOPLE WERE HERE JUST EARLIER. I UNDERSTAND IN A WAY. I KNOW THERE'S THERE WAS A REASON I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE REASON WAS. DID IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE HORSE BARNS OR. LET'S GO BACK AND LOOK. PEOPLE RETIRE AND THEY'RE LEAVING. WELL, THAT'S JUST IT. JUST THE POSITIONS. THIS IS STILL IN THE POSITION OF BEING LEFT BEHIND. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S. YEAH. I KNOW WHEN I'VE TALKED TO HER OUT THERE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SHE HAS IS WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT EVENTS GOING ON OUT THERE, HER STAFF HAS TO WORK, YOU KNOW, EVENINGS, WEEKENDS, ETCETERA. AND SO AT SOME POINT IT KIND OF BECOMES A SCHEDULING ISSUE AND SHE ENDS UP HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY RUN INTO OVERTIME AND OTHER THINGS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PERSON IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT I DO KNOW FROM TALKING TO HER IN THE PAST, WE CAN FIND OUT FROM HER. SURE WE CAN. SHE'S OKAY. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE LOAD OFF OF HER. WE'LL FIND OUT. OKAY. NOW I NOTICE IT WASN'T ON THE LIST, BUT THE. GRANTS BEING CUT, ARE WE GOING TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? SO WE DO WE DO HAVE IT BUDGETED FOR THOSE GRANTS TO SUPPLEMENT FOR 26 AND CONTINGENCY TO COVER 2026. AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT WHENEVER THIS TIME COMES AROUND NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PERSONNEL? OKAY OKAY. YEAH. WELL JUST REAL QUICK. SO I WAS GOING TO GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. JUDGE. THE NEXT ITEM ON, ON THE ON THE WORKSHOP IS A COST OF LIVING. JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THAT REAL QUICK. WE DO HAVE 4%. WE DO HAVE BUDGETED FOR ACROSS THE BOARD. WE KNOW THERE IS ACTION TAKEN AT THE LAST MONTH, THE MONTH BEFORE LAST ABOUT NOT DOING ELECTED OFFICIALS. IF Y'ALL WANTED TO CHANGE THAT, THAT MOTION NEEDS TO BE RESCINDED. IF NOT, THEN WE'LL KEEP IT AS IT IS. AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH, WE'LL TAKE THOSE NUMBERS OUT. SO. OKAY, MA'AM. STATION. OH, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ANY OKAY. SO, COMMISSIONER. OKAY, SO FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS, IT WAS FOR THE WEEKEND WORK EVENTS AND TO HELP TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT. ALSO SOME OVERTIME. OKAY. THE LAST PAGE WE HAVE IS JUST A RUNDOWN OF THE ENTITIES THAT CAME IN ASKING FOR DONATIONS. WE HAVE EVERYTHING ACCOUNTED FOR. [01:40:04] THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T. I GUESS THERE WERE A COUPLE CHANGES. THE ALLIANCE WAS FOR 6003 25. WE RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION. HALO WENT UP $750. THE METRO PLANNING ORGANIZATION DID NOT NEED A. FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM CASA. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE PAY. I THINK WE LAST PAYMENT WE MADE TO THEM WAS IN 23 OR 24. I DID NOT SEE A PAYMENT TO THEM IN 25. AND EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN THERE. I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED LETTERS. SO THEY'VE COME IN OR BOTH. JUDGE MPO DIDN'T HAVE A REQUEST THIS YEAR. YEAH. THEY DIDN'T NEED. YEAH, THEY SENT AN EMAIL. THEY DID NOT NEED FUNDING IN 1969. WAS WAS CANCELED BY THE COURT LAST WEEK. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT. TAKE THAT ONE OFF. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. YES. BEFORE WE GO BACK INTO SESSION TO MAKE A DECISION, I GUESS A CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON REVISIONS, PROPOSED BUDGET. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY REVISIONS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, AUTHORIZE AND FILING WITH COUNTY CLERK FOR POSTING OF OUR COUNTY WEBSITE AND SCHEDULE ANY NECESSARY PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'LL GET THIS OVER TO GRACEY ONCE. ONCE Y'ALL GET IT PROPOSED, WE MAKE THE CHANGES, WE'LL GET TO GRACEY TO GET STAMPED, AND WE CAN PUT ON THE WEBSITE. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC NOTICE GOING OUT IN THE NEWSPAPER THIS WEEK, AND THE HEARING WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 25TH AT 9 A.M. OKAY. TO ADOPT JUDGE, I HAVE A COUPLE BUDGET RELATED ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A CORRECT PLACE TO BRING THEM UP. MENTION IT. WE'LL SEE WHERE THEY GO. SO THE FIRST ONE IS OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT KIND OF BEEFED UP AND TAKING CARE OF ALL THE PROPERTIES WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY, INCLUDING THE FRED JONES NATURE SANCTUARY, THAT NATURE SANCTUARY, THE COASTAL BEND BAYS. NECESSARY FOLKS ARE WORKING ON GRANT MONEY FOR US FOR REPLACING THE BRIDGE AND SOME OF THE STRUCTURES THERE, BUT IT STILL REQUIRES ROUTINE MOWING AND MAINTENANCE AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF. I THINK IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE TO PUT THAT UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, RATHER THAN BEING IN PRECINCT ONE OR PRECINCT TWO, OR WHOEVER ENDS UP WITH IT. WELL, IN 2016, WE ADDED AN EXTRA EMPLOYEE TO THE PARKS AND A VEHICLE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF FRED JONES PARK AND TO CONTINUE TAKING CARE OF IT. AND I GUESS THE INFORMATION WAS LOST OVER THE YEARS. BUT WE DID ACTUALLY ADD AN EMPLOYEE TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHEN I WAS THE PARKS DIRECTOR FOR THAT, AND A VEHICLE TO THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT. WE WERE WE STARTED, BUT THE COMMISSIONERS IN PRECINCT TWO, THERE'S BEEN TWO OTHER ONES, DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF IT THEMSELVES. BUT THAT EMPLOYEE WAS ADDED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THAT AND THE VEHICLE WAS ADDED. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR IT TO FALL UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. TO ME, THAT MAKES SENSE. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WE HAVE THREE PARKS, THE HIBERNIA AND CHIPITA RODRIGUEZ PARK. BUT WE ALSO BOUGHT OUT ABOUT 25 OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WE AGREED WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND KEEP THEM CLEAN. WE HAD THEM FENCED IN. WE HAD THEM SIGN MARKED AS COUNTY PROPERTY AND SO FORTH. I KNOW SOME OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS BEING USED, I THINK, BY PRIVATE RESIDENTS FOR CATTLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THE FENCES ARE DOWN. I WANT A TOUR OF ALL THE PROPERTIES OUT THERE, AND IT WAS KIND OF DISHEARTENING TO A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE HAD DONE HAS NOT BEEN CARRIED ON FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, AND OF COURSE, SEVEN YEARS OUT THERE AND WE'VE HAD SOME FLOODS OUT THERE, BROUGHT BRANCHES AND TREES AND, AND A LOT OF STUFF. BUT THESE PROPERTIES, I DID POINT OUT THAT I BELIEVE THE OUR CHRIS WAS WITH ME THAT DAY, AND HE ALSO SAW THE SIGNS WERE GONE. AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S COUNTY PROPERTY. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE VAGRANT PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN OVERGROWN. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME CLEANING THOSE PROPERTIES AND TAKING THE HOUSES OUT, TAKING OUT THE FOUNDATIONS, TAKING OUT SEPTIC, TAKING OUT ELECTRIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE. RETAIN THOSE PROPERTIES OF GREEN SPACE. BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS. [01:45:01] BUT AFTER I RETIRED, IT WAS WAS WAS QUICK, JUST STOPPED DOING IT. HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WOULD YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT STUFF? THAT'S EQUIPMENT. SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? NINE. WE'VE GOT FOUR, I THINK. THREE CARS. THREE CARS. HOW MANY MORE DO YOU NEED? DO YOU WANT MY GUYS TO COME OUT