Jun 09, 2025 Commissioner's Court

[1. Call meeting to order]

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YOU DON'T HAVE TO. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGES AND THEN WE'LL GET STARTED. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR. TEXAS FLAG, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO ME. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. OKAY. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME A LITTLE BIT BETTER THIS MORNING THAN LAST WEEK, BECAUSE I FEEL ABOUT A 50% BETTER TODAY THAN I DID LAST MONDAY NIGHT OR AFTERNOON, I GUESS. SO I'M PROGRESSING REAL WELL AND STUFF, SO GETTING ENERGY BACK, EATING LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS. I WAS DOWN TO 215 POUNDS, BUT I'M SURE I'M GOING TO GAIN SOME WEIGHT HERE AS MUCH AS I'VE BEEN EATING. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE PRAYERS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S COME THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY AND STUFF, AND I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. SO THANK YOU. CITIZENS, TO BE HEARD. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS THIS MORNING FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, SO WE WILL MOVE ON. REPORT FROM JUDGES,

[4. Report from Judge, Commissioner or Department concerning an item/report of community interest.]

WE'RE PATCHING ON COUNTY ROAD 25, 67, 27, 63 IN THE SITTING AREA. AND WE'RE STILL PUTTING UP STREET SIGNS IN SAINT PAUL AND LAKESIDE AREA, SAINT PAUL. ON SATURDAY, WE HAD THAT CLEANUP TIRE DRIVE OUT THERE AND THAT WAS A BIG SUCCESS. SO WE HAD WE FILLED UP ALL FIVE DUMPSTERS.

THANK YOU. WELL, MR. GILLESPIE. YES, SIR. YOUR HONOR, WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR NEW NAVIGATION DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR. SO IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED, PLEASE SEE ME OR STOP BY OUR OFFICE. PICK UP AN APPLICATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD? HEY, MR. JUST WANTED TO THANK COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND HIS CREW AND MY STAFF FOR THE CLEAN UP THIS PAST SATURDAY. IT WENT VERY WELL. THANK YOU. SAINT PAUL LOOKS GREAT. THANK YOU. GAMBLE FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF OUT THERE. THANK YOU. SHERIFF. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? OKAY, I DID MINE EARLY. OKAY. JUST THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. OKAY, MOVING ON

[1. Approval of minutes]

[a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.]

CONSIDERATION OF CLAIMS AGAINST THE COUNTY WILL PAY THE BILLS. SECOND, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO PATRICK FOR HAVING THOSE OUT THERE ON THE AGENDA. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK MY

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[b. Consideration and action on Budget Line Items, Transfers, and Amendments.]

[c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ]

MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECOND BY CHARLIE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS, MISS GARCIA? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

[3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:]

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES OKAY.

[a. Discuss, consider and take action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grant Manager, for Amendment #2 to the Grant Administration Services contract for the Community Development Block Grant – Mitigation (CDBG-MIT) Method of Distribution (MOD) Program Contract Number # 24-065-146-F005. Tabled from the May 12, 2025 Commissioners Court Meeting.]

[3. PERSONNEL-Employment and current employee status changes in accordance with the current personnel policies, County Budget, and State law with notification of such changes to the payroll division of the Treasurer's office.]

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OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE RECESS SAY AYE? AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

[a. FY 2026 BUDGET PRESENTATIONS (Please note times are approximate as some presentations may run shorter or longer) 10:00 am:Judge Karen Diaz, Justice of the Peace, Precinct 4 10:05 am: Meliza Garcia, WIC Director 10:10 am: Marie Montoya, Intoxilyzer 10:15 am: Gary Davis, Airport Manager 10:20 am: Rudy Guzman, Veterans Service Office 10:25 am: Jason Woods, Pre-Trial Services 10:30 am: Jason Woods, Adult Supervision 10:35 am: April Garcia, Treasurer 10:40 am: Kathy Farrow, AgriLife Extension 10:45 am: Sheriff Oscar Rivera/Chief Deputy Adrian Rodriguez, Sheriff's Office/Courthouse Security 10:50 am: Jail 10:55 am: Patrick Kieschnick, County Auditors 11:00 am: Charity Franco, Juvenile Probation 11:05 am: Rosa Guzman, Fairgrounds 11:10 am: Melanie Cooper, Grants Management 11:15 am: DPS 11:20 am: Debra Sanders/Judge Krebs, for Government Legal Affairs/PIO 11:25 am: John Doria, Buildings & Yards 11:35 am: Pam Hill, Elections Administration 11:40 am: Clifford Edge (Mr. Kippy), County Library & Adult Literacy 11:45 am Recess for Lunch ]

HOME AND. OKAY, GREAT. SO.

HOW'S IT GOING? ARE YOU READY? OKAY. GOOD MORNING. I'M CHARITY FRANCO. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF JUVENILE PROBATION, AND I'M HERE FOR OUR DETENTION CENTER. WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN OUR BUDGET OF $140,481, $110,481 IS FROM SALARY INCREASE FOR THOSE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE AND INSURANCE. AND THEN THERE IS A $70,000 REQUEST, WHICH IS ONLY A 30% OR 3000, I'M SORRY, $30,000 INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR. AND THAT IS FOR OUR FIRE ALARM SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS VERY OUTDATED AND HAS PROBABLY BEEN FOR A WHILE, BUT WITH THE NEW BUILDING, WE HAVE TO UPGRADE IT TO INCLUDE OUR NEW BUILDING AND TO BE ABLE TO DO BOTH THE DETENTION CENTER PLUS OUR NEW BUILDING. THE OTHER THING FOR DETENTION BUILDING LAST YEAR WE WERE AT $466,000 AND 2525. WE ARE ON TRACK TO MAKE OUR BUDGET REQUEST TO THIS YEAR. CURRENTLY THROUGH MAY, WE HAVE RECEIVED $205,000 FOR CONTRACT DETENTION. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MISS.

BET YOU'RE READY. YEAH OKAY. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE 2026 BUDGET FOR

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THANK YOU. DAVIS. GOOD MORNING. WE'LL MAKE THAT EASIER. SO BUDGET FOR. INGLESIDE AIRPORT.

THE ONLY THING IT REALLY CHANGED IN IT WAS THE INSURANCE DRAMATICALLY WENT UP. AND THEN WE HAVE SITTING THERE IN JULY OF 26, WE HAVE TWO ELIGIBLE PAY RAISES IN THERE. SO IT'LL BE HALF YEAR. SO THOSE ARE IN THERE. AND WE'RE 110,000 FOR OUR RAMP, WHICH IS THE ROUTINE AIRPORT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. THAT'S A 9010 FROM THE STATE. AND THEN ALSO DOWN HERE WITH THE MASTER PLAN BEING APPROVED SOMEWHERE ABOUT FY 29, WE'D LIKE TO DO THE RUNWAY EXTENSION THAT WOULD KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE. WE JUST FINISHED UP THE FEMA BUILDING OR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BUILDING. WE GOT THE JUSTICE CENTER. SHERIFF WANTS A NEW PRISON OR JAIL, NOT PRISON.

JAIL. SO A LOT OF NEW THINGS COMING IN THERE. SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE GET PUT 250,000 FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT'LL GET US ABOUT $10 MILLION WORTH OF AIRPORT RENOVATIONS AT INGLESIDE. AND THAT'S ROUGHLY 25. THAT'LL INCLUDE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PAVEMENTS, TAXIWAY LIGHTS AND THOSE ITEMS. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST A LITTLE BIT EACH TIME FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, INSTEAD OF ONE BIG LUMP SUM. AND AGAIN, THAT'S A 9010 OVERALL 14.76 BUDGET REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR. AND WE'LL MOVE TO SINTON. AND SINTON IS ONLY A MILE, 1.1.

3% REDUCTION IN IT OR REALLY OUTSTANDING. BIGGEST THING THERE IS STILL THE RAMP GRANT 100 110,000 FOR 9010. NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN PAYROLL OTHER THAN JUST THE INSURANCE. AND THAT WAS A BIG HIT FROM 78,000 ALL THE WAY UP TO 12,000 IN PERSONNEL NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD, BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALL ON A PIECE OF PAPER THAT JUST LAYS OUT WHERE EVERYBODY IS. AND THEN AUDITORS WANTED THEIR SHEETS. 25 REQUEST PULLS UP THAT STEPS AND THAT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM MYSELF GENTLEMEN. JERRY COULD YOU PRINT OUT OF THOSE I'M SORRY TO PRINT OUT. YES, YES. YOU HAVE A PRINT OUT. IT'S RIGHT THERE ON YOUR DESK, SIR. SHOULD HAVE A COPY ON YOUR DESK. OH, THERE IT IS.

OKAY. SORRY. AND IT'S EMAILED TO YOU ALSO. OKAY. GOOD THING. THANK YOU. GARY, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING ON THE BACK. YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THAT WATER TANK THERE. IF WE CAN DO, LIKE, A 5000 GALLON TANK WITH THE PUMP SO WE CAN FILL UP OUR TRUCKS QUICKER. I KNOW IT'S TAKING US ABOUT AN HOUR. IT DOES TO FILL UP. LET'S PUT SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR A BIG HOLDING TANK WITH THE FLOAT SWITCH. THAT WAY WE CAN CRANK IT ON AND FILL UP OUR TRUCKS OR FIRE TRUCKS OR WHATEVER WE HAVE QUICKER. OKAY, IT'S GOT A FIVE HORSE UP ON IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'LL STEAL

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JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M WITH THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE. YOU SHOULD HAVE MY PAPERWORK IN FRONT OF YOU. IF NOT, I HAVE A PACKET HERE AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR OVERALL BUDGET IS DECREASING BY A LITTLE MORE THAN $1,000. WE ARE OUR EMPLOYEES.

SALARIES WILL REMAIN THE SAME. WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY INCREASES AT THIS TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE ARE OPTING INTO THE COUNTY'S PHONE PLAN. SO THEREFORE WE'RE REDUCING OUR PHONE ALLOWANCE. WE'RE SHIFTING $500 FROM OUR CONFERENCE AND ASSOCIATION DUES AND A TRAVEL WE MUST CONDUCT ANNUAL TRAINING WITH, WITH THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION AND WITH THE VA TO MAINTAIN OUR OUR CREDENTIALS. FOR INSTANCE, NEXT MONTH WE HAVE OUR WEEK LONG TRAINING UP IN NORTH TEXAS. AGAIN, AN OVERALL NO REAL CHANGES. WE ARE DECREASING OUR BUDGET IN TOTAL PENDING. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S ROSTER BY THE TIME WE WALK UP HERE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY BAD. WE GOT FIVE BUDGETS TO PRESENT THIS MORNING. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS COMMUNICATIONS BUDGET FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND WE'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES HERE BECAUSE OF SOFTWARE LICENSING FOR OUR RADIO SYSTEM IS NOW $53,000 A YEAR. SO WE PUT IN HAD TO CHANGE THAT. BUT WE LOWERED DOWN OUR EQUIPMENT STUFF BECAUSE WE'VE ALL OUR STUFF IS NEW, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT COST. ONE OF THE THINGS I NEED TO NOTE ON THAT IS THAT WE DO BRING IN ABOUT $121,000 FROM REVENUE WITH A RADIO SYSTEM, BECAUSE WE CHARGE AIRTIME AND DPS BEING OUR BIGGEST CUSTOMER RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE 24 UNITS, BUT WE'RE FIXING TO HAVE 49 RADIO SUBSCRIBERS WITH DPS THAT THEY'RE NOT ON THE RADIO SYSTEM STATEWIDE OR SOUTH TEXAS WIDE, SHOULD I SAY. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE AN OFFSET THERE THAT WILL HELP US OUT. THE NEXT ONE IS A COASTAL BEND COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE STILL DO THIS. ONE IS THAT MANY YEARS AGO, THEY USED TO PROVIDE US ABOUT 100, $150,000 OR EX ACCESS MONEY, EXCESS MONEY THAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER FROM NINE-ONE-ONE FUNDS THAT'S COLLECTED. BUT SINCE HARVEY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A PENNY FROM FROM COG, AND MY PAY GRADE IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO GET ANSWERS WHY WE DON'T GET PAID THAT MONEY ANYMORE. SO WE DON'T SEE THAT MONEY ANYMORE LIKE WE USED TO.

