[a. Examination, consideration, and action on approval of all claims against San Patricio County Pursuant to section 113.064, Texas Local Government Code.]

FINANCIAL AGENDA, WE HAVE EXAMINATION, CONSIDERATION OF ACTION OF ALL CLAIMS AGAINST HAMILTON COUNTY TO PAY THE BILLS. SECOND, A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECOND BY YARDLEY TO PAY THE BILLS AS PRESENTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME

[b. Consideration and action on Budget Line Items, Transfers, and Amendments.]

SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. WE DO HAVE A FEW THIS MORNING. FIRST OF ALL, WE GOT ONE FROM ANIMAL CONTROL TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM GENERAL SUPPLIES INTO NCO

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FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT. NEXT ONE IS OUT OF THE INDIGENT HEALTH CARE. TRANSFERRED FUNDS FROM ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS INTO THE SOFTWARE LICENSE AND SUPPORT, AND THEN TRANSFERRED FROM MISCELLANEOUS SERVICES AND CHARGES INTO INSURANCE, BONDS AND PREMIUMS. NEXT ONE IS OUT OF PRECINCT ONE. TRANSFER FUNDS FROM EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, AND TRAVEL INTO NCO FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT. NEXT ONE IS OUT OF PRECINCT TWO, TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, OVERTIME, VEHICLE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AND RENTAL REPAIR MATERIALS. REPAIR PARTS, SIGNAGE, GENERAL SUPPLIES, FUEL, OIL AND LUBRICANTS, AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIES, NCR FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, AND OTHER SUPPLIES IN THE SEALCOATING, ANOTHER ONE OUT OF PRECINCT TWO TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM REPAIRS AND MATERIAL, REPAIR AND PARTS, FUEL OIL AND LUBRICANTS, FURNITURE, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT, AND AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIES INTO SOFTWARE LICENSE AND SUPPORT. THE LAST ONE OUT OF R&B FOR TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM REPAIR MATERIALS INTO SOFTWARE.

LICENSE AND SUPPORT. MOVE TO APPROVE BUDGET LINE TRANSFERS. SECOND, A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY YARDLEY. ANY QUESTIONS? JUDGE, CAN I EXPLAIN? SO I HAVE TWO BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. THE FIRST ONE IS A VERY LARGE ONE THAT WE'RE MOVING MONEY FROM SEVERAL LINES INTO SEALCOATING. EXCUSE ME. SO I DID NOT BUDGET ANY MONEY FOR SEALCOATING THIS YEAR. I WAS HOPING WE COULD GET BY A YEAR WITHOUT DOING ANY SEALCOATING, BUT COUNTY ROAD 1612, WHICH GETS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AS AN AREA THAT'S STARTING TO DETERIORATE AND I WANT TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE ROADS THAT'S UNDER THE MOU WITH PRECINCT ONE. THIS ROAD IS IN PRECINCT ONE, BUT I'M MOVING $226,000 AROUND MY BUDGET TO COVER SEALCOATING PROJECT ON THAT ROAD. AND THE SECOND BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFER IS 46,000. AND THAT'S GOING TOWARDS THE I WORK REQUEST THAT YOUR OFFICE HAD SENT OUT. SO WE DID THAT FOR YOUR REQUEST. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. I WORKS PROGRAM THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO THE COUNTY WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS CAN KEEP A DAILY ACCOUNTING OF ALL THE MAINTENANCE, EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO ON A COMPUTER PROGRAM. ONE OF THE BIG ITEMS THAT WE'RE FACING TODAY IS THAT IF WE EVER DO HAVE A DISASTER, WHETHER FEMA IS STILL IN EXISTENCE OR NOT, BUT ONE OF THEIR MAJOR REQUIREMENTS OF FEMA IS THAT YOU PRODUCE MAINTENANCE ON YOUR EQUIPMENT OR YOU'RE OUT.

SO THAT'S WHY THIS PROGRAM IS BEING BROUGHT IN. WE WANT TO MAKE DARN SURE THAT WHEN THEY CHANGE OIL, THEY DO ANYTHING TO THEIR EQUIPMENT. IT'S GOING TO BE RECORDED ON THE PROGRAM.

ANYTIME THEY GO OUT, PUT GRAVEL DOWN SOMEWHERE, IT'S GOING TO BE RECORDED ON A COMPUTER PROGRAM.

I THINK IN THE PAST, A LOT OF THIS STUFF HAS BEEN KEPT ON A YELLOW NOTEPAD, PROBABLY, AND ONCE A YELLOW NOTEPAD DISAPPEARS, EVERYTHING ON THAT PAD IS GONE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TAKEN CARE OF AND IT'S UP TO DATE. NOW, EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAS ASSIGNED A PERSON TO DO THIS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN TRAINING. AND FOR THE THREE YEAR PROGRAM.

IT'S A LITTLE EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WORTH IT. SO WHAT WE'VE DIVIDED IS DIVIDED IT UP TO FOURS. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS TRANSFER FOR THAT SOFTWARE ON THEIR PROGRAM.

OKAY. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. THOSE

[c. Consideration and action on accepting bank reconciliation, investment reports, and related matters by County Treasurer. ]

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. 2.2 IS CONSIDERATION ACTION. BANK RECONCILIATION. TREASURER'S REPORT. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. THIS WEEK'S HEALTH TRANSFER IS $95,600. OUR SECTION 125 TOTAL IS $2,955.26. WE HAVE TWO ASSERTED CLAIMS FOR A TOTAL OF $19,868.52, AND OUR ESCROW TOTAL

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IS $548.40 $8.49. MOVE TO ACCEPT TREASURER'S REPORT. SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND, BY YOUR TREASURER'S REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL GO INTO CONSENT AGENDA

[3. Consent Agenda: All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the Commissioners Court. Members of the Commissioners Court have been furnished documentation on each item, and all such items may be acted upon by one vote without being discussed separately unless requested by County Judge or a Commissioner:]

ITEMS. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THIS MORNING. COMMISSIONERS, DO Y'ALL NEED EITHER ONE OF THOSE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION OR ARE YOU GOOD WITH THEM? OKAY. HEARING. HEARING. NO DISCUSSION. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO 2.3 A IS ACCEPT AND RECORD A REQUEST FROM J.P. EASLEY, CONSTABLE NUMBER EIGHT, TO APPOINT A RESERVE DEPUTY CONSTABLE JOSEPH ROBERTS, TO CONSTABLE PRECINCT EIGHT, DEPARTMENT 2.3 B IS CONSIDERATION AN ACTION TO APPOINT MR. CHRIS MESSINA TO REPRESENT PRECINCT FOUR IN THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2.3 A AND B SECOND. A MOTION BY GILLESPIE, SECONDED BY, OF COURSE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE GO

[a. Discussion and update by John Hernandez, P.E., County Engineer, on current activities at the Justice Center.]

INTO OUR INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE ON THE ROLL IS 2.4 A IS DISCUSSED AND UPDATE BY JOHN HERNANDEZ, PEE, COUNTY ENGINEER, ON THE CURRENT ACTIVITIES AT THE JUSTICE CENTER. I'LL TELL YOU, JOHN, JUST BE GONE. BE GONE A WEEK AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE THE PROGRESS OVER THERE. WELL, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY'S TEAM AND UNDER THE DIRECTION OF COMMISSIONERS COURT, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH A VERY GOOD CONTRACTOR, FULTON. AND WE HAVE CONTINUE TO HAVE EXCELLENT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN COUNTY'S TEAM. THE ARCHITECT TEAM AND OF COURSE, FULTON. SO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HERE WE ARE AGAIN, ANOTHER MONTHLY UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE JUSTICE CENTER RIGHT NOW IS TODAY WE STAND ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 42% COMPLETE. THIS MONTH'S PAYOUT IS APPROXIMATELY $2.2 MILLION. HERE IS JUST A JUST FOR A GENERAL VIEW. JUST A PROJECT OVERSIGHT OF JOHN. SHOULD WE JUST GO THROUGH THE PICTURES? ONE HERE.

ONE THING I WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN TELL WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WE CALL THIS CINDER BLOCK UNITS. AND THAT'S THE INTERIOR. YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME MENTION BEFORE THROUGH PROBABLY JULY, MAYBE EVEN AUGUST, THAT THE MAIN THING DRIVING THE PROJECT COMPLETION IS WHAT WE CALL THE MEP, THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING. BUT AS PART OF THAT. YEAH THAT'S FINE. JOSH, YOU CAN SEE THE LIKE RIGHT HERE. THOSE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE LIKE THE FUTURE WINDOWS OF THE BUILDING. SO STARTING AROUND THE FRAMING ON THE INTERIOR AS WELL. NEXT ONE. THIS ONE HERE IS A IS A VERY TOP OF THE BUILDING. THEY CALL IT THE PENTHOUSE. BUT YOU CAN NOTICE RIGHT HERE THESE LITTLE PADS. THESE ARE THAT'S WHERE ALL THE LIKE THE PUMP AND THE HVAC SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT EVENTUALLY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND.