HERE TO PORTLAND? TAKE CARE OF YOURS. IF WE'RE ASKING ALL THE BUDGETS, ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE TO TIGHTEN UP THEIR BUDGETS. I MEAN, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT PARK? IT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT. IT IS NOT IN MY PRECINCT. WHOSE PRECINCT IS IT? THE PRECINCT ONE PRECINCT WITH HIS GUYS. IF WE'RE. WE'RE ASKING ALL DEPARTMENT. WE ASK THE SHERIFF, WE ASK NORM. WE ASK EVERYBODY TO TIGHTEN UP THE BUDGET. HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADD. I CAN'T GET ANY TIGHTER RIGHT NOW. I HAVE A FOREMAN, A LEAD MAN. I HAVE THE COUNTY HAUL DRIVER, AND I HAVE ONE MAN DEDICATED TOTALLY TO THE MAINTENANCE PROJECT THAT THE JUDGE STARTED THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. WELL, I MIGHT JUST STOP DOING COUNTY ROADS AND MOWING AND JUST GO TAKE CARE OF THE PARKS TOO. BUT I IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN YOUR AREA. WELL, I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIRING NEW PEOPLE. WHAT I'VE SAID IS, I BELIEVE THE FRED JONES NATURE SANCTUARY SHOULD FALL UNDER OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. BUT IF WE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF IT, WE CAN'T. WELL, AS I SAID, A PERSON WAS ADDED OUR PEOPLE TO DO IT. THE PERSON WAS ADDED FOR FRED JONES. WHY WOULD A PARK NOT FALL UNDER OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE NATURE SANCTUARY HAS A COUNTY PARK DOESN'T FALL UNDER OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. I MEAN THAT TO ME IT JUST MAKES LOGICAL SENSE. NOW, IF YOU NEED MORE MANPOWER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. BUT I'M JUST SAYING I BELIEVE THAT THE NATURE SANCTUARY SHOULD FALL UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. WELL, THE COUNTY PARKS ACTUALLY FALL UNDER THE COUNTY JUDGE. IT WAS ASSIGNED TO COMMISSIONER MORENO BACK WHEN I RETIRED AND THEN WAS TRANSFERRED TO COMMISSIONER WILKERSON AFTER SHE BECAME INTO OFFICE. AND NOW IT'S UNDER COMMISSIONER GONZALES. BUT ORIGINALLY FOR OVER 15, ALMOST 20 YEARS, IT WAS UNDER THE COUNTY JUDGE. SO I DON'T MIND TAKING CARE OF WHAT'S IN MY PRECINCT, BUT IT'S JUST TOO HARD TO SEND THOSE GUYS OUT ALL THE WAY UP. PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. IT'S NOT A PRECINCT THREE PARKS DEPARTMENT. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE. THIS IS WHAT I TOOK OVER HERE SEVEN MONTHS AGO. I REALIZED THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S CORRECT. NOBODY TOLD ME IT WAS FOR THE WHOLE. THE WHOLE COUNTY? YES. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS THE COUNTY'S PARKS DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT A PRECINCT THREE PARKS DEPARTMENT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT PARK IS. DO WE HAVE THE TITLE OF THAT PARK? YES WE DO. IT'S. IT'S BEEN CHANGED SPECIFICALLY SAYS IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT AND HAVE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE TITLE ISSUE. COMMISSIONER. YEAH. NO, IT'S BEEN CORRECTED. I DID I DID CORRECT IT. THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. BUT I'M SAYING IN IN 2016, WE ADDED A POSITION IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO TAKE CARE OF FRED JONES PARK. THAT'S AT FOURTH POSITION. ORIGINALLY WHEN I STARTED, WE HAD ONE ONE PERSON TAKING CARE OF IT AND ALL THREE PARKS. I GUESS IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE A DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. DEPARTMENT HEAD TO JUST OVERSEE. YES, SIR. PARKS, WE HAVE ONE. WHO? MR. ALLEN? THAT'S IN MATHIS. BUT IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, PARK DIRECTOR'S LISTED AS A COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER OVERSEES THE PARKS. I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S SET UP THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT? WHY DOES THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FALL UNDER A COMMISSIONER? IT SHOULDN'T. THE FIRST PLACE, ALL UNDER THE COUNTY JUDGE AND BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD? JUST LIKE TO RUN AROUND THE COUNTY AND GO TO ALL THE MEALS AND MEETINGS THAT I GOT TO AND RUN A PARKS DEPARTMENT? THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY I GAVE IT UP. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD TO DO THAT TO. WHO IS THE PARKS DIRECTOR, MR. ALLEN? WELL, THAT'S WHAT HE'S DOING, RIGHT. AND IF HE. OKAY, LET ME LET ME. CAN I ADD SOMETHING HERE? SURE, IF I MAY. ALRIGHT. THE AIRPORT MANAGER IS ACTUALLY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE. HE HAS DELEGATED THOSE DUTIES TO PRECINCT FOUR COMMISSIONER. BECAUSE I LET GO OF THE LAST AIRPORT MANAGER. WHEN THE JUDGE LOOKED AT ME. SO NORMA WAS THERE. SO. AND I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT AVIATION AND AIRPORTS, SO IT WORKS JUST FINE WITH ME BEING. AND MR. DAVIS TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING AVIATION. ALRIGHT. AND DO YOU DO AVIATION MAINTENANCE OUTSIDE OF PRECINCT FOUR? SITTING. YEAH. SITTING. AIRPORT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S A COUNTY POSITION. [01:50:01] IT'S NOT BASED ON PRECINCTS. SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S AND WE HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND IT ALL SEEMS TO GO JUST FINE. BUT MY AIRPORT MANAGER, THE JUDGES AIRPORT MANAGER ACTUALLY MANAGES BOTH AIRPORTS AND WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY TROUBLE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THE PARKS DIRECTOR COULDN'T MANAGE ALL THE PARKS WORK IF HE HAS THE RIGHT PEOPLE. AND COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ JUST OVERSEES WHAT HE DOES NOT ACTUALLY ASSIGNS HIM. JUST THEY DO WHAT THE PARK GUY TELLS HIM TO DO. ANYWAY, THAT'S MY $0.02 WORTH AND I'M TIRED OF THE MEETING, SO I'M GOING TO SHUT UP NOW. I'LL ASK A QUESTION. PATRICK, DOES THE PARK PARK DIRECTOR, MR. ALLEN SIGN POSTS? I WOULD HAVE TO ASK. DOES HE SIGN? LEAVE? REQUEST? VACATION REQUEST. I HAVE NOT SEEN. I LOOK AND SEE. YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE LEAVE REQUEST, RIGHT? WHAT I'M SAYING. HE DOES THAT IN-HOUSE. HE KNOWS WHEN HIS STAFF COMES AND GOES. YEAH. AS FAR AS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE A BUDGET, IT HAS ITS OWN. IT HAS ITS OWN BUDGET, BUT ITS OWN EQUIPMENT. IT HAS ITS OWN EMPLOYEES. SO IT'S UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND THE ONLY REASON IT'S UNDER COMMISSIONER THREE WAS BECAUSE EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS TO BE UNDER AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. AND DUE TO THE LOCATION THEY SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THEY ASSIGNED IT TO COMMISSIONER THREE. I'M GOING TO NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET. OUR EQUIPMENT IS OUTDATED. WELL, WHAT A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS BOUGHT WITH MONEY. I MEAN, IS ALL THAT EQUIPMENT STILL THERE? I MEAN. WELL, WE JUST WE JUST NEED TO GET A GET TOGETHER IF WE'RE GOING TO BE. I MEAN, THE LAWNMOWERS ARE USING RIGHT NOW ARE THE ONES I BOUGHT 15, 20 YEARS AGO. I GOT A TRUCK THAT WON'T MAKE IT. NO. THIS COMES BACK TO MY INITIAL COMMENTS. THE COUNTY OWNS SEVERAL PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT ARE ASSETS TO OUR COUNTY, AND THEY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR USE. AND IF THEY FALL UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THEN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE MAINTAINING THOSE SO THAT WE'LL SET UP A BUDGET. THERE IS A BUDGET, THERE IS A BUDGET AND WE'LL ADD EQUIPMENT WE NEED. AND I DIDN'T SEE THE DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GIVE A BUDGET PRESENTATION THIS YEAR. WE DID THREE I DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A TRAILER DO YOU? A TRUCK THAT CAN GO ACROSS THE COUNTY. SO ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED WAS PURCHASED FOR THE PARK OVER THERE WOULD SEE THAT MONEY IN. THAT 25 FOOT TRAILER THAT WAS WITH THE GOOSENECK ON IT WAS PURCHASED BY THE. SEE THAT MONEY FOR THE PARKS BE ABLE TO TRANSFER EQUIPMENT. PLUS WE ALSO HAD A PRECINCT ONE CONSTABLE TRAILER THAT WAS BEING USED FOR WHEN THEY WERE DOING ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF, PICKING UP TRASH THAT WAS ALSO GIVEN TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MOVED OVER THERE. I DON'T I DID IT MYSELF AND WE ALSO TRANSFERRED LAWNMOWERS THAT WAY. SO THERE WAS TWO TRAILERS ASSIGNED. I GOT A JUNK PILE OUT THERE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT. I'VE ASKED THE AUDITORS TO SCRAP OUT. THAT WHOLE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE REVAMPED. I UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT I THAT WAS MY FOCUS TO BEGIN WITH. WE NEED TO PLUS UP OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. IT IS A 25 FOOT TRAILER JUNK. NOW THE GOOSENECK. IT'S JUNK. EVEN HAD A THAT WAS BRAND NEW. OKAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING NOWHERE VERY FAST RIGHT NOW OKAY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO WRAP THIS UP AND YEAH I'LL BRING UP MY NEXT TOPIC. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. NEXT TOPIC IS OUR EXISTING MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN PRECINCTS ONE AND TWO. AND I BELIEVE BETWEEN PRECINCTS ONE AND FOUR, I WOULD SUGGEST WE CARRY THESE OVER FOR ANOTHER YEAR. THE CURRENT ONES END AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THESE WERE PUT INTO PLACE TO HELP BALANCE THE WORKLOAD BETWEEN PRECINCTS, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE PRECINCT BOUNDARIES ARE DRAWN BASED ON POPULATION AND NOT MILES OF ROADS. AND THIS IS ONE TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO HELP BALANCE THINGS OUT. AND IT'S A WAY THAT HELPS US BE MORE ECONOMICAL AND MORE EFFICIENT WITH OUR COUNTY DOLLARS AS WE'RE ADJUSTING MOVEMENTS. AT SOME POINT, IF WE MOVE TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ROAD SYSTEM, THEN THAT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO IN THE MEANTIME, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. OKAY. COME ON. THAT'S BETWEEN I GUESS ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. Y'ALL NEED TO DECIDE ON THAT. WELL, GOT SOME PARKS I CAN GIVE THEM. SO [01:55:07] ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE. SO. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN WORKSHOP AT 11:05 A.M. AND WE WILL GO TO. OUR AGENDA ITEM. HERE. OKAY. THE FIRST ONE THAT WE WILL HAVE WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON YOUR AGENDA. LET ME GET THOSE RIGHT AND EVERYTHING APPROVED. MARCY I'LL JUST STAND RIGHT HERE. OKAY. ITEM SEVEN CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A NEW NO NEW TAX REVENUE RATE AND VOTER APPROVAL RATE CALCULATION. THE PROPOSED TAX RATES AND SCHEDULE, ANY NECESSARY PUBLIC HEARINGS. EVERYBODY APPROVED THE RATES THAT WERE PRESENTED ON THIS BUDGET. WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT PIECES OF PAPER. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE ONE WHERE THE RATES AGAIN. SO EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT. SO THE PROPOSED THE RATE FOR THE COUNTY IS 0.320869. THE RATE FOR DEBT SERVICE OR INS IS 0.037245. AND THE RATE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE IS 0.090580. THE PROPOSED RATES FOR THE COUNTY, OR THE RATE IS 0.292105. I'M SORRY GENERAL, JUST. GENERAL. YES, SIR. GENERA. FUND. THE ROAD BRIDGE PROPOSED RATE IS 0.080411. AND THEN THE PROPOSED DEBT RATE OR THE INS IS 0.037245. OKAY. OKAY. ARE YOU READY? I'M READY. OKAY I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT. WE SET THE RATES AT FOR THE GENERAL .292105 FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, 0.080411 FOR INS ENTRANCE AND SINKING 0.037245. THAT GIVES US AN MA'O OF 0.372516, ADDED TO THE INS OF 0.037245 GIVES US A TOTAL OF 0.40976. AS THE RATE COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER. OKAY. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN, THANK GOD. [a. Consideration and action on each new position requested by respective departments for FY 2026. ] OKAY. THAT ONE'S DONE. OKAY. ITEM SEVEN A IS CONSIDERATION ACTION ON EACH NEW POSITION REQUESTED BY RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. SO YOU HAVE THE LIST AS THE AS AS AS AS AMENDED. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE NEW POSITIONS, THE AMENDED PART IS THAT WE NO LONGER NEED TO LOOK AT THE SOCIAL MEDIA SPECIALIST FOR THE EMC FIRE MARSHAL, AS WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO DELETE FOR NOW, TWO OF THE DEPUTY BAILIFFS, OTHER THAN THAT STANDS AS WRITTEN. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOT A MOTION SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. UNANIMOUS. SEVEN B CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON [b. Consideration and action on setting a Cost Of Living Adjustment for FY 2026. ] SETTING A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 AT 4%. I MOVE. WE SET THE COST OF LIVING FOR THE RANK AND FILE AT 4%, WITH NO COST OF LIVING FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS. SECOND, OKAY, I GOT A MOTION. GILLESPIE SECONDED BY SIKORSKI. OKAY. COME ON. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SO I SAY AYE. ARE YOU OKAY? YES. I'M OPPOSING. OKAY. BUT I ONLY HEARD YOUR VOTE ON YAY OR I VOTED YAY. YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY. OKAY. YEAH, WE GOT FOUR YAYS AND ONE WRITING, IF YOU LIKE, OKAY, SO. OKAY, SO THAT PASSED 4 TO 1 [c. Consideration and action on revisions to San Patricio County's Proposed Budget, authorize filing with County Clerk and posting on our County website and schedule any necessary public hearings.] [02:00:01] SEVEN C IS CONSIDERATION OF ACTION ON REVISIONS TO THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED BUDGET. AUTHORIZED FILING WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, AND POSTING ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE, AND SCHEDULE ANY NECESSARY PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION, SECONDED BY CZACHORSKI. ANY COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. UNANIMOUS MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE'RE DOWN TO THAT POINT. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION. WAIT A MINUTE, MARCY. YOU SAID SOMETHING. WAIT. SO WE'VE GOT OUR TAX RATES, BUT WE DID NOT SET THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING. WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING. I'M SORRY. PUBLIC MEETING WOULD BE AUGUST 20TH YET. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE 25TH BECAUSE I'LL HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE FOURTH. OKAY, THEN I'LL RENEW MY MOTION TO ADJOURN. WAIT A MINUTE. WELL, YEAH, I WITHDRAW. I WITHDRAW MINE, YOU AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND AMEND MY MOTION FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AUTHORIZE THE FILING. COUNTY CLERK POSTING ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE, AND WE NEED TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PUBLIC MEETING TO ADOPT THE TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE. THANK YOU. ON THE 25TH AUGUST SECOND AUGUST 25TH AT 9 A.M. OR. THANK YOU. WHY DON'T YOU JUST COME UP HERE AND TALK? IT'S MUCH EASIER. RIGHT AT 9 A.M, 9 A.M, SECOND AMENDMENT. ALL I'M THINKING ABOUT IS GETTING OUT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW. OKAY? YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I'LL GET YOU OUT OF HERE. JUST A MINUTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. TO THAT AMENDED MOTION. SAY AYE. AYE TO ADJOURN. OKAY, OKAY. NOW THAT YOU'RE ADJOURNED, I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. PATRICK, OUR AUDITOR. IF ANYBODY. OH, ISN'T THAT SWEET? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO ADJOURN? I OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.