CAN I CAN I ELABORATE ON THAT? BASICALLY IS WE'RE THE LARGEST ENTITY IN THE COG THAT'S NOT COLLECTING OUR OWN 911 MONIES. AND EVERY TWO YEARS BIENNIUM, WHEN THE STATE MEETS ANY MONIES THAT ARE LEFT OVER FROM THE WHAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THE COG COMES BACK TO THE LARGEST ENTITY. NOW

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CURRENTLY IT'S WHAT? YEAH. YES. SO WE HAVE AND FOR BREAD PRICES WENT CRAZY. IF I KNOW WHY NEXT THING IS. YEAH. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SIDE. THE BIGGEST ONE IS GOING TO BE THE SOFTWARE LICENSING SUPPORT. WE KEEP SEEING. WE HAVE SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY NOW THAT REQUIRES SOFTWARE SUPPORT FOR OUR PHONE, THE PHONE DUMP SYSTEM, FOR OUR CAMERA SYSTEM, FOR THE JAIL

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THE REST OF THEM BELONG TO US. WE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO AND PAULA, WHICH IS THREE, THREE PEOPLE AT THE COURTHOUSE. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE NINE. SO FIVE MORE FOLKS WITH THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? YES. HERE ON YOUR FUEL THAT YOU'RE BUYING FROM THE CITY OF. EXCUSE ME.

WHAT WHAT UNITS ARE USING THAT. WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I KNOW THE SENATE AND THE LEGISLATURE PASSED OUR BILL, THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING ANY MORE SALES TAX ON FUEL. IT'S ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK WAITING TO BE SIGNED. SO DOES THAT BENEFIT US IN A WAY, OR DO WE NOT PAY IN THE STATE PORTION OF IT NOW BECAUSE WE BUY FUEL MOST OF THE TIME, THE CITY PUMP, IT DOESN'T AFFECT US AS AS MUCH BECAUSE WE'RE USING THEY'RE THEY'RE BUYING THE FUEL. IT'S THEMSELVES. IT'S WHEN WE USE OUR CREDIT CARDS AND WE USE A LOT OF CREDIT CARDS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE THREE VENDORS THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S WHERE YOU START SEEING THE COST. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF, AND I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS, AND IT TERRIFIES ME JUST TO DRIVE OVER THERE AND SEE THE SIGN THAT THE PUMP IS DOWN, THE PUMP IS DOWN. IT GOES FOR WEEKS, WEEKS, WEEKS. SO WE'RE FORCED TO GO OUT IN TOWN AND USE THE CREDIT CARDS. AND I HOPE TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND BUILDING A FUELING STATION AT MY BARN WITH THE COUNTY. AND THAT WOULD WOULD ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM WHEN WE HAVE TOTAL CONTROL, DEFINITELY WOULD BE. NOW, WE DID DO A STUDY, CHIEF, AND I DID ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO THAT, AND IT REALLY WASN'T BENEFICIAL FOR US. THE NUMBERS WEREN'T THAT THAT GREAT AS OPPOSED TO THE PRECINCTS, MY GOD, PRECINCTS.

FUEL BECAUSE OF THE DIESEL FUEL IS OUTRAGEOUS COMPARED TO OURS. SO IT WASN'T IT WASN'T COST EFFECTIVE FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE USING A CITY PUMP. WE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, APPLES AND ORANGES ON THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT OF IT, THAT WE LOOKED AT IT BECAUSE OF THE CITY PUMP, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT THAT BIG OF A COST FACTOR FOR US. I'M LOOKING BASICALLY NOT JUST FOR PRECINCT ONE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I'M LOOKING AT ALL COUNTY VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO AND ALL COUNTY WIDE. IF WE ONLY SAW ONE PRECINCT, IT WAS PRECINCT THREE THAT WE LOOKED AT, AND THEIR FUEL COST SAVINGS WOULD BE TREMENDOUS COMPARED TO OURS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, SIMPLY BECAUSE

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YEAH, I KNOW WE DON'T PAY FOR THAT ANYMORE. YEAH. OKAY. WE WASH ON CARS. WE DON'T. WE DON'T GO TO CAR WASHES. I KNOW I SPEND MONEY OUT THERE, I PAY MY OWN. BUT A LOT OF GUYS DO THAT AS A LUXURY OF HAVING A CAR TAKE HOME. THEY'LL THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND PAY THE TO GET IT WASHED AND THAT HELPS OUT. AND WE HAVE A POLICY. IF YOU SHOW UP WITH DIRTY CAR THE CAR LEAVE IT THERE. WE'RE NOT DRIVING HOME. THERE YOU GO. YES. YOU HAVE ANYTHING, CHIEF? OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. I SEEM TO ALWAYS. GO AFTER THE LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THAT'S OUR RIGHT. THE LEGISLATURE DOES. RIGHT? HERE. WE GOT SOME MORE.

RIGHT, 11. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I KNOW MY BUDGET IS PROBABLY SHOCKING, Y'ALL. I'M ASKING FOR 250,000 MORE. WE HAVE 11 BILLS THAT ARE SITTING ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK READY TO BE SIGNED. THE BIGGEST ONE IS SENATE BILL 2753. IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. ALL 11 HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. IT'S JUST WAITING ON THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN THEM. 2753 WILL REQUIRE US TO GO STRAIGHT FROM EARLY VOTING ON MONDAY INTO ELECTION DAY. ON TUESDAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MY ELECTION WORKERS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPLIT THAT TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN WORK STRAIGHT THROUGH. NOW, THINK ABOUT MY STAFF HERE AND THEY'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ALL THOSE DAYS. SOME OF THEM, EVEN THOUGH THE POLLS ARE OPEN 12 HOURS, WE ARE THERE LONGER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE OPEN. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CLOSED. WE HAVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE AFTER WE GET ALL THE REPORTS. SO ON MONDAY AT 7:00, WHEN THE POLLS CLOSE FOR EARLY VOTING, IT IS THEN OUR JOB TO GET ELECTION DAY SET UP AND ELECTION DAY WILL ALSO BE OUT OF MY OFFICE. SO MY OFFICE NOW THAT IS THE MAIN EARLY VOTING LOCATION WILL NOW BE THE MAIN ELECTION DAY LOCATION. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE VOTING GOING ON WITH MY STAFF TRYING TO DO ALL THE JOB OF ALL OF THE OTHER 13 LOCATIONS. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE TAXING ON THEM. AND BUT THEY'RE ALL DEDICATED WORKERS, AND I'VE SEEN THEM WORK AROUND THE CLOCK GETTING READY FOR ELECTIONS. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT MY BUDGET, THE ELECTION AS MYSELF, I'M NOT ASKING FOR MORE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, JANUARY WILL BE MY FINAL MONTH OF BEING ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR. I WILL RESIGN AND THE NEXT APPOINTMENT OFFICIAL WILL TAKE OVER ON FEBRUARY THE 1ST. SO. BUT IF YOU'LL LOOK AT REGULAR EMPLOYEES AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE, I WANT TO GO OVER THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE SAME THING HAPPENING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE YEARS PAST. SO LAURA STEVENS IS MY ASSISTANT ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR. WHEN I GO INTO ALL OF THE OTHER ELECTION OFFICES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, YOU'RE ASSISTANT SHOULD BE PAID 75% OF WHAT YOUR ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR SHOULD BE PAID. SO IF WE PAY HER THE 75% AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE DID THIS LAST SALARY STUDY, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT PUT MY STAFF IN THE GRADE THAT THEY NEED TO BE. IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON GRADES, THEN I WANT TO RAISE THE GRADE BECAUSE SARAH IS THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR. I WANT TO RAISE HER TO GRADE 107. AND THEN WITH

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IT'S GOING TO BE FURNITURE, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. AND WE'VE ALWAYS BOUGHT AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S THE SAME THING. YEAH WE CAN USE THAT. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S DISTRIBUTION. SO YOU KNOW. SORRY. ARE YOU STILL TALKING. YEAH. GO AHEAD. NO. GO AHEAD. OH I'M SORRY MICHELLE, HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE ASSIGNED TO YOUR DEPARTMENT? JUST ONE. JUST ONE. WE HAVE JUST THE WE HAVE JUST THE VAN THAT WE FILL TO THE VERY TOP. AND WHEN WE IF WE HAD TO SLAM ON OUR BRAKES, IT WOULD HIT US IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD. SO WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? A CARGO VAN? WE'RE NOT FOR SURE. WE'D LIKE TO FOR SURE HAVE A SUBURBAN SO THAT WE CAN TRAVEL WITH OUR CERTIFICATIONS. WE DO A LOT OF TRAVELING TO DIFFERENT CONFERENCES TO GET THAT. WE ALSO HAVE TO FLY. SO TO KEEP CERTIFIED, MOST OF THAT IS OUT OF STATE. OUR ORGANIZATION IS WORKING ON GETTING SOME IN TEXAS, BUT MOST OF IT IS OUT OF STATE. AND SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE HOW HIGH OUR LET'S SEE, 2024, WE SPENT 8159 ON TRAVEL. I BELIEVE IT'S 2023. WE SPENT 11,000 SOMETHING. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE FLIGHTS AND THE MILEAGE THAT WE SPEND DRIVING AROUND CHECKING ON THESE POLLING PLACES EVERY DAY, SOMETIMES 2 OR 3 TIMES A DAY. WE'RE OUT THERE BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM, I'M GOING TO ONE OF MY STAFF TO BE THERE TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET OUR ELECTIONS BE SCRUTINIZED AT ALL. WELL, I'M THINKING MAYBE YOU NEED TWO VEHICLES, ONE FOR TRAVEL AND A SEPARATE ONE LIKE A CARGO VAN, THAT YOU CAN MOVE THESE MACHINES AND EQUIPMENT AROUND WITH. AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S YOU TAKE ONE OF THOSE GREAT BIG HUMONGOUS VEHICLES ON THE ROAD WITH ONE PERSON OR TWO PEOPLE IN IT. IS IT NOT COST EFFECTIVE? I KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE VEHICLES AND I'VE STATED THIS BEFORE. WE'VE GOT VEHICLES PARKED OUT HERE. I HAVE NOT MOVED SINCE JANUARY WHEN I TOOK OFFICE. AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THESE VEHICLES EXCEPT THEIR TIRES ARE STARTING TO GET SQUARE. FROM SITTING SO LONG. SO I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON THAT I MEAN, THIS THIS. YOU STILL HAVE A SIX MONTHS LEFT OF THIS YEAR IN ANOTHER NOVEMBER ELECTION COMING UP. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A BIG ONE. IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AND SO FORTH. BUT STILL YOU STILL HAVE TO GET THE MOVING EQUIPMENT AND STUFF. SO AND IF THE STATE IS READY COME NOVEMBER, WE HAVE TO GO TO WE HAVE TO HONOR OR FOLLOW SENATE BILL 2753, WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US THIS YEAR. THE EARLY VOTING STRAIGHT INTO ELECTION DAY. SO WE CAN'T WAIT FOR 2026 BUDGET. WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. AND WE DO HAVE THAT MONEY IN OUR 252 FUND.

AND I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE CAN USE THAT FUND. AND SO I WILL BE MEETING WITH PATRICK AND HOMER OVER THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT. THAT IS THE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE THAT INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET. YEAH.

YOU CAN'T SEE PATRICK SMILING. WELL MY CUP IS GOING TO BE OVER HERE. OH, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SMILING HOMER. STEALING. YEAH. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT 252? NO. I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF JUST CLARIFYING WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION THAT WE NEED. RIGHT. AND I SPOKE TO HOMER AND THERE IS NO CLARIFICATION. THE CLARIFICATION IS IN THE LAW THAT IT IS TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING THAT IS ELECTION RELATED. OKAY. WHEN I

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YES. ABOUT HOW OFTEN DO YOU TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OUT OF TOWN FOR CONFERENCES WITH THE STATE? WE HAVE TWO. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A EXTRA ONE COMING UP THIS WEEK IN BEEVILLE ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. SO MY OFFICE WILL BE CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY FOR US TO GO TO BEEVILLE. AND THIS IS A TRAINING THAT THE STATE'S PUTTING ON BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING SO MANY CHANGES. SO WE DON'T EVER KNOW FOR SURE. BUT THERE'S THE ASSOCIATION ONE THAT'S ALWAYS IN JANUARY. AND THEN THE STATE PUTS ON ONE IN AUGUST AND IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR TRAINING FOR SCHOOLS OR OR ALL THROUGH THE YEARS. I HAVE TWO OF MY STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT ARE DOING ONLINE TRAINING FOR SARAH, BUT YOU CANNOT DO THE CONFERENCES ONLINE. YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL TO THOSE AND THEY WILL BE TRAVELING TO UTAH IN JULY, AUGUST. SO ONE OUT OF STATE AND MAYBE A COUPLE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, ROUGHLY 2 TO 3. YES. OVER THREE OVER THREE. YEAH. THANK YOU. OH WELL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANOTHER QUESTION BUT A COMMENT. I'VE SAID IT ONCE.