UPCOMING HERE. THE NEXT THE NEXT BIG ITEM FOR THE COUNTY CONSIDER IS WHAT WE CALL THIS. WATER STORAGE TANK. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FINALIZE THE DETAILS WITH THE ARCHITECT AND THEIR SUBCONSULTANT URBAN ENGINEERING AND FINALIZING THAT. AND ALSO THE COUNTY WILL NEED TO VISIT TO WITH THE DEVELOPER TO CHECK ON THE STATUS OF THE LIFT STATION. AND SO THAT'LL BE UPCOMING AS WELL. JOHN, AS THEY GAVE YOU A DATE, A FINAL DATE IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT SIZE OF THAT STORAGE TANK. NO, SIR, NOT NOT QUITE YET. THE COUNTY'S TEAM IN WORKING WITH, OF COURSE, BRW AND FULTON, WE THE COURT LAST LAST FRIDAY DID APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER FOR FULTON FOR BRW TO PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN OF THE COMPLETION OF THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION SLASH STORAGE SYSTEM. SO THAT'S IN THE WORKS. BUT I KNOW WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY, AND I KNOW THE DESIGN HAS BEGUN. THERE'S NOT GIVEN US AN ESTIMATED TIME OF COMPLETION, BUT IT IS THEY WE HAVE ADVISED THE BRW THAT THERE'S A VERY CRITICAL ITEM FOR THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD.

RIGHT. YES, SIR. CORRECT. LASTLY, YOU ALWAYS HEAR YOU ALWAYS HEAR ME DISCUSS ON THE

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PROJECT SCHEDULE. THE CRITICAL PATH. THAT RED LINE HERE VERY CRITICAL. SO LIKE I SAID I KNOW IT SHOWS ON HERE APPROXIMATE THROUGH MID-JUNE, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE THROUGH MOST OF JULY. THAT'S RIGHT. NOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CODE, THE FIRST FLOOR, THE MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING. BUT IT'S GOING TO PROGRESS. THE SECOND FLOOR, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE THIRD FLOOR. AND IN BETWEEN THERE IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE SCHEDULE. BUT YOU YOU NOTICE IN SOME OF THE PICTURES WITHIN IN THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, SOME CRITICAL ITEMS, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE STEEL MEMBERS COME TO THE A GRADE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE. WHAT CONTINUATION WILL WE CALL THAT CINDER MECHANICAL CINDER BLOCK UNIT. AND IN BETWEEN THEM THERE'S STEEL REINFORCEMENT. AND THEN EVENTUALLY WITHIN THE CINDER BLOCKS, THEY THEY POUR GROUT INSIDE THE LITTLE CYLINDER HOSE. BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A BE AN ONGOING THING WITH THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. BUT THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE ON THE JUSTICE CENTER. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL THANK YOU JOHN. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. LOT OF PUMPS. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSING AN UPDATE

[b. Discussion and update by John Hernandez, P.E., County Engineer, on ARPA funded projects including: The Animal Shelter, Juvenile Detention Center Extension and Fiber Optic.]

BY JOHN HERNANDEZ, COUNTY ENGINEER ON ARPA FUNDED PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE ANIMAL SHELTER, JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER EXTENSION AND THE FIBER OPTICS. LET ME LET ME START OFF WITH. HEY, JOSH, LET ME START OFF WITH FIRST WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS ABOUT 15% COMPLETE, AND THESE GUYS STILL HAVE TO THE END OF THE YEAR TO COMPLETE IT. WHAT WAS SHOWN HERE? THEY'VE BUILT THEY'VE POURED CONCRETE BEFORE. WE CALLED THE BARN AREA. AND THEN FOR, FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDING, THEY'VE BROUGHT THE FILL MATERIAL. SO WE CALL A FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENTS. SO WORK IS SLOWLY PROGRESSING ON THAT PROJECT. BECK BROTHERS IS A CONTRACTOR, AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING TO TRY TO GET WHAT WE CALL A WATER TAP FROM RINCON WATER SUPPLY. BUT THAT'S WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME ON THAT. BEFORE OPENING THE BUILDING. THE NEXT PROJECT IS A JUVENILE DETENTION. HERE WE GO. THIS, YOU KNOW, HERE AGAIN AT THE COUNTY'S TEAM IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE BECK BROTHERS, WHO ARE ALSO DOING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THIS PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 37% COMPLETE. AND HERE AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT OF THE JUSTICE CENTER RIGHT HERE. THERE'S THEY STILL HAVE THOSE CYLINDER BLOCK UNITS AND THEN SEE THESE LITTLE THINGS STICKING UP THERE. THAT'S THAT'S REINFORCING STEEL. AND SO TUESDAY, THIS COMING TUESDAY AT AROUND 11:00 AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO COME BY, THEY'RE GOING TO FILL UP THOSE HOLES WITH GROUT. SECURE IT. AND HERE AGAIN THAT THAT PARTICULAR ON THE GROUND IT'S WE HAVE A QC QA WE HAVE A LAB. THEY TEST IT. IT'S SUPPOSED TO MEET CERTAIN TEST REQUIREMENTS AT 28 DAYS. SO A LOT OF SIMILARLY BUILT IN THAT STRUCTURE. ALL RIGHT. THIS LAST ONE HERE I'M GOING TO TAG TEAM WITH MR. STEVEN. THIS IS ON THE FIBER OPTIC JOB. THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT ONE THAT PROJECT THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 19% COMPLETE. AND THEN STEVEN CAN TALK ABOUT MORE OF THE FURTHER CONSTRUCTION DETAILS. THANKS, JOHN. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. JUDGE, I MADE A SIMPLE ILLUSTRATION OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. WE'RE GOING TO START HERE AT THE EOC.

AND IF YOU CAN SEE IT JUST KIND OF RUNS THROUGH THE RAILROAD TRACK ALL THE WAY TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEN HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND THEN KIND OF TAKES A LEFT HERE AT THE MARKET, BACK TO THE COURTHOUSE. AND THEN OUR SITES NEXT TWO SITES WILL BE OVER HERE AT THE

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JUSTICE CENTER, AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET TO THE ANNEX, WHICH WE'RE IN. AND THEN A SMALL PATH RIGHT HERE TO THE RADIO. RADIO TOWER. AND THEN RIGHT HERE I'M GOING TO SHOW A COUPLE OF THE BUILDINGS. THESE ARE ALL JUST THE PENETRATIONS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE CONNECTING. AGAIN, THIS IS THE EOC. THIS IS WHERE TO START. THIS IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT RIGHT HERE OFF OF RACIAL STREET AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE. I DON'T HAVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON THAT.

WE'LL GO TO MARKET STREET TO THE COURTHOUSE AGAIN. THIS WILL BE THE ANNEX BACK WALL PENETRATION.

THE JUSTICE CENTER DIDN'T HAVE ONE. IT'LL BE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY FROM HERE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE RADIO TOWER THAT GOES BACK TO THE EOC. SO THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE PATH THAT I WANTED TO DISPLAY OF THE PROJECT. IT'S STILL ON SCHEDULE TO BE COMPLETED AT THE END OF AUGUST.

SO FAR THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH MOTHER NATURE AND THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE.

GREAT NEWS. GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. YOU DIDN'T LIST THE GENERATOR PROJECT, WHICH IS GOING ON AT MY OFFICE OVER THERE. I THINK ABOUT 40% COMPLETE. I MEAN, THEY'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. I'VE SEEN ALL THE PIPING IN THE GROUND AND THIS HAS BEEN DONE. THE CONCRETE'S BEEN CUT. THE GENERATOR IS SITTING ON SITE, BUT DON'T MENTION IT. RIGHT. I KNEW THAT WAS AN UPPER FUNDED PROJECT, BUT I DELAYED IT FOR YOU TO MENTION TO THE PUBLIC.

YOU KNOW, SIR. ON THE COMMISSIONERS FEELING LEFT OUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE DOING A FINE JOB WITH THOSE GUYS. I'M DOING GOOD THAT THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON, BUT THOSE ARE THE KEY ONES FOR THE ARPA AND THE JUSTICE CENTER. SO REALLY IMPORTANT ONES. YES. YEAH.

THANKS. I'LL REMEMBER THAT. THERE YOU GO. WELL THANK YOU. OKAY. THANKS FOR STEVEN FOR THAT POWERPOINT. THANK YOU JOHN. YEP. OKAY. 2.4 C IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MARION

[c. Consideration and Action on request from Scott Marion, Fire Marshal to accept a donation of $9,500 from RWE Clean Energy, LLC for Equipment.]

MARSHALL TO ACCEPT A DONATION OF $9,500 FROM RW CLEAN ENERGY LLC FOR EQUIPMENT, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S ABOUT WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST AN ACCEPTING A GRANT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. GOT IT. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY SIKORSKY. MR. GONZALEZ. SECONDED. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED?

[d. Consideration and action on the transfer of a used 2017 Ford Explorer from Emergency Management (Safety) to I.T. Director: 2017 Ford Explorer VIN: 1FM5K7B80HGB71969 License Plate: TX 134 1765 Mileage: 124,493]

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES TWO POINT FOUR D. I WANT A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM. WE GOT SOME DISCUSSION. FURTHER DISCUSSION. WE GOT TO DO WITH BOTH SIDES OF THE PARTY. MOVE TO TABLE SECOND.

OKAY I GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE. SECOND BY THE TABLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO TABLE SAY AYE. AYE AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. OKAY. MOTION TABLE OKAY 2.4 IS CONSIDERATION

[e. Consideration and action on request from Steven Gonzales, I.S. Manager, to add 3logic door access to Adult Probation building, Recommend Barcom Technology Solutions to provide services at $4,102.93 (Hardware billed upon delivery).]

ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM STEVEN GONZALEZ, HIS MANAGER, TO ADD THREE LOGISTICS DOOR ACCESS TO ADULT PROBATION BUILDING RECOMMENDED BARKHAM. AND HE MAY HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS TO PROVIDE SERVICES AT $4,102.93. HARDWARE BUILD UPON DELIVERY. STEVEN.

YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT. IT WAS BNR. AND THE REASON WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE BNR DO OUR DOOR ACCESS IS SECURITY ISSUE. THEY HAVE ALL THE PASSWORDS AND THEY DO ALL THE BACK END INFRASTRUCTURE WITH OUR IP ADDRESSES. SO WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER VENDOR COME IN AND THEN START SHARING ALL THAT VITAL INFORMATION. SO I WANTED TO SEE IF I CAN AMEND THAT. AND IT WAS ONLY A $10 DIFFERENCE. PRICE MOTION APPROVED 2.41 I WITH BNR TELEPHONE QUOTE I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT IS A COUNTY BUILDING. SO THE IT IT WOULD BE PAYING IT OUT OF THE BUDGET. A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS ON THE ISSUE HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE

[f. Consideration and action on a request from Chesca Newman, County Purchasing Coordinator, on awarding RFP2025-006 for Employee Classification.]

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. 2.4 F CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM JESSICA NEWMAN, COUNTY PURCHASING COORDINATOR ON AWARDING RFP 2020 5-006 FOR EMPLOYEE CLASSIFICATION. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I WILL SPEAK ON THIS TODAY ON THIS ONE.

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THIS WAS A SCORING COMMITTEE, GOT TOGETHER AND REVIEWED ALL THE PROPOSALS. THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR MANAGEMENT ADVISORY GROUP INTERNATIONAL. THEY WERE WITHIN THE TIME FRAME NEEDED TO GET THE PLAN TOGETHER FOR THE COUNTY, AND THEY SCORED REALLY WELL IN THE PROPOSALS.

MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SIKORSKI, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. THIS IS GOING TO SOLVE ALL OUR PROBLEMS, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING FROM THIS THAT WE DIDN'T GET THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS? WELL, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO OUR OUR LAST ONE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. AND WE ARE HAVE SOME LESSONS LEARNED THAT THEY WILL BE TAKEN THROUGH. AND WE WILL TRY AND IMPROVE THE PREVIOUS. THE HR DEPARTMENT WILL BE WORKING WITH THAT ALONG WITH THE SALARY COMMITTEE. SO I THINK I THINK WITH THE INFLATION WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THIS IS DEFINITELY NEEDED. THEY HAVE A SOLID PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD AFTER IT IS AWARDED. IT'LL GO TO THEM AND THEY WILL MOVE THIS PROCESS FORWARD FROM HR. WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO STRESS THAT AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT, WE NEED A USABLE PLAN THAT ACTUALLY WORKS. SOMEHOW. WE DIDN'T GET THAT LAST TIME. SO COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE THAT THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, WE STARTED OUT WITH EVERGREEN, THE WHOLE CREW THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH CHANGED. WE HAD TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. OKAY. BUT THE TIME WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOOD, WE SAW LOTS OF PROBLEMS IN IT. SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE REVISION, GO BACK THROUGH IT AGAIN. I THINK IT WAS MORE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A FIASCO THE FIRST TIME. ON WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO, WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING IN HERE FAST SO WE COULD HAVE THAT SALARY COMPENSATION. THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT, LOT MORE INVOLVEMENT ON THIS COURT. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WITH THAT SALARY COMPENSATION, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH THEM.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY. TWO

[g. Consideration and action on a request from Melanie Cooper, Grant Manager, on awarding RFP2025-010 WIC Aransas Pass Re-Model.]

POINT FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM COOPER GRANT MANAGER ON AWARDING RFP 2020 5-010 WICK ARANSAS PASS REMODEL. THIS WAS APPROVED FOR RFP AND THE PROPOSALS CAME IN.

WE DID. WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE PROPOSAL. ANOTHER PROPOSAL WAS SUBMITTED, BUT IT WAS LATE. WE COULD NOT ACCEPT THAT PROPOSAL. SO THE ONE PROPOSAL THAT WAS RECEIVED, WE REVIEWED IT. WE WORKED WITH MAINTENANCE AND WE WORKED WITH A GROUP TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE THAT PROPOSAL. IT DID COME IN UNDER BUDGET. THIS BUILDING IS IN ARANSAS PASS. IT IS A COUNTY BUILDING. IT IS IN SERIOUS NEED OF REPAIRS. THE WICK DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON A GRANT TO COVER ALL THOSE EXPENSES, AND THERE WILL BE NO COST TO THE COUNTY. IT WOULD BE FROM THE WICK GRANT THAT WOULD COVER ALL THOSE COSTS. I PASSED OUT THE BUDGET PROPOSAL AND THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR US TO REVIEW.

WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL IF IT IS APPROVED DUE TO THE TIMELINE OF THE GRANT, IF WE IF WE WERE TO GO BACK OUT FOR BID OR DELAY ANY, WE MIGHT NOT RECEIVE THOSE GRANT FUNDS BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION MUST BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION BY GILLESPIE. SECOND BY HARTLEY. YES. OKAY. I THINK MELISSA ONLY HAD ONE BID. THERE WERE TWO PROPOSALS. ONE PROPOSAL CAME IN LATE. IT CAME IN THREE MINUTES LATE. BUT THE DEADLINE IS A HARD DEADLINE. IT WAS SENT BACK WITH THE CONTRACTOR. BUT THE PROPOSAL THAT DID COME IN DID COME IN SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER BUDGET. SO WE WERE. AND EVALUATION AND EVALUATION OF THE COMPANY. IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD, SOLID PROPOSAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. WELL, I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO SEE THREE BIDS ON THIS. IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO GO WITH ONE. IF WE DID GO OUT FOR THREE BIDS ON THAT, WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE THE GRANT FUNDS AND IT'D HAVE TO BE A COUNTY FUNDED PROJECT. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE TIMELINE. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GO BACK OUT AND THEN STILL RECEIVE THE GRANT FUNDS, AND WE'D HAVE TO MOVE THAT BUDGET OVER TO THE COUNTY. WITH THE COMPLIANCE AND EVERYTHING IT IS, IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO ACCEPT ONE. BUT IF IT IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE COURT, IF NOT APPROVED BY THE COURT, WE WOULD HAVE TO RETURN THE GRANT FUNDS. THANK YOU GOD. GIVE US ANY, ANY TIME. MELISSA, WOULD YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THIS THAT YOU

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HAVE BEFORE US, PLEASE? WITH THE GRANT FUNDING, I APPLIED FOR $200,000. AND IF WE PROCEED, IT IS THEY WILL REIMBURSE THE COUNTY AT 100%. THE THING WITH THE PROCESS IS, IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING ENCUMBERED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEN THE BUILDING HAS TO BE FINISHED BY THE END OF DECEMBER. AND WITH ONE BID IS ACCEPTABLE BY THE BY THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE STATE AND TO THE USDA. WE DID TIMELINE. BUT JUST WHY DID WE TAKE SO LONG TO. OH NO WE IT WAS ACTUALLY THERE'S A PROCESS AND IT HAS TO BE IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR AN ALLOTTED AMOUNT OF TIME. AND IF THE BIDS DON'T COME IN, ONE IS ACCEPTABLE. WE DID GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ACTUALLY HAD 13 CONTRACTORS REVIEW, REVIEW AND COME OUT TO DO THE WALKTHROUGH, AND ONLY ONE PERSON TURNED IN. WE DID HAVE WE DID HAVE TWO PEOPLE TURNING.

YEAH, WE DID HAVE TWO PEOPLE TURN IN, BUT THE OTHER ONE WAS THREE MINUTES LATE AND THE BID WAS WAS RETURNED BY THE COUNTY. SO THEY DID COME IN. BUT STILL THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE LOWEST COST THAT WE'VE SEEN. AND THE, THE BEST, THE BEST COST FOR THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. IS A 100% REIMBURSEMENT, PERCENT REIMBURSABLE. YES, SIR. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE'LL NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE USDA. SO ONCE THE COURT APPROVES, I HAVE TO SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK TO BE APPROVED THROUGH THE USDA. OKAY. AND THEN WE GO THROUGH. THEN WE GO THROUGH CONTRACTING AND HAVE THAT CONTRACTED AND APPROVED BY THE COURT AND THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, A MOTION. AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. OKAY. 2.4 H DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION.

[h. Discussion, consideration, and action on a request from Homer Roblez, First Assistant County Auditor, to award IFB2025-009 for HVAC Services. ]

REQUEST. FIRST ASSISTANT COUNTY AUDITOR TO AWARD IFB 20.5009 FOR H SERVICES. GOOD MORNING JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS. WE DID RECEIVE TWO BIDS AND ONE WAS FROM MALIK AND THE OTHER ONE WAS COASTLINE.

SPOKE TO MR. DORIA AND HE IS GOOD WITH COASTLINE. THEY WERE THE LOWEST BIDDER AND THEY BID ON ON LIKE THEY PUT THEIR HOURLY RATES ON DIFFERENT SERVICES. SO IT'S UP TO YOU ALL IF YOU WANT TO AWARD THAT OR NOT. IS THIS WHAT THE COURTHOUSE. IT'S COUNTY WIDE COUNTYWIDE. YEAH. WHEREVER THEY WHEREVER WE NEED SERVICES, THEY'RE THERE. WE CAN USE WHATEVER AWARDED VENDOR Y'ALL DECIDE ON THE USE COASTLINE A LOT RIGHT NOW. THERE WERE YES, SIR. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT HAD THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. ANY QUESTIONS? HOW MANY EMPLOYEES AND SERVICE VANS DOES COASTLINE HAVE? I HAVE NO IDEA THAT YOU'D HAVE TO ASK MR. DORIA, BUT ONE OF THE PROVISIONS IS THEY HAVE TO ATTEST THAT THEY DO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PERFORM THE WORK AS REQUIRED, AND THEY ATTEST TO IT, SO WE CAN LEGALLY HOLD THEM TO WHATEVER THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO. WELL, THEN I KNOW THEY'RE HERE PRETTY FAST WHEN WE WE'VE HAD GOOD EXPERIENCES WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER HAD A BIG LAG TIME OR ANYTHING. AND THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIED TIMELINE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND. IT IS SPECIFIED IN THE BID AWARD, SO THEY DO HAVE TO ABIDE BY IT, I CAN'T REMEMBER. IT'S WITHIN 24 HOURS ON SOME AND LESS THAN THAT ON OTHERS. SURE. HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH COASTLINE AC? WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH IT IN A GOOD WHILE.

YOU'RE GOOD. WE'LL GIVE THEM THE JAIL THAT WE'RE STILL HERE. SO THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A GOOD WHILE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION. OKAY OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION

[i. Consideration and action to reimburse Constable Precinct #6, Kody Fahrenthold, for a replacement Buoyancy Control Device in the amount of $999.95. The item is personal in nature but used during call-outs for his dive assistance through the local Sheriff's Office in locating individuals at Lake Corpus Christi.]

CARRIES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TWO POINT FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO REIMBURSE CONSTABLE PRECINCT SIX CODY FARENTHOLD FOR REPLACEMENT BUOYANCY AND CONTROL DEVICE IN THE AMOUNT OF. AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S $719.95, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THIS ITEM IS A PERSONAL. IT IS USED WHEN BEING DURING CALL OUTS FOR DIVE ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE LOCAL SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN LOCATING INDIVIDUALS AT LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. SO MOTION TO APPROVE

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2.4 A SECOND. FIRST. CASE SECOND. LESLIE. QUESTION. CODY, I KNOW YOU'RE USING YOUR PERSONAL EQUIPMENT. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THAT IF A COUNTY BUYS THAT EQUIPMENT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I PLAN ON PUTTING IT IN MY BUDGET. SO, YEAH, I SPOKE TO MR. FARENTHOLD AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY UTILIZES DIVE TEAM FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND IF WE HAVE A DISASTER, IT MAY BE EVEN MORE RIGHT. THEY DO IT NOT ONLY FOR OUR COUNTY. WE A LOT OF THE CITIES IN THE COUNTY AND ALSO OTHER COUNTIES, RIGHT, DO IT FOR OTHER COUNTIES. SO WE WOULD MUCH RATHER USE OUR EQUIPMENT. SOMETHING GO WRONG WITH IT. IT'S OURS. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE THAT AS WELL. THAT OKAY GREAT DEAL. WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT AND BUDGET. MY QUESTION IS DOES THE SHERIFF DO YOU HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT ALSO? NO. NO WE DO NOT. AND I WANT TO COMMEND THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HERE FOR HIS JOB THAT HE DOES FOR US, EVEN WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH THAT WE DON'T EVER GIVE HIM RECOGNITION FOR, WE'VE DONE A HECK OF A JOB THERE ALSO. BUT PARKS AND WILDLIFE SHOWS UP AT OUR DROWNING EVENTS OVER AT THE, AT THE STATE PARK. THEY HAVE REAL NICE EQUIPMENT TO DETECT THE BODY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OF THE LAKE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO GO DOWN AND GET THE BODY. AND CODY DOES THAT FOR US AND IT NEVER FAILS. HE'S ALWAYS GET THERE AND HE'S AND HE'S THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO EXTRICATE THESE BODIES IS THROUGH HIS HELP. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IS A GREAT A GOOD IDEA. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT HE DOES FOR US. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR US. DO YOU NEED THAT EQUIPMENT? ABSOLUTELY. OH, YEAH. I MEAN, FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. NO, WE DON'T NEED IT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIVERS. HE USED TO BE OUR DIVER, AND SO WAS THE OTHER DEPUTY THAT THAT'S NOW HIS DEPUTY CONSTABLE. SO WE LOST BOTH OUR DIVERS AND THEY'RE NOW WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, AND WE UTILIZE THEM. WE DON'T. I DON'T HAVE ANY DIVERS. OKAY, PATRICK, HOW WOULD WE WANT WHO, HOW AND WHO WOULD WE WANT TO OWN THIS EQUIPMENT? WOULD IT BE PRECINCT SIX OR IT WILL ACTUALLY BE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OWNS IT AND HE USES IT. HOW WOULD THAT WHAT DO WE DO? I GUESS JUST FOR NOW, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT THAT COULD BE A DISCUSSION. WE CAN HAVE THE SHERIFF AND SEE WHAT WHAT WOULD HE THINK WOULD BE BEST FOR THAT AS WELL? I THINK CODY WILL HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO ME. I GUESS YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS. YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IT 24 OVER SEVEN BECAUSE YOU WOULD. AND SO I GUESS WE COULD HAVE IT HIS OFFICE AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY HE'S AROUND HIS OFFICE. IT'S ORGANIZATIONAL GEAR. SO IT'D BE SIGNED OUT TO THEM AND THEY'D BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND THE CARE AND UPKEEP OF IT. AND IF SOMETHING SHOULD GO WRONG WITH IT, POSSESSING IT, THOUGH, THERE'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE THAT GOES INTO THAT EQUIPMENT. THAT IS CORRECT. BUT HE'S THE EXPERT AND WE'RE NOT. THAT'S CORRECT. I SHOULD SAY THE PRECINCT, THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS. IT BELONGS TO THEM AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. I HATE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF. WELL, OR THE PEOPLE TO REPAIR IT OR FIX IT OR ADJUST IT OR SET IT UP. YES. AS A DIVER, HE DIDN'T WANT ME TO INSPECT IT. HE WAS A DIVER. I WOULDN'T WANT YOU INSPECT MY GEAR EITHER. OKAY, WELL, I THINK THE QUESTION TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REIMBURSING HIM FOR EQUIPMENT HE'S ALREADY PURCHASED. RIGHT. SO THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE BUDGET WHERE WE DISCUSS THE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED SO THAT THAT'LL BE A BUDGETED PROCESS. BUT THIS IS JUST REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS AND SEE WHAT IT IS TIMES TWO, BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO HAVE HIM GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM WITHOUT SOMEBODY THERE, SOMEBODY HE'S GOT TO HAVE A PARTNER. THEY HAVE A DIVE. SO YES, I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE MY RESERVE DEPUTY. HE'S ALSO A DIVER FOR US TOO.

AND HE HE'LL COME OUT IF WE CALL HIM. HE WAS PREVIOUSLY ON ARANSAS PASSES DIVE TEAM WHEN THEY HAD ONE. WELL, I GUESS WHAT BROUGHT THIS UP IN MY MIND WAS THAT YOU'RE THERE NOW AND YOUR RESERVE IS THERE NOW. WHAT HAPPENS LATER ON WHEN SOME, YOU KNOW, CONSTABLE IS THERE THAT DOESN'T DIVE AND IS CHECKED OUT INTO YOUR DEPARTMENT? WE COULD EASILY, YOU KNOW, TRANSFER IT TO EITHER THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A IF, GOD FORBID, TOMORROW OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS ALL THAT WHEN WE KNOW BUDGET AND STUFF, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY GET IT ALL TAKEN CARE OF. I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT AIN'T GOING TO GET LOST.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET YOU TAKEN CARE OF AND THEN WHATEVER THE EQUIPMENT IS LATER ON, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO IT, IT BELONGS TO US. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WE LIKE THAT OURSELVES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND A MOTION AND A SECOND ON 2.4 I.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? I'M ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

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SAME SIGN OKAY. MOTION CARRIES CARRY OKAY. 2.4. JAY IS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION COVERING THE

[j. Presentation covering the San Patricio County Navigation District #1 proposed 2026 Budget in anticipation of requesting that the County Commissioners Court levy maintenance tax pursuant to Section 62.160 Maintenance Tax, Chapter 62, Texas Water Code, for the Navigation District. The San Patricio County Navigation District #1 is a Special Purpose District governed by Chapter 62, Texas Water Code, and it is the County Commissioners Court that is authorized by statute to levy a M&O tax for the maintenance, operation, and upkeep of the Navigation District.]

HAMPSHIRE COUNTY NAVIGATION DISTRICT. NUMBER ONE PROPOSED 2026 BUDGET IN ANTICIPATION OF REQUESTING THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT LEVY MAINTENANCE TAX PURSUANT TO SECTION 62.160, THE MAINTENANCE TAX, CHAPTER 62 OF THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT, THE COUNTY NAVIGATION DISTRICT NUMBER ONE IS A SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT GOVERNED BY CHAPTER 62, TEXAS WATER CODE, AND IS IT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT IS AUTHORIZED TO. TO LEVY NO TAX FOR THE MAINTENANCE, OPERATION, UPKEEP OF THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT? I DON'T REMEMBER, WAS IT TWO WEEKS AGO? WE HAD A MEETING DOWN AT THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT WITH MR. WENDELL EZRA AND PATRICK KING AND WENT OVER ALL THIS AND KIND OF COMPLICATED AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I WANTED THE COURT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT NAVIGATION DISTRICT, BECAUSE THERE WAS LOTS OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AS TO HOW THIS CAME ABOUT. AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED LATER ON IN THE PAST IS WHY WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION. SO, MR. WENDELL, WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. JUDGE. WELCOME BACK AS WELL. I HEARD ABOUT YOUR LITTLE INCIDENT AND I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU OUT AND ABOUT. GOOD MORNING TO ALL OF YOU COMMISSIONERS AS WELL. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME OR DON'T REMEMBER ME OR WISH THEY DIDN'T REMEMBER ME, MY NAME IS DAVID WENDELL. I'VE BEEN RETAINED BY THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT TO ANALYZE THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, SEE WHAT'S TRANSPIRED IN THE PAST AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES THEY HAVE. I PROVIDED A REPORT. IT'S BEEN ON THE WEBSITE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER IT REAL QUICK. JUST POINT OUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OR LOWLIGHTS, DEPENDING UPON HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. BUT THE DISTRICT HAS EXPERIENCED CONSISTENT OPERATING LOSSES OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND OPERATING EXPENSES ARE GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY, OUTPACING OPERATING REVENUES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY LEADS TO DECLINING CHANGE IN NET POSITION. THE ASSETS HAVE DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE OF DEPRECIATION, I BELIEVE AFTER 2024, MAYBE 2025, THE ASSETS WILL BE COMPLETELY DEPRECIATED, WHICH WOULD INDICATE THAT THEY ARE THEY HAVE SOME AGE ON THEM. AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE, AS WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS JUST IN JUST A SECOND. BUT BASED ON THE RECENT TRENDS, THAT THIS PATH APPEARS TO BE UNSUSTAINABLE. AND WE NEED TO WE NEED TO FIND SOME SOLUTIONS TO PROVIDE IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS OPERATION, TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.

CURRENTLY, THEY HAVE, AND I BELIEVE WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION A HANDOUT. THEY HAVE A LIST OF APPROXIMATELY $6 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE NEXT, SAY, FIVE YEARS OR SO THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO TACKLE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. THEY'VE BEEN FORTUNATE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY HAVE RECEIVED TWO GRANTS. THE COUNTY HAS INCLUDED THEM IN THE COG MOD GRANT AND ALSO, I BELIEVE BAYS AND ESTUARIES HAS PROVIDED, PROVIDED SOME FUNDING THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDED THROUGH THE GOMEISA PROGRAM. AS I STATED A MOMENT AGO, THE CURRENT CAPITAL ASSETS ARE NEARLY COMPLETE, COMPLETELY DEPRECIATED, RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL LIFESPAN OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. AGAIN, MORE GRANTS COULD BE A POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCE, BUT SECURING FUNDS OF THAT MAGNITUDE NEEDED FOR THE $6 MILLION IN RENOVATIONS THROUGH GRANTS ALONE IS UNLIKELY. SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WOULD BE THE LEVYING OF A PROPERTY TAX. AFTER SOME THOROUGH RESEARCH, IT APPEARS THAT THE LAST PROPERTY TAX WAS LEVIED IN THE EARLY 2000. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AT THAT TIME, THE DISTRICT HAD SUBSTANTIAL RESERVES, FELT LIKE THEY WERE IN GOOD POSITION AND DID NOT NOT LONGER ANY LONGER NEED TO LEVY A TAX. HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST 20 OR SO YEARS, THE POSITION HAS DWINDLED DOWN SUCH THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE. PRELIMINARY BUDGET THAT WE PUT TOGETHER FOR THE

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2026 BUDGET, 2024, FINANCIALS ARE UNAUDITED. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY USUALLY COMPLETE THOSE AROUND JULY AND AUGUST. I BELIEVE WE'RE ESTIMATING AN ENDING BALANCE AT THE END OF 24 OF ABOUT $417,000, 25 IS ON TARGET TO REDUCE THAT TO ABOUT 286. AND THE 26 BUDGET, IF IT FOLLOWS THROUGH, WOULD DROP THAT DOWN TO ABOUT 132,000. SO NET POSITION RESERVES ARE ARE DROPPING QUICKLY. SO ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO LEVY A TAX. HOWEVER THAT BECAME VERY COMPLICATED LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE OF THE. TNT RULES, TRUTH AND TAXATION RULES BECAUSE OF A ZERO LEVY IMPLEMENTING A LEVY, EVEN IF UNDER THE CURRENT RULES, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO GO 3.5% OVER THE PRIOR YEAR LEVY, WELL, ZERO TIMES 1.035 IS STILL ZERO. SO A LEVY OF ANY TAX RATE, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GOING TO TRIGGER AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION. HOWEVER, WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT THERE IS WHAT WHAT IS CALLED A DE MINIMIS RULE. AND DEPENDING UPON WHERE THE TAX RATE WOULD BE SET, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD AVOID AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION BUT STILL TRIGGER THE POSSIBILITY OF A PETITION ELECTION, WHICH WOULD WOULD REQUIRE 3% OF THE OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS IN THAT DISTRICT TO PETITION THE COURT TO ORDER AN ELECTION. AND WE'VE PROVIDED IN THE HANDOUTS. THERE'S A COPY OF THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AS WELL AS THE COMMISSIONERS BOUNDARIES. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT DISTRICT COVERS A PORTION OF TWO COMMISSIONER PRECINCTS, PRECINCT NUMBER ONE AND PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR. SO THAT IS ONE OPTION. ONE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS JUST TRYING TO IDENTIFY, BECAUSE PER STATUTE, THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT REQUESTS THE TAX LEVY. BUT THE VOTE ON THAT HAS TO ACTUALLY BE DONE BY.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO LEVY THE TAX RATE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY JUST TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE COULD USE TO SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. TWO OTHER OPTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, NOT REALLY FOND OF EITHER ONE OF THESE OPTIONS, BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT IT LEADS TO SUSTAINABILITY, BUT ANNEXATION BY ANOTHER DISTRICT IS A POSSIBILITY AS WELL AS DISSOLUTION OF THE DISTRICT IS ANOTHER POSSIBILITY. BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET US WHERE WHERE WE THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO GO. SO THAT'S BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL REAL QUICKLY WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT. THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY IS BASICALLY JUST PUT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ON NOTICE THAT THAT WE MAY NEED TO ASK FOR THIS TAX RATE. AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IT. WE BELIEVE THERE'S MERIT TO THAT CONSIDERATION. SO I HAVE I HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AGAIN, WE ALSO HAVE PATRICK KING HERE.

COMMISSIONER, IF YOU NEED TO ASK SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER THE FINANCIALS OR THE OPERATION OF THE DISTRICT. SO STAND READY TO GO AHEAD. THE. I MEAN, I HEARD ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO THE LAST AUDIT SAID THEY WERE LOOKING GOOD AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF MONEY. HOW DOES THAT GO THAT FAST? I CAN'T ANSWER, I KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOU ASKED. YEAH. SO.

AS FAR AS THE RECOVERY PLAN, IF THEY GET THIS MONEY, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO THROW MONEY AT SOMETHING AND THERE'S NO PLAN TO RECOVER EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND WHILE THEY'RE.

MANAGER IS A GOOD MAINTENANCE GUY. HE IS NOT A HARBORMASTER OR A MANAGER. THERE'S NO ONE REALLY MANAGING THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THIS OTHER THAN THE SECRETARY. THE MAINTENANCE GUY. SO THERE'S NOBODY IN CHARGE. I MEAN, THE THREE COMMISSIONERS DO THE BEST THEY CAN. THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH. AND THAT'S RIGHT. PATRICK. RIGHT. ONCE A MONTH. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO ARE THEY ALL HAVE OTHER JOBS TO DO TOO, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE REST OF THE PEOPLE. SO I MEAN, BEFORE I WOULD PUT ANY MORE MONEY AT THIS, I'D WANT TO SEE A RECOVERY PLAN. A MANAGER

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HIRED TO ACTUALLY BRING THIS THING BACK TO LIFE. AND FIND OUT WHY THE PREVIOUS AUDIT NINE MONTHS AGO SAID EVERYTHING WAS GOOD AND NOW IT'S NOT. THE OTHER THING IS, IS THE ONGOING LEGAL BATTLE WITH MICKEY'S NEXT DOOR AND THEIR SPILLOVER INTO NAVIGATION DISTRICT PROPERTIES AND THEIR ARGUE OVER BACK AND FORTH OVER THE LEASE AGREEMENTS. NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT. YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN IT A LONG TIME AGO, BUT WITH OUR AIRPORT LEASE AGREEMENTS, WE CAN GIVE NOTICE 30 DAYS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE EVICTED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION HERE.

THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS A3P, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP TO RUN THE PLACE OR WE GET PILOT PROGRAM MONEY, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR FROM DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES THAT WE CAN USE TO SPEND ON ANYTHING, ANYTHING WE WANT. IT'S NOT TAX DOLLARS THAT MIGHT HELP TOO. BUT BOTTOM LINE IS YOU NEED SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO COME IN, SET UP A PROGRAM TO MANAGE THIS THING AND BE ABLE TO TAKE THE MONEY AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT BESIDES JUST KEEP CATCHING UP ON WHATEVER BREAKS. THAT'S MY $0.02. SO, AND I'M NOT FOR A TAX ON AN AREA THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO BE TAXED ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE, WHICH IS MUCH OF YOUR DISTRICT. AND PATRICK, ARE THE THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE STILL REPRESENTING THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT. ARE THEY THE ONES THAT WERE BACK IN 2000 THAT DROPPED THE TAX? NO, SIR. NO SIR NEITHER. NONE OF THEM ARE. NO, SIR. OKAY. AND THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING IS OBVIOUSLY AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE'S OVER I BELIEVE OVER ABOUT 150 BOAT SLIPS OUT THERE. THERE'S TWO PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS THAT ARE USED WEEKLY. I MEAN, IT'S A VERY, VERY POPULAR PLACE FOR FISHERMEN IN THE WHOLE REGION. AND MOST RECENTLY, IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIDAL SURGES FROM STORMS OUT IN THE GULF THAT MAY NOT AFFECT US HERE FROM A WEATHER RELATED PERSPECTIVE. BUT THE TIDAL WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE EAST AND BOAT RAMP FACILITY, A PUBLIC BOAT USE FACILITY WITH PIERS AND OVER OVER TOWARDS THE LEFT IS THE DOCKS THAT THAT TYPE OF SCENARIO RIGHT THERE CREATES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DAMAGE TO THE AGING BOAT DOCK FACILITIES. THEY'RE ALL WOOD PILINGS. I THINK WE HAD 3 OR 4 OF THESE ISSUES WITHIN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S CLEANUP THAT THE DISTRICT HAS TO OBVIOUSLY DO FOR SEAWEED AND STUFF. SO IT'S JUST AN ACCUMULATION OF THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS, THE, THE COMMISSIONERS ARE TRYING TO MANAGE VERY EFFECTIVELY. WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME, SOME GRANTS FOR SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. I WANT TO THANK MELANIE COOPER. SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH ASSISTING US ON SOME GRANTS. I BELIEVE ONE OF THEM'S APPROXIMATELY $750,000 IMPROVEMENT GRANT TO ONE OF THE EXISTING DOCKS. I BELIEVE IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THERE, MELANIE. AND THEN WE'VE GOT A GRANT TO DREDGE THE FACILITIES. PROBABLY WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO. SO THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING. THE CONCERN IS, IS IF WE GET A MAJOR WEATHER EVENT OR SOMETHING HAPPENS OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE CONCERN FROM THE CURRENT COMMISSIONERS IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WE'RE TRYING TO STRATEGICALLY GET AHEAD OF THIS AND TRY TO MANAGE IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. YEAH.

COMMISSIONER, THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN EVENT LIKE THIS. AND I MEAN, THE ONE TIME I STOPPED DOWN THERE AT THE RESTROOMS THERE, THEY WERE SECURED, THEY WEREN'T OPEN.

THERE WAS A PART MISSING OR SOMETHING. DID YOU HAVE THE MAINTENANCE GUY AND ONE ASSISTANT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THAT'S THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU GOT FOR THIS WHOLE FACILITY. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU RUN A FACILITY LIKE THAT. IT'S A CHALLENGE. THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THERE'S THREE EMPLOYEES DOWN THERE. THE SECRETARY OF MAINTENANCE MANAGER, AND THEN HE HAS ONE PART TIME PERSON. THIS IS A VERY, VERY POPULAR LOCATION IN IN THE COUNTY. I MEAN, IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY A PRIZE FOR THE AREA. IT'S ABSOLUTELY IT'S AN HONOR FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE THIS FACILITY. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS AND, AND PUT THIS ON YOUR RADAR. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, WHAT WAS ANY CLOSER WITH THIS, THIS LEGAL EVENT WITH THE RESTAURANT? I BELIEVE IT IS STILL UNDER NEGOTIATIONS TO BE RESOLVED. SURE. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU WENT

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FROM 30,000 TO $102,000 IN LEGAL FEES. YES, SIR. AND WHAT WAS OCCURRING IS, IS WE WENT THROUGH AND DID A TOTAL LEASE AGREEMENT REVIEW WITH OUR FORMER ATTORNEY. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING AS A BOARD. THERE WAS THERE APPEARED TO BE SOME DERELICT BOATS THAT EVENTUALLY WERE JUST ABANDONED AT THE LOCATION AND VERY COSTLY TO TRY TO MANAGE THE REMOVAL OF THE BOAT. I THINK THERE WAS I THINK WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD, THERE WAS UP TO 20. AND THEN WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. SO IF WE GET A IF WE GET A RAIN EVENT, WE'RE PUMPING THEM OUT.

WE'RE MAKING SURE THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH THEM. SO WE DID A ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS ON HOW IS THAT HAPPENING. AND BASICALLY WE REALIZED THAT OUR LEASE AGREEMENT DIDN'T HAVE THE PROTECTIONS TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING. SO THAT'S WHAT STARTED A REVIEW, A LEGAL REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR LEASES CURRENTLY. NOW, BEFORE YOU BRING A BOAT INTO THE FACILITY, IT HAS TO BE INSURED. IT HAS TO BE REGISTERED WITH COAST GUARD. IT'S THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THESE PROOFS OF I GUESS THE VESSEL IS IN GOOD SHAPE. I THINK IN THE PAST THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USED TO COME IN AND HAVE A DREAM ABOUT REBUILDING A SAILBOAT, AND THEY WOULD PUT IT IN THERE AND DOCK IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND TRY TO TRY TO WORK ON IT AS THEY COULD. AND THEN EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED. AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THEY WALKED AWAY FROM IT. SO THAT'S WHAT STARTED THIS WHOLE CYCLE OF REVIEWING, I'M SORRY, OF REVIEWING OUR OUR LEASE AGREEMENT. GOOD IDEA. THAT WAS THAT WAS GOOD FOR YOU TO DO. IT REALLY WAS. AND THEN THAT'S WHAT GOT US INTO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ON THE FINAL AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO GET RESOLVED. COMMISSIONER, WHAT WAS THE TAX RATE IN 2000, EARLY 2000? DID THEY DROPPED? ANYBODY REMEMBER TAX RATE WAS IT WAS THREE AND A HALF. AND COMMISSIONER TO ADDRESS YOUR UNDER CHAPTER 62 THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HIRE A DIRECTOR LIKE THE OTHER SPECIAL PURPOSES. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS. AND IN REGARDS TO YOUR P3 PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, YOU NEED REVENUE AND WITHOUT REVENUE TO REPAY FOR THAT INVESTMENT, FOR THOSE FOR THAT PRIVATE INVESTOR TO COME IN, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

AND WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF REVENUE. WE ARE BACK TO MY BACK TO MY INITIAL POINT OF THROWING MONEY AT SOMETHING JUST TO MAKE IT BETTER WHEN THERE'S NO AVENUE TO MAKE IT BETTER. WHEN YOU GET THAT MONEY AND THEY ARE WORKING HARD, I THINK I'M NOT, I, I, I'M NOT SAYING THEY AREN'T WORKING HARD. THEY'RE JUST YOU GOT YOU GOT A BIG FACILITY, YOU GOT A SECRETARY, YOU GOT ONE MAINTENANCE GUY AND A PART TIME ASSISTANT. RIGHT? SO YOU CAN'T AFFORD MORE. YES, BUT WITH THE TAX, I'M. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH PRECINCT FOUR, COMMISSIONER, AS IS IN PRECINCT ONE. AND FOR NOW, I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF MY FOUR MONTHS HERE IN OFFICE OVER HERE THAT WE NAVIGATION DISTRICT WAS STILL OPERATING AND SO FORTH. I DO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR NAVIGATION DISTRICT AS I IF YOU REMEMBER, THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE HARBOR WHEN IT COLLAPSED BACK ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, I WAS THE ONE THAT GOT THE GRANT THERE FOR TO REPAIR THAT. AND WE DID THAT WITH ONE OF THE COMPANIES OUT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. AND, YOU KNOW, I USE CONN BROWN HARBOR WHEN I WAS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER AND WAS PUT IN THE COUNTY BOAT IN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. MATTER OF FACT, I LOANED IT TO ARANSAS PASS FOR MANY YEARS, AND IT WENT BACK TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. BUT AS EMERGENCY MANAGER, I DID UTILIZE IT. BUT I ALSO HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE CITIZENS OF ARANSAS PASS AND MY PRECINCT. YES, SIR. OH EXCUSE ME, WHY ASK ABOUT THE TAX RATE? AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS AT THAT TIME THOUGHT THEY HAD TOO MUCH MONEY. THEY DID. AND THEN HARVEY HIT.

WELL, IT'S 17 YEARS AFTER THEY STOPPED PAYING TAXES. I THINK HE CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN ME. I JUST BECAME THEIR ATTORNEY IN MARCH, AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED. THEY HAD ENOUGH IN RESERVES, THEN HARVEY HIT, THEN THEY HAD A FIRE, THEN THEY HAD THE LAWSUIT. AND SO IT'S JUST BEEN DWINDLING DOWN. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD DAVID WENDEL TAKE A LOOK IN ON THE GULF COAST. AS CLOSE AS THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT IS, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD EVER HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN RESERVES, BECAUSE ONE STORM COULD TAKE THAT WHOLE THING OUT. THAT'S UP TO THAT WAS UP TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS. I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE HISTORY THEY USED TO COME UP HERE TO YOU EVERY YEAR AND YOU GUYS WOULD AND THEY WOULD TELL YOU WHETHER WE WANTED ZERO OR WHAT DO WE WANT. AND SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOU GUYS TO SAY A ZERO, OKAY. AND THEY USED TO COME UP HERE AND GIVE YOU A REPORT ALL THE TIME. IT WASN'T ME THAT SAID ZERO. IT WAS IN

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2001. BUT YOU GUYS CAN HAVE SOME MORE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU COULD ASK THEM TO COME UP HERE AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A REPORT. YOU GUYS CAN GET THAT. BUT BUT THAT ZERO THAT WAS NOT DONE JUST BY THIS NOT BY THE NAVIGATION. THEY CAN'T BY STATUTE. IT HAD TO BE THE PRECINCT AND I CAN I PROVIDED YOU GUYS I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE HISTORY. I'VE GONE THROUGH GRACIE'S RECORDS, THEY'RE ALL THERE AND THEY CAME UP HERE. LAST ONE WAS PORTER CAME UP. PORTER AND GONZALES AND RODRIGUEZ WERE THE TWO. THEY BORROWED MONEY FROM YOU GUYS. I MEAN, IT'S ALL IN THE HISTORY.

IT'S JUST THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE DONE THIS SINCE THE TEST. THEY CAN'T HEAR. OH, I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT SO. THEY BORROWED MONEY FROM US. THEY BORROWED FROM THE FROM THE COUNTY. THEY BORROWED MONEY FROM THE COUNTY. AND I SHOWED IT TO DAVID WENDELL. HE WAS SURPRISED.

HE SAID HE COULDN'T REMEMBER IT EITHER. OH, MAN, I'M REALLY SURPRISED NOW. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU ALWAYS AND EVERYTHING. YEAH. THEY BORROWED THE MONEY TO BUILD THAT, TO BUILD SOME OF THAT.

THEY BORROWED THE MONEY FROM YOU GUYS. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO WE GOT THE HISTORY. THEY USED TO HAVE A BETTER WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU GUYS. HOW IT GOT AWAY I DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT THEY NEED YOU GUYS AGAIN. I HAVE AN IDEA HOW THEY GOT AWAY. IT WAS. WASN'T THESE GUYS HERE? IT WAS BEFORE THEM. BUT I AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, A TAX OF A NICKEL PER HUNDRED AND $0.10 PER HUNDRED NEXT YEAR ON THESE PEOPLE HERE THAT LIVE IN THIS DISTRICT IS A NONSTARTER. OKAY. I BLOCK WALKED EVERY, EVERY I'VE BEEN TO EVERY HOUSE IN THIS IN THIS NAVIGATION DISTRICT. OKAY. THEY DON'T NEED ANOTHER TAX ON SOMETHING. THEY PROBABLY DON'T EVEN USE. THAT IS FROM MEMORIAL DAY THAT THE I MUST SAY PEOPLE DON'T COME AND USE IT. I'M SAYING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS NAVIGATION DISTRICT COULD HAVE TO PAY THE TAX. YES, I WOULD INCREASE FEES. I'D INCREASE DOCK FEES. I'D INCREASE SLIP FEES. OKAY. AND I THINK DAVID CAN ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL ADDRESS THAT.

YOU GOT $6 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS YOU GUYS GOT TO. YOU GUYS WERE NICE ENOUGH TO HELP THEM GET A GRANT FROM THE HARVEY MONEY. BUT WHEN THAT DREDGING OF THAT OF THAT CHANNEL COMES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING IT. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE REVENUE SOURCE TO MAINTAIN IT. THEY'RE FIXING TO SPEND A HALF $1 MILLION ON A PIER. THEY WILL NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN IT. YOU KNOW, LET THE LET THE DECISION. IS THIS AN EXISTING PIER OR NEW PIER? THE EXISTING PIER? PIER. OKAY. IT'S A YOU GUYS HELP THEM WITH THE GO MESA FUNDS. I UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST SAYING I CAN'T SEE TAXING PEOPLE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING DOWNHILL FOR QUITE A WHIL.

JUST TO ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT THIS TAX UP. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER YARDLEY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, I THINK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO. OUT OF MY NOTES, WHAT COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. THE FIRST THING I HAVE ON HERE. IS THERE A WAY TO INCREASE OUR OPERATING REVENUE FOR THIS FACILITY? IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE ALL ARE YOU GETTING YOUR MONEY FROM RIGHT NOW? SLIP RENTALS. I MEAN, WHAT IS IT YOU'RE GETTING MONEY FROM? YES, IT'S LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH SLIP RENTALS. A BAIT STAND AND TWO OTHER COMMERCIAL TYPE LOCATIONS THERE ON THE PREMISE. AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THOSE RATES WERE INCREASED? I BELIEVE WE LOOKED AT SLIP RENTAL INCREASES. IT MAY HAVE BEEN 12 TO 18 MONTHS AGO. IT'S PERIODICALLY WE DO A REVIEW OF THE AREA AND ACT ACCORDINGLY WITH OUR OUR NEIGHBORING OUR NEIGHBORING, YOU KNOW, BOAT FACILITIES. RIGHT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T PRICE YOURSELF OUT OF BUSINESS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, JOSH, WOULD YOU BRING UP THE MAP OF THE BOUNDARIES ON ON THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT? MY QUESTION ON THE BOUNDARIES. THESE WERE OBVIOUSLY SET, I'M GUESSING MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. SO IS THERE A METHOD TO CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES OR INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT SO THAT TAKE IT BACK TO THE LARGER AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING THAT? YES.

YOU TAKE IT BACK TO THE VOTERS. THEY NEED TO PETITION LIKE THEY DID BEFORE THIS COURT, WHEN YOU GUYS ORIGINALLY SAW IT IN 57, SAID THE BOUNDARIES WERE TOO WIDE. IT ACTUALLY PICKED UP PART OF INGLESIDE ON THE BAY AND THIS COURT IN JANUARY OF 58 SAID IT WAS TOO BIG, TOOK IT TO THE VOTERS, AND IT PASSED, I MEAN, TO DEVELOP THIS AREA. AND SO THAT'S THE LAST TIME THAT I COULD FIND, BASED ON THE HISTORY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE IS SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT PROBABLY AREN'T THE ONES USING THE MAJORITY OF THESE FACILITIES. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL BE TAXED FOR IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE ONES USING IT. SO THAT DOES SEEM LIKE A PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ADDRESS THAT. I AS I MENTIONED, ANNEXATION IS ONE OF THE THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.

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ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL AREAS. OR YOU COULD EITHER ANNEX ANOTHER DISTRICT OR BE ANNEXED BY ANOTHER DISTRICT. BUT IN EITHER IN EITHER INSTANCE, YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT A TAX RATE TO GENERATE TO GENERATE. BECAUSE AS IT STANDS NOW, IF YOU WANT TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS AND LET'S JUST ASSUME YOU COULD BORROW THE FUNDS TO DO THAT AND PAY IT BACK, YOU'RE STILL TALKING.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DOUBLE YOUR INCOME. SO ANNEXATION. OUR EXISTING NAVIGATION DISTRICT COULD ANNEX ANOTHER ONE TO BECOME BIGGER OR VICE VERSA. IT COULD BE ANNEXED BY. IS THAT TO BE AN ADJOINING NAVIGATION DISTRICT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE STATUTE.

ADJOINING NAVIGATION DISTRICT. I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THERE'S ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT ADJOINS REFUGIO COUNTY OR NOT REFUGIO, BUT FRANCIS COUNTY. AND ALSO THE PORT IS A NAVIGATION DISTRICT, AND THEY'RE THE ONES SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM. IF YOU WERE TO PULL, YOU CAN PULL THIS UP ON THE GLO SITE AND IT'LL SHOW YOU ALL THE NAVIGATION DISTRICTS. AND THAT IS WHO SITTING CLOSEST TO US. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR CONCERN IS. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE FLESHED OUT BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN. AND THEN I WILL ALSO ADD, ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING MONEY IN THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LONG RANGE PLAN IS TO SUSTAIN IT AND MAINTAIN IT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE JUST TO DUMP MONEY IN IT. IF, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT IS BACK HERE DEALING WITH THE SAME THING. SO THOSE ARE MY INPUTS, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER DURING COVID HOW MUCH PAIN WE RECEIVED UP HERE IN THIS COURTHOUSE, BECAUSE 95% OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE USING THAT NAVIGATION INDUSTRY WERE FROM OUT OF THAT AREA. SURE. BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING IN HERE AND STUFF. THE SHERIFF, I MEAN, THE SHERIFF, WELL, THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND THE RANCHERS TRIED TO STOP IT. I DON'T KNOW, OSCAR, IF YOU GOT INVOLVED IN ANY OF THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF IT GOT REAL UGLY BECAUSE THEY WANTED US TO STOP THE PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING IN FROM AROUND THE AREA, FROM USING THAT NAVIGATION DISTRICT, BECAUSE EVIDENTLY A LOT OF THE DOCKS AND STUFF, I GUESS PIER DOCKS, BOAT RAMPS AROUND THE AREA WERE SHUT DOWN. THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY THERE. SO THIS ONE WAS OPEN AND THAT'S WHY THEY CAME HERE. IT'D BE INTERESTING OUT OF THAT YELLOW MAP RIGHT THERE TO FIND OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THAT NAVIGATION DISTRICT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWED TO BE TAXING PEOPLE. IF WE GO TO THE TAX RATE OF MAYBE 10% OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA THAT ARE USING IT, AND THE REST OF IT'S FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN FROM AROUND. I KNOW WHEN IT WAS OPEN AND I HAD A BOAT, I WENT DOWN THERE AND I WAS FROM PORTLAND AND LAUNCHED OUT OF THERE. I KNOW IN THE PAST THAT IN THE PAST HAD HAD HARBORMASTERS. I REMEMBER ANDY ANDERSON BACK IN THE 1992 AREA, AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER ONES THAT THAT CAME IN OVER THERE IN THE PAST. DO THEY PLAN ON PUTTING ANOTHER? I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT A WHOLE NEW CITY COUNCIL DOWN THERE. SO THEY PLANNING ON HAVING ANOTHER HARBORMASTER OR DO THEY JUST PUT THAT ON THE SIDE OR THAT GET AWAY WITH IT? I HAVE ONE THEY DO. IS IT PART OF THE PD? IT IS. IS THERE A NAME? JACK MCCARTY OKAY, OKAY OKAY. WELL HE DO GET AROUND OKAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T HELP THE COUNTY NAVIGATION DISTRICT. OH, IT DOESN'T PASS. THE CITY ISN'T ITS OWN NAVIGATION DISTRICT AS FAR AS I KNOW. THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. SEPARATE ISSUE. AND WITH RESPECT TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE P-3 SITUATION, OBVIOUSLY DISSOLUTION OF THE DISTRICT IS WOULD BE A METHOD TO GET POSSIBLY TO THAT P-3 SOLUTION WHERE MAYBE THERE IS A THERE IS A WAY TO, TO KEEP SOME OF THAT AS, AS PUBLIC, WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY PUBLIC PROPERTY OR SOME SORT OF EASEMENT, MAYBE. BUT IN OUR RESEARCH, THE STATUTES ARE ANNEXATION IS FAIRLY WELL LINED OUT IN THE STATUTES. THIS SOLUTION IS NOT. AND THE SOLUTION TO THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE HAVING TO FILE A LAWSUIT IN DISTRICT COURT AND HAVE THEM TELL US EXACTLY HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT'S THE BEST ROUTE TO HAVE. ALL RIGHT. I DO WANT TO ADD ONE THING WHERE WE WHERE WE DO USE OUR GRANT FUNDS, IT HAS

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TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC. WE CANNOT GO AHEAD AND TURN THAT INTO PRIVATE AND CHARGE WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THOSE GRANT FUNDS IN. SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE TO KEEP THOSE PUBLIC WHERE THOSE GRANT FUNDS ARE GOING INTO. SO I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COURT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, MR. KING, I'LL ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION. AND MAYBE MR. WENDELL ALSO AND MISS ROTH. SO WHEN DO YOU RUN OUT OF MONEY? WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTED FINAL DAY? DEPENDS ON THE WEATHER. OKAY. ALLOWING FOR GOOD WEATHER. WELL, THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT IS OPERATING, YOU KNOW, DAILY. THESE ARE THESE ARE THE STRATEGY OF THE BOARD WAS THE OBVIOUSLY THE MAINTENANCE EXPENSES, CAPITAL MAINTENANCE EXPENSES ARE JUST CONTINUING TO RISE AND RISE AND RISE. AND IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG RUN. AND WHAT WHAT I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE IS, IS THAT THING START TO DETERIORATE. AND MR. KING, IT'S ALREADY DETERIORATED PRETTY BADLY FROM WHAT I SAW LAST TIME I WAS THERE A FEW MONTHS AGO, DOWN AT THE OTHER END, DOWN WHERE THE BOAT LAUNCH IS AT THE OTHER END, AND THE PICNIC AREA AND THE PLAYGROUND AREA AND THAT KIND OF STUFF THERE. THE TWO RESTROOMS THAT YOU SHOWED IN THE PICTURE, THE FLOODED PARKING LOT, THAT'S ALL VERY WELL DETERIORATED ALREADY. WELL, IT'S 40 PLUS YEARS. I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, BRING SOMETHING BACK LIKE THAT'S EXPENSIVE. ABSOLUTELY. AND TO YOUR QUESTION IT IT YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT OPERATION OPERATIONAL AVAILABILITY TO DO THAT FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY IF WE DO GET A MAJOR WEATHER EVENT THAT CREATES AN UNFORESEEN CHALLENGE, THAT'S THAT THAT'S OUR CONCERN. IT'S NOT AN EASY QUESTION TO ANSWER. SO EASY QUESTION. THERE'S NO EASY ANSWER TO IT. NO, NO EASY ANSWER. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, DAVID. THANK YOU. PATRICK. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. DESIREE. THANK YOU FOR THE THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. AND WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING AND Y'ALL CONTINUE WORKING. AND MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN THE LONG RUN, OKAY.

OKAY. I THINK ENDS OUR. OUR AGENDA ITEM. YES. SO WE'LL GO INTO PERSONNEL 3.1 DELIBERATE

[3. PERSONNEL-Employment and current employee status changes in accordance with the current personnel policies, County Budget, and State law with notification of such changes to the payroll division of the Treasurer's office.]

AND CONSIDER ACTION ON EMPLOYEES SALARY 3.18 DAVID RC RESIGNATION JAILER SHERIFF'S OFFICE FULL TIME. REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 108 AT $5,247.57 PER MONTH, EFFECTIVE MAY 29TH, 2025 3.1 B IS ROXANNE VERONA ZAPATA, RESIGNATION CLERK, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PART TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 103, STEP FOUR AT $18.51 PER HOUR EFFECTIVE MAY 30TH, 2025, 3.1 C GLORIA RODRIGUEZ, RESIGNATION, JUVENILE SUPERVISION OFFICER, JUVENILE DETENTION FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 106 STEP ONE AT $3,135.81 PER MONTH, WITH A $50 PER MONTH PHONE ALLOWANCE, EFFECTIVE MAY 20TH, 2025, 3.1 D COLTON LANGRIDGE OTHER G-L CORRECTION FROM A0104 DASH.

40462110210106640. DASH 110 AND 3.1 E IS AARON HERNANDEZ EMPLOYMENT MECHANIC ROAD AND BRIDGE TWO FULL TIME REGULAR NONEXEMPT GRADE 108. STEP THREE $4,089.08 PER MONTH EFFECTIVE JUNE 16TH, 2025. SALARY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS STEP THREE PER CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION PLAN GUIDELINES. OKAY, WE ALL LOOKING AT 3.1 D TO FIGURE OUT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THREE POINT 1DI SAW IT ON YOUR FACE. SO WHEN WE WHEN WE HIRED, WHEN WE HIRED COLTON, THE JAIL CAME IN UNDER SAFETY. THE JOB WAS RECLASSIFIED BEFORE THE HIRING AND PUT GIS AS PRIMARY

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AND SAFETY AS SECONDARY. IN DOING THAT, WE HAD TO CHANGE THE GL TO REFLECT THAT IN THE SIX, SIX, FOUR. IS THE GIS CODE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S JUST THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE JUST PUTTING PRIMARY WHEN WE DO BUDGET FOR 2026, WE WILL HAVE TWO BUDGET CODES GOING INTO ONE, WHICH WILL BE THE PRIMARY, THE 6640. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO APPROVE 3.1 A THROUGH E. SECOND LAST SECOND BY YANI FOR APPROVAL OF 3.1 A THROUGH 3.1 E. OTHER COMMENTS.

HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. UNANIMOUS 3.2 IS ACCEPT AND RECORD SALARY STATUS CHANGES. WE HAVE NONE IN ITEM FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE DO NOT MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND MOTION BY LESLIE. SECONDED BY THE AUTHORITY TO ADJOURN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

1. CALL TO ORDER, PLEDGES AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT

2. DELIBERATE AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS:

2. Financial Agenda:

4. Individual Action Agenda:

Jun 02, 2025 Commissioner's Court

1. CALL TO ORDER, PLEDGES AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT

2. DELIBERATE AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS:

2. Financial Agenda:

4. Individual Action Agenda:

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