I'VE SAID IT TWICE. OUR PROBLEM IS WHEN WE SEND OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS TO AUSTIN, THAT'S WHEN ALL THIS GARBAGE LIKE THIS COMES UP. AND ALL THEY'LL TELL YOU IS IT SAVES YOU MONEY, IT SAVES YOU MONEY. AND EVERY TIME WE LOOK AT IT, IT COST US MONEY. IT COST US MONEY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. AND I WILL TELL YOU, WE FOUGHT HARD. I KNOW Y'ALL DID. WE FOUGHT REALLY HARD. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ADAM HINOJOSA, JM FIGHTING THESE BILLS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY DIDN'T HEAR US. WE EVEN HAD A ZOOM WITH I WANT TO CALL THEM SHAMSI, BUT THAT'S NOT HIS NAME, SENATOR. SH SHAKIN AND WE THOUGHT HE HEARD US. BUT IT'S JUST AWFUL THAT RURAL COUNTIES OR RURAL TEXAS PERIOD CANNOT FIGHT HARRIS COUNTY, DENTON COUNTY AND BEXAR COUNTY. NOPE. WHATEVER THEY WANT IS WHAT ENDS UP COMING. EVEN HARRIS COUNTY WAS FIGHTING 2753 BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT I MEAN, I THESE BIGGER COUNTIES, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO GET STUFF OUT AND THEM CLOSE UP. NOT ONLY THAT, THEY DON'T WANT US TO TAKE A EARLY VOTING STUFF UNTIL ELECTION NIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID. OF WHAT? OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO IT. FROM THE CLOSE OF EARLY VOTING TO ELECTION DAY, IT GOES IN OUR VAULT AND IT'S NEVER TOUCHED.

IT'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SORRY, THIS IS MY BELIEF. BUT YOU APPOINTED ME TO DO A JOB JUST LIKE I ELECTED YOU TO DO A JOB. I TRUST YOU 100% WHEN I VOTE FOR YOU TO DO A JOB. WHEN YOU APPOINT ME AS MY AS AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR, YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN ME TO BE 100% TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYTHING. AND I THINK OUR POLITICIANS IN AUSTIN HAVE LOST FOCUS OF THAT. DEFINITELY. WELL, THANK YOU, PAM, FOR ALL THE GOOD NEWS. NOT MUCH OF IT. NOT MUCH OF IT. RIGHT, EXACTLY. THANK Y'ALL. GOOD. OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY CLOSE TO BEING ON SCHEDULE FOR OUR 10:00. I SEE MOTION AND RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. MOTION IN A SECOND OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET RECONVENE. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET HERE. PROBABLY GET BACK ON SCHEDULE 10:00. SUPPOSED TO BE JUDGE KAREN. AND SHE IS HERE AND READY TO ROLL. IS THAT GOOD? OKAY. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. HOW ARE Y'ALL TODAY? WELL, I'M GLAD I DIDN'T GET THE DISTINCTION OF HAVING TO

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SO YOU CAN SEE AND MOST OF YOU KNOW, EXCEPT MAYBE THE TWO NEW ONES FROM THIS YEAR, HOW INUNDATED OUR OFFICE WAS WITH THE HARBOR BRIDGE PROJECT. RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE HAD 19,000 TICKETS FILED SINCE APRIL OF 2023. WE'VE BEEN DOING AS BEST AS WE COULD, I THINK, COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR GIVING ME ADDITIONAL STAFF BECAUSE WE WERE SO OVERWHELMED. AND NOW I THINK EVERYBODY CAN AT LEAST BREATHE. WE ARE STILL VERY OVERWHELMED AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO BECAUSE OF JUST KEEPING UP WITH THE DAILY TICKETS AND PEOPLE COMING IN AND PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS. OUR CIVIL WORK HAS NOT GONE DOWN EITHER. WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK. THIS IS JUST THROUGH MAY OF THIS YEAR FOR THE 2025 FIGURES. SO WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK. WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 700 TICKETS A MONTH AND 60 TO 65 CIVIL FILINGS A MONTH. SO THAT'S A LOT OF CASES. AND THAT'S JUST NEW CASES FILED THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE PEOPLE COMING IN TO PAY OR EMAILS OR CIVIL CASES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S OUR LOAD AT OUR OFFICE AT THIS TIME. HOPEFULLY THAT JUSTIFIES ALL THE EMPLOYEES I HAVE WITH THE WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE, AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE AND IT'S GOING TO GET MORE BECAUSE NOW I HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO START SENDING OUT FAILURE TO APPEAR LETTERS, AND WE HAVE PROBABLY 15,000 THAT WE NEED TO SEND LETTERS OUT ON. AND THE SHOW CAUSE HEARINGS FOR PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THEIR COURT ORDERS FOR WHATEVER REASON. SO THE SECOND PAGE IS THE REVENUE THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN. THESE NUMBERS WERE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THIS IS THIS IS THIS WEEK'S REPORT TO THE TREASURER. THIS IS $17,000 RIGHT HERE. THIS IS ONE WEEK REPORT THAT GOES TO THE AUDITOR. THESE ARE ALL CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS AND PAYMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO THE COURT. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR MONTHLY TOTALS ARE AND THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE'RE TAKING IN AND PROCESSING THROUGH OUR COURT. SO ON TO THE BUDGET. THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR ME IS GOING TO BE MY CLERKS AND THEIR CLASSIFICATIONS. CAN WE GO BACK TO. YES, SIR. TOTAL DATE? HOW MUCH IS THAT COMES TO THE COUNTY AND HOW MUCH OF THAT GOES BACK TO THE STATE. SO LET'S SEE. THIS WEEK'S REPORT WAS 17,000. TOTAL OF THAT 9000 WENT TO THE COUNTY. SO KIND OF 5050. BUT NO CIVIL CASES DON'T BRING AS MUCH. AND SO YOU CAN COUNT ON ABOUT 5050 FOR MONIES THAT COME TO THE COUNTY. YOU JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. YES, SIR. OH YEAH. THAT'S TOTAL AMOUNT. THE COUNTY'S GETTING IT ALL. WE'RE NOT. NO NO NO NO NO NO THAT'S DEFINITELY TOTAL AMOUNT. BUT THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS AMOUNT TOTALS. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT I WENT BY. BUT YEAH THE STATE DOES HAVE TO GET ITS PART DOESN'T IT. I MEAN EVERYBODY DOES. EVERYBODY WANTS A PIECE OF THE PIE THERE. RIGHT. I'LL WATCH IT. SO FIRST WOULD BE I HAVE A RECLASSIFICATION FOR SOME OF MY EMPLOYEES. THE FIRST WOULD BE WHAT WAS MY COURT COORDINATOR, ALLA ELIZONDO. SHE'S BEEN WITH ME FOR 12 YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HER RECLASSIFIED AS MY COURT ADMINISTRATOR NOW THAT I THERE'S EIGHT OF US. SHE IS OVER THE WHOLE OFFICE. OKAY, SO SHE'S THE NUMBER ONE GIRL IN CHARGE, RIGHT? SO ALL EMPLOYEES ANSWER TO HER. SHE DELEGATES ASSIGNMENTS AND WORKLOADS AND OVERSEES ALL WORK AND EMPLOYEES.

AND SHE ALSO IS THE SUPERVISOR OVER OUR CIVIL DEPARTMENT. WE NOW HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS. ONE IS TRAFFIC AND CRIMINAL. ONE IS CIVIL. WE HAVE TO. THERE'S NO WAY NOT TO DO THAT. NOW. SHE HAS BEEN COURT COORDINATOR. THIS WILL BE HER THIRD YEAR. BUT FOR SOME REASON WHEN SHE STARTED AS COURT COORDINATOR, HER SALARY WAS WAY BELOW OTHER COURT COORDINATORS IN THE COUNTY. SO I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR AND EQUITABLE. SHE IS MANAGING MORE EMPLOYEES THAN ANY OTHER JP OFFICE HERE, AND SHE'S MAKING ABOUT $8,000 LESS A YEAR THAN THAN OTHER COURT COORDINATORS ARE COMPARED TO. WELL, JP FIVE HAS ONE CINDY AND I'M NOT. PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT I'M SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE WORK THEY DO OR WHAT THEIR SALARIES ARE, BECAUSE THEY DEFINITELY DESERVE EVERY PENNY THEY GET. I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN

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SHE NOW HAS 14 YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT SETS HER APART. ALSO, SHE IS LISTED AS A CLERK ONE GRADE 103, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYBODY COMES IN BEGINNING AT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HER RECLASSIFIED AS A CLERK. THREE GRADE 105. AND WHEN SHE CAME TO ME IN 2022, THAT WAS BEFORE THE STEP PROGRAM WAS IN. SO I THINK SOMEHOW SHE WAS ABLE SHE CARRIED HER SALARY OR SOMETHING FROM WHAT SHE WAS MAKING IN DISTRICT CLERK AT THAT TIME. SO THAT'S WHY HER SALARY IS HIGHER, BECAUSE THE PROGRAM, THE STEP OR WHATEVER IT IS HADN'T COME IN YET. SO THAT'S WHY HER SALARY STARTED OUT AS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE HER RECLASSIFIED AND ADD THE 4.15 TO GO UP ANOTHER GRADE AS A CLERK. THREE CRYSTAL STARTED WITH ME LAST YEAR. SHE'S BEEN WITH ME A YEAR. SHE HAS FAR EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS. OUR OFFICE IS SO FAST AND FURIOUS NOW. HER WORK ETHIC AND PERFORMANCE ARE JUST OUT OF THIS WORLD. SHE'S ALREADY TRAINING SOME OF THE NEW THE TWO NEW ONES THAT CAME IN, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE HER RECLASSIFIED AS A CLERK TO GRADE 104, ONE STEP UP AT AT THAT SALARY. STEPHANIE MOORE CAME TO ME IN JANUARY. SHE HAD A YEAR AND A HALF WITH JP, AND ROCKPORT WAS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BY THAT JP TO COME TO US. SO SHE ALREADY KNOWS THE ODYSSEY SYSTEM. SHE KNOWS OUR CIVIL CASE FILINGS, SHE KNOWS OUR TRAFFIC CASE FILINGS. SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING. SHE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE HER GO UP TO A CLERK TO AS A AS A GRADE 104 STEP ONE BRITTANY JUST CAME TO ME IN JANUARY. SHE IS A CLERK, ONE GRADE 103. I WOULD LEAVE HER AT THAT GRADE BUT MOVE HER TO A STEP TWO BECAUSE SHE'LL HAVE 12 MONTHS ALREADY BY THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. SO JUST MOVE HER TO STEP TWO FROM STEP ONE. AND CATHY BROWN JUST STARTED WITH ME. SHE IS MY PART TIME REGULAR. SHE DOES 29 HOURS A WEEK, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR HER TO GET WHATEVER COLA RAISE. Y'ALL. Y'ALL GIVE ALL EMPLOYEES. PLEASE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

YES, SIR OKAY. OH DID HE SAY NO. NO. OH I'M SORRY OKAY OKAY. SO THEN. THAT'S THE EMPLOYEE PART.

SO THEN ON THE OTHER PART FOR CONFERENCE, I WROTE A LITTLE THING ON THE BOTTOM OF EACH ONE OF THESE. SO 312 JUST ADDING FOR EMPLOYEES CONFERENCE REGISTRATION AND THEIR JPCA DUES ON THAT UP THAT BY 500 TELEPHONE WENT UP. AND MY MIFI SQUARE FOR MY LAPTOP IS NOW IN ON TELEPHONE. SO THAT AMOUNT WENT UP A LITTLE BIT. 538 OH POSTAGE OKAY. SO POSTAGE. I JUST GOT A CHECK IN APRIL FOR 1000 STAMPS. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH 700 IN 4 WEEKS. WE'RE NOW SENDING OUT ALL THE FAILURE TO APPEAR LETTERS. I AS I STATED, WE HAVE ABOUT 15,000 LETTERS THAT THAT WE MUST SEND. WE HAVE TO SEND THESE LETTERS. THEY'RE REQUIRED BY LAW. AND OUR SHOW CAUSE LETTERS. SO POSTAGE IS JUST GOING TO BE ASTRONOMICAL IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WITH ALL THE

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THE AMOUNT OF TONER THAT WE'RE USING, EVERY CASE THAT COMES IN. SO EVERY ONE OF THESE RECEIPTS GENERATES FOUR RECEIPTS, TWO FOR THE CUSTOMER AND TWO FOR THE OFFICE. AND SO OUR OUR PRINTING CHARGES ARE JUST TONER CHARGES ARE JUST ASTRONOMICAL WITH, WITH THE COST OF THAT ALONG WITH THIS FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, I'M REALLY PRAYING THAT THIS TAX OFFICE MOVING TO THE BUILDING THAT Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED IS GOING TO COME TO FRUITION SOON, I HOPE, AND WE CAN TAKE OVER THAT OTHER OFFICE. SO I DID ALLOW A LITTLE BIT UNDER FURNITURE. I USUALLY TAKE EVERYTHING I CAN FROM THE WAREHOUSE, BUT I'M GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL SHELVING. WE NEED FILING CABINETS LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE. I HAVE 48 BOXES RIGHT NOW AT MY OFFICE READY TO COME TO THE WAREHOUSE, SO JUST GENERAL GENERAL SUPPLIES AND COST OF THINGS GOING UP. SO THAT'S IT. I'VE GOT A QUESTION AND BASICALLY TWO NORMAN AUDITORS, AND WE HAD OUR OWN PRINT SHOP FOR A LONG TIME. AND I KNOW WE LOST YOU AND THE PRINT SHOP SHUT DOWN. AND THEN WE'RE GOING OUT FOR PRINTING. HOW MUCH IS OUR COST GOING UP AS FAR AS IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW, JUST FOR PRINTING COUNTYWIDE, HAVING THAT PRINTER ON BOARD WAS I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ECONOMICAL WAY OF DOING IT. WE'VE DONE IT FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, 40, 50, 60 YEARS I KNEW. THE GAL THAT WAS THAT LADY WAS THERE BEFORE HUGH CAME IN HER NAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M SURE MOST OF US REMEMBER HER GETTING OUR PAPER DELIVERED AND SO FORTH WAS THE SAVINGS BECAUSE WE WERE BUYING IN BULK. BUT GETTING OUR BUSINESS CARDS DONE AND ALL THE COUNTY LETTERHEAD AND SO FORTH.

THAT WAS JUST A FANTASTIC THING. AND HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB, AND I HOPE HE'S RESTING WELL IN HEAVEN. BUT I MEAN, IS THAT A QUESTION? YOU KNOW, ARE WE REALLY SAVING MONEY BY GOING OUT AND DOING THIS IN, IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY? I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS GOING TO BE COST EFFECTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU WERE GETTING RID OF A PERSONNEL COST. WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER ANALYSIS. IS YOUR MICROPHONE. YEAH IT IS. IT'S MY VOICE. I'M SORRY. INITIALLY WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS COST EFFECTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT JUST THE OVERHEAD FOR THE PRINTING, IN OTHER WORDS, PERSONNEL COST. WE CAN RUN ANOTHER ANALYSIS AND LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE'RE. WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ANALYSIS DONE, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE YOU KNOW, IF THEY DELIVERING I KNOW THEY DO SOME DELIVERING AND SO FORTH. BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE AND PICK STUFF UP IF WE NEED IT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE. THAT'S A TRIP TO ROCKPORT AND BACK.

THAT'S A LONG WAYS, RIGHT. BUT WE'RE NOT CONFINED TO USING UP WHERE YOU CAN FIND ANY PRINTER.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE MOST OF THE OTHER ONES ARE GOING TO BE IN CORPUS. SO THAT'S EVEN FARTHER.

SO AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT BEING ADDED TO THE COST OF NOT HAVING A PRINT SHOP, THAT MILEAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE RUNNING DOWN WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR VEHICLES, PERSONNEL, MANPOWER, COST, YOU'RE JUST GOING DOWN TO GET ALL THIS STUFF WHEN YOU ADD THIS STUFF UP. I'M NOT JUST TALKING RIGHT PRINTING. I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING INCLUDED. HAVING THAT PRINT SHOP AVAILABLE RIGHT HERE, THAT COST RIGHT NOW. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT. WE CAN LOOK AT IT BEFORE THE BUDGET CYCLE ENDS. BESIDES THE CONVENIENCE OF IT, IT'S REALLY CONVENIENT. YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND I USE ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT DOES MY THAT THAT DOES MY DOCKET ENVELOPES, AND HE'S A LITTLE CHEAPER THAN ROCKPORT PRINTING. HE IS OUT OF TOWN, BUT HE DELIVERS TO ME. HE DOES MY CITY COURT ALSO. SO BUT I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT HIS PRICE IS FOR THE ENVELOPES, TOO. I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPARE WHAT WE HAD USE A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW. SO WE DO A LOT OF PRINTING. LUCKILY, HUGH HAD US STACKED, SO RIGHT AFTER HE PASSED, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ALL THAT WITH US. WELL, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S WORN OUT RIGHT NOW. AND LIKE I SAID, WITH WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE IN

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OKAY. THANK YOU JUDGE. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS. LISA. IT'S GOOD. I MEAN, WE'RE THINKING HOW TO SAVE MONEY AND I DON'T SEE US SAVING MONEY TO. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? FIRST, I'D LIKE TO START WITH TELLING YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MISSION OF WICK.

IT'S IT HAS TO DO WITH ASSURING HEALTHY PREGNANCIES, BIRTH OUTCOMES, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT FOR MOTHERS, BABIES AND YOUNG CHILDREN TO AGE FIVE WHO ARE AT NUTRITIONAL RISK, PROVIDING NUTRITIOUS SUPPLEMENTAL FOODS, BREASTFEEDING PROMOTION AND SUPPORT, EDUCATION ON HEALTHY EATING AND REFERRALS TO HEALTH CARE AND CRITICAL SOCIAL SERVICES. SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, WHICH SERVES OVER 3300 PARTICIPANTS A MONTH. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE NEW ONES. THAT WAKE IS A 100% REIMBURSABLE PROGRAM, AND AS OF THIS PAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED A GRANT AND A $1.7 MILLION. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM IN OUR COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. WE GO INTO THE BUDGET. IT'S A LITTLE BITTY DECREASE IN THE REGULAR EMPLOYEES. I'VE ADDED TWO TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THAT I HAVE NOW THAT ARE WORKING FOR ME. I'M ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF 7200 FOR PHONE ALLOWANCE FOR ALL MY STAFF. I RECEIVED $21,600 FOR IT SERVICES AND PHONE SERVICES, AND THAT WILL COVER THE AMOUNT NEEDED TO FOR THE CELL PHONES. MY STAFF, WE ARE ACTUALLY ARE AN ONLINE PROGRAM AND WE ISSUE BENEFITS FROM ANYWHERE MY STAFF ARE AT. AND THEY TEND THEY USE THEIR PHONES QUITE A BIT. THE GROUP INSURANCE INCREASED, AS I'M SURE MOST EVERYONE HAS, BECAUSE THE INSURANCE HAS INCREASED TO 12,000 PER EMPLOYEE. UTILITIES HAVE INCREASED, SO I'M ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THERE. ALSO, THE INSURANCE BOND PREMIUMS HAVE INCREASED. I'M ALSO ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR TRAVEL. WE, THE STAFF AND I ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND TRAININGS AND TO MEET STATE STANDARDS. AND I SERVE ON THE TALLWOOD BOARD AND SEVERAL COMMITTEES. WE HAVE OVER 60 SNAP-ED AND OUTREACH PROGRAMS THAT WE ATTENDED IN ONE YEAR. I AM ALSO REQUESTING A STATE SURVEY WAS JUST SENT OUT THIS PAST WEEK FOR VEHICLES TO BE. IF MY AGENCY WOULD LIKE TO, VEHICLES TO BE PURCHASED FOR US AND GIVEN TO SAN PATRICIO COUNTY, WHICH I HAVE APPLIED FOR THEM. AND IF THEY DO, THE PROCESS COMES THROUGH, I WILL BE GETTING A HOPEFULLY A 2025 FORD EXPEDITION AND A TRUCK FOR TO MOVE STUFF, FURNITURE, WHATEVER ELSE WE NEED. YOU KNOW THAT WE WHEN WE TRAVEL. MY OFFICES ARE FROM ONE SIDE OF THE COUNTY, FROM ARANSAS PASS ALL THE WAY TO MATHIS. AND WE DO A LOT OF SNAP-ED PROGRAMS, WHICH IS THE SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION EDUCATION, AND WE DO FOOD DEMONSTRATIONS, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM AND DELIVER THEM ON A DAILY BASIS AND PURCHASE THE FOOD IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, SERVED SAFELY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND PAGE, I'M ASKING, I HAVE TWO VACANT POSITIONS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN GRAY. THOSE ARE NOT FILLED AT THIS TIME, BUT I'M MAY NEED TO FILL THEM SOON. BUT I'M ASKING FOR ONE OF MY CLERK PEER COUNSELOR POSITIONS TO BE TO MOVE TO AN OUTREACH COORDINATOR TO A STEP 105 WITH A 4.15 INCREASE. AND I'M ASKING FOR THE OFFICE COORDINATOR PEER COUNSELOR TO BE MOVED TO AN OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR PC COORDINATOR TO A STEP 108. AND ON THOSE POSITIONS THAT I'M WANTING TO GET AN INCREASE OR CHANGE THEIR JOB TITLES. I DO HAVE EVALUATIONS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND I HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AVAILABLE IF THEY'RE NEEDED. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MY QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE DIRECTOR OF NUTRITION EDUCATION. NOW YOU CONTRACT THAT OUT. NO, I'M THE NUTRITIONIST.

YES, SIR. WHAT I SEE IN THE BILLS THAT WERE SOME SOME COMPANY OUT OF BAY CITY. WELL, SHE'S A REGISTERED DIETITIAN. THAT IS WE ARE. YES. A REGISTERED DIETITIAN IS A REQUIREMENT. EACH AGENCY HAS TO HAVE A CONTRACT DIETITIAN OR A FULL TIME DIETITIAN. OKAY. WHAT DO WE SPEND ON THEM FOR A YEAR SHE'S PAID $50 AN HOUR. SHE DOES ABOUT 25 HOURS A MONTH, AND WE RECEIVE $37,000 IN FUNDING FOR HER SPECIFIC POSITION. WHAT I'M SAYING WE CAN'T HAVE ONE ON STAFF. IT WOULD COST QUITE A BIT MORE IF WE HAD A REGISTERED DIETITIAN. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T

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WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A SPRING FLING AND A FALL FESTIVAL, AND WE'LL HAVE THE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE KIDS COME IN AND WE DO THE TRANSPLANTS FROM WHEN WE PLANT, THE KIDS COME IN AND THEY PLANT THEM, AND THEN THEY GROW INTO IN THE, IN THE GREENHOUSE, A LITTLE SMALL GREENHOUSE THAT WE PURCHASED. AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND WE HAVE CLASSES THAT THEY COME AND THEY DO THIS WHERE THEY'RE SCHEDULED. AND THAT'S WHEN WE UTILIZE THAT FUNDING FOR THOSE PURPOSES. AND THERE'S A PORTION OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT IT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL START HAVING SPRING AND FALL FESTIVALS THERE. I DON'T RECOMMEND GARDENING BOOTS OUT IN THIS HEAT, I'LL TELL YOU THAT. I TRIED THAT ONE TIME. IT'S MY IT'S MUDDY. YEAH. THE GIRLS, WHEN YOU'RE WEARING RUBBER BOOTS OUT IN THIS HEAT OUT HERE, IT WILL COOK YOUR FEET. YEAH, WELL, SHOES WORK MUCH. I CAN'T HAVE THEM USING THE REGULAR DRESSY SHOES. I APOLOGIZE, YOU KNOW, MY PLANTS ARE NOW SIX FEET HIGH. YEAH, MY BANANA PEPPERS AND CHILI BEANS ARE COMING IN REAL GOOD. AND I'M. I'M TOTALLY. YOU KNOW, I WAS A FARMER AT ONE TIME, AND I KIND OF ENJOYED IT. SO LEARNING ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING, I THINK WOULD BEHOOVE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BILLS ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I WOULD EXPECT OUT OF EXTENSION I'M SEEING OVER HERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST CLUE US IN, LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WE NEED WE NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. CAN I CAN YOU BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED ON HOW WE GOT SUCH A BIG INCREASE ON FROM 15 TO 25,000 ON THE TRAVEL. WELL, THE COST OF INCREASE TO TRAVEL TO BEGIN WITH. AND THEN IF WE GET WE DO RECEIVE THE VEHICLES THAT WILL GO BACK. WE WON'T UTILIZE THAT AS MUCH. BUT IF WE DON'T WE HAVE OVER 60 PROGRAMS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO TRAVEL TO THE SITES TO DELIVER. I ACTUALLY SERVE ON I SERVE ON THE TALLWOOD BOARD, I SERVE ON SEVERAL COMMITTEES, AND I TRAVEL QUITE A BIT BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS AND MY STAFF. IT'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR ALL MY STAFF TO ATTEND TRAININGS, THAT WE HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WITH THE STATE, AND IN ORDER TO MEET THE STANDARDS FOR THE PEER COUNSELORS, FOR THE LVNS, FOR THE CERTIFYING AUTHORITIES, WE HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS AND THEY HAVE TO ATTEND THESE TRAININGS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOW MANY CONFERENCES DO YOU GO A YEAR TO DATE? HAVE YOU HAVE YOU BEEN IN HOW MANY MORE YOU GOT PLANNED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR? ACTUALLY PROBABLY ABOUT 4 TO 5 CONFERENCES. I, I ATTEND NATIONAL ASSOCIATION CONFERENCES. I ATTEND THE ANNUAL TALLWOOD CONFERENCE. I HAVE GONE TO SEVERAL OF THE RISK MANAGEMENT CONFERENCES THAT I ENJOY THAT I'VE BENEFITED FROM HERE. THE CONFERENCE THAT I ALSO ATTEND, THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALS THAT WE ALL ATTEND, THAT'S JUST ABOUT IT THAT WE GO TO. CAN YOU GIVE ME A NUMBER ON HOW MANY CONFERENCES? I ACTUALLY HAVE A LIST FOR YOU, SIR, THAT I CAN GIVE TO YOU AFTER. YES. AND HOW MANY OUT OF STATE CONFERENCES DO YOU DO? THE NATIONAL. THERE'S NO LONGER ANY STATE. TEXAS, WHICH USED TO HAVE CONFERENCES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THEY NO LONGER HAVE THEM. AND MY STAFF AND I ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND THIS CONFERENCE. SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO ATTEND AN OUT OF STATE ONE. AND THAT'S WHY YOU DO ONE A YEAR. YOU'D SAY, OH NO, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION HAS A VENDOR MANAGEMENT, AND THEN WE HAVE A NUTRITION EDUCATION ONE. AND THEN THE FENCES I HAVEN'T ATTENDED, I WENT LAST YEAR, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT CONFLICTS WITH THE CONFERENCE THAT I'M COORDINATING, WHICH IS THE FAMILY CONSUMER EDUCATION NUTRITION CONFERENCE. SO THERE'S I HAVE LIKE I SAID, I HAVE A LIST THAT I CAN GIVE YOU. YOU HAVE THAT WITH YOU OR I THINK I DO. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU MELISSA. THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY. 12 I GUESS IS NO OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. Y'ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. WE'RE GOOD OKAY MISS LEAH

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ANY QUESTIONS ON PRETRIAL SERVICES OKAY. THANK YOU JASON. ON THAT. YOU WANT TO GO TO ADULT SIR? YOU WANT TO GO TO ADULT? I JUST COMBINED THEM. OH, YOU COMBINED THEM. OH, OKAY. I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT YOUR ROOF, BUT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. JUDGE KREBS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THINK STATUS QUO FOR FY 25 IS 41,000 AND CHANGE FOR THE ADULT PROBATION OFFICE. I'M ASKING FOR THE SAME AMOUNT NOW AND THEN FOR PRETRIAL SERVICES. OH, SHOOT. DEBORAH JUST TOOK MY COPY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT ONLY OVER YOUR NUMBER. IT ONLY WENT UP 3%. NOT EVEN 3%, ACTUALLY. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. KATHY. YOU'RE UP. THANK YOU. YOU CAN. COME ON.

WE'RE WE'RE SKIPPING. WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING ANY ORDER RIGHT NOW. REAL QUICK. LET'S KEEP GOING. LET'S GET HER DONE. I JUST I JUST GAVE IT TO YOU. THANK YOU. HERE WE GO. HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING THIS MORNING? SORRY. THERE WE GO. I WAS GETTING READY. OH, I LIKE THAT.

LADY'S THERE. KNOCKING THAT OVER. THANK YOU. SO GOOD MORNING. ON BEHALF OF AGRILIFE EXTENSION AND SAN PATRICIO COUNTY. JUST KATHY FARROW HERE. SO I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR BUDGET THIS MORNING. I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, COURT, FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO TO SUPPORT THE AGRILIFE EXTENSION. IT SUPPORTS OUR MISSION, WHICH IS HELPING TEXANS LIVE BETTER WITH THEIR LIVES. AND WE LIKE TO DO THAT HERE IN SAN PATRICIO COUNTY WITH THE ADULT PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH OUR FARMERS, WE WORK WITH OUR YOUTH, AND WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR CHRONIC DISEASE FOLKS AS FAR AS HEALTH AND WELLNESS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FROM THEIR CURRENT BUDGET. I GUESS THAT'S GOOD NEWS. SO EVERYTHING IS BASICALLY I CALLED IT A FLAT BUDGET. AS WE'RE GOING INTO THIS, WE WOULD LIKE THE SAME BUDGET WE HAVE THIS CURRENT YEAR. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK OVER AT SALARIES, OUR ONLY REQUEST IS THAT IF THERE IS A COST OF LIVING INCREASE THIS YEAR, THAT WE BE INCLUDED IN THAT AS A TOTAL STAFF. AND THE NEXT PAGE IS OUR VEHICLES. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN GREAT SHAPE WITH OUR FIVE YEAR VEHICLE PLAN, SO WE HAVE NO REQUESTS THERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? WILL OUR SALARY SURVEY BE DONE BEFORE THE 2026 BUDGET KICKS IN? HOPEFULLY WE ARE. WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT, IF ANYTHING, THE BASELINE AS TO WHAT THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE MARKET VALUE WISE, WE'RE GOING TO BASE IT ON THAT AND THEN WORK FORWARD AFTER THAT. SO WHAT'S OUR TIME FRAME? I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING BASICALLY BEFORE THE END OF THE BUDGET AS FAR AS FINDING THE BASELINE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON TRYING TO ADJUST EVERYBODY IF THERE'S ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. IS THAT A GOOD THING. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. NO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU KATHY. YES OKAY. NOW LET ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL PASS. IF I CAN GET MY FINGERS TO WORK. MAKE A LITTLE NOISE. WHERE'S THAT? OH, IT SAYS JUDGE LINDA GUERRERO, JUSTICE, PEACE PRECINCT ONE SURPLUS. MAY BE OLD, BUT IT STILL WORKS. GOOD MORNING. WE ARE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE THIS YEAR. WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FOR TWO ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES. THEY ARE EMPLOYED RIGHT NOW. WE GOT THEM IN UNDER THE FMAC. BUT THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR THIS DEPARTMENT. AS WE STARTED UP, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS AND PUSHING THIS THIS THROUGH. NOBODY LOVES ACRONYMS MORE THAN I DO. I CAN GIVE YOU A WHOLE LIST OF THEM, BUT IF YOU SAY WHAT FFMPEG IS FOR THE FOR THE AUDIENCE, THAT IS A NICE SETTING. FIRES WE HAD FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT. IT'S ACTUALLY DUE TODAY. WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO RECEIVE A GOOD PORTION OF THAT FOR THE COUNTY ON THAT WE DO WORK WITH A LOT, AND THERE WILL STILL BE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR MANAGEMENT FUNDS AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP FUND THE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT IS A GOAL

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THERE'S GOING TO BE VEHICLE COSTS IN THERE AS WELL. AND THEN THERE WAS TWO TWO REQUESTS FOR INCREASES. ONE IS GOING TO BE ON THE GRANT COORDINATOR POSITION. SHE HAS BEEN HERE THREE YEARS.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN A REQUEST OR INCREASED SALARY. ADDITIONAL DUTIES WERE ADDED. BUT THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY INCREASE REQUESTS. AND THEN ONE IS ON MY POSITION AS WELL, WHICH HAS BEEN OVER THREE YEARS AND THERE HAS BEEN NO REQUEST ON MY SALARY. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS. CAN YOU TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR YOUR TRAVEL EXPENSE AND WHY IT DOUBLED? BECAUSE I AM REQUESTING NEW EMPLOYEES, TWO NEW EMPLOYEES, SO IT WOULD INCREASE THE TRAVEL EXPENSES BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO TRAIN THEM UP IN ALL PROGRAMS AS WELL, AND HAVE THEM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND TRAIN ALONG WITH US IN DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. THAT IS WHY. HOW MANY CONFERENCES DO YOU DO A YEAR? CURRENTLY I HAVE ATTENDED ONE LOCAL CONFERENCE THIS YEAR. I'VE DONE ABOUT TWO CONFERENCES THIS YEAR. THE PREVIOUS YEAR I BELIEVE I DID THREE CONFERENCES. ABOUT THREE? ABOUT THREE, YES.

THANK YOU, MISS COOPER. GREAT JOB. YOU ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND WE WORK CLOSELY ON THESE GRANT THINGS. IT JUST SCARES ME SOMETIMES WHEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE WORKING ON WITH GRANTS RIGHT NOW, IT IS IT IS A LARGE AMOUNT. AND, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE FUTURE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO, WHAT, 35 MILLION JUST DRAINAGE. AND THE MORE STAFF WE BRING IN, THE MORE WE CAN ASSIST TO BRING MORE FUNDS IN. SO WE DO WORK FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT HERE. YES, SIR.

SO HE ADDED 8000 FOR VEHICLE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. HOW MANY VEHICLES DO YOU GUYS HAVE? IT'S GOING TO BE ONE. I WAS TRYING TO. I JUST GOT IT. THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR TO HAVE A VEHICLE. I HAVE NOT NOT HAD A COUNTY VEHICLE WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT UTILIZE. SO I MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNFAMILIAR WITH WITH THE ACTUAL COST IS AND MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE BROKE THAT UP INTO TRAVEL FOR MILEAGE. AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT THAT WAS CONSIDERING MILEAGE AND EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT 8000. SO SHE'S TAKEN OVER A POOL CAR. YEAH. AND WE DO A LOT OF TRAVEL.

WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR REIMBURSEMENT ON MILEAGE THE WHOLE YEARS WE'VE BEEN HERE. WE HAVE BEEN EATING THOSE COSTS. BUT IT BUT WE COULD ASK FOR THAT AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A COST ON OUR DEPARTMENT. SO PREVIOUSLY YOU WERE USING YOUR OWN VEHICLES. YES. THAT WAS MY VEHICLE AND THEIR OWN MONEY AND MY OWN MONEY. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MADELEINE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS COOPER. OKAY. NEXT. PATRICK. Y'ALL ARE. OH, YOU WANT TO GO? GO AHEAD. FAIRGROUNDS. GO AHEAD. I'LL BE HERE ALL DAY. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL. I AM SUBMITTING BUDGET REVIEW FOR 2026, AND I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO CHANGE. I'D LIKE TO ADD A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE STARTING AT 106, FOR A TOTAL OF 39,511, BECAUSE THERE'S PLENTY TO DO AT THE FAIRGROUNDS ALL THE

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ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTION. THANK YOU. NO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. FOR ME. OH, YEAH. IS THERE SOMEONE THAT IS USUALLY TRADITIONALLY VERY BAD AT DOING THIS? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW THAT. MR. KIPE, YOU CAN'T FOLLOW YOURSELF. OKAY? YOU GOT TO GO FIRST. STEVE. STEVE. YOU WANT. HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THIS, MR. KIPE? YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED DOING THIS, I WAS I WAS REALLY NERVOUS BECAUSE I THINK I WAS LIKE 28 YEARS OLD, AND NOW I'M LIKE 31 AND BUT AT THAT TIME, AT THAT TIME, I WAS LYING TO US RIGHT OFF THE BAT. AT THAT TIME, I WAS YOUNGER THAN ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE. AND IT FEELS REALLY STRANGE COMING BACK, BEING OLDER THAN ALL THE, COMMISSIONERS IN THE COUNTY. DOES. YOU DO? NO, THANK YOU. MR. I LIKE THAT. THAT'S. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU SIR. OH I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHERE YOU MARK AGAINST ME. WHERE'S YOUR PONYTAIL? I, I'M TERRIBLE AT NUMBERS, BUT I THIS IS MY CHANCE EVERY YEAR TO TELL YOU WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING AT STORY TIME AND ALL THE LIBRARY PROGRAMS. I'VE BEEN DOING 50 PROGRAMS A WEEK EVERY WEEK SINCE I SAW YOU LAST. WE SAW 75,762 KIDS LAST YEAR AT SUMMER READING PROGRAM. I HAD 93 KIDS AND ARANSAS PASS LIBRARY, 30 KIDS. AT POLK ELEMENTARY, 27 KIDS IN MATHIS, 28 AND TAFT 100 AT TAFT SUMMER SCHOOL, 63 AT ODOM PORTLAND. WE HAD 57 AT 9:00 AND 10:00 HAD 146. I HAD 30 KIDS AT THE EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER INGLESIDE. WE HAD 56 KIDS ON THURSDAY AT 330 AND 830. FRIDAY MORNING WE HAD 16. AND IN SINTON WE HAD 63 KIDS IN THE LIBRARY.

AND THIS MORNING, RIGHT BEFORE I CAME HERE, I WAS AT SINTON ELEMENTARY. AND THAT'S WHY I'M LATE. AND I HOPE IT DIDN'T MESS YOUR SCHEDULE UP. NO, NOT AT ALL. I EVERY YEAR I TRY TO KEEP THE BUDGET JUST ABOUT THE SAME OR A LITTLE BIT LESS. IT'S NEVER WORKED. I'VE NEVER DONE THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MORE. BUT THIS THIS YEAR I WAS REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE I LOOKED AT OUR BUDGET FOR 2024 AND IT WAS IT WAS LIKE $40,000 MORE THAN WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THIS YEAR. AND I WAS REALLY EXCITED. BUT ON MY WAY OVER, I REALIZED, OH, IT'S BECAUSE WE GOT THE NEW VAN THAT YEAR. AND SO I'VE JUST CONTINUALLY INCREASED MY BUDGET LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE EVERY YEAR.

MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO BE EFFICIENT, THOUGH, TO DO A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND NOT SPEND MUCH MONEY. AND THAT'S STILL KIND OF THE GOAL. AND MY BUDGET, THERE'S WE'VE HAD TO CHANGE THE PRINTING AROUND. WE DO THE PRINTING IN OUR OFFICE. SO WE'VE HAD WE'RE BUDGETED FOR A NEW PRINTER AND NEW INKS, INK FOR THE PRINTER. SINCE MY SECRETARY USUALLY WATCHES THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETINGS WHILE FROM HER OFFICE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SHE PROBABLY NEEDS A LOT MORE MONEY BECAUSE I'M NEVER IN THE OFFICE AND SHE HAS TO RUN EVERYTHING BY HERSELF. YOU SAW THAT, TIFFANY? YEAH. AND I GUESS THAT'S REALLY IT. MY ONLY QUESTION ARE, ARE YOU STILL ENJOYING IT? I REALLY DO ENJOY IT. AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE I'M LUCKY. AND EVERY YEAR I PRESENT A BUDGET. I THINK AT

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WELL, FROM OUR KIDS, OUR GRANDKIDS, GREAT GRANDKIDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE SAY THANK YOU. DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IN INGLESIDE THIS YEAR? A LITTLE BOY WAS NERVOUS ABOUT GOING INTO STORYTIME, AND HIS MOTHER SAID, DON'T BE SCARED OF MR. KIPPY. YOUR GRANDPA USED TO SEE HIM WHEN HE WAS LITTLE AND HE WASN'T SCARED. IT JUST GO THAT. NO, I REALLY AM BLESSED AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOU ALL DO TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. AND IF THIS IS THE LAST BUDGET I PRESENT, I WOULD STILL BE HAPPY THAT YOU SUPPORTED IT FOR SO MANY YEARS. AND OUR LITERACY COORDINATOR WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING TOO. BUT BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING, IT GETS ME IN BIG TROUBLE. WELL, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE PODIUM THERE, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR DRAWINGS. I GUESS THIS WOULD BE. CAN YOU MAKE US LOOK A LITTLE HAPPIER? WELL, THAT THAT WAS THE IDEA I WANTED TO LOOK AT. MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WERE STERN PROTECTORS OF THE COUNTY BUDGET AND THE SAFE. AND YOU'RE ALWAYS REALLY NICE. BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO IT. I DIDN'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A POSTER. WHERE YOU'RE THERE, LIKE THROWING MONEY OUT TO EVERYBODY. AND. YEAH, WELL, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE DOING WELL. MY GRANDDAUGHTER. BEEN TO YOUR BOOK READING AND STUFF AND REALLY ENJOY WHAT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND KEEP UP ALL THE HARD WORK. YOU, YOU KNOW, IN ONE YEAR, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, HIS DAUGHTER, HIS GRANDDAUGHTER HAD GONE TO THE STORYTIME FOREVER. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE HIS GRANDDAUGHTERS. THEY DIDN'T KNOW I HAD ANY CONNECTION. BUT ONE WEDNESDAY THEY CAME INTO STORYTIME AND SAID, MY GRANDPA SAYS HE'S GOING TO FIRE YOU.

LIKE WHAT? WHAT? WHO'S YOUR GRANDPA? AND SHE GOES, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, HE'S GOING TO FIRE YOU. AND FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, ANYTIME THEY WANTED TO BE PICKED FOR SOMETHING OR ME TO REACH, THEY'D SAY, REMEMBER MY GRANDPA, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? OH, NO.

DO ANY OF YOU HAVE GRANDKIDS THAT GO TO STORYTIME RIGHT NOW OR KIDS OR NOT HERE? OKAY, OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD. WELL GOOD MORNING. I DON'T KNOW HOW I FOLLOW THAT, BUT I'M CHRISTINA JOLLY AND I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SAN PATRICIO COUNTY ADULT LITERACY COUNCIL. AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT I'M NEW TO THIS POSITION. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE POSITION SINCE SEPTEMBER. SO LINDA MEDINE WAS OVERSEEING THIS ORGANIZATION AND SHE HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB. AND SO I JUST CAME IN AND JUST TOOK OVER WHERE SHE LEFT OFF. I DO WANT TO JUST POINT OUT THAT IN 2024 THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD SIX PAID TUTORS. WE HAD OVER 2024 HOURS OF TEACHING FOR OUR TEACHERS. WE PROVIDED LITERACY SERVICES FOR ARANSAS PASS. INGLESIDE, PORTLAND. TAFT AND ODOM. AND THEN LAST WEEK, THIS WAS JUST A BIG HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE THIS WAS A VISION OF OUR ORGANIZATION FOR MANY YEARS. WE ACTUALLY CAME TOGETHER AND PROVIDED A GED GRADUATION. AND THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING. IT WAS AMAZING JUST TO SEE THE STUDENTS COME TOGETHER. WE ACTUALLY HAD SIX STUDENTS WHO INVITED THEIR FAMILIES. THE CITY OF GREGORY WAS VERY GRACIOUS AND ALLOWED US TO USE OUR FACILITY FREE OF CHARGE. AND THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED FUNDING FOR THAT EVENT FROM CHENIERE. SO WE'RE SO GRATEFUL. SO OUR BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR FOR 2026 IS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME, WHICH IS THE 25,000 THAT YOU GAVE US THIS PAST YEAR. AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, ATTENDING THE GRADUATION WAS A FANTASTIC THING, SEEING THOSE FIVE STUDENTS OR SIX, SIX, SIX STUDENTS FROM ODOM, FROM FROM TAFT, FROM ARANSAS PASS. YEAH. IT BROUGHT WARM THINGS TO MY HEART. AND ALSO, I WANT TO MENTION THE SHERIFF AND HIS WIFE WAS THERE AND OUR OUR HR DIRECTOR AND WAS FANTASTIC. THE PEOPLE WERE VERY CORDIAL TO US. AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM TO SEE THE LIGHT IN THEIR EYES.

AND AS WE GROW HERE IN THE COUNTY WITH INDUSTRY AND EDUCATION, IS A IS A IS A WONDERFUL THING BECAUSE THEY LEARN SO MUCH, BUT THEY IT'S ALSO A NEED WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THOSE JOBS. AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS, IS FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE IN THE COUNTY. IT'S VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE. THANK YOU LORD. THANK YOU FOR IT. DON'T DON'T DON'T RUN THAT BUDGET TOO TIGHT.

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ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET. WELL. LOOK AT THIS. WE'LL GET YOU A CUP OF COFFEE. THAT'S NICE. JOHN. I'M TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONG. YOU CAN GET A LOTS OF LOTS OF BUILDINGS TAKE CARE OF. SKIPPY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK.

AND.

ON THE SALARY SHEETS, I WENT AHEAD AND JUST DID ONE SHEET FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES, EVEN THOUGH THEY COME AT A DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS. THAT'LL BE THE FIRST ONE. I DIDN'T INCREASE NOTHING BECAUSE WHEN I DID IT, I DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD TO DO IT ON THE ACTUAL SHEET AND I HAD PUT 5% ACROSS. BUT WHATEVER GOES ACROSS, I WOULD LIKE THAT FOR MY EMPLOYEES. I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. SO MR. DORAN, SIR, IS THIS A MISPRINT ON ESCOBAR? YOU WENT FROM 39,511 TO 59,511. YES, SIR. IT IS GLAD YOU CAUGHT THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T. I WAS AT THE LAST MINUTE DOING THIS. JUST MAKING SURE SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST RUNNING THE NUMBERS STRAIGHT ACROSS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED RIGHT THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER GOES ACROSS THE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. OKAY. 580. YOU'LL SEE ON THE BUILDING REPAIRS. WE HAVE THAT LITTLE STORAGE SHOP FOR OUR MOWERS. I'D LIKE TO RECODE THAT AND CHANGE OUT A COUPLE OF PANELS. SO WE PUT 10,000 THERE ON VEHICLE REPAIRS. I WENT UP TO 9000. I KIND OF AVERAGED 1500 PER TRUCK WITH FOUR TRUCKS FOR THAT BUDGET HERE. AND ALSO ON 627 AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIES. I WENT AHEAD AND PUT IN FOR SOME RUNNING BOARDS, TOOLBOXES AND SOME STEPS FOR A COUPLE OF TRUCKS THERE. OKAY, OKAY, THAT'S THE SHOP THERE. COURTHOUSE. I WENT AHEAD AND LEFT EVERYTHING THERE THE SAME. DIDN'T ADD NOTHING. PLYMOUTH BUILDING ALSO. I THINK THERE WAS AN INCREASE ON 434 ON THE EQUIPMENT REPAIRS JUST DUE TO PRICING AND STUFF FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING, BUT IT WAS LIKE 5000. OKAY, THAT'S THE PLYMOUTH. WHAT? YOU GOT IT. LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING. STAYED THE SAME.

THE ARANSAS PASS, THE JP SIX. WE WELL I WAS GOING TO ASK TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A VEHICLE FOR MY CUSTODIAN OVER THERE. HE'S BEEN GOING TO THE WICK, THE INGLESIDE AND THE JP'S OFFICE THERE IN ARANSAS PASS. WELL, THE WICK IN THE JP IN ARANSAS PASS IN INGLESIDE. HE'S BEEN DRIVING AND HE HASN'T DONE MILEAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I WAS ASKING TO SEE IF I CAN GET ONE OF THOSE MOTOR VEHICLES FOR HIM, AND THEN PUT IN SOME VEHICLE REPAIRS AND SOME FUEL OUT THERE FOR HIM, IF POSSIBLE. OKAY. OUT OF THAT. YEAH. AND I ADDED 10,000 FOR THE EQUIPMENT REPAIR FOR SOME AC EQUIPMENT CHANGE OUT. AROUND THIS PAST WEEK. ON 430 I ADDED 20,000. I MEAN 18,000 FOR THAT ROOF, JUST IN CASE THEY DON'T DO THAT PROJECT THAT MELISSA HAD ASKED FOR.

YEAH. SO I WENT AHEAD AND ADDED THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS INCLUDED. AND ALSO THE AIR CONDITIONING PART, I MEAN, IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DO IT WELL, THEN WE CAN GO DOWN ON THAT PRICE FOR THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET DONE. OKAY. 590 MATHIS LET'S SEE, I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHAT TO DO AS FAR AS THAT BUILDING. SO I JUST WENT AHEAD AND PUT ON THE BUILDING

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IT SHOULD BE ZERO. WELL I DON'T HAVE NO EMPLOYEES THERE ON HAVO. BUT YOU HAD ONE ONE AND THEN ZERO ON THAT ON THAT ONE. THAT WAS WHAT CAME ACROSS IN THE BUDGET REQUEST. AND WE JUST WE WERE USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. THEY COULD SEE WHAT NUMBER. SO THAT WAS JUST I MEAN, ALL THAT IS, IS A $1 AMOUNT. SO IT SHOULD JUST BE ZERO. IT WAS ZERO. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. SHOULD JUST BE ZERO. WE WENT FROM ONE FORM TO A DIFFERENT FORM AND IT KIND OF THREW ME OFF. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY. I'M HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS. RESTITUTION CENTER. THOSE ONES SHOULD BE ZERO. ON THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. I WENT AHEAD AND ADDED 7000 TO DO A ASSESSMENT ON THAT KITCHEN AREA. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT WALK IN FREEZER WITH THE CONDENSER ON TOP AND THE WATER HEATER AND STEAM TABLES AND EVERYTHING, AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CONDENSATION. SO I WANTED TO STUDY THAT. MAYBE WE CAN FIX THAT UP SOMEHOW. OKAY. AND IT'S AFFECTING THE AIR CONDITIONING IN THAT KITCHEN. EQUIPMENT REPAIRS. GOT A COUPLE OF AC UNITS THAT I WANT TO TAKE OUT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR THE RESTITUTION. NO PROBATION. NO. NOTHING REALLY CHANGED THERE. EXTENSION. THAT ODPS WHERE WE USE IT AS A SURPLUS AREA. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT IN I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S THAT OLD THE. ISSUES MENTIONED IN THE OTHER HALF THAT WAS THAT WAS THE WORD DPS WAS WAS. YES, SIR. TEXAS RANGERS AND FISH AND GAME AND

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HOW ABOUT MY. MATHIS YARD? THAT'S AWESOME. FOR THESE FIRST. THAT'S ALSO THE COMMISSIONER.

OKAY, THAT WOULD BE ODUM. THE ADMIN ANNEX HERE. PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. EOC, SAME THING, JUST THE UTILITIES. I THINK WE INCREASED THE UTILITIES BECAUSE WE HAD THAT WATER THAT WASN'T BUILT FOR A LONG TIME THAT WE CAME UP AND THREW THAT NUMBER OFF A LITTLE BIT. THEY HADN'T CHARGES FOR LIKE A YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS? OH YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS. WELL LET'S START WITH HOW MANY HOW MANY PEOPLE DO IN CLEANING SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY? HOW MANY? YES. YES, SIR.

I HAVE EIGHT EMPLOYEES. OKAY. AND HOW MANY BUILDINGS DO WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT ARE MINE? YEAH. WELL, NO, NO, JUST BASICALLY HOW MANY BUILDINGS DO WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY? WE HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE CLEANING. HOW MANY BUILDINGS? LET ME COUNT THEM HERE REAL QUICK. COURTHOUSE LIMIT LAW ENFORCEMENT. ARANSAS PASS. HOW MANY IS FOR WITH FIVE? MATTHEW SIX SEVEN. PORTLAND. INGLESIDE EIGHT. ADULT PROBATION NINE. EXTENSION EIGHT. ELECTION 11.

THE ANNEX HERE WOULD BE 12 AND THE EOC WOULD BE 13. OKAY, THOSE ARE THE BUILDINGS YOU DO CLEANING IN. YES, SIR. BUT LIKE THE EXTENSION, ELECTIONS, THOUGH. PROBATION. THERE'S MINIMUM TIME THERE BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I SPEND SWEEPING AND SWABBING MY OWN FLOORS AND MY OWN TRASH. AND I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST THEY HAD SOMEBODY COMING IN TO DO IT.

THEN THERE WAS TAKING ROAD AND BRIDGE PEOPLE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THEY'RE PAID TO DO TO BRING THEM IN, TO DO CLEANING AND THEN FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE HEAT COMING IN THERE. THEY'RE TIRED. RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S A PROBLEM. I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONE ON FOR HOW MANY YEARS? I MEAN, AS AN EMPLOYEE FOR THE COUNTY, WE TOOK CARE OF OUR OWN BUILDING OVER THERE AT PLYMOUTH ANNEX AND SO FORTH, AND THAT TAKES UP HOURS OUT OF THAT.

PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY BE DOING, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M HATING TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE PAYING AN EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW, $50,000 A YEAR, SWEEP AND SWAP FLOORS, IT IS HARD. YOU KNOW, IT JUST IT'S TIME OF THE DAY. IT'S THOSE EXPENSIVE, EXPENSIVE FLOOR CLEANING. IT'S GOTTA GET DONE. I MEAN, THE PUBLIC ARE COMING TO OUR BUILDINGS. I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW OUR BUILDINGS ARE BEING CLEANED. IT'S NOT THAT THE QUALITY, IT'S THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT THERE. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'M SURE PRECINCT THREE IS FINDING THIS OUT TOO, AS HE'S COMING IN NEW ALSO. BUT IT'S

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GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER IS OUT AND ASKED US TO PRESENT FOR HIM. HE PRETTY MUCH HAS LEFT THINGS PRETTY MUCH STATUS QUO. OF COURSE HE WILL ACCEPT WHATEVER.

IF THERE IS A COLA INCREASE. SO THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH CHANGE TO IT. HOWEVER, IN IN DISCUSSING AND SEEING ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, THE JUDGE AND I HAD TALKED EARLIER AND HE'LL BE TALKING WITH CHRIS AND THE AUDITORS FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING SOME HELP FOR CHRISTOPHER'S OFFICE, AND THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT A LITTLE BIT LATER BEFORE THEY FINALIZE THE BUDGET. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY PLACE? ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GET TO YOU. AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY ADDING ANOTHER POSITION IN THAT OFFICE IS BECAUSE THE REQUESTS ARE SO OVERWHELMING WITH THINGS. THERE'S SO MANY MORE CONTRACTS.

OF COURSE, WHENEVER YOU HAVE A COUNTY GROWING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS, ADDITIONAL THINGS. THAT AND IT'S JUST EXTREMELY BIG. AND THEN WE WILL ADDRESS THE ADMIN PART FOR HIM. ALSO IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S BUDGET, I WILL SAY HE DOES A LOT OF WORK FOR ME AND OTHER PRECINCTS OUT THERE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE'S PROBABLY LISTENING IN. GO TO HIS HEAD. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU DAVID.

THANK YOU DAVID. OKAY. NORMA, DO YOU HAVE SUPPOSED TO COME IN? SIR, DO YOU HAVE THE BUDGET? NO, THEY HAVE NOT BROUGHT IT TO ME YET. OKAY. SO THAT'LL JUST LEAVE US FOR THE MORNING VERSION OF PATRICK AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT. THIS MORNING. BUT JOHN'S HERE. OKAY. LET'S GO. JOHN.

SIR, JUST SHARE. THERE YOU GO. TAKE IT OFF. NOW. ALRIGHT. MY BUDGET IS GOING TO

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AND THAT'S BECAUSE NEXT YEAR I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TO THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY ROAD ENGINEERS AND ADMINISTRATORS. SO JUST SARAH, NEXT YEAR THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE IS COMING TO TEXAS. SO BE GREAT FOR AS MANY FOLKS TO ATTEND THAT ONE. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE TRAVEL. ANOTHER REQUEST REQUEST IS FOR A PROMOTION FROM MY ASSISTANT. AND I'VE PUT THE JUSTIFICATION ATTACHED TO IT. I LISTED THERE KIM HAS SOME EXISTING DUTIES THAT SHE'S PERFORMING VERY, VERY WELL. BUT REALLY FOR THE UPCOMING NEXT YEAR, SHE'S GOING TO BE TAKING MORE ADDITIONAL DUTIES, PRIMARILY, AS YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THAT CONTRACT AND IT'S $25 MILLION WORTH OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ABOUT ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 15 MORE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, KIM HAS BEEN ASSISTING WITH THE ARPA PROJECT WITH THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT. AND WE'RE TAKING OVER THE ENGINEERING AND PAYMENTS AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTOR PAYMENTS. BUT WITH THE GLO CONTRACT COMING UP NEXT YEAR WITH THE 15 ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, IT'S REALLY GOING TO DOUBLE OUR WORKLOAD AT THE OFFICE. ALSO, LET ME GET HER MORE INVOLVED WITH THE ASSISTING WITH UTILITY PERMITS AND ALSO WITH THE PLAT REVIEWS. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, I'M PURSUING KIM TO ATTEND ANY ENGINEERING RELATED CONFERENCES THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY HERE LOCALLY. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY REQUEST. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR MYSELF OR FOR KIM? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENT. NO, ONLY WE NEED TO GET OUR BILLS A LITTLE BIT QUICKER TO US THAN 2021 AND 2022. YES, SIR. YES SIR. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOCK, RIGHT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT THAT THAT COMPANY IS SLOW ON BILLING US OR IS IT GOT LOST IN YOUR OFFICE OR. NO. AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME EACH COMMISSIONER WAS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING RIGHT OF WAY INFORMATION MY OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE. I WASN'T HERE BACK THEN. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOUR PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, IT SAYS WHEN I SEE THOSE BILLS COMING IN.

THAT'S FOR JOHN HERNANDEZ REQUEST. OH, ACTUALLY, LET ME CLARIFY THAT THAT THAT'S TRUE.

BUT I WAS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER. THEY REQUESTED THROUGH ME AND I WAS THE BETWEEN TO ASSIST, TO PURSUE IT WITH THEIR LOCAL SERVER KING AND PATRIOTS. SO IN 2021 AND 22, WE DID THE BILLING BACK. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAVE IT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS HERE IN 2025.

I CANNOT YOU KNOW, I CANNOT, YOU KNOW, RESPOND TO THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. BUT IT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. I'M A SO WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, YOU KNOW, 2019, I HAD A SMALL BUDGET FOR, FOR SURVEYING. AND THEN A NEW ADMINISTRATION CAME OVER AND THEY TOOK OVER ALL THAT DIRECTION. AND SO AND NOW FOR YOUR GUYS CONSIDERATION, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THAT ROUTE OR DO YOU PREFER TO MEET KIND OF HANDLE THE RIGHT OF WAY, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION OR THAT IT WON'T IT WON'T BE MUCH, YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN $50,000 FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S AN OPTION WE CAN DO NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW BUDGET AND PROCESS. SO ARE YOU BILLING OUT THERE FOR SERVICES THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY? NO. SO YOU DON'T BILL FOR THAT? NO, SIR. IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD BE BILLING FOR. YES, SIR. SERVICES? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT. I MEAN, IT'S COSTING THE COUNTY MONEY, AND ALL THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THE FEW THAT ARE GETTING THE SERVICES RIGHT, AND THAT AIN'T RIGHT. I MEAN, NORMALLY YOU DON'T LIKE BUILDING PERMITS AND 911. YEAH, WELL, WE DON'T CHARGE FOR ADDRESSING BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THEIR PHONE BILL, BUT FOR, FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND SO FORTH THAT WE DO WE DO CHARGE FOR THOSE THINGS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE AREAS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHARGE FOR THAT BY LAW THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO UTILITY PERMITS LIKE SO WE HAVE ON THE ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW. AND SO IF WE HAVE A PIPE, FOR EXAMPLE, A PIPELINE CROSSING, RIGHT, WE CHARGE $500 PER CROSSING. AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE A ROAD BOND THAT WE HAVE FOR PROJECT. SO ARE WE CHARGING THAT. YES, SIR.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN REVENUE ON THAT ASPECT OF IT. YES, SIR. SO WHAT

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BUT USUALLY THAT THAT COMES FROM THE COMMISSIONER. THEY ASK IF. HEY, JOHN, WE WANT TO DO SOME WORK HERE. I'M GETTING CONCERNED. THEY'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS OR EVEN ON OCCASION TO. AND THIS IS JUST DISTRICT WIDE. SOMETIMES THERE'S A ROAD THAT'S NOT EASILY VISIBLE FROM.

IT'S A FARM FIELD. BUT YET THE COUNTY OWNS RIGHT OF WAY ON THERE. SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO FIND OUT. IT TAKES RESEARCH TO SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY A ROAD OR NOT A ROAD, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF EFFORT. HOW MUCH IS THIS NEW PROGRAM WE JUST PAID, YOU KNOW, FOR THE I KEEP I KEEP LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT AS FAR AS WHAT THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM IS, I WORK, I WORK, IT'S SUPPOSED TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THIS STUFF AS FAR AS FLYING OVER THE COUNTY AND GIVING US AN ACCESS, IS IT ALSO GOING TO GIVE US RIGHT OF WAY INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT SIDE OF THE ROADS FROM THE CENTERLINE OF THE ROAD TO THE SIDE WHEN THEY ACTUALLY FLY OVER IT AND SO FORTH, TELLING US WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS? I CAN'T I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROGRAM, SIR. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S INCLUDED WHEN THEY DO. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M DEDICATING AN EMPLOYEE JUST TO I WORKS RIGHT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT THE LAPTOP, HE'S GOT THE EMAIL. HE'S GOING THROUGH ALL THE TRAINING RIGHT NOW. AND, AND I'LL BE ASKING HIM MORE QUESTIONS OF DANIEL. BUT THE SITUATION I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE BE DOING FROM THE ENGINEERING ASPECT OF IT TO ACTUALLY BRING REVENUE IN, OR WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS BRINGING REVENUE IN FOR WORK, BEING PERFORM, WHICH IS NOT NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR JOB. THE ONLY ONE I KNOW RIGHT NOW IS JUST A PERMITS. WELL, WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT? I, LIKE I SAID, JUST WORK UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT, OKAY? THANK YOU. OKAY, JOHN, HOW ABOUT ON THE THIRD PARTY INSPECTIONS ON THESE NEW SUBDIVISIONS AND STUFF COMING IN? WHO PAYS THAT BILL? THAT ENGINEERING SAY WE WANT A COURT TEST ON THE ON THE SOIL STABILIZATION AND THAT.

YEAH, IT'LL BE THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY LIKE A QUALITY CONTROL QUALITY ASSURANCE TEST ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. WE CANNOT IT WOULDN'T BE WISE TO ASK THE DEVELOPER FOR THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE CAN SEEK A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT COST. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. OR IT'D BE COMING OUT OF THE ADDED ON TO THE PERMITTING FEE FOR THAT THIRD PARTY INSPECTION. CORRECT. THAT'D BE ONE AVENUE TO COVER OUR COSTS, BECAUSE TO ME, IN MY OPINION, IT SHOULD BE LIKE A TURNKEY DEAL. YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER COMING TO US AND PAY THE FEES AND IT REQUIRES, FOR EXAMPLE, ROAD INSPECTION AND QUALITY TESTING. YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY CAN CERTAINLY HIRE A THIRD PARTY FIRM OR WHAT WE SHOULD BE PART OF THE PERMIT FEE. SO THE COUNTY THERE'S NO PERMIT PROCESS. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS DEVELOPING HERE, IT'S HIS PROPERTY. THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY TO PROVIDE HIM INFORMATION ABOUT HIS PROPERTY. IT DON'T SOUND RIGHT. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, HIRING A SURVEYOR TO GO SURVEY HIS PROPERTY SO HE CAN BUY IT. IT DON'T MAKE SENSE. NO. THEY HAVE THE DEVELOPERS ALWAYS HAVE A THIRD PARTY SURVEYOR TO DO IT. AND WE SEE THE COUNTY AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. WE ENSURE THAT THE PLAT IS SIGNED AND SEALED BY A PROFESSIONAL SURVEYOR. OKAY. YES, SIR. AND WE ARE PAYING FOR THAT. NO, SIR. OKAY. AND THAT WAS THE BIG FIGHT. PLUS, ON TOP OF THE FIGHT THAT WE HAD ON THAT THIRD PARTY SURVEY, WAS THAT IF A THIRD PARTY DID IT AND IT WAS WRONG, IT WAS LIABLE. WE ARE. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT I THINK. YEAH. BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT ON A CORE SAMPLE ON A ROAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT. AND YOU GOT A THOUSAND CARS OR THOUSAND HOMES IN THERE. AND THAT CORE TEST NOT MEET SPECIFICATIONS ON THE THIRD PARTY VERSUS THE WHAT THE DEVELOPER SUBMITTED. GET A COPY OF THAT BILL AND REALLY HAVE CHRIS GO OVER IT WITH US SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO ON IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTIES. THAT'S WHY WE FOUGHT IT. FOUGHT IT EVER. I

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ORIGINALLY, THE ROADS IN SUBDIVISION WERE SUPPOSED TO STAY WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION.

IT'S ONLY BEEN IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN ADOPTING THOSE ROADS. SO THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT, TO SEE WHAT'S IN THERE AND MAYBE ADDRESS IT. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE LEGISLATURE MEETING AND CLOSING OUT THIS YEAR, THEY'VE CHANGED A LOT OF RULES AS FAR AS SUBDIVISION TO LOOK AT THAT BILL, BECAUSE THEY MADE SOME DRASTIC CHANGES. RIGHT. WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE OUR SUBDIVISION RULES TO REFLECT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID TO US. AND WHENEVER THEY DO STUFF TO US, IT'S NOT FOR OUR GOOD. IT'S MORE FOR THE CONTRACTORS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT. OKAY, OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. DO YOU WANT TO LET CONSTABLE DO HIS. WE'LL TAKE THEM ALL DOWN. COME ON. DOWN. NEXT TESTED ON THE PRICE IS RIGHT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SIR. YOU SECOND STEVE? I'LL MAKE SOME. I'M SORRY. YOU NEXT ONE. OKAY. GIVE ME TWO. I'LL BE HERE. DID YOU GET ONE? NO. I HAD TO. MAN. I MADE A POINT. IT'S A GOOD THING. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, FIRST TIME TO DO THIS SO WE UNDERSTAND. OKAY. MINE'S PRETTY SIMPLE, THOUGH. LIKE, ALL THE ALL THE CONSTABLES MET UP AND THEY ALL DECIDED THEY WANT TO PUT A PAY INCREASE IN. RIGHT. I WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD HURT THEM IF I DIDN'T PUT IT IN. BUT I LISTED IT. BUT I'M HAPPY WITH THAT, WHATEVER HAPPENS. BUT THE ONLY CHANGES I'M MAKING. LINE ITEM NUMBER 210 IS NOT A CHANGE, BUT A PLUS FOR THE COUNTY. I'M NOT ON COUNTY INSURANCE, SO THAT'S AN EXTRA 12,000 THERE. BUT. AND THEN ON VEHICLE REPAIRS I ADDED $1,000 BECAUSE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TIRES NEXT YEAR. AND THEN FUEL. I ADDED $500 TO THAT. 12. NO PROBLEM OKAY. IT'S JUST NICE TO SEE THE CONSTABLES WORKING. YES, SIR. DOING A GOOD JOB. YEAH.

STEVE, APPRECIATE YOU DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING OUT THERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, PATRICK I GUESS. WE'VE DELAYED IT ENOUGH. I TRIED TO WAIT TILL THIS AFTERNOON. IT'S. NEVER MIND.

YEAH, I COULD DO IT. HOMER. I'LL JUST SAY NO.

THAT'S FOR SURE. SO WE HAVE. WE HAVE TWO IN FRONT OF YOU. THE FIRST ONE IS OUR OFFICE, AND WE ARE ASKING MET WITH THE JUDGES ON ON FRIDAY MORNING. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING A POSITION.

YOU'RE ADDING A RECLASSING. WELL IT'S RECLASS WE'LL WAIT TILL THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT WE MAY ADD ONE ALSO, OR JUST HOW IT WORKS OUT. SO WE'LL HAVE A SALARY INCREASE. WE ARE DOING A

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AND THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT SETTING UP A DEPARTMENT FOR THE MOTOR POOL. WE HAVE ONE VEHICLE FOR OUR OFFICE, ALL THE OTHER VEHICLES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN TRACK ALL THAT SEPARATELY. THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND BUDGET IS, IS WE MOVED THE VEHICLES OUT FROM UNDER OUR DEPARTMENT INTO A MOTOR POOL DEPARTMENT. JOHN MENTIONED ABOUT A VEHICLE TO GO. JOHN AND HOMER HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR I THINK. IS PATRICK CORRECT FOR PATRICK OVER THERE AND LOOKING AT GETTING HIM ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES THAT HE CAN USE, USE A COUNTY VEHICLE FOR GOING BACK AND FORTH TO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, BEING IN THE POOL. YES. PEOPLE CAN CHECK IT OUT. NO, WE KNOW WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT FROM THE POOL TO BUILDINGS AND TO BUILDINGS AND YARDS. DOES ANYBODY ACTUALLY TAKE POOL VEHICLES? I NEVER SEE A MOVE. WE USE SOME OF THEM. THERE WE GO. WE TRY TO ROTATE THEM OUT AND THERE WE GO TO DIFFERENT OFFICES. AND THEN. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY REQUESTS TO TAKE THE TRUTH, HOW MANY REQUESTS WE HAVE. I KNOW APRIL TOOK ONE TO CONFERENCE. MAYBE AN WAS THAT MARCH, I BELIEVE I KNOW MAJORITY OF THE TIME WHEN THEY COME TO MY OFFICE IN A PERSONAL VEHICLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE NOTICED THOSE THINGS. I JUST LIKE THE IT DEPARTMENT COMING TO MY OFFICE.

THEY'RE IN A PERSONAL VEHICLES. RIGHT. SO I ASK YOU, DO WE EVEN THERE, THERE. THEY JUST HAVE TO COME GET THEM. SO IT'S NOT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. WE PAY MILEAGE. ARE WE PAYING MILEAGE THESE PEOPLE AND HAVE A THE MOTOR POOL FULL. YEAH. DO WE. THERE ARE SOME I DON'T KNOW DOES IT DEPARTMENT DO HAVE RECENT. DID THEY SEND MILEAGE IN FOR IT. DEPARTMENT. YES THEY DO.

THEY JUST GOT A CAR ASSIGNED TO THEM. THEY DID. WELL THAT'S NICE BUT I'M STILL I'M LIKE I SAID THERE'S LIKE 3 OR 4 OF THEM THAT GET OUT THERE. JOSH GETS OUT. YES. AND EVEN THEY, THEY ARE AWARE OF OUR CARS. THEY JUST PREFER NOT TO USE THEM. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. YOU NEED TO ASK THEM. AND WE'RE STILL PAYING MILEAGE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THEM. YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL WE NEED TO DO SOME KIND OF POLICY TO STOP THAT, BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BUYING A COUPLE OF NEW VEHICLES. I KNOW I'D LIKE TO SEE THE LADIES WHEN THEY TRAVEL OUT OF OUT OF TOWN IN A NEW VEHICLE, SOMETHING SAFE FOR THEM. SO I THINK PURCHASING A COUPLE OF VEHICLES WOULD BE BIG ON THAT. I WOULD AGREE, BECAUSE THE ONE COMMENT I WAS GOING TO HAVE WAS I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE ON THESE VEHICLES. AND I HAVE BEEN AT CONFERENCES WHERE I'VE OVERHEARD THE PEOPLE USING THOSE VEHICLES WHO HAD KIND OF CONCERNS OR AFRAID, LIKE WHEN THEY PULL UP TO A STOPLIGHT, THE VEHICLE DIES AND THEY'RE CONCERNED THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO GET STRANDED WITH A VEHICLE THAT'S NOT DEPENDABLE. SURE. SO I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW CURRENTLY WE'RE GETTING MAINTENANCE DONE. I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A WELL, WE'RE WE ARE WE ARE MAINTAINING THEM AND THERE'S NOT I WAS LOOKING AT THE I WE'RE NOT PUTTING A LOT OF MILES ON THEM FROM YEAR TO YEAR. I WAS GOING BACK. IN FACT, I WENT AND CHECKED MILES ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON ON THEM. AND SO I WAS LOOKING BACK AT PAST YEARS, THERE'S ONLY, AS I SAID EARLIER, 4 OR 5000 MILES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

IT SEEMS LIKE, AS I ADDED BEFORE, THE GOVERNOR PREFERRED VEHICLE HAS BEEN SITTING IN THE SAME SPOT SINCE JANUARY. YEAH, YOU'RE GETTING SQUARE WHEELS. SURE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE. HE MOVED. WE HAVE A TWO 2010 TAHOE WITH 160,000 MILES ON IT. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT DUE FOR THAT ONE TO GO AWAY. AND Y'ALL WANT TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE. WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S UP TO YOU KNOW WELL WE DON'T NEED TO BE PURCHASING Y'ALL'S DIRECTION. EXPLORERS AND ALL THESE HUMONGOUS ENGINE VEHICLES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY I DRIVE A VEHICLE AND I JUST WENT TO FORT WORTH AND LESS THAN HALF A TANK OF GAS. SURE. I MEAN, THEN IF I TOOK MY COUNTY VEHICLE UP THERE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO AND A HALF TANKS OF GAS. SURE. SO BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BUY SOMETHING BECAUSE USUALLY THE LADY WILL GO IN 2 OR 3 AT A TIME. SO BY THE TIME YOU PUT 2 OR 3 LADIES IN THERE AND THEN THEIR LUGGAGE. SO WE NEED SOMETHING DECENT. SURE. I'M NOT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT STEP. AND BY THAT I DON'T LIKE SEEING I KNOW APRIL WENT IN SOME

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HOMER USED CAR SALES WITH SOME OF THESE. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO ADD COUNCIL AND MAYBE LOOK, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME OF THAT STUFF THAT HE HAS DOWN THERE BECAUSE, I MEAN, HE WILL HAVE SOME TAURUSES AVALANCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YES, SIR. OR ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, NISSANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT OR PEOPLE. EASY WHEN THEY GO SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SUGGESTION STARTING TO LOOK AT IT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU GOT. IS IT. THAT'S IT OKAY. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY OKAY. GOOD DEAL. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. NOBODY ELSE IS HERE. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL RECESS UNTIL THE 1:00 MEETING THAT WE'LL HAVE WITH BUDGET PRESENTATIONS FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES. OKAY, SO WE'LL BE BACK

